ShinHan Watercolors - Review and Demo

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  • čas přidán 24. 08. 2024

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  • @carlpen850
    @carlpen850 Před 6 lety +14

    To all serious watercolor artists... I HIGHLY recommend that before you buy one more tube or pan set of watercolors that you go out and secure yourself a copy of "The Wilcox Guide to the Best Watercolor Paints" it will save you a fortune over the years.
    Wilcox takes you through all the pigments, from yellow to gray, all the earth tones and black and white as well, their chemical make up and how they're manufactured.
    He uses the strict ASTM standards of rating each pigment... the ratings are for light fastness, health issues and the over all quality of the paint and binders used with a detail of the make up of each pigment. He plays no favorites in the assessments given and even calls out manufacturers for labeling the same exact color under different names just so they can sell more paint to the unaware.
    I have the 1st edition of this book which was printed in 1991 and is 285 pages but there is and updated version that is 400 pages... which ever version you get you won't be sorry and I guarantee that whatever you spend on this book you'll get back a 100 fold in money you will no longer waste on inferior paint.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      Great recommendation, I’ll take a look 👍🏼

    • @dynomax101
      @dynomax101 Před 5 lety

      @Weedus Most likely, the books contain more information, though JB's site is very good.

    • @OhJodi69
      @OhJodi69 Před 4 lety

      The information is 30 years old. Many paint manufacturers change some formulas over time, and there are also new paint brands out there.

  • @berolinastrassmann
    @berolinastrassmann Před rokem +2

    These mixes are beautiful. The blue and brown mix creates some very useful neutrals for shadows and muted hues. Thanks for this. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos testing these colours.

  • @discretelyobvious
    @discretelyobvious Před 6 lety +12

    PWC - Artist
    Professional - Student
    Shami - Childrens

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you for the clarification, you may want to check out my newer reviews of PWC 😊

  • @tainadelcaribe
    @tainadelcaribe Před 6 lety +6

    ShinHan is a nice K. orean brand. The PWC is their professional line (hence more colors available), the "Professional" is their student grade line, the Shami is the kids line and they even have a preschool and elementary school kids line with like 12 or 15 colors called S+art, if I'm not mistaken. I have a couple of tubes front the PWC and Professional lines and they are awesome. I don't have any primaries yet, but the colors are vibrant and clean. I also have the set of 12 from their "Professional Traditional Korean Colors" Line which is their professional line that makes traditional Korean colors in a sort of westernized formula so they are like an in between east/west type of watercolor but in a Korean traditional color palette and they are great!! They are harder to get in the west (USA specifically), but I'm pretty sure that if your local store has the PWC line they could order some From the Traditional Korean Colors line which has less colors available by the way. I also like their archival ink brush pens (ShinHan Touch Brush) for modern brush calligraphy. Have tried their alcohol markers and they are pretty good too. Hope you enjoy the watercolors! Looking forward to see what you paint with them.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      Thank you for sharing! 😊🙏🏼 I should probably check out some of their other products!

    • @annemorgan2928
      @annemorgan2928 Před 2 lety

      Thank you so much for your explanation. I have bought a set of PWC and didn’t know the difference between it and the Korean professional set. This was so helpful.

  • @arsinoe8336
    @arsinoe8336 Před rokem +1

    Van Dyke brown is a very common color in watercolors, but Shinhan is the only brand i know which uses the historical natural pigment. The other brands use all different pigments which are more lightfast than the natural one. You can find Van dyke brown or sometimes also written van Dyck brown in brands like Mijello, Daniel Smith, Winsor and Newton, Qor, Marimerblu, Rembrandt, Sennelier, Holbein, White nights, Schmincke, old Holland and also in studen grade watercolors. The old Holland Version has a color separating effect between brown and black pigments.

  • @mikalexel364
    @mikalexel364 Před 6 lety +4

    PWC - Premium WaterColor for the Western market. SWC for the Asian market. Professional - student grade. The Permanent Red is PR209 Quinacridone Red which is a slightly pinkish to mid red pigment with a hue shift towards blue - thus creating beautiful violet/purple. Its a beautiful red.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you for explaining that.
      This red is really one of my favorites too 😁🔥

    • @mikalexel364
      @mikalexel364 Před 6 lety

      Jackson's Art of London sell and ship the PWC...

    • @trondbirkeland8094
      @trondbirkeland8094 Před 6 lety

      Are there any differences between the PWC and the SWC? Why two brands for two markets?

