THAT Sprint Finish + Pros Slam ‘Riskiest’ Stage Of The Tour… - Wild Ones Pro Show TdF Stage 8
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Norwegian here. The news regarding André hit hard. Thank you for mentioning him today.
My condolences ❤
Absolutely horrific. Over the years I have lost some mates and if honest it hurts.
Condolences to his family, friends, and fellow riders. It's a "bummer" that we lose bicyclists in this manner. He was one of them.
Bini got his revenge on Phillipsen from Stage 7 last year when he was cut off during the sprint.
😆🎯
Philipson is not targeted, he is dangerous
Thank you … now that he got cought up , he’s playing safe .. na mannn 💚💚💚💚💚🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷💃💃💃💃💃💃💃at all cost we are keeping the green
Thank you!!! The way he almost ran my guy in to the barrier made me tighten up all over.
Well Jasper sprinted today by going from the far left side of the road to the far right side of the road from the 50m to the 25m mark. So I'm not sure he has learned about holding his line.
Tony is right sprinting is dangerous but so is everything else in cycling. The problem is there are rules. The UCI and Tour have select enforcement of their rules. I guess that select enforcement has finally caught up to Jasper.
The one thing Bini needed was proper leadouts and now that he has it he can launch his sprint from prime position
I have to disagree with Tony when he said he didn't think Jasper had done too much wrong. Tell that to Wout who had to stop pedaling in order to prevent a crash due to Jasper's reckless riding. Yes, sprinting can be dangerous. That does not grant immunity from prosecution for those cyclist who ride like certified buttholes.
Me too 💚💚💚💚💃💃💃💃🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷
Dear UCI: the only thing damaging to the sport of cycling about a rider stopping to kiss his wife, is you fining him for it.
For those against gravel in a stage: The TDF was almost entirely on gravel when it started.
The TDF was also fully unsupported when it started. The TDF also didn't have race radios, team cars.
Happy for us to go back to what it was if you care that much about continuity. But we have gravel races now. We don't need ROAD (ie tarmac.bitumen) to do it. Cobbles are still roads and there's no dedicated cobble races...so that still stands.
Each to their own but I don't need it in the TDF unless we are going to go old school with EVERYTHING else.
@@out_spocken that’s a rather Originalist and extreme view. And I’ve got news for you since you brought up cobbles and roads: these gravel sections are still roads, too.
I wasn’t implying that the TDF needs to be exactly as it was at its inception, only that there’s nothing fundamentally out of place about having gravel on a stage or two, since it was part of the TDF for many years. It’s not like they’re riding Unbound-like terrain. It’s smooth, maintained gravel ROADS (gasp! Road-riding can include gravel roads!).
There is plenty about the TDF that was never even imagined when it started, and there’s plenty of room for innovations and changes - including roads that aren’t coated with asphalt.
@@danielakerman8241 originalist and extreme view...how so?
And yes...really...dirt roads and gravel roads are roads? Wow..I must have missed that in life 101. Thanks for clarifying the obvious.
My argument is that no-one races cobbles other than road cycling. There's an entire different type of race if you want to ride or watch dirt and gravel cycling.
Did I find the stage interesting? Hell Yes. But I'd also find cyclists riding in heavy rain going down hill interesting....and they stop races now when that happens. Heck they even move the start of races some distance when the rain is too heavy.
You had half the peloton stuck completely stopped because the roads were 'that bad' that 'riders' had to get off their bikes and run up the hill. And that's where the race blew apart. I was watching it thinking...well...whats the point. When for a good minute or two the front of the race was hurling along and then you get to see the bcak and there are guys unclipped before they are even on the gravel section, before the banner, just waiting for people to start moving again.
Not because of a crash, rider error....purely because of shitty route planning.
It was interesting because of the attacks. I've no doubt they could create a route that was equally as interesting on paved roads that would allow for attacks and the peloton to be broken up instead of riding on more main roads.
But no...we have to make it riskier for riders...which again...is everything the UCI has said it is about now.
It's not needed. And if it is...why not open it up completely. Why stop at dirt? Why not let riders ride across mudslides, or in hail. Why not make them ride on uncompact dirt...you know...because that wasn't uncommon for the TDF either.
The TDF used to do a lot of things. So we should allow that all to happen again too?
