Why Do Liverpool Fans Dislike Michael Owen?
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2024
- While Michael Owen was unreal for Liverpool, he isn't too fondly remembered on Merseyside. I'm looking at the top 6 reasons Liverpool fans dislike Michael Owen (not just THAT one), and giving my own opinion on each.
Please keep in mind some of this is my opinion, and I'm sure I have some things wrong here!
00:00 - A brief history
01:23 - Reason 1 - ENG-ER-LAND
02:30 - Reason 2 - The way he left Liverpool
03:10 - Reason 3 - His personality in general
06:19 - Reason 4 - Blaming Liverpool on his injuries
08:08 - Reason 5 -Choosing Newcastle over Liverpool
09:23 - The Michael Owen Pamphlet
12:11 - Reason 6 - Joining Manchester United
13:45 - Final Thoughts
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He comes across as an incredibly dry sort of man. Not dislikable by any means, but he seems to have a, ''let's get the graphs out'' type of personality that's hard *to* like. Perfect for no-strings-attached clubs and fans like Real Madrid. Liverpool as an entity is an emotional club; behaviour considered a sleight resonates particularly deeply. His ultimate undoing with Liverpool fans will always be joining the mancs. Graph away, Michael. That's unforgivable.
Thats 100% spot on.
That and him never really having seen any films because they're not real so what's the point. Demented
@@andycantwellHave you seen his Prestige Motors advert? Give it a search 🤦🏻♂️
it hurt you more knowing that united gave him the one thing you never could
Put together, why Origi is a legend.
Good idea!
The way he left was what did it for me. He took the piss out of us. He was worth easily £30m and we got less than a third of that.
It's telling that none of his former clubs look back on his time too fondly 🤷♂️
Great video.
As a Liverpool fan, Owen occupies such a strange place. A great player that probably was mismanaged early in his career which later led to his injuries.
For all his talent, it feels strange that at the five clubs he played for, he isn’t remembered fondly by any of them.
Very true, he has a case for some of it but no club seems to remember him fondly!
Mcmannaman ran his contract down and left Liverpool which was just as bad but doesnt get the same hatred because he didnt go to Utd@@andycantwell
Someone asked Owen "Which way do you see this game going?" and his reply was "It can go one of 3 ways..."
To be fair, win lose or draw is three ways so that wouldn’t have been one of his worst days.
He went to United. I'd imagine it is as simple as that. Same reason in reverse is why we united fans hate Paul Ince.
Michael Owen is a traitor not cause he went to Madrid and left Liverpool or him joining Newcastle or stoke it was joining utd and winning the premier league with them but also these days he will act like a liverpool legend and a utd legend he is neither he kept getting injured since leaving Liverpool his last silverware being the league cup against utd he was a hero at Liverpool and he tarnished his whole legacy. For money and to win a Premier league with the he rivals. He will never be a liverpool legend. Fowler went to city before they had oil money but played for Liverpool after I think Owen is just a football mercenary who likes money but joining utd when he had offers wen was linked with other premier league teams and other teams abroad. Fergie at utd was a big gambler and loved the horses races and so did Owen. He will always be a good player until 03 but his whole legacy has been tarnished now from what he says in his book about Newcastle and stoke to playing and scoring for rivals and celebrating with utd
As an ex Sports journo I talked with colleagues and God did I hear some stories about Michael Owen (some never printed) he's ruthless, cold amd tbh not very bright, that goes back decades. The ruthless was quite evident in his choice of club he went to, Real Madrid after Lpool assured him.of a rebuild, Newcastle because according to him on his way back to Liverpool apparently (Ncastle bumped up the price) but having a helicopter to fly him back and forwards in his tenure there wasn't about money and then the ultimate kick in the cojones joining United, he's the type of guy you wouldn't trust with the last life jacket and is a pure opportunist selfish individual, that's why Liverpool can't stomach the guy, oh and his analysis of football is tedious and that Dubai ad...Jesus christ, I had Ted Maul from Brass Eye in my head 'Coswick, from the moon satellite it's a small dot, but on the ground it's a huge mess like Dante meets Bosch in a crack lounge'
Oh wow, I have to say I would believe all of that. The brass eye comparison is absolutely spot on as well 😂
He just didn’t understand the mentality behind playing for Liverpool that’s why he left for Madrid just so he could say he had played for them, joining Utd was unforgivable even though not directly from Liverpool he obviously lacked empathy for LFC or it’s fans otherwise he would have backed out of Utd offer, Fowler was completely different as he was a scouser and was so excited about coming back even though not playing as much
it hurt you more knowing that united gave him the one thing you never could
Loved this video! What a chilled vibe and hilariously informative
Thank you very much!
