Tour de France: Sports Tech & Behind The Scenes!

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    Here's your complete behind the scenes tour at the 2024 Tour de France time trial stage, focused on sports technology like power meters, smart trainers, bike computers, laundry machines, and plenty more!
    The Tour de France is in full swing, and with it, a few days ago, the time trial stage. That’s always an interesting opportunity to check out which sports tech riders are using, such as bike computers, trainers, as well as things like laundry machines and fans (the swirling variety, not the screaming variety).
    In the above video give a walk-through of the entire team/technical zone (called the paddock), where I show how it all works. From the warm-up routines/schedules, to each step along the way from warm-up to the starting gate (including UCI checks, additional warm-up trainers at the starting gate, and more). And obviously, we talk pineapples too.
    Now when it comes to Tour de France stages, they’re basically in two core buckets: Regular stages and Time Trial Stages. I suppose there’s now gravel stages too, but, we’ll keep things simple. These two buckets employ different bikes, and we see teams use additional equipment not typically used on a road stage. For example, very few riders will warm-up for a regular road stage - since the warm-up is built-in to the 10KM or so of the race. Some teams will use trainers for a cool-down after a stage though.
    Likewise, when it comes to bikes, being different bikes we often see different groupset configurations used, as well as different bike computers and bike computer mounts used. For example, at this year’s time trial stage I saw even more teams using the tiny (and old) Garmin Edge 130 Plus than any previous time trial stages.
    If you’re looking for marginal gains at the absolute pointy end of this TT, I suppose saving a few grams and possible aero hit, in this area makes sense. Of course, sometimes it’s just logically easier to fit mount-wise within the aerobar gap space.
    Of course, the use of TT bikes means this isn’t a good stage to take a closer look at which bike computers teams are normally using. And likewise, which power meters companies are normally using. Most of the power meter pieces do line-up to their team Shimano/SRAM sponsorships, with an exception for one team on SRM (Team UAE). There are 15 teams on Shimano, 4 teams on SRAM, and 3 teams split on FSA or SRM.
    But on normal road stages, you’ll also be able to sometimes sneak a look at which Shimano teams are putting power meter pedals on there to get more accurate data. Teams continue pressure Shimano in this area, and outside of visible races where people like me take photos of bikes, many Shimano-equipped teams and riders are using power meter pedals for more accurate training power data.
    At first glance I saw the long-available Elite Direto XR, but then I noticed the “Team Edition” sticker. I figured that was just a random marketing thing since it was with the team, but after texting with Elite, turns out, that’s actually a legit new edition of the Elite Direto XR with new software features.
    Specifically, this new Elite Direto XR Team Edition will feature: Race Mode (10Hz data transfer), Shimano Di2 Trainer Control, Pain Break, and Standalone Mode. It’ll be available exclusively at Decathlon later this summer. A clever partnership, and cool to see Elite add those features in.
    Beyond that, we saw Tacx kit out some of their teams with the Tacx NEO 3M, but others were on the Tacx NEO 2T. As usual, Tacx had skinned their trainers (NEO 3M units) for teams currently holding title jersey’s, like the KOM/sprinter/etc jerseys.
    #TourDeFrance #Cycling #TdF
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Komentáře • 110

  • @gilleek2
    @gilleek2 Před 22 dny +45

    Crap tidbits for the win

  • @aslam7952
    @aslam7952 Před 22 dny +20

    Love the way Ray does his sponsorships. No overhyping products or promoting brands that he reviews.

  • @ShawnIsBatman
    @ShawnIsBatman Před 22 dny +20

    Best TdF behind the scenes video I have seen to date...outstanding!

  • @bengt_axle
    @bengt_axle Před 22 dny +47

    They should have a fan zone for the fans.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 22 dny +4

      Well played...

    • @JustSueMe
      @JustSueMe Před 21 dnem +4

      They should call it "OnlyFans", since it's exclusive to the fans😂

  • @stevenb.o.2767
    @stevenb.o.2767 Před 22 dny +11

    I like how you look at the logistics around the tour as well. As always a pleasure and highly anticipates video. Thank you.

  • @Carftymk
    @Carftymk Před 22 dny +18

    soudal uses the same 20€ lidl high tech dryer i had as a student

  • @IslandLife-if5zy
    @IslandLife-if5zy Před 22 dny +6

    Really nice coverage. Great job getting into the details we never see or hear about.

  • @DUBBLARON
    @DUBBLARON Před 22 dny

    Yes! Thank you!

  • @klpumper
    @klpumper Před 22 dny +2

    I really enjoy your videos, Ray! Outstanding work. Thanks!

  • @jeremys24
    @jeremys24 Před 22 dny +2

    super interesting! followed the tour for years but hadn't seen a behind the scenes tt edition before, thanks!

