The 2021 Supra is Proof That Toyota is Serious About Its Sports Car Game
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It's not very often when a manufacturer adds nearly 50 more HP to a model just one year on the market later, but that's exactly what @toyotausa did to the 2021 #ToyotaSupra. The company also introduced a new 4-cylinder turbo variant and a much lower price point on it. While the 4-cylinder will dash to 60 in around 5.0 seconds, the new 382 HP #Supra 3.0 will now sprint to 60 in 3.9 seconds and sounds fantastic doing so. #GRSupra #ToyotaGRSupra - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Good morning guys! Sorry for the early morning upload but the driving impressions embargo on the 2021 Toyota Supra is finally over! We wanted to clarify when the pricing embargo will be over and please excuse our mistake, the 3rd and final video will post on 6/17 at 7am EST. Stay tuned for the last piece of the 2021 Supra puzzle! Until then, what do you guys think of the way the Supra 2.0 and Supra 3.0 drives?
I can't wait for my A91 Edition to arrive!
BMW engine
@@emekaiheanacho6971 really? Nobody knew that! Thank you!
@@dannyd7714 lmao
will this come with an M badge?
@13:24 - "I'm gonna kill this in her F'ing Santa Fe" - immediately goes and watches the Santa Fe Redline review.
🤣🤣🤣
*Karening intensifies*
"I hate people."
Also what I often say while driving.
santa fe files law suit for death threats lol
Haha, yeah I hate it when people decide to go 10-20 below the speed limit for no apparent reason.
If you daily drive on the freeway or highway, you will hate people.
I say that EVERY time I drive.
The B was begging to get passed
The Hyundai part got me laughing like crazy. That should be on a t-shirt. 😂
11:35 "I'm looking at you Alex on autos" BURNNN 😂😂
Fots shired
The 2021 Supra is Proof That Toyota is Serious About *Refusing to Offer a Manual*
Facts. I dont understand why make a sports car thats not manual? People want these cars in manual
Sean-E-Boy Ikr, specially since the Z4 is available with a manual, such a dumb decision even if the automatic is good
Tyrel Tolliver actually there getting rid of the manual in the G70 next year because of low sales
@Tyrel Tolliver Not really, their just following the market trends like everyone else. Actually they put together a pretty good car, but you guys just want to whine about the BMW part.
The B58/S55 are great engines, that are easily modifiable just like the 2JZ. The guy made the 1KHP A90 left most of the engine stock.
@@santileonsteinberg1441 Yea, with the 4 banger.
Love your content Redline Reviews, you inspired me to start my own youtube channel.
Thank you for motivation.
As the owner of the 1985 Toyota Supra for 23 years I can say it has been the best GT car out there with the unparalleled reliability. I’d buy the new Supra in a heartbeat regardless of people’s badmouthing.
The difference is that the car you are talking about was all Toyota. The new one is not. BMWs are great but not known for reliability.
Unfortunately, Toyota did a bad job marketing the car. Yes, it may be BMW but with Toyota speced engine which makes it incredible reliability. Closed decked design, oil squirters on the piston, reinforced everything, and made to handle twice the advertised horsepower easily. This is why the B58 will down as their greatest engine BMW has ever created. I would never purchase a BMW due to their reliability. This is the exception.
No man has ever told me he left me with blue balls until now.
Just got my 2021 3.0, I’ve owned dozens of sports cars, this is by far the most well rounded vehicle I’ve ever owned, period. And it’s putting down 388 to the pavement stock not 382 at the crank.
any regrets? Trying to decide between this or a 2018 BMW M2.
If it is putting down 388 at the pavement then it probably has 450 HP at the crank. Was Toyota Dyno broke or is this a embargo thing?
@@ontherunjg I think since it is a BMW motor and they usually under rate their numbers I think that is why people are seeing the numbers they are reporting.
The 90s were the best years of JDM.
Unless the 4banger is under 40k, I dont see why you would buy a 4 banger if its nearly 45-50k.