Finding out what kind of man he really is crushed me. When I was a plucky 4 year old boy first getting into sports, I just thought that Michael Owen was a guy who liked to play football and so I felt I could identify with him. I recall reading a how-to-become-a-footballer type book that he had wrote and seeing him playing his PS1 and having a kick about with his friends made me think 'oh, he's just like me but older'. How wrong I was!
Great video, appreciate your work mate! What about Fernando Torres, El-Hadji Diouf, Paul Konchesky, Charles Itandje and some others...
Great suggestions! Need to do more non weekly review vids!
Love this so much. You should do something similar on Jose Mourinho...
Thank you! And thats a very good shout
I don’t like Owen. But he made the 2005-06 Champion League winner much more sweeter, that Liverpool won right after he left for Real Madrid to win more trophy.
Great stuff Andy, how about MacManaman next?
Yes think i would enjoy doing that one!
@@andycantwell be cruel, in fact be very cruel 🤣 he did a number on us and is viewed as a legend! He is quite definitely not that man. Even rats chase away their traitors. So I give you my best . . feck off smc feck off away from LFC and get yourself a life far away from Liverpool. Oh, and sort your hair out deek head! 🤣🤣🤣
Great video. How about a video based on our biggest flops with their biggest moments of ‘glory.’ Initial thoughts… david n’gog scoring against utd, ryan babel scoring against utd, aquilani…think he scored in europe? Andy carroll against city, mellor against arsenal, voronin…when he was sold. Etc etc. just a thought to remind us of how things could always be worse 😂
Oh thats a class idea!! Definitely going to look into that one, could do loads with that
He was just breaking through when I started supporting Liverpool so I'll always have a bit of a soft spot for him - people forget just how good he was in those first few years at Liverpool. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that he was attracting Mbappe-like levels of hype after the '98 World Cup. But I don't think any fanbase really warmed to him - even while at Liverpool he never seemed to be as liked as Fowler or Gerrard though.
He never seemed that into football either, which makes it really weird that he's regularly on as a pundit (he's not as bland as he used to be but still not great)
He was not as loved as fowler or Gerrard, I think it's because fans saw fowler and Gerrard as one of their own whose fame stature ad global association of them was in a Liverpool shirt. As soon as owen scored THAT goal against Argentina he would never have that initial associations as a liverpool player first a d that's what separated him from Robbie.
I dint think liverpool fans dont like him we just dint put him in tbe idol category his fame and ability would indicate.
I’d like to hear your thoughts on the Wijnaldum situation he was one of my favourite players and the way he left has always been so confusing to me
Always seemed an obvious 'player has one big contract left so runs down his deal to maximise the money he recieves on his next contract' type thing...he wanted that sweet signing on bonus that only out of contract players on a free receive, see mcmanaman and Owen for previous examples, there was no way we could ever match what psg offered him with our extremely strict wage structure that had to have salah as the biggest earner or it would simply break down into chaos, I mean mane was raising hell wanting parity with mo, eventually leaving because we couldn't pay them both 300kpw+ so there was no way in hell wijnaldum could be paid anything like that. Psg on the other hand didn't have to pay a fee for him and are rich so literally threw money at him...despite what he said publicly it is now obvious gini never had any real interest in staying at Liverpool...and why should he? He was worth the money he got at psg and he had served us with distinction
7:13 it all makes sense why Gerrard gave Owen a slight dig at him now
The pamphlet intermission 😂 Funny as fuck nearly everything to do with Owen is gold.
The helicopter bit is legit comedy haha
Owen made his debut the season after I first got into football. He was my favourite player back then. He's made some mistakes but I don't really hate him.
Yeah I'm the same, he's just a bit odd
Going to united was unforgiveable but Ill never forget him scoring a late winner v Chelsea right in front of me at Anfield.
it hurt you more knowing that united gave him the one thing you never could
Brilliant. Steve Maccananumumumumm next?
Ohhh not a bad idea
@@andycantwellor as Sam Smith calls him...Steve McThem-a-them 👀😂
cheers. Appreciate your content.
@@Mattliverpoolfc 😂😂😂
@@argyros333 Thank you!
This is gonna sound so petty but getting into football properly around 1993, I was 9yrs old and Robbie Fowler was everything to me and over time I felt like the shine was off him when Owen burst onto the scene and made it that it was a matter of time before Fowler went…which did happen and I put it down to Owen, I think that was the start of my hatred for the man! The fact that he said every year since he left Liverpool before he signed for Utd he was trying to come back is bollocks and a way of making himself feel better for leaving us!
Yeah all my jerseys as a kid had Fowler 23 (or 9) on the back. Owen used to be quite public about his preference to play alongside Heskey too, although I understand that one, but still didnt help him overall.
That isn't necessarily true. Carragher and Gerrard said in their autobiographies that whenever he met up with them for England after coming back from Spain he was pestering them about coming back to Liverpool. I don't like that he joined utd and they got him on a free transfer but Liverpool missed the boat when it came to getting him and it's questionable that they ever wanted to board it. His injury record may have been a factor but they could have done worse than bring him back. Him and Torres might have forged a good partnership in attack.
Ive always thought 5 or 7 minute snippet videos of historical players and their achievements at Liverpool, in a profiling fashion, would be an entertaining way of learning or reinforcing our history, legend and romance.... but I'm not arsed to start a YT channel.😂
Haha good idea, ive a few in mind!
He became a great chopper pilot in dubai.
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on Roy Evans team in mid 90s? Would they have won the league under a different manager? Or players weren't good enough? Or just couldn't get the players needed to compete?
Or just do a video on Robbie Fowler and I'll watch that
There's a book about Liverpool's decline in 90s and what happened which I've been meaning to read but you can do a topic on that also?
@@hughmccarthy yeah some great idea there, I have such fond memories of the mid 90s team as a kid, will definitely do more on that. The Evans idea is an interesting one!
Loved the boy we had, apathetic to the man he became...
Sad but true...
Great video! Liverpool cult heroes could be a decent one? The likes of Ragnar Klavan, Dudek, Gary Mac, Litmanen, Sinama Pongolle, etc.. would make for some interesting commentary in their own unique ways. Houllier in particular had a habit for mental signings. Origi deserves his own episode for sure.
Thanks! Yeah would love to do one on the one hit wonders. And an origi one for sure!
I wouldn't be a liverpool fan if not for Owen. My family were not into football but did watch international. The first game I remember was Eng 5 Ger 0 and after than I knew I wamtes to support the team Owen played for. Mever changed my allegiance though.
You should make a whole video about this. Can add Sterling to the list, Bobby Duncan, El-Hadji Diouf, Suaréz, Coutinho.
Yeah might start a little series
@@andycantwell There is enough people to choose at least. Looking forward to your next video. Hope you are doing well 👍
@@TottoHolm thanks mate!
Most Liverpool fans will always love Suarez after his last season tbf
A massively underestimated piece of 'Owenacular' is his advert for Land Rover. Check that and tell me that this man knows anything of normal people and their ways...
Joining untied was indeed the cardinal sin though, yeah....
No I havent seen this! Brilliant I'll check it out. He's kind of like an Alien that has seen humans from a distance, but doesn't quite understand 😂
a vid about the liverpool "GREATS" who would not get into the first team today
Might be worth doing a similar video on Torres
Yeah would enjoy doing one on him!
I remember the infamous pamphlet but I'd never heard about it being a whopping 32 pages. Imagine, 32 whole pages about how wonderful Michael Owen is!
My stance on Owen softened after I heard him in conversation with Jamie Carragher on a podcast (Greatest Game, I think it was called). But it's softened into ambivalence. I just don't care about him any more.
Yeah I heard that myself, just kind of felt bad for him listening to it! Would love if that podcast came back though it was great
Going to the archenemy is definitely NO,NO. I would rather him going to Saudi(maybe not then but he would if he is playing now)
Another story is that he used to rock up to LFC academy training in an Everton kit
No way 😂
Tbh..my hate for Owen reignited when I kept hearing his daughter in Love Island....talking about their damn horses and stables.......😒
That Dubai footage is so funny lmao
It's actual comedy genius
As a United fan I love Paul ince
He takes no sh!t too, got to respect that!
@@andycantwell exactly and he was quality for united he might have played for Liverpool but so what it doesn’t undo what he did for united.