  • @hildybean
    @hildybean Před 22 dny +1

    Thanks Ray!

  • @AndrewButlerPhoto
    @AndrewButlerPhoto Před 7 dny

    Fantastic video, really informative. Well done!

  • @benjammind
    @benjammind Před 21 dnem +1

    Excellent video! love seeing behind the scenes

  • @getoutmore
    @getoutmore Před 22 dny

    Love these videos thanks ❤

  • @jaibhardwaj4886
    @jaibhardwaj4886 Před 22 dny +3

    we need more of these videos!

  • @mark9328
    @mark9328 Před 17 dny

    Great BTS video! Very cool to see how things are done by each team.

  • @jpmanso
    @jpmanso Před 22 dny

    Great inside view, looking forward for a normal road stage

  • @randyandkeri
    @randyandkeri Před 22 dny

    Fantastic content.

  • @GordonMoat
    @GordonMoat Před 19 dny +2

    Sewage pump out … Ray keeping us up to date on all the latest sh*t at the TdF.

  • @RoadBikeCC
    @RoadBikeCC Před 22 dny

    Cheers DC 🖖

  • @Papa-Bogey
    @Papa-Bogey Před 22 dny +5

    I had to rewind the “fan” segment three times. Sorry, early AM in NJ, slow on the uptake and I haven’t had my first cup of coffee yet …😂

  • @guzz95
    @guzz95 Před 22 dny

    Great video, got crappy at the end! 😂

  • @avibank
    @avibank Před 22 dny +1

    Crazy that these new trainers aren't fully or at least partially battery powered like the Neo. Such an underrated feature.

  • @jimpeyton1459
    @jimpeyton1459 Před 22 dny +1

    Oh, and another thing: TPC rocks. Sold an old Cannondale CAADX for store credit and my participating LBS. Whole process painless with the LBS doing the packup/sending the bike to TPC. Store credit went to purchasing new gravel bike from LBS.

  • @BrewsGamesRides
    @BrewsGamesRides Před 22 dny

    The pineapple is working! 👍 Love these videos every year.

  • @dbranc0
    @dbranc0 Před 16 dny

    4:20 the blind man is making sure everything stays in place... eheheh

  • @michaelpolakowski7301
    @michaelpolakowski7301 Před 22 dny +1

    It's a bit hard to read, but from what I can tell (@ 1:48), Gaviria's start time was too early to eat at the hotel, so he had lunch at the Snack Bus. Any chance you can get some more info on the Snack Bus? It sounds like a great place to hang out.

  • @jimpeyton1459
    @jimpeyton1459 Před 22 dny

    Great stuff Ray, love these behind the scenes videos. You mentioned some riders may be using pedal power meters from non- sponsors....did you see any Favero Assioma pedals...on road bikes obviously.
    Thanks as always.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 22 dny +1

      Thanks! I didn't see any Favero there. There is I believe a women's TdF team that has them, but nothing on the men's side. They're a bit harder to get away with in a hidden aspect, due to the pods.

    • @tomconway6808
      @tomconway6808 Před 22 dny

      @@Dcrainmaker I wonder if they're going to eventually update their road pedals to use the spindles from the PRO MX's. Although I guess if they did that they would lose pedal body compatibility.

  • @hernanhernandez3861
    @hernanhernandez3861 Před 10 dny

    Interesting, many racers not wearing gloves. Pretty rare when I was racing 20+ years ago.

  • @foxjam
    @foxjam Před 20 dny

    It'd be cool to be able to buy one of those nameplates that go on the front of the car. After a brief search I couldn't find anything. Even a replica would be nice.

  • @mfowler4651
    @mfowler4651 Před 20 dny

    I would really like a review on fans with the db (noise level) on full blast and at what frequency in Hz. I like to play tempo music as I Zwift and with 3 fan that I currently use it can be quite noisy.

  • @guidovonohlen738
    @guidovonohlen738 Před 22 dny

    The team cars put lots of bikes on the roof, to push more air forward behind the rider.

    • @jeff_aurand
      @jeff_aurand Před 22 dny

      That's why the follow distance regulation changed a few years ago. After that Ganna TT when the Ineos car was a solid wall of bikes and they were practically on his wheel. They need to stay 15 meters back instead of 10. Although 15 still seems questionable.

  • @chopsuey33
    @chopsuey33 Před 22 dny +1

    0:33 What company makes those washer and dryer , @dcrainmaker ?

  • @loulew07
    @loulew07 Před 20 dny

    At 2:51 are those Garmin Tacx NEO 2 Models

  • @lidarman2
    @lidarman2 Před 22 dny

    How much maybe has Stages demise influenced the power meter usage? I remember when they sponsored a team in the Tour.

  • @NathanBudd
    @NathanBudd Před 22 dny

    Do you see many mechanics calibrating the power meters before the riders go off?

  • @user-iz8mu5uj8v
    @user-iz8mu5uj8v Před 22 dny +3

    The "Crap Truck" made my day..........Like and Subscribe..........Always my favorite!

  • @tw1npe4ks
    @tw1npe4ks Před 22 dny +2

    When there will be international shipping in TPC?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 22 dny +2

      As much as I'd love to say 'tomorrow', that's realistically gonna be tough (given the expensive logistics of bidirectional stuff). Though, you can always do what I did...swing by their Boulder-area facility and pick-up the bike at their front door (they have a small shop there too, plus a neat museum collection of pro bikes). :)

  • @MrR1ma
    @MrR1ma Před 22 dny

    Ray, are you going to do one of these for the TDF Femmes TT again? What do you think about their tiny Rotterdam loop?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 21 dnem

      Yup, I’ll be there! The mini TT thing is definitely unique, but keep in mind there’s two stages that day!

  • @alfrede.newman1838
    @alfrede.newman1838 Před 22 dny

    Question: a few years ago when I followed the Tour for a few Stages I saw journalists and teams with 'race books' where each Stage had complete race details for the Teams (start, elevations, ...). It was quite a thick book published by the TDF organizers. Is there somewhere to get a copy of that book so we all can better for the Stages?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 22 dny

      Yup, they're great. Still love that it's paper. If you do some quick googling for it, you'll find it pretty easily.

    • @alfrede.newman1838
      @alfrede.newman1838 Před 22 dny

      @@Dcrainmaker I know there's a 'UK' and an 'Australian' edition, but I was looking for the books the teams on the Tour use. I'm still looking but is there a chance you could suggest a key phrase or words to Google search on? Many thanks

  • @stuartmclean3843
    @stuartmclean3843 Před 22 dny +1

    It's OK checking fir motors etc but when I rider does a bike swap mid race wether its planned or due to a supossed "mechanical" it kinda makes the pre race check obsolete 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @HobbyHoarder
      @HobbyHoarder Před 22 dny

      They also check a lot of the bike after the race and if I remember correctly, winners and jersey holders get checked every time, regardless.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 22 dny +2

      @@HobbyHoarder Correct. They hold/check the winner bikes (using the NFC tags on every bike), plus *all* bikes are inventoried pre-race with the non-removable tags for tracking, and then randomly/periodically checked as well. It's not a perfect system, but it makes it just difficult/messy enough that it's not worth it anymore for the teams (I fall in the camp of strongly believing motors have likely been used in the TdF in some past years).

    • @LarsRyeJeppesen
      @LarsRyeJeppesen Před 21 dnem

      No

  • @ahhalla
    @ahhalla Před 22 dny +4

    Could you make a list of the power meter each team uses?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 22 dny +1

      Yup! Coming up. It's a bit messier to do at the TT stage, because sometimes we see slight differences in the groupset configurations due to the TT bikes. Usually it's 95% the same, but I'd hate to miss the 5% that are swapped/missing. Plus, the regular stages allow me to find the fun teams that have power meter pedals when they aren't "supposed to". ;)

    • @ahhalla
      @ahhalla Před 22 dny

      @@Dcrainmaker Fantastic!

  • @puppet-head
    @puppet-head Před 22 dny

    What was the bag over the jockey wheels on that trainer for?

  • @winstonbeede9782
    @winstonbeede9782 Před 21 dnem

    Can someone explain why they are using 11speed cassettes on the trainer. Do they run 11 speed on the tt bikes?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 20 dny

      My guess is that because the NEO 2T (and 3M) came with 11sp, they were just two busy to swap out and riders are in ERG mode anyway where it doesn't matter. Or, alternatively, they have actually swapped to 12sp, but never re-wrote things. I didn't count cogs.

  • @Insertnombre
    @Insertnombre Před 21 dnem

    Do they use the edge 130 for the weight savings or is there another reason?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 21 dnem +1

      Partially weight, partially size (fits better in aero bars), and partially slightly better aerodynamics (but that really depends on numerous factors).

  • @almosh
    @almosh Před 18 dny

    What are the washing mashine sponsorships of the peloton?

  • @adamweb
    @adamweb Před 22 dny +1

    Why do they even have a clothes dryer with the washer? Isn't 99% of cycling gear line dry only anyway?

    • @jeff_aurand
      @jeff_aurand Před 22 dny +2

      For you and I. For kit that only needs to last a (partial) season why not tumble it on low or no heat to speed up the drying process. Same logic for them using power washers on the bikes.

  • @WrapMyBike
    @WrapMyBike Před 22 dny +1

    Those wrapped smart trainers and bike computers look on point! 😎
    We are of course completely neutral when we say this 😉
    Great video Ray! Looking forward to more tech and hidden gems from this year's Tour.

