Exactly…I thought these competitions vetted these people. I know this is no gi but if you have a decent background in wrestling u should have to compete at the blue belt level. You can’t roll in there with cauliflower ears and roll with white belts 😂
Tbh, I didn't realize it was a thing for decent wrestlers to compete in the expert division even if they're a white belt. My first tourney I did the beginner level
@@alotafhindi7485 depends I’ve seen obvious wrestlers in novice divisions but then I was told since I have a track wrestling profile and I have matches on flowrestling that I had to do intermediate but even still there’s been guys in intermediate that I’ve dominated with pure wrestling and a good ankle lock
Pure Wrestlers that attain bjj knowledge are the deadliest grapplers. Especially in an actual fight or mma. Brutal combo. Wrestling is nearly useless once you already know bjj. But if your foundation is wrestling… the addition of bjj is lethal. I was rolling purples as soon as I learned a few basic submissions in my first two weeks! Personal experience I’m sure others are different but I hear mostly the same from others
Wrestling is never useless! It's literally the best base a person can have. But also, even if you start out learning BJJ and then transition to learning wrestling, you'll still gain very valuable knowledge and a skill set that will allow you to be so much more dominating against your opponents. Having a wrestling background and learning BJJ or having a BJJ background and learning wrestling, either way will allow you to become a very dangerous and dominant grappler
@@thunderkatz4219 no discipline? bro wrestlers are the toughest athletes ever. Mentally and physically draining. You can also argue that bjj doesn’t train against kicks either, or boxing, or any grappling sport. You tripping my g.
Literally all of the best fighters in MMA history from K1 to the UFC to Pride, you name it, almost every single long standing champion has been a wrestler. From GSP, to Rampage, Nurmagomedov, Cormier, Jones, You name it. Aside from literally a handful of guys all the most dominant fighters have been Wrestlers. Royce Gracie ran through guys when MMA first started, yeah, but he got absolutely destroyed by Sakuraba and Hughes, two wrestlers.
Completely agree, I’m not even a wrestler myself but when I grapple I always think position over submission which gives most jitz guys a hard time, pretty sure most wrestlers have that mentality
As a jiu jitsu guy this was basically my first few experiences against wrestlers. They're strong, athletic and powerful AF - I think both sports can learn a lot from each other
We had a white belt who was top 10 in state for wrestling. We knew he was a tank in training and would most likely win but we had to put him in white belt division to really see how he was technique wise
Regardless of what you think is better you can’t argue that wrestlers don’t come in with a mindset and intensity that a lot of bjj guys are unprepared for until they experience it I wrestle and I might get submitted but were both gonna be gassed by the end of it
Agree. When you have the offense of a wrestler and the defense of BJJ. You’re going to be a beast in the ground. BJJ love to be on their back while wrestlers love to be on top. Plus having the aggressiveness of a wrestler and cool calm collected of BJJ is mental warfare.
Funny cuz I heel hook a d1 wrestler in 10 seconds my last comp at naga. Wrestlers are easy to predict and less technical. If ur a good jiu jitsu guy that actually lifts you should win
Those are clearly beginning bjj students. The wrestlers are not beginners. As a bjj student years ago we would have open mat session. I was a one year bjj student and fought a Maryland UNIVERSITY junior wrestler. It was intense. But I rear naked choked him into submission. I’ll admit he pushed me to the limit. He was like captain America. But I got him. I’ll take a great bjj over a great wrestler any day.
@@TCErnestowatch Royce Gracie vs ken shamrock 2 ( ufc 5 , 1995 ) . But I believe by then ken shamrock wasn’t a pure wrestler and had some bjj experience , but I’m not sure though.
@@Jordanthecool7eah except Ken lost the fight and weighed 40 pounds more than Royce during their first fight. I'm not joking, Royce's official weight for the event was 180 lbs Ken weighed in at 220 because it was an open weight tournament. The second fight was a case of more or less the same because it was still an open weight tournament.
as a wrestler who did juijitsu...a good blue to purple will put you in your place.. they are out there .and know many subs and chokes. martial arts is real it hurts and can leave you broken..but learn and open your mind.just a old highschool wrestling champ..and.bluebelt
Ambos son excelentes la fotaleza del BJJ es la sumision en el suelo pero llevar al oponente al suelo es mas dificil para BBJ, el westling lo considero lo contrario su fuerte es tirar al oponente pero es menos practico someter a tu oponente al suelo, si ambos se complementan tenemos a una bestia de adversario
I originally started as a high school wrestler. No I’m a brown belt in bJJ At the end of the day, we are all grapplers. No need to say which one is better grappling is an art. We can learn from every discipline, whether it be judo, wrestling, or catch wrestling you name it Grappling is grappling
My first naga I fought a guy like this in the 6 months and under division and he had double cauliflower ears 💀💀💀 I got choked out pretty quickly lol no way you get two cauliflower ears in 6 months training
I got double cauliflower it's funny because I started with jiu jitsu and never had it and then by the beginning of my 2nd wrestling season for my high-school I had it on both ears 😂
It should say, “wrestler vs white belts” hahaha… I wanna see him doing that to a BJJ practitioner who has the same amount of time that he has in wrestling… he’s just a bully 🤷🏼♂️
As a wrestler myself, this type of wrestler makes the rest of us look bad. Aggression is good, but this kinda dude always trying to stick his nuts out even in drills for the sake of ego. Start injuring people and nobody wants to work with you, unless they're the same type cool with injuring in training and sparring
Am I the only one a little confused with why they separate grappling into so many different disciplines? Like imagine if you combined judo, wrestling, and jiujitsu. If there's something idk about these styles that would make it hard to combine them someone tell me.
Rule set differences for some, also specific specialties they each focus on within grappling that over time makes them look and act noticeably different
I seen this all the time in NAGA a college wrestler or elite HS wrestler who learned some basic defense from submission n enters novice and begginer level which are two (2) different levels 1. Begginer 2. Novice n they are white belts or orange belts no blue belts
if you are good in bjj you should win against wrestler due to subs of your back, work smarter and be dominant in gaurd. Not a single one from what we saw turn the right way after Throw, suprised by the wrestler maybe but i think not so advanced, 2 or 3 competition max.
Insta - Trikz_2k
That’s a decent wrestler competing in a beginners level BJJ competition.
Exactly…I thought these competitions vetted these people. I know this is no gi but if you have a decent background in wrestling u should have to compete at the blue belt level. You can’t roll in there with cauliflower ears and roll with white belts 😂
Tbh, I didn't realize it was a thing for decent wrestlers to compete in the expert division even if they're a white belt. My first tourney I did the beginner level
@@chopstyx141 some tournaments will put them against blue belts.
bro hes brown belt
@@alotafhindi7485 depends I’ve seen obvious wrestlers in novice divisions but then I was told since I have a track wrestling profile and I have matches on flowrestling that I had to do intermediate but even still there’s been guys in intermediate that I’ve dominated with pure wrestling and a good ankle lock
Guy with 5+ years grappling experience beats guys with less than 2 years grappling experience. Who would have thought
Probably in a white belt division also 😅
White belt division, more like less than 6 months experience for most. The most veteran would be under a year in that division.
Wrestling will always beat BJJ.
@@FentanylPopsicleoh?
Gordon Ryan vs Bo Nickel. Look that up
@@Hector-zv4tw literally every pro MMA fighter
“Ya Im a white belt”
In jiujitsu. Jiujitsy isnt wrestling
as a blue belt..they gat harder
I love sparring with wrestlers. They really bring on the intensity. Really helped me in my last mma fight when I went to the wrestling classes. ☝🏽
Where can I find your mma fight bro wanna watch it
@Realest_Requiem it didn't happen
@Mr__Puff his username is Musashi. It definitely happened. You don't know who Musashi is so you'll google it and act like you know. Stop hating.
@@brodysievers5163 how about you stop hating on him?
Pure Wrestlers that attain bjj knowledge are the deadliest grapplers. Especially in an actual fight or mma. Brutal combo. Wrestling is nearly useless once you already know bjj. But if your foundation is wrestling… the addition of bjj is lethal. I was rolling purples as soon as I learned a few basic submissions in my first two weeks! Personal experience I’m sure others are different but I hear mostly the same from others
Wrestling is never useless! It's literally the best base a person can have. But also, even if you start out learning BJJ and then transition to learning wrestling, you'll still gain very valuable knowledge and a skill set that will allow you to be so much more dominating against your opponents. Having a wrestling background and learning BJJ or having a BJJ background and learning wrestling, either way will allow you to become a very dangerous and dominant grappler
@@kickinwinghotboi883 the problem with wrestling is that from my experience it’s that they have no discipline and also how do they train against kicks
@@thunderkatz4219 no discipline? bro wrestlers are the toughest athletes ever. Mentally and physically draining. You can also argue that bjj doesn’t train against kicks either, or boxing, or any grappling sport. You tripping my g.
Literally all of the best fighters in MMA history from K1 to the UFC to Pride, you name it, almost every single long standing champion has been a wrestler. From GSP, to Rampage, Nurmagomedov, