Is Jasper Philipsen Playing Dirty? + Cavendish Fined Over Illegal Move - Wild Ones Pro Show Stage 7
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- Highlights and discuss from Stage 7 of the Tour de France 2024
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Both guests thus far have been spectacular! Great job with the Pro Show, looking forward to all the upcoming episodes!
Remco heard the noise of a tire with a puncture. But it was a false alarm. He told that to a Belgian interviewer (Sporza).
That statement from Philipsen is one of the most classic non-apologetic apologies I've ever seen. He leads with a whine, then claims to apologize by saying he hadn't intended anything, whuch is total shit as he rode TWICE towards Van Aert when he had two options to ride straight and you know sprinters are hyper aware if anyone us right next to them. Then he blames the sport. ZERO responsibility taken or fucks given. Now I hope Cav takes the remaining sprints from him directly. By two bike lengths.
I think it was Phillipson who caused Pederson to crash when he swung over to follow Cav on his stage 5 victory, if you watch the video he just swings across when he sees Cav on the left side and squeezes the other riders who were already there. He is dangerous.
As a Dane I can tell it was Philipsen who caused Mads Pedersen's crash. At that point Mads was very close to overtake the Green jersey instead he’s out of the race during the injuries from the crash… I don’t understand that Jasper Philipsen can get away with it time after time….
Chris has been a sweet guest host!👌Looking forward to seeing him again!
Remco thought he had a puncture due to sound. He was wrong. Jonas did not recon due to injuries. Wasn't planned that way. Jasper and Cav were warned the morning of the stage he was relegated because they both shot across the field the day before when Cav won. So Jasper was literally told that morning to knock it off. Glad he was relegated...he is the most dangerous sprinter in the game...and an asshole.
Couldn’t agree more - have been shouting that at the telly constantly (strangely enough the judges didn’t take any heed!). There is no denying Jasper is a great sprinter but he constantly deviates from his line, does other sneaky moves and boy does he whine about others. I wonder how well he would do without VDP.
Remco said he thought he heard his tire puncture but after some distance he realized all was fine
Cav has maybe been controversial in the past? That is quite an understatement! Can’t believe they actually fined him for something.
Usually. I never comment. But just love to Chris, and of course cade media. Absolutely loving both their contents. Especially this TDF podcast. Greatings from Berlin to the three of you
Philipsen has MVDP as the lead out man. That by itself is a luxury. He is getting him at front, but Philipsen still chooses to block other sprinters. That is an addiction that he has to overcome.
And MVDP is not giving him the kind of “slingshot” leadouts like last year’s Tour
Vingegaard said the plate in his shoulder bothers him. I can imagine that to impact him tenfold in a TT position. It’s really uncommon for him to not hold position.
Love watching the tour in the morning and sitting back to enjoy your show over my lunch break. Great work and looking forward to tomorrows show
Philipsen is no stranger to playing dirty. For me he showed his true colours on stage 18 of the 2023 TDF when he used less than honourable tactics to stop Pascal Eenkhoorn going up the road.
Do you not think that it's a relatively flat course that Vingegaard did amazing to be that close to the stronger riders? Damage limitation.
Cav's shoulder check would have been drilled into him on the track. I watch son learn how ride the tracl at derby and the shoulder check is so basic from the yiungest of kids upwards.
Santini performs a skin suit fitting with each category leader if they would like to. There’s a video of Pog getting fitted and then marking gaps and I’ll fitting areas with chalk so they can re hem
6:57 UCI went wild too, gave him a 200CHF fine for that lovely moment, the fun sponges!
Just UCI doing UCI things 😂
@@idlerfang facts!
Chris added a tremendous amount to the show - looking forward to seeing him next week- great show guys - thks
Welcome to the comment section of the Wild Ones Pro Show where we talk about Tour de France stuff 😂
They are obligated to use leader jerseys, except if they are not the owner of the jersey. In that case the rider can opt to use the nacional champ jersey
The bikes don’t have logo’s because of paint weight saving. There was an interview with one of the managers about it on Eurosport.
Remco thought he felt a puncture but, it wasn't. Tadej it was reported had spent signifcant time on this course.
Chris' insights and commentary are a great add.
Good job for understanding why the big chainrings are used!