  • @timetrialist
    @timetrialist Před 22 dny

    Did you get any free team bottles?

  • @ericsleeth
    @ericsleeth Před 21 dnem

    Why are shimano power viewed as inaccurate? DC's review of the Rally seems to say they are accurate. Is it just the crank-based power?

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 21 dnem

      Rally is a Garmin power meter, which is accurate. Shimano makes their own power meter that’s inaccurate.

  • @rein2523
    @rein2523 Před 22 dny

    FYI the red vehicles are not for VIPs but for race jury. The black ones are tho.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 22 dny +2

      My understanding is that the backseats are still for VIP's (you can actually see some getting in the red car at 10:42). Cheers!

    • @jimpeyton1459
      @jimpeyton1459 Před 22 dny

      ​@@Dcrainmaker did you get a VIP ride???

  • @wesleycwagner
    @wesleycwagner Před 20 dny

    Think of all the things you could hide over the Colnago bottom bracket...

  • @Eirikkinserdal
    @Eirikkinserdal Před 22 dny +3

    Took some seconds to get the "fan" pun 😂

  • @rein2523
    @rein2523 Před 22 dny +1

    There are not 15 teams sponsored by Shimano. Most of them use their groupsets but are not sponsored and use different powermeter.
    The sponsored teams are:
    - Alpecin
    - FDJ
    - INEOS
    -Soudal Quickstep
    - DSM
    That's all. For example if you noticed at 16:00 Pogacar was using SRM instead of Shimano.

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker  Před 22 dny +2

      SRM is the singular example of a power meter sponsorship pre-existing the Shimano drivetrain sponsorship. Shimano also has two levels of sponsorships, one being outright sponsoring of compenents on a team (for compensation). The secondary being giving groupsets to cover it (more common on the women's side). However, there are a number of teams not on those 5 above that are upset about the Shimano accuracy issues, but are being told by Shimano they aren't allowed to use other power meters, per contracts.

    • @rein2523
      @rein2523 Před 22 dny +1

      @@Dcrainmaker Interesting! Thanks!

    • @rein2523
      @rein2523 Před 22 dny +1

      @@Dcrainmaker BTW interesting that UAE is using different chainrings and rotors tho!

  • @RyonBeachner
    @RyonBeachner Před 22 dny

    Is the Lidl Trek Pineapple thing a swingers joke? Or am I a pervert and there’s a gap in certain subculture signaling between the US and Europe? 😂

  • @bighammer3464
    @bighammer3464 Před 22 dny

    16:06 what mad lad writes their 1s to look like cursive I?

  • @brentcharlton1065
    @brentcharlton1065 Před 22 dny +1

    They doing trace testing off of that crap truck? 😂

  • @peterago1082
    @peterago1082 Před 22 dny

    its like i'm watching an auction

  • @PedroDivisez
    @PedroDivisez Před 22 dny

    all goes down to a crap in the end :D

  • @-es2bf
    @-es2bf Před 20 dny

    the brand who paid him the most

  • @BrianKellison
    @BrianKellison Před 22 dny

    💩👍

  • @HeyWattsUpCycling
    @HeyWattsUpCycling Před 22 dny +7

    the tech is all run of the mill stuff. I wanna hear more about the entire med/drug/supplement stack everyones on. even some random guy at the back of the pack.

  • @user-bc8vt6fx8h
    @user-bc8vt6fx8h Před 14 dny

    Đi ngủ ngon nhe em ngủ ngon nha

  • @trbeyond
    @trbeyond Před 22 dny

    That was a load of crap 😂

  • @mioumitsou
    @mioumitsou Před 11 dny

    its funny cause all bikers are on PEDs but the bikes are what are being checked

  • @ipaxton
    @ipaxton Před 10 dny

    The shit truck craps me up

  • @neilfurby555
    @neilfurby555 Před 11 dny +1

    Maybe slow down your commentary a little, its difficult to follow, you are a bit too excited!

  • @peterago1082
    @peterago1082 Před 22 dny +15

    can you talk slower its like your speed reading, take a breath and slow down

    • @vasusharma28
      @vasusharma28 Před 22 dny +11

      Can you learn to understand faster? 🤷

    • @blakietaverna8354
      @blakietaverna8354 Před 22 dny +2

      I’m watching it at x1.25 speed 😂😂

    • @Eirikkinserdal
      @Eirikkinserdal Před 22 dny +3

      Just slow it down man 😅

    • @alexsinbb
      @alexsinbb Před 22 dny

      DCR lives in Spain. Probably just trying to keep up with locals.

    • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
      @SonnyDarvishzadeh Před 22 dny

      @@vasusharma28 That's a very ableist comment.

  • @stevenf4511
    @stevenf4511 Před 20 dny +1

    UCI causing the usual nuisance.