    • @mikalexel364
      @mikalexel364 Před 6 lety

      Trond Birkeland PWC modern lightfast pigments for the Western market. The SWC use cheaper and maybe less lightfast pigments and made for the Asian market. The PWC sell around $8 per tube while the SWC sell around $3.50 - 5...

  • @cezzarezero
    @cezzarezero Před 6 lety +2

    It's nice to see these reviewed! The PWC line is the true artist grade paint from Shinhan, currently it expanded its color range to 104 colors and uses more single pigment paints than it used to. They have many of the pigments and colors commonly used, so you shouldn't have much problems building a basic palette, it seems, however, that the PWC line lacks lightfast permanent reds or oranges other than their cadmium ones.
    If you're curious about the Professional Watercolor line from this brand, I have the 30 color set (the full range) and it looks like it's halfway between a student grade paint and an artist grade one, not because of the quality, since the colors are very vibrant, have great transparency and rewet nicely, but because:
    - That line has only 30 colors
    - Uses a lot of fugitive pigments and multi-pigment paints
    - Lacks any expensive colors, like cadmiums or cobalts (which the PWC does have)
    Great video! I look forward to watching you paint with these waterccolors!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      Thank you for sharing. I had a feeling this was the case with the professional line.
      Here it's actually easier for me to get the PWC (a local store has them), and so luckily I could probably stock on them forever.
      I hope to do a full painting soon with these paints 🙏🏼😊
      I also got 3 more tubes of primary colors that I hope to use soon.

  • @marjoriejohnson6535
    @marjoriejohnson6535 Před 2 lety

    I am so glad that you backed off on the product comparisons and are now focusing on technique..congrats.

  • @MeowMeowKapow
    @MeowMeowKapow Před 6 lety +3

    Apparently the “professional” line are still student grade (still bright but less pigmented, and with not as good lightfastness), and the PWC are *actually* professional grade. The other one is like....kid’s grade. I got the “professional” ones to review on my channel but only recently found out that they’re not the artist’s grade I thought they were. Their naming scheme is, sadly, misleading.
    Thanks for the review! I’m interested to see how my experiments with the “professional” line compare to yours with the PWC-wish I had both so I could do an actual side by side!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      My pleasure, I’m happy this helps - and it could indeed be a good idea to review and even compare the misleading (😛) “professional” line with the PWC.
      By the way - great work on your channel 👍🏼👌🏼

    • @MeowMeowKapow
      @MeowMeowKapow Před 6 lety

      Liron Yanconsky yeah, that naming scheme is so weird....but it obviously is like that for a reason. I honestly didn’t realize they weren’t the artist’s grade when I got them! Sadly, PWC aren’t available in my area aside from getting a set for $100 minimum, so I’ll just have to direct people to your videos if they want to see what the artist’s grade is like. =^.^=

  • @michelleflick1937
    @michelleflick1937 Před 2 lety

    I am on my second box of 30 of the professional set. There is a beautiful selection of blues, cobalt, Prussian, cerulean, and ultramarine. There are many reds as red 406, bordeaux, opera, and more. There are three yellows plus jaune and yellow ochre. This sets blend beautifully, a great plum, blueberry, purple, nice and intense. When needed, they are great right out of the tube as the paint is creamy with the tiniest bit of water. They are a pleasure to work with, and I would recommend buying an extra larger tube of white paint.

  • @milenabdesign
    @milenabdesign Před 6 lety +2

    These look yummy! I have their "Professional" set, which are their student grade paints, and their are nice to play with but perceptively student grade. They dry a little chalky, so I'm pretty certain they have have more fillers than the PWC line. The price difference also confirms that.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      Yes, this seems to be the case.
      I got 3 more of these (not samples this time, larger tubes) that I hope to share soon too (:

  • @funnydewd
    @funnydewd Před 6 lety +3

    My understanding is that both lines “Pro and PWC” use the same quality pigments and have similar pigment load. The Pro series uses many more multi-pigment mixtures for their colors while the PWC series uses fewer pigments and have a better selection of colors.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      That's good to know.
      I actually really like these and got 3 more tubes.
      Hope to share a full painting process with them soon (:

    • @mikalexel364
      @mikalexel364 Před 6 lety

      According to Shinhan the PWC use the best pigments but the Professional use the same pigments as the SWC made for the Asian market - less pigment and lower quality and less lightfast pigments...