No doubt it's a matter of choice. I just don't think it needs it. I'd rather see a bloody TTT than a gravel stage.
Heck...I reckon they should probably put jumps in the race too. Innovate into some BMX stuff. Or throw in some legit fallen trees and have a 'cross' stage. Innovation isn't always good. It's just a great word to use to justify things based on aspecific metric/metrics while disregarding other ones
@@out_spocken wow. lots of words. Too many. It was a simple comment on CZcams that you're taking waaayyyy too seriously. I'm not reading all that, but I'll assume you REALLY have a problem with a gravel stage in the tour. I have no problem with it. The variety is great, and so is the uncertainty. You're entitled to disagree.
Jasper is “marked” because he’s repeatedly dangerous. He was highlighted in Netflix documentary because he’s repeatedly been shown to ride beyond the rule. He’s not been called out for it before, and that’s the problem. The rule is there for a reason, his bad habit is the reason. I’m sure he’s not trying to ride dangerous, he’s not trying to hurt other riders; I’m just as sure he’s doing anything he can to win and prefers to be a victim than responsible for his actions.
There's a reason his name is Jasper the Disaster. His technique is absolutely reckless.
Favourite part of the stage was when Bini boxed jasper in after crossing the finish and slowing down to get to his sawny
Yessssssss 😅😅😅😅😅😅 me I was dancing 💃 cheering 📣 bini we Eritreans after the last year was he did to bini and uci didn’t regulated him , been waiting head to head and now 💚💚💚💚belongs to us
Yay Tony is back 🤗
Thanks
He is called Jasper Disaster for a reason... I don’t think what he did to Van Aert is much different from what Groenewegen did to Jakobsen, just a different outcome
As an american roadie turned graveleur, tomorrows stage has been a really easy sell to my casual riding friends who would have never otherwise been interested in the tour.
I wonder if that entered in to the decision at all.. the rise of gravel and the potential for showcasing the tour to a newer audience.
Possibly.
IF the Tour (and other Grand Tour) organizers, and stage route planners continue with this trend, and even expand it, maybe some of the teams will try to recruit Lambie (is he still even riding??), who can also TT on tarmac brilliantly, or one of the other gravel stars into their ranks.
Who would have ever guessed that a Dare and Cube bikes are killing it in the tour.
If you put Pog on my daughter's bike, pink trikes with unicorn decals would be killing it too. 🤣
Well to be honest the parent company of dare probably makes more than a few of the bikes in this race.
Well the versions of the bikes they are riding, I highly doubt they are readily available to buy to the average consumer.
I imagine everything is specially made to be perfect, and aren't just the normal machine made conveyor belt for the average consumer.
The bikes will have very little impact on these guys, its all down to ability. As said above put poggi on a unicorn bike with stabilisers and he would probably smash it
Did you guys even watch todays sprint. Look at Jasper. He went from middle to barrier once again. Every single time this guy sprints he goes diagonal.
Tryna replicate Cav but with little to no success 🤣
Imagine how fast he would be if he just went in a straight line.
Rarely do comment but these TDF chats... The best stuff on this channel since Francis' specials with James&Lawrence.
Feels like proper journalism, well prepared, Emily is informed, eloquent and just a joy to listen to. Jimi keeps things easy and fun but not too much that the result is too foolish.
And with the guests, Chris being so knowledgable & mindful as he is always seems and Tony being that fantastic, authentic pot of gold as per usual, this couldn't have done much better.
One of my favorite tour recaps available. Hats off.
Biniam girmay is smashing it this year, hopefully more to come 🤞
If JP is being targeted its because of his actions last year!!!! The TDF organisers prob watch the Netflix documentry as well and saw the overall attitude of the team!!!
Yay! My day is complete and I need a Tony translator please. Just joking. Tony is full of great energy
Thank you
Bini is not done with stage wins just yet.
Big Credit to Intermache. The team were impressive
Just imagine what Bini could do with an even better yet lead out team/train. 😉
Just for clarification, Strada Bianche (Pronounced Bian-kay ) is a Classic, it’s not a Monument.
Your becoming my favorite Tour review show. Chapeau.
I think the key point everybody missed in that podcase about Jasper Philipsen is Mathieu Van der Poel. Last year MvDP would lead Philipsen at the front of the peloton at full speed until the last 300m. This year MvDP is still helping Philipsen but you can see he is not as fully commited in this Tour de France, probably as he is taking it as a training for the olympics, as he was last year and doesn't lead Philipsen as far into the sprint preparation.