*stares in STI S209 & Civic type R*
@@FXIIBeaver civic type Rs can be had under 40k, tge s209 is killed with dealer markups
If I got a Supra, 4 or 6 cylinder, I’d get it very lightly optioned. I don’t ever see myself needing adaptive cruise control in a Supra. I’ll save that for the crossover I drive every day. My ideal Supra would be a base 6-cylinder for just under 50k
Most modern 4 bangers will out perform a traditional 6 banger. Not sure why you measure value based on the number of cylinders.
@@garrettbentz9525 Just get a mkiv supra. You could probably find a clean turbo manual mkiv for about 50, probably less.
The biggest problem for the 4-cyl is going to be barely used 2020 Supra 3.0’s which are now available for mid to upper $40’s all day long with under 1,000 miles.
Great review!
13:23 honey when I tell you I almost rolled out of my bed laughing way to damn hard at that 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Example of what happens when you rush a manufacturer. To satisfy, they give you "some thing" while working on "the thing". Moral: Just wait.
The changes are subtle. The hp bump is probably due to emissions. Toyota wanted to make sure they could release the supra to the world. Europe has banned the b58 382hp version both in the z4 and supra. They still get the 335hp from the 2020 model.
13:24 Lol is Soyfan usually this sassy or quarantine got him a bit stir crazy 😂
Every man and his dog posted Supra reviews today, given all those choices I still picked you as you always provide a solid review. LOL on the dates for the pricing think you said ,March 17 and May 17th looks like June is the month. If the 4 cylinder pricing is aggressive enough that might make the difference for me between the two.
Both Supras sound great
Rare to find any turbo that sounds worth a damn, but this one makes the right sounds
That six cylinder sounds so nice
I want that 3.0!😍
13:25 is definitely me. Everyday 💀
Where i live everyone is either doing 30 in a 40 or 60 in a 40 but absolutely no one does the actual speed limit.
Was gonna sleep, but I waited until my video uploaded, then saw this. My sleep and video can wait 👍
Good and honest review, appreciate that, very nice vehicle, getting my first Toyota next week, a new R4P but nice the see the fastest Toyota but I'll settle for the 2nd fastest ;-)
The newer the video the tighter the jeans
Long live Redline Reviews
They say it makes 382 hp, is that the actual rating or not. I wouldnt be surprised if this was a more accurate rating than before and it's more like a 20 to 25 hp jump in power in actual numbers.
Finally release to my blue🔮, thanks Sofyan🤣.6cyl is the way to go period.
That Santa Fe 😂😂🤣
The 2 liter in the Supra 2.0 is the BMW B48. As with all turbocharged BMW engines from the past decade, the advertised horsepower and torque are approximately what it makes at the wheels. True crank horsepower is 290ish. The 2021 Supra 3.0 makes well over 400 horsepower at the crank, 380ish at the rear wheels.
13:24 Put his remark in a shirt and I bet you'll sell it like crazy. Put me on pre-order!
That Cooper JCW pop pop pop is still in this engine. good shit.
All the fanboys that trash the A90 Supra are most likely under 21 and drive their parents 10 year old Honda CRV. The Supra is a brilliant sports car! It’s already fast stock, easily tuneable, balanced, looks great and sounds great. Yes, Toyota should offer it in a manual but that may still happen in the coming years. The A90 was already a win for Toyota and now with the 2021 engine upgrades it’s an even bigger W. I 100% will be cross shopping the 2021 3.0 Supra with a M2 Comp and a used 981 Cayman S!
The S58 will always be an M exclusive engine but a lightweight one would pretty cool
Hello, exellent video, whats ur opinion,? Between Mazda mx5 or Toyota 4 cil?
Wich one do u prefer??
So surreal seeing you drive on roads daily. Do you live in the PWC area?
Toyota: New $60k 2021 Supra!!
Everyone in 2020 Broke AF: $2.50 in chq account. 🤣💩
Lol it’s not going to be 60k that’s base c8 money, it’ll be the same as the 2020 maybe even a tiny bit cheaper cause these cars aren’t selling well. 2020s new can be had for 49k from some dealers desperate to get rid of them.
The 2020 supras were much more expensive than that with the dealer mark up
Great video
Haha hands down you give the best reviews!! You give us real world reviews!! I didn't like the the Toyota Supra but now because of your reviews it seems to be a good performance bargain!!
driving like that in NOVA.. lol I had so many speeding tickets there. Now i live in SoCal.. 0 tickets
Love the Symphony !!!!!❤💪👍
finally being rewarded for my terrible sleep schedule 😭😍
Every time I try to use the one-touch-three-blink feature when changing lanes, my parents would yell at me.
I predict that within 24 months, Toyota will offer an “all-trac Supra”.
😂😂
Want to put some money on that?
My frs has limited slip and manual. That should definitely come standard on the 2.0 supra. I'll wait for the GR86
appreciate this car while you can. even if it is a BMW because cars like this will not exist soon. nobody's buying sports cars and everything is going electric
Wish I was born in the 80’s so I could enjoy all the cars!
That day is a long time away.
Not sure who you are talking about....literally everyone I know is in a camaro, mustang, or challenger....plenty of people still buying them
You know what? It is still a freaking BMW!!!
@@hunyango2k bullshit , take example of fighter jets, a lot of them have import engines but other things make a lot diffrence hence aclling it a bmw is bullshit (edit:grammar)
At 13:24 that had me dying 🤣
It seems the six port exhaust manifold gives the 2021 Supra nicer growl compared to the 2 port on the 2020 model.
I could definitely hear a difference myself...its crisper and has a snarl and certainly louder than previous...
Great engine! Same BMW B58 in my M40i.
March 17th? A whole year for pricing?
Cool shades.
A 6cyl Supra starts at $49k which is similar to an M240i and a 230i starts at $35k which is my guess on how much the 4cyl Supra would cost. $40k max.
Hey man. Which is your favorite between the a90 and the fk8r?
Agree with everything but needs a 3 pedal option
Take a good look they will be in the shop soon.
Did you drive it with the windows down ? I have seen a few reviews that said the wind buffeting was so bad you couldn't have them down.
13:24 Welcome to my commute on New England back roads every morning.
Did they fix the wind buffering with the windows down?
The noise of the V6 is amazing.
I6 not V6
22city 30hwy for this level of power and performance..... insane
13:25 As a DMV resident, agreed. I really hate how anti car-enthusiast my hometown really is
Its because they are poor broke bitter bums
@Tyrel Tolliver you just hit the nail on the head. Especially the lifted trucks going to the mall. That shit always makes me die a little inside. Both laughing and literally
I can't believe you live at the DMV smh
From the DMV too. See a lifted truck is depressing
Dude the window test
Wonderful review! I love the exhaust test, guys LOL. So awesome! This is just such a sexy sports car. Fantastic. ;)
that santa fe is probably my mom..
Would you say the 4cl is a competitor to the Type R? Or is that more of a SI/GTI competitor?
The 2020 always had 380 HP on the Dino. BMW had clearly advised Toyota to lower their numbers so that it doesn’t effect their Z4 sales
great video loved the part where you said you wanted to kill that lady & hate people lmao keep up the awesome work :)
Calm down brother she was in a Santa fe. Great video as usual.
Its people like you who drive 35 in a 45 and stop for no reason when there's nothing in front of you
My dad is thinking of buying one and he’s also thinking of leasing a Yukon Denali and buying the Supra
Hey can you tell me...where are you driving at start of video?
That drone!
Did it gain more power or are they publishing the true power from last year.
Car and Driver dyno'd both. The increase was commensurate with the new rating. Of course, both outperformed their "crank" rating and the wheels.
The former.
If you were to include the drivetrain losses of around 10% in the 2020 Supra after putting it on the dyno, you would have approximately 385-410 horsepower at the crank with the wheel numbers ranging from 340-382 horsepower depending on the source you look at.
As for the 2021 Supra, Car and Driver released a video today of them putting the Supra on the dyno, and it made ~390 horsepower to the wheels. However, Car and Driver indirectly admitted there is some room for improvement especially with how they ran through the power and torque band when it was going through dyno testing, so I'd imagine it'd be considerably higher than 390. If you were to include the drivetrain loss of ~10% in the 2021 Supra after putting it on the dyno, you would have approximately 430-450 horsepower to the crankshaft.