I'm not sure if this was only in the danish interview. But Vingegaard said in an interview, that he had only seen todays stage on video. The reason being his recovery.
Not just in a Danish interview. He had a day looked out for recon, but then he crashed and had to recover, so no time to recon it.
the biggest problem with Jasper's / Alpecin's antics is that they have raised the temperature in the TDF peleton from last year and the other teams just aren't taking it now and are pushing back, literally. I dread to think the wreck that could happen.
thanks chris
What was really odd was that Philipsen might have won the stage if he was more concerned with riding straight.
Exactly my thoughts. He clearly has the power when he chased after Cav in Stage 5 but decided to veer sharp left to follow his wheel instead of powering thru in a straight line. He definitely contributed to Pederson's crash when the riders in front slowed. Jasper is reckless AF.
Cleaner backgrounds to your videos but they are cheesy. Your biggest area for improvement is your lighting design. Current setup is very flat. Create more distance to your backgrounds and add directional lighting (main, hair and kicker). This will improve the quality instantly. You are fast becoming the goto for cycling news. So tweak the brand and get more followers. Thanks for your vids. Thanks to Chris. Love hearing his opinions.
I was wondering, as I watched and noticed that Pog did seem to ease off a little toward the end, did he give the stage to Remco (or at least not herniate himself contesting first place). Once he knew that Jonas lost time, he was OK with Remco winning his first Tour stage. He knows that he can put enough time into Remco in the mountains to immunize himself against losing time in the last TT - he just needs to watch Jonas
Of course he wasn't giving anything to Remco. What he did was to consider risk vs safety, not wanting to crash to take a win that would risk the win of the Tour. In that light, a TT stage means nothing.
I miss Chris already
Remember the Kamikaze antics of Djamolidine Abdoujaparov, even worse than Jasper Philipsen.
he took himself out though on the barrier feet.
Great show guys!
Chris is a great addition to the team,a guy who knows what he is talking about!
Don't worry i already follow him on CZcams!
❤️
The situation in which Remco would’ve been able to ride his own skinsuit would have been if Pog was still eligible for the white jersey and Remco was supposed to ride it in behave of Pog. Meaning, if he is the owner of the jersey, he is supposed to ride with it. This is partially an assumption
Chris was great!
2:48 Wout reconed the course, so he probably fed back info back to the team.
Time Trials is where the cream rises above the lactic acid.
Remember that Evenepoel is two years more mature physically and mentally than your Vuelta reference. Pog has progressed too. I would still expect Pog and maybe Jonas if he recovers, to pull away from Remco and Primoz is the steeper Pyrenees mountains. We'll see. This year's TdF seems less predictable than some of the previous ones...
Thanks so much for having me for the last few episodes. Hopefully people watching found my comments insightful 🫶
It was great to watch and listen to your commentary as well, Chris.
Really good observations Chris.
It was good m8
Mate we love ya
You are the fkn boss Chris!!!
Pog looks a lot skinner this Tour. I don’t think his ribs and vertebrae were visible in previous years. I reckon he is 2-3kgs down.
Have no fear. Vingegaard's time comes towards the end. Have patience!
The people in leaders jerseys have to wear the ASO provided jerseys. They don't have a choice. I'd need evidence that they can wear a Santini-branded speed suit, not made by Santini.
Peter Sagan used to get away with it all the time
Oh come on, he did the recon, his team did the recon, Jonas is not a fool and he’s proved that over these last two years.
There is even footage of the recce on Instagram
100%. VLAB is just gaslighting because that is all that anyone seems to do these days.
Early no Bot, Notification comment. Go Cav Go
Yes, Jasper is a dangerous rider, no doubt, but that is good for the business. He and his kind of heros are easy to sell. And as everybody knows, Heros might be seriously wounded and only the real one is returning even stronger than before. Hi Primus, Jonas, Cav, ... Some principles will never change. The Circus has just changed its appearance.
At stage 5, Cav has ~ 1,5 bike length distance to the following sprinters after turning from far right to middle left - after checking out (once, as I found out not three times, Chris. By the way, I think he deviated so badly only to block out the stronger sprinters on the left side of the road. This move only secured his win. Clever Cav, as we know him.) So Cav left his track, but not causing a direct danger to others. 1,5 bike length is a quite securing distance for pros, on speed. ;-)
Jasper was causing the dangerous situation, when he instinctively followed Cav to the far left. Jasper rode directly into the 1,5 bike length and the following sprinters and Mads crashed badly. This is clearly forbidden as UCI rules state "Sprints 2.3.036 Riders shall be strictly forbidden to deviate from the lane they selected when launching into the sprint and, in so doing, endangering others."
But of course no reaction by Le Tour on such an historic money raining day like Cav has produced for them. A real pitty for Jasper, not going just straight on, this might have let him overtake even Cav that day. And furthermore on stage 6 he would not have been punished for hindering WvA, as he was not last year. Maybee even Phil Bauhaus might not have been punished at stage 5. By the way Cav had pushed him to the right causing the deviation.
No, that is no butterfly effect nor irony, that is what all uncontrolled powers do. Just name it. Have fun! ;-) Cu
Don’t tell Santini that other manufacturers are putting their name the replica product.
Jonas reconned the stage the morning of the stage. it was even on visma twitter
@chris - what is the jacket you’re wearing. I need one of those!
Chris Hall glazing Cavendish so much lol
How is the bottle cage thing on Pogi's bike legal? I am sure it is or he would not have been able to ride with the fairing thing. Any info? Thanks.
Agree with petersen… he didn’t hold his line… Cav looked and then moved… all other riders behind Cav also moved to follow him.
I love the nickname "Pog" for Pogačar 😂 Even us Americans can pronounce it!
How many times does Jimmy say the word “like” unnecessarily!😂
Those lids look like my favorite appendage
Cav is practically the Eyeshield 21 of cycling
It’s also important to note that it’s not just chainline. A bigger front ring decreases the chain tension which also reduces losses to friction. Chain tensions is equal to
(pedal force) x (crank length) / (chainring radius)
Jonas said he had watched videos of the TT course.
The drivel oozing from the riders mouths, though! Eeeeewe!
It’s only 25km! Still don’t understand why Jonas didn’t do a morning ride down the course.
Do individuals ever not make the time cut on a TT at TdF?
i would love to see a tt helmet painted like dark helmet's from spaceballs
Lots of heresy, you don't know for certain
After stage 5 Cav' was also warned about his sprint.
Pog will walk this tour easily i think Pidcock is struggling this year too.
“Vingergo” 🧐
Can we start calling him Cavdog yet?
Next podcast topic idea: The Downfall of Campagnolo?
Tech geeks!
2,400m is equivalent to my climbiest day (I'm a horrible climber).
Of course Vingegaard knew the course! Visma psychological games.
there is no way pog sat up. its not in his nature and when tours are won by seconds everyone of them counts
French rider Julien Bernard received a 200CHF (US$ 223) fine for stopping to kiss his wife and son during the middle of Friday's time trial stage at the Tour de France. The UCI jury cited rule Article 2.12.007-8.6 and fined him 200CHF for “unseemly or inappropriate behavior during the race and damage to the image of sport”.
Phillipsen may not be trying to put someone into the barriers. But he can feel them on his hip and he’s definitely trying to shut the door and blunt their speed. No bueno.
Jasper is a dirty sprinter.
Philipsen needs to minimize swerving as he’s just taking the longer line. Now that we’ve seen the results, he wouldve won more without risking the safety of others.
Cav got an official warning for his sprint for the 35th win so not exactly a good sprint beahaviour
I'm in no way condoning Jasper's sprint, but I think Jasper is just a racer at heart and is just trying to increase his chance of winning as much as possible. He's like a Max Verstappen/Ayrton Senna, they will be in that space and it is up to you to decide if you are going to crash or not. This is probably more dangerous on a bike race than even possibly in an f1 car though so, not the best mentality to have.
Glad they relegated Philipsen, the riders talk about improving safety and this is what that looks like. I wish they would have thrown him out of the TDF. Put some teeth in the rule and riders will respong.
No you can’t do that on a first offense. Especially given it was relatively controlled. Especially for mister disaster.
For me it would be yellow card and relegation. Next time? Pack your stuff and get yo ass back to Belgium. On the next train and go.
Yes it is too dirty
Get rid of TT bikes, TT helmets, skin suits, power meters and let them race the time trial on their regular bikes and kit. That would be a race of truth.