Agree. This was evident when MvDP is training with the breakawy on the medium mountains and came out flat for the next stage lead out.
Another great show, yes please, bring back the Prologue, the London Depart TDF was such a great day, would love to see that happen again !
Agreed on the Prologue, and even more TTs, even though that is against the current trend.
At one time some TdFs had FOUR Contre la Montres in them, even if one was a pure uphill/hillclimb.
I am surprised that the route planners made the last stage a TT for the first time in 35 years.
But maybe the rationale was that the last stage is going to be somewhat anti-climatic anyway due to not finishing in a sprint on the Champs, so what does it matter.
Might as well have the 'tension' of a nail biting TT (a la '89!) IF the GC is anywhere near close on that last day.
Why does so many people get uptight about either a cobble stage and now a dirt roads stage? It’s all part of the sport. Like Tadje says everyday is risky. These guys are pros so they should be able to handle these stages.
Because it is more unpredictable that normal. Anything can happen and hence-everyone nervous.
Exactly
you mean when they stop rides for rider safety because of the weather or dangers on the road like mudslides water etc? The pros literally have had the cobble section lead in changed because it's too dangerous...so we should disregard them sometimes and listen to them at other times?
The Strada Bianche is a one-day race; however, for the Tour, one puncture or one crash in the main group can change the outcome of the Tour de France. Thus, this is Russian roulette, the chances that the Tour de France is not won by the best but by the luckiest is increasing, which is one element but should not be the decisive one.
Stay well you 2. Looking forward to tomorrow’s show.
🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷 there will be a hero wellcome as usual we do in Eritrea Asnara but let me remind you it's not first stage for Eritrea in tour to France there was an other stage by Daniel teklehamanot as king mountain back 2015 if you can remember
he didn't win a stage. He won the Polka Dot jersey.
Bini Girmay black diamond great sprinter against all ads 🎉🎉🎉🎉viva ERTREA viva viva AFRICA 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Emily had the best joke about Tom P. resting the whole tour :D
Though, he almost won today.
Tomorrows stage is to push gravel bikes (even though the pros won't be using actual gravel bikes)
Money now in gravel as the best gravel racer in the world makes much more than if he move to tour rider. New bike sales moving to gravel…less costly ones vs ridiculous high end road bikes. Road racing in the US just can’t make it but gravel & mnt bike is more acceptable it seems. Next, geriatric e-bike racing😂
@@CarnivoreDMD Who is the best gravel rider in the world and which team pays him 7 million euros per year?
@@tonyg3091 He didn't compare him to the best road riders' salaries. Keegan Swenson was offered only low-paying contracts and stagiare contracts, which ultimately made it pointless to consider road. The point is, you get more bang for your buck racing gravel.
@@tonyg3091 There’s many YT videos about him. Not saying he would be a TDF winner but isn’t worth the $ moving out of the US domination gravel pro ranks to a maybe Euro road pro.
@@user-qx4bp5rf3n He said money is in gravel now that's why I was curious.
Honestly all of them get paid peanuts. Even Pog's salary is laughably low compared to the footballers.
I haven't seen any racing from TdF , but watch every episode 😅
It is just a new star is rising. Just accept the fact
You mean Bini? He has been up there in the mix for quite some time now, let's not act as if he came out of nowhere.
Get well soon Emily
Only heard guest Tony's voice initially, thought Sam Fender had been pulled in !
Get well soon, Emily and Will! I love the daily chat, I'd miss you guys.
One of the most interesting stages to watch through the whole thing, and it falls on the same time as the British F1 GP, and Raducanu in Wimbledon! At least it doesn't overlap with England in the football too!
Los go bini germay love you all my people Eritrean my brathars African thanks god🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷
It's not a great look for a sport when the most popular day of racing will be when they participate in another discipline of racing.
Get well soon!
Tony is the best
❤
"CH" in Italian sounds "K". So it's Strade Bianke ;)
Bee Yankee [Seep Kuss]🐝
@@savagepro9060 except it’s a ‘kay’ sound, not a ‘key’ sound.
Gravel is the tour is not needed as you have specific gravel races now. It will be interesting to see how the teams prepare or don't be prepare for this stage.