  • @jillbartos8893
    @jillbartos8893 Před 6 lety +3

    To add my two cents to the discussion about western/eastern markets, PWC is sold in Singapore. Last summer I visited a fantastic art store called Overjoyed (which I definitely was when I walked inside :) While browsing the display of my favorite Sennelier, I noticed Shinhan PWC 15ml tubes next to them. I'd never tried Shinhan before so decided to pick up Lavender (PB28/PV15/PW6; required for a class) and Cerulean (PB35). Everything in the store was 20% off, so the Lavender cost approx. $5 and the cerulean $8.40 in US dollars. Great prices for 15 ml tubes! Singapore has several amazing art stores.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      That is indeed great price! Did you like them? (:

    • @jillbartos8893
      @jillbartos8893 Před 6 lety

      The lavender is a pretty bluish lavender and the cerulean is gorgeous with a little granulation.

  • @lotusphere6
    @lotusphere6 Před 6 lety +2

    Cool dude. Thanks for the review

  • @selahpaintco
    @selahpaintco Před 6 lety +3

    The PWC is the professional artist grade, the 'professional' line is their student grade, and the other is more of a kid's primary school paint

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      So I've seen in their website (:
      I feel lucky to have the PWCs here in a local art store!

    • @pbasswil
      @pbasswil Před 6 lety +3

      Exactly. So because of their idiotic product naming, folks buy the 'Professional' ones, are disappointed, so they criticize ShinHan - which discourages people from trying the PWC line. Which is a shame; but their marketing mismanagement kind of brought it on themselves!

  • @chaii_latte
    @chaii_latte Před 6 lety +2

    Yayyyy I'm glad you reviewed these. I have the student grade ones called "professional" idk why they're called that.. They work good though. 👍 lots of great colors to work with. PWC is more expensive.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      Haha yes, I read in some other comments more details about the professional line.
      I'm happy the PWCs are easy to get here, from a local store.
      I got 3 more tubes of these and hope to share a full painting process soon 🙏🏼 ^_^

  • @cherry465
    @cherry465 Před 6 lety +1

    I was really curious about these! can’t wait for an update. Great video as always 👍🏼

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you 😊🙏🏼
      I loved them so much that I got 3 more tubes. I'll try and post a full painting process with them soon ^_^

    • @carlpen850
      @carlpen850 Před 6 lety

      @ Lady C... you want an update ? then read my post at the top of this comment section. I've been working with watercolors since 1970 so I'm not a novice just so you know.

  • @Dan.B.Artist
    @Dan.B.Artist Před 6 lety +3

    I know a few artists who use these and say they're amazing. Not tried them myself, The PWC are the most popular, I can only find the other type they offer on amazon. I've also heard their hybrid paint is really good.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      I have links to some PWC sets in the description box.
      They were a challenge to find (:
      Unfortunately it's only sets, I couldn't find individual tubes. I'm very pleased with these so far.

    • @carlpen850
      @carlpen850 Před 6 lety

      @ Penholder Art... save your money and purchase Cotman tubes... ShinHan paints are not professional grade... for more information read my post at the top of this comment section.

  • @selahpaintco
    @selahpaintco Před 6 lety +3

    Thank you!! I'm always looking, but I can't ever seem to find a review of the PWC from Shin Han. I've always been curious, but have had no basis to invest yet, I might have to check these out myself now!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +2

      Happy to hear this review fills a gap.
      I hope to post more videos using these (I got 3 more large tubes) 😁🙏🏼

    • @selahpaintco
      @selahpaintco Před 6 lety +1

      Liron Yanconsky Please do, I can't wait!!

    • @ifoundthisthing7954
      @ifoundthisthing7954 Před 6 lety +1

      I does fill a gap! It was exactly the info I was after. Love your format and the way you tested (swatches mixes and then drawing all on quality paper so we could see their qualities/capabilities) Subscribed