Let’s get to Philipsen quickly.
Because the other parts priors were 🚮
In most grand tour you need to wear the shirt/jersey /suite provided by the organiser In the tour the France for sure! You can not make a replica you need to use what is provided to you. You can not even use a shirt that was made for you but is from the same brand. If Remco was wearing white but is not the real owner of white he could opt to wear his own world champion suite. For example imagine Pogi was Remco's age and because Pogi is wearing already Yellow and is not able to ride with white Remco could wear white but is not the owner of white. However if you don't have a Jersey in a race (Yellow, polcadot, green, etc.) you can ride you won suite from an other brand with the sponsors logo's on it as long as the team and the sponsor allow it. It happens with more stuff than only clothes. It happens with bikes, shoes, sadles etc.
And about Pogi easing off, it is more about the nature of the course. It was more or les in 3 parts.
The first was technical which is better or Pogi but Remco is more eager that is why they were so close. Second part was uphill where Pogi is at the same level or even better then Remco. And the las part where it is all about the Watts vs Cx (aerodynamic drag coefficient) and that is where Remco shines. He has so much power for such a small guy with such a low CX. He is called the Aero bullet for a reason.
Jasper disaster is his Nickname for an other reason. It is not given by his formal director sportives but by Alexander Christophe.
He was called Jasper disaster because it was always chaos with Jasper, forgetting his shoes, other stuff, showing up late etc. but all team mates love him and even though something happened with Wout they are friends. The are from the same region by the way. @cademedia I'm happy to answer some things if you guys have questions.
If I'm not mistaking UCI rules say you you can not deviate from your chosen line and if you are the first you choose your line. You do't need to sprint in a lane. which means if the road has a bent and the sprinter takes the shortest way to the finis line it might happen that he keeps his line but not his lane. The problem with the UCI is that they are not consistent and most of the time only react when something happens. Yes Jasper his punishment was correct but Cav should also be punished not for his sprint but for the things which happened before but the did not do it because everyone wanted Cav to take his 35th. Other thing is also all main sprinters got a visit from the UCI with a warning what you can an can't do etc. The UCI went to Jasper's team not to Jasper which they did do with all other riders. Still it does not make up for Jasper's sprinting but it shows UCI is not consistent and as long as the are not consistent (sometimes the punish, sometimes they do not) it will keep happening. The same with the drafting behind cars to come back after a puncture, crash etc.. 95 percent of the times they tolerate it so I understand Cav his frustration.
Cream comes to the top irrespective of your lactose intolerance. It is biochemistry.
chemistry it may be but i think it's the more tongue in cheek reference Chris was making that if will be coming out of the bottom if you're lactose intolerant.
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Seems like Jasper likes to push people into the barriers, he’s dirty sprinter. Hope he changes that
Jasper has anger management issues.
Every Saturday ride hss an unsafe rider to be sure. Not exclusive to racing Fred Lives. just saying not hating 😢
I think you're biased towards Cav because he's British. But that's ok. :)
In my uneducated opinion van Aert could have won the stage.
Jasper PR Disaster.
Spinters are the most overrated element of the sport. Being pulled by teammates for 99% of the stage to race 1km and get all the glory. It’s almost criminal.
I'm going back to a day old video to make this comment. I'm unsubscribing from Cade Media for the duration of the Tour. I love your channel. It's great that you decided to do daily Tour reaction videos. But your thumbnails are spoilerish. A lot of us are always hours behind in our race watching. We're in time zones all over the world. If there was a way to mute your thumbnails, or if CZcams gave us a way to delay their appearance in our feeds, that would be great, but they don't. If someone is attracted to your Tour coverage, they just will be...it won't be based on the tease in the thumbnail. I wish CZcams content creators would get this. I completely bailed in Chris Horner earlier this year because of this. Creators need to trust their relationships with their audiences and refrain from this.
Yes jasper is a sore looser only way to win is dirty
A riskfree bunchsprint doesn't exist and would be boring to watch.
"Closing the door" is a trick of the trade and not that dangerous between sprinters.
WvA should have used his shoulder to open the gap but didn't have the speed or the guts.
You can't blame him after his latest crash and injuries.
Boring!