That kiss was the best thing to actually improve the image of the sport. UCI is out of touch.
He almost killed Fabio! Apparently he hasn't learned his lesson. I have no pity for him.
Fingers crossed everyone is well enough for tomorrows show.
I think Jimmy has given you Sundays Fluff Up Of The Day in todays show. He said the woman's Giro starts tomorrow, and ends on the 4th of July which is obliviously 3 days before it starts.
The fluff up of the day was all their pronunciations of Strade Bianche! 😅
Jasper needs to stop whining when he's the one causing the problems. Also, he's doing a great Wout impression, finishing second in the sprint nearly every time. First Cav beats him, then Bini twice. It's karma Jasper, stop endangering your fellow cyclists.
Nice
Bini the new Cav could be, but as much I love Cav, less whiney.
Girmay said it himself-on flat sprints he struggles against bigger guys as he can't push the same watts, so dunno about that new Cavendish thingy.
You right abd Bini is right but having said that he is still beating the big guys so I don’t know 🤷♀️💚💚💚💚💃💃💃💃🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷
Not that this works for riders trying to win stages, but a great place to be on gravel is also at the back. I did Unbound 200 this year, and coming in at about 16 hours meant that the faster riders cleared the worst of the pointy rocks out of the way for me 😂
Fluff up of the day. Jimmy said that the woman’s Vuelta starts today which is the 7th of July and he said that it finished on the 4th. They must be fast if they are going back in time.😂
They're including gravel sections because they don't care about the riders, they only care about profits. It's like Nascar, people watch it for the wrecks. So the Tour has now decided to include the gravel sections to get more people to watch hoping there'll be wrecks. Insanity. It's a road race, keep it on the tarmac.
Benard probably had on long socks too. What next, is he gonna hand a biddon to a kids climbing alongside on a bike path!
So the women's race is going to be so fast that they are going to go back in time?
No way the other gc teams are going to let pogi into a breakway
For gravel races, the teams select the most suitable riders. However, now riders who have never or seldom ridden on gravel will participate. Roglič, one of the greatest cyclists, but also one with limited bike handling skills who frequently crashes under challenging conditions, will really fear this stage. Many riders, many competitions, a nervous group, it is just too dangerous. Luck is a factor at the Tour but should not be the decisive one.
Would you dare to try a… dare bike?!
So the womens italia are time travelling to finish on the 4th july lol
South London here 😅 thank you for your honest review
But talking about the cry baby Jasper , Tony .. maybe you lot can’t say it in your podcast but I will say it
No one will call Jasper the disaster if he wasn’t cus I never heard any other rider with a nick Nike name like da right ,
Let’s talk about how many times he attacked vanarut , you saw wa he did to bini last year , the whole world watch it .. did UCI did something No .. and now this one which cost him .. good .. yes he is a disaster yes he is a bully as simple as that .. a lot ppl were saying .. he will kill someone .. yes we all watched him so comeon …
You said bini might win another one .. I bloody agree with you .. he will win 🏆 twice and keep the green 💚💚💚💚💚💃💃💃💃🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷 bini all the way
2 of his wins last year should have been taken away
I agree 💚💚💚💃💃💃💃🇪🇷
It's NOT just for viewers, entertainment, etc. It is so the competition is WORTH the accolade. If you are going to call this "the Toughest", then make it BE the toughest! The Tour has NEVER hesitated to thrust added challenges into the mix, precisely SO THEY WOULD consider it the toughest, period. If pro riders don't like it, FIND ANOTHER SPORT. Do the Giro twice, specialize in one-day or one-week races. F it, do crit "racing" for all I care. Just DO NOT complain about an event that is SUPPOSED to be tough!
Why in the world would you want to watch a stage where riders you support and have been training for months could be eliminated because someone thought it would be cool to ride on gravel?
You can watch gravel races, MTB, races and cyclocross races if you like that.
I subscribe in the name of Biniam
Bini 💪🏼🇪🇷
Not all roads are paved. They don't call the sport blacktop only cycling. They need to QQ about stage 9
Bini ain’t a pure sprinter, he’s more of a hybrid like Wout
Sorry but completely disagree on Jasper's behaviour. Reckless is an understatement. Consistently and knowingly massively deviates racing line to force riders accelerating past him into barriers. People trying to argue about inherent danger of sprint finishes must have short memories - Jakobsen crash! Riders have a duty to hold their line!