After 40+ years a supporter for me the answer is still simple.......MAN UTD
Liverpool fans dont dislike owen they just dont put him in the same idol cataory people would assume due to his talent and stature in the game would suggest considering it all started with liverpool. But it didnt his iconic moments are in a white shirt not a red shirt. This is why fans loved robbie and supported owen. I dont buy into owen prioritising england but the argentina goal and germany hatrick are his moments and we just associate him with england. Again he always wanted a return to liverpool and there was a clause in his newcastle contract about a return every summer window.
We cannot overlook his joining united i think aside from banter not many can hold this against him liverpool had multiple chances to bring him back. United were the only club to take the risk and it psid off for them.
Andy. Could you do a piece on Xabi Alonso? Fucking legend
That dubai advert my god, he's supposed to be in a plane but it acts like a helicopter. Perfect advert for Owen I think, spectacularly inconsistent.
It's almost perfect 😂
He broke my 4 year old heart so fuck him haha. My earliest Liverpool memories are of me getting an away shirt with his name on the back. Then when I was around 10 years old he moves to Utd, at a time in which 3/4 of my mates were Utd supporters. For some of us, it can be hard to forgive. Seeing that goal (and celebration) against City at the 137th minute of Fergie Time or whatever it was definitely soured me on him forever lol.
Signed for United. End of.
I think 1 of the biggest insults to liverpool is he now an ambassador to the club.he ahould be nowhere near the club
Yeah, he should not have joined UTD. However, let's not forget the good memories, Like the 2001 FA Cup Final. We were being outplayed and losing to Arsenal, until up stepped Owen with 2 goals in the last ten minutes. l remember the headlines the next day. "He did it all on his Owen."
He was a fantastic player, amazing.
Joined Utd so can’t stand him
Didnt Owen say he'd never drank tea or coffee before?
Ive heard the 5 film thing before..
The 13 yr old keeper almost got to his shots though to be fair
But celebrating afterwards...geez..reminds me of Competitive Dad from The Fast Show..!!
His pace was frightening as a youngster but the injuries just killed his career.
Still got 40 goals for England..
Never would call him a liverpool legend myself..
His commentary is meh...
"Now Toby, I'm going to shoot as hard as I can" 😂😂
Capello managed England in the 2010 World Cup
"Michael realised he was unhappy living abroad"....."Let's go to see my house in Dubai Sports City; my favourite place"
Really enjoyed that, thanks! I guess like many LFC fans, my biggest complaint is Man Utd related, but that's just the symptom; he's a mercenary who seems desperate for approval from anywhere, regardless of burning bridges or looking like a bit of a tit. Never knew about the brochure though.. googled it and now I can't unsee it 🤣
Glad you enjoyed it man! Yeah thats it with Owen, and i honestly didnt do the brochure justice, its brilliant!
I've been saying that over 7 years. Too selfish. Look what he disgraced himself pretending to be injured.
He was a brilliant striker, but no Fowler. He didn't love the club and was a mercenary.
I know iam not a liverpool fan but if i was i would not hate Michael owen of going to united . Why ? well no 1 he tried comeing back but is injures he had during the 06 world cup that made him lost his incredible speed, and Rafeal thinks his a has been now, so michael had no where to go so Man united took him in ,its not like he went to united from Liverpool.so his he a Liverpool legend hell yeah because as a non Liverpool fan and England fan i always enjoy him playing even how fast he was with the ball.
MUST be Diouf next.. please.
My god what a field day that'd be
We loved it what Owen did. Not all LFC fans don't like him. It's the fact Rafa let Ferguson take him when he would have crawled back to Anfield after NUFC. But Rafa said No. ❤
for me reason no2 says it all
I like him
Have some respect for him but I think Benitez broke him and even Gerrard said Benitez tried to sell him... the difference being Gerrard stayed ... Owen jumped ship... and let’s face it his a terrible pundit
He left the summer that Benitez arrived so a bit harsh to blame Rafa. I think the only time that Liverpool were really in for him again was when he left Real, after that it was pretty clear that he wasn't capable of reaching his former heights.
@@garethmann6499 did he. Why do I think he played for one season and then left? I will believe you because I don’t think him really playing for Pool under Benitez
Good job he didn’t play at top of that building, he would of got injured. Where’s his accent from?
Have you also heard that Owen dislikes films and has never even watched one? ... like ????
Haha even better, he's watched 5 last time I checked... Heat, Jurassic park, ghost, forest gump, and Cool Runnings 😂😂
@@andycantwell Oh, I ballsed that then aha. But still, what a peculiar bloke Owen is 😂
@@dwj8620it's almost funnier that Cool Runnings made the cut
I wouldn't call him 'peculiar' for not wanting to suck up Hollywood's woke bullshit
Interesting 'skeleton in Liverpool's cupboard' discussion. All the reasons cited do hold up. I always felt it was mainly 2 things. 1) He was overused at a very young age and his injuries probably wrecked what should have been a much longer and happy career, in meant that he was rushed around the football world far to quickly, effectively 'whistle stopping' without securing a legacy beyond his Liverpool days, this kind of shaped his personality. 2) I don't think Micheal Owen has really loved football, beyond being a job, (a surprising number of footballers have this attitude) He never made a secret of his first love of horse racing/horses, one wonders if he could have been a world class jockey instead?. Certainly the right stature.
I actually agree with both of those points and I wish I'd thought of them while recording 😂
Where are you man????
Hard to get the time! Got a short one coming on the meme-ification of steven gerrard 😁
He played for man u.
He was very good as a player for Liverpool, but as a pundit he's terrible! Alan Hansen he is not!
9:54 "cool" lol
It was well before the United signing, that he started to get bad mouthed - or even the Newcastle signing. His first choice was to return to Liverpool, but Liverpool did not want him.
He let his contract run down and went to Real. That was it. ‘He’s no Red’ ‘If he doesn’t love us, then we don’t love him’
As far as being a twat goes, many many players are twats off the field. Lets be honest, football players are overpaid over hyped arrogant twats. They also happen to be very clever footballers and THAT is why we pay our hard earned money to WATCH.
He played for united . You can't do that , I personally don't have issues with Owen he was the very best striker . but Liverpool supporters from Liverpool will be much different from my view.
The answer in the most polite way: hes a fokin snake
One EVERTON fan and THEN he joined man utd lol Liverpool one champion league season after KNOB HEAD left lollol
Ask a scouser. Simple. However, Liverpool fans aren't just scousers anymore.
His punditry is horrific too, he says nothing insightful and honestly it just feels like some idiot next to you is saying everything you're already seeing with your eyes, it gets annoying after 10 minutes. Same with Mcmanaman, some of these guys are stealing a wage.
Why Do Liverpool Fans Dislike Michael Owen? .... he went to Manchester United ......
I’m sorry but the injury prone thing was almost purely genetic. Manchester United bought a 18 year old that they played as regularly, and he was not an injury prone player, his career didn’t last as long as it could have but that was not due to injuries. Michael Owen was just one of the many cases of great footballers that were injury prone and could never reach their full potential. Fuck all to do with management, dude was made of glass, people are born that way.
For me ill skip to the last one 🤬 man utd you 🤬😂🤬😡🤯🤣🤬😂🤔🤬🤬🤬🤬 so there's that😁👍,keep them coming AC.
And now he’s doing that stupid VAR show with Howard Webb. Unbelievable
He's a benign narcissist and not very bright, although his striker-related punditry often isn't bad
Simply put.. he went to United. Fuggem
Simple he went to United
Manc 😅😅. Nah I'm kind of indifferent to tell you the truth , can take or leave him, he just isn't Robbie is he ? He was happy to sit on the manc bench !! Premier League winner!!! Really. Ask him did he believe he earned it ? It obvious what he d be risking with Liverpool fans so what dya expect ??? Ask Utd fans what they think of Ince . Then again That's probably hilarious to them being as he won fuckall with us 😄 🤣 😂.
True he just isn't Robbie 😂
I dont ....dislike.
Bit boring ,
he was just a footballer .
good at goal scoring .
He was , i think..overated .
compared to other strikers of opponents like henry bergkamo , etc....
nothing special
He should have played for Wales….end of story. 👎Y Bradwr Bach.
Bro said win the treble 😭
* A treble 😂
@@andycantwell good man 🤣
'He helped Liverpool win the treble'. Lol 'the treble'.
*A treble 👀
If you include Supercup and Community Shield it was 5 trophies
Wtf is that Dubai bulls*it???😂😂😂😂😂😂
Winning three cups is A treble yes but agreed not THE treble, they did also win Super cup and Community shield so 5 won that year😂
He has the personality of a hard-boiled egg! 🥚
Judas
Who gives a fk, Fowler was better anyway
traitor!!!!!
Michael Owen amazing England striker without the injuries Michael Owen would have the been with out a question of a doubt the England Top scorer till Wayne Rooney.
He's a traitor simple as
When he leave to Madrid i just sad, when he sign for United that's when i'm sure he not my Liverpool legend.