  • @carlpen850
    @carlpen850 Před 6 lety +9

    @ Liron Yanconsky... I purchased a set (18 colors) of ShinHan Professional Watercolors some time ago and as with all the new paints I purchase I add them to the test strips that I've made.
    I make two test strips for each color, one I hang in a brightly lit room but not in direct sunlight the other is stored in such a way that it gets no light what so ever. After a couple of months I will compare the two test strips for signs of fading and discoloration.
    Let me state emphatically that those ShinHan watercolors are some of the worst paints I've ever made the mistake of buying... within a couple of months every single color, including even the earth tones faded, some radically, the "yellow light" turned to a dirty brown, the crimson discolored to a dark violet and the red is almost gone, what's left of it is a light pinkish tone. Even the indigo which is usually a dependable light fast color faded. To my dismay even the test strip that was not exposed to light showed signs of color fading... which leads me to believe that these paints are all made with cheap dyes.
    When I first tested these colors they were bright and vibrant and washed out more or less OK... so if you're a designer who's doing live mock ups for clients or doing show cards for events where the work doesn't have to last for more than a month then I guess they would be OK... but I do professional watercolor portraits... and my watercolor landscapes are in homes and offices... my reputation is at stake so I can't afford to use anything that isn't 100% archival AND THESE SHINHAN so called PROFESSIONAL WATERCOLORS ARE NOT ARCHIVAL... nor are they professional... I have student grade paints by Academy and Cotman that are a 1000 times better than these as far as being light fast is concerned.
    I recommend you make test strips for all your watercolor pigments and hang on to them... they will become invaluable over time... not only in letting you know which colors are most permanent and fade resistant but also the difference of the same pigments made by different manufactures.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      Thank you for sharing - I agree. It’s really important to do these tests.
      I sometimes do them if I suspect a brand’s quality may not be up to par.
      I’m very pleased with the results of the PWC, and as other people mentioned here, it’s seems the “Professional” line is of lower quality.

    • @willowwysteria7027
      @willowwysteria7027 Před 5 lety

      For what I read you bought their Student Grade paints which are called "Professional" Watercolors these ones that Liron is actually their Artist Grade paints

    • @LeesChannel
      @LeesChannel Před 5 lety

      PWC or SWC is the line you should have purchased if lightfastness was a concern.

    • @carlpen850
      @carlpen850 Před 5 lety

      @@LeesChannel ... duh no shit sherlock... the ones I purchased have "Professional Artist Colors" printed right on the tube... I don't like companies that misrepresent their line... student grade is NOT professional grade... and since my work hangs in people's homes and offices my product MUST be archival so lightfastness is always a main concern... that's why I always test any new products before using them for my work... when I purchased them from one of my art suppliers they were touted as being "Professional Artist Watercolors" and they were on sale for a short time only... when my shipment arrived, to my dismay the printing on the tubes was in Korean except for their name and Pro. Art. colors, even the color name was in Korean... regardless these are some of the worst 2nd line or student grade paints I have ever tested... maybe I can find some junior high school kid to give them to for free.

  • @TerrieJohnson731
    @TerrieJohnson731 Před 6 lety +1

    I have the 30 Professional set. I like them, they are wonderful at rewetting, no cracking, very vibrant, not a ton of fillers, but I do think they are their student line, and the others are a children's line. I have been waiting 2 months for my Mission Gold sample. Waddup?

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      Haha - I hope you receive them soon, as I'm also curious to see how you'll like them! 🙏🏼

  • @tmp0922
    @tmp0922 Před 6 lety +3

    These are really nice the vast majority of colors in this set (PWC) are single pigment unlike the Mijello Mission Gold brand both from Korean manufacturers.

    • @Kyomiibrown
      @Kyomiibrown Před 6 lety +1

      Antony Michael Pugh Mijello do a complete 26 single pigment set. www.mijelloart.com/pure-pigment-color-set.html

    • @tmp0922
      @tmp0922 Před 6 lety

      Kyomii yes I have the set as well as the 34 color set 15 ml. Tubes, Mijello also has 21 new single pigment colors that are or should be available now, that being said the Shinhan PWC have allot more single pigment colors and very few 3 pigment colors.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +2

      Yes - I enjoyed them a lot so far (:
      I got three more tubes 😁
      I hope to soon share a full painting process with them.

  • @diegogval
    @diegogval Před 6 lety +1

    It seems to me that SHAMI Water Color, ShinHan Professional Water Color and PWC Extra Fine Water Color is the same segmentation Royal Talens does in their website regarding Art Creation, Van Gogh and Rembrandt watercolors.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      Yes, these seem to be similar.
      I only got to try Van Gogh, but it could be interesting to test the rest in the future and maybe draw a comparison to the ShinHans (:
      Thank you for noting this (:

    • @pbasswil
      @pbasswil Před 6 lety

      Yes, it's common for a paint company to have multiple lines like that. What is _uncommon_ is to call your student-grade paints, 'Professional'! As if it wasn't confusing enough for young artists to buy appropriate paints. :^/

  • @Winter_Rose000
    @Winter_Rose000 Před 6 lety +1

    Can you make a video for how to make your watercolor vibrant and make them show off

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      Yes - I added it to my "to do" list 😊
      Thank you for the idea! 🙏🏼

  • @Donna_G
    @Donna_G Před 6 lety +1

    I've heard of this brand; but, I can not get them locally. The ones you tried look like nice paints.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      I feel lucky to have them at a local art store here. They have a huge variety.
      Can't say the same from Daniel Smith, which are practically impossible to get here 😛
      (aside from ordering online, of course)

  • @watercolorjourney.adventur8364

    Liron what's the difference between PWC and SWC? I'm quite confused because I think SWC is also different from Shinhan's Professional watercolor(the blue colored box).

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      PWC is their professional / artist grade paints. SWC is the student grade (:
      I never tried SWC, but from what I understand it's indeed of lesser quality.
      It's like Winsor & Newton have the Cotman series.
      (:

    • @watercolorjourney.adventur8364
      @watercolorjourney.adventur8364 Před 5 lety

      Thanks Liron

  • @diannekrogers
    @diannekrogers Před 6 lety +1

    Yea! Free paint!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      Haha YES - that's always a good thing 😁
      And for some reason I don't run through tubes that fast, despite painting A LOT.

  • @lorijones9579
    @lorijones9579 Před 6 lety +1

    I looked on the Dick Blick web site and they only have ShinHan tubes listed in "Premium" but they are unavailable right now. Jackson's UK has ShinHan Premium and a watercolor/gouache hybrid they call "Pass." So I have no idea. Odd.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      I feel so lucky we have those here.
      They are very easy to find and the prices are not too bad too (:
      Daniel Smith, on the other hand - is impossible to get locally.

  • @ianjackson5834
    @ianjackson5834 Před 6 lety +1

    yes it look like its got some nice granulation

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      Yes, I loved the results. I’m don’t think the new PWC tubes I got granulate (: So we’ll have to enjoy the Ultramarine ones

  • @MrsTiffanyGrey
    @MrsTiffanyGrey Před 6 lety +1

    I was wondering if they were similar to Holbein? Thank you for your review, Liron!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety +1

      I haven't yet gotten the chance to try Holbein.
      Will report in the future 😉
      Thank you 🙏🏼

    • @carlpen850
      @carlpen850 Před 6 lety

      @ Stoned V. Nerd... Holbein was started in Japan in 1900 which already had a long history in making paints by then. I always thought they were over priced so I shied away from them but over the years I was sent a couple of free sampler tubes as promos... I found them pleasant to use, not over packed with binders and they washed out nicely over a wide range of tints but again they were way over priced in my book.

    • @carlpen850
      @carlpen850 Před 6 lety

      @ Tiffany Grey... Take my word... they're not... good thing I got my set of 18 as an on sale promo or I would of returned them and asked for my money back.

    • @nabi767
      @nabi767 Před 6 lety

      I'd like to add my opinion as one from South Korea. ShinHan (and Mijello Mission) is from our country and your referring China and their cheap labors have nothing to do with them. Regarding ShinHan's pricing, their main customers are high school students here aiming to go to art school so they have to be affordable yet vibrant enough to pass the entrance exam. Here richer students would use Holbein from Japan ubiquitously available in local art stores. So I don't think they will set their prices higher, unless some kinds of strategic reasons related to the foreign market.

  • @user-iu6kb4rv2h
    @user-iu6kb4rv2h Před 6 lety +1

    I hope see your new painting , use these ㅎi have

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      I hope to paint with them really soon 😊🙏🏼

  • @mindrawsstuff3562
    @mindrawsstuff3562 Před 6 lety +2

    Pwc is a better watercolor the professional watercolor is advertised as pro paints but most artist say that they are not the pro paints they are more like mid range watercolor

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 6 lety

      Yes, they are considered student great. The PWCs are great so far! (:

  • @Bushy-73
    @Bushy-73 Před 6 lety

    Or you could go to the art store and pick a yellow so you can at least do a painting with them

  • @Bushy-73
    @Bushy-73 Před 6 lety

    Just a shame they don't give you a yellow