14th of July****
Polka dot jersey wearer looks like a track cyclist.
A few in the peloton do as well, and not all of them are pure sprinters either.
The only people that are damaging the image of one of the most interesting TDF in years, is the UCI with there idiotic fines.
As for sprinters changing lines while sprinting, IF the UCI were really serious on that they would have DQd Girmay as he closed De lei the same way that Jacobsen did to WVA.
But there us no consistency in there rulings and to dq Girmay is a place they didn't want to go and this is coming from a Girmay fan.
Francis come back and save your channel!
Cade Media has drifted so far away from why it was such a refreshing change from the rest of the normal pro-race oriented podcasts. Now, it’s full of race content BUT at a level of friends chatting down the pub, with little real racing knowledge or factual content. I subscribe to ‘Watts Occurring’ and ‘The Cycling Podcast’ for quality race oriented content.
I miss the massively refreshing take on the passion of cycling and guidance through all the equipment options away from industry pressure to buy stuff that I don’t need or makes no difference to my non-pro performance. Not sure I will take three weeks of this content…
My Beryl and i both have had one day covid(like the pog had). Beryl had it twice and was out for two days, i had it for half a day. So chill guys you will be fine.
Bini Eritrea 🇪🇷 🇪🇷 🇪🇷 🇪🇷 🇪🇷
Rest up and heal. Losts of Zinc and Vitamin C.
How interesting, the same year that the TDF's greatest sprinter, Cavendish, is riding his Swan Song
is the same time the first black rider is making his 'formidable' Entrance
And is snatching the coveted GREEN JERSEY in the fray!
How is he making his debut? Girmay rode last year's tour as well.
@@tonyg3091 got his ass kicked by a certain disaster
@@savagepro9060 Girmay is a fine rider but he will always be struggling on flat sprints against bigger guys, just can't push the same crazy amount of watts, Today's sprint was at 40 something km/h when normally they move at 70+.
The UCI needs to be ousted. We need a coupe where the world say screw you we’ll find another governing body. The EWS should have told the uci to stick it. I haven’t watched any enduro racing since the uci bought the rights.
You guys are pulling better views than lance Armstrong btw. 😎
Why listen to an American when you can listen to a Pom?
Philipsen got beat by Binyam Grmay😂
How come he win Philipsen from the secend pleac to the 1st pleac😮
I can't blive that😮did you see what i saw😊
A rider kissing his wife in the middle of a race, is bad for the image of the sport?
So if his 'wife' was male that would've represented the image of the sport?
The LGBGHHHASNJSHcVuGnEtWs would go crazy!
idk how you can call TDF riders "normal people"
stop making excuses for Phillepson, look back on last years sprint stages where he got away 3 times with dangerous blocking on 3 stages without penalty, taking 3 wins and the green jersey. Sure the sprints are dangerous, all the more reason to take reckless out of it until they learn new habits
There's covid reminding you it exists...
Please stop putting spoilers in your thumbnails. I don’t want to block your channel.
don't jump on youtube till you've watched the race. pretty simple. Once this is done, it'll be a whole lot easier to find the cast needed when the info is in the title instead of 'stage 8 thoughts' 'stage 9 thoughts'. I literally spent a day on youtube today and kept flicking past this till I'd seen the stage myself. It's not that hard bro.
First black rider to win stage boy's..
It's his second stage win this Tour already. First repeat stage winner this edition
@@elburrodebasilea1146 so happy for him it's about time ..
@@TREK8481 it's time when it's time. That's all there is to it.
Sounds like the UCI is kind of woke 😒
That’s wa I said but Waite till the end of the race cus I don’t trust them 🇪🇷🇪🇷💚💚💃💃💃
you guys gotta make a "wild ones podcast highlights" channel or something. this talk show style vidoes arent really what im here for. and it makes me want to unsub.
Pog definitely for next stage, Jonas might follow, but if only Wout clamps Pog. Pog would do another Strada-esque stage. Definitely a stage for the Big engines, and the Classics boys. 🫡😍
Nothing of this will happen.
Love to see Bini dominating the sprints! Jasper the Disaster is definitely cooked
Finally Tony is back! I'm getting tired of Chris Hall glazing Cavendish literally every episode 🥱