To put all of these numbers into context, there has been constant findings that Z4 makes 420-440 at the wheels, which shows that there's a difference with the Supra's numbers and in my opinion, this makes the Supra's numbers more impressive especially given the fact that the Supra has a lower compression ratio than the Z4, but on the other hand, the Supra is actually fitted with more boost from the turbocharger than the Z4, so the Supra has way more high end power past 5-6k RPM.
All in all, Toyota did not just change the power number to it's correct rating, that's just a false narrative that Supra haters want to keep spreading because they're sad excuses of human beings. In fact, these findings PROVE that Toyota actually did their own development work on the engine and it's not just a copy of the Z4. It never was.
Navid F I think 420 sounds about right as its 1 sec quicker 0-60 than the 2jz
Is the 3L quieter inside in standard mode? This would be too loud for touring IMO.
I’m thinking of upgrading from a manual 370z with a few mods to a new Supra. Do you recommend the new 4cyl or 2020/2021 6cyl model?
It's not even close. Get a 2020 6 cyl. The sound and torque on it is amazing.
I like the wheels on the 2.0
its good they have more choices
1:33 I’m sure you meant May 17
Dretsel June 17th 😂
@@theredline geez were all over the place haha
Redline Reviews great review nonetheless 👍🏽
Any chance it will eventually get Toyota interior bits and instrumentation?
Waiting eagerly for the new GR 86.
With the new 2.4 and the same weight or within 50KG should be a ripper.
The next best thing for a dad like me is the BMW M340i RWD without all the options other than black wheels🤗. Plus, they lease out well.
Nice shades
the fake engine noise in the 2.0t reminds me of the lexus UX
That is someone's mom or grandma in front of you. I know its rough when they go below the limit, but calling them bad names doesn't help. Love the sound of that 6.
Great enthusiasm with this review. The difference between the 4 and the 6 are well represented here. But, a ? How would you enjoy such cars if you were deaf? Still the joi d' vivre enthusiasm for driving?
Does it have a carbon fiber trunk like the prius prime
Wish these came in a targa top!
Are all the vents still fake?
Dose Toyota fix the buffeting problem for 2021?
Made two variations like in the 90s Supra: Twin turbo and NA.
I’m ready 2021 6 cylinder for me
What about the wind buffeting with windows down?
Has anyone heard if the 2021 fixed the buffeting issue with the windows down?
Still more reliable than Honda's turbo L15 lol.
Yeah getting the Type R is worth it👍
@LEGIT.PLAYZZ My Civic has the non turbo K20. Great engine, but may be too slow for some people.
@@asdfghjqwertyu1858 have the K24. I want more all the time. It's fun, don't get me wrong. But it could be better. Not going to get the 1.5 though, that's for sure.
Wouldn't doubt it considering the amount of complaints I have heard.
Honda The Power Of Dreams that’s a bmw engine on a bmw chassis and with bmw tech.
M340i the 4 Door Supra. Much more usable and fun to daily drive while you can still enjoy some track time. Change the RFT to Non RFT Michellin PS 4S and you can have a blast.
Without a manual, it’s not an enticing replacement for the 86. Only the next gen 86 is.
Is the 4 cylinders has corolla engine?
I feel like for a 4 cylinder car at the end of the day it sounds really good
It’s rare to get those crackles and pops from a 4 cylinder engine
5:08 0-60 from a stop for those who are interested
As a daily, would you choose this supra or the Lexus IS500?
Both
kindly do a comparison - Supra 3.0 2021 vs Corvette C8 vs Caymen GTS
Why. The Cayman is 30k more.
I bought the 2020 model instead knowing I only drive the car to work during good weather and as a weekend car. It’s not like I take the car to the track and race. Who’ll complain for getting the car at $49K for the 3.0 Premium at 5 miles on the tach with carbon fiber mirror caps, wheel lock and cargo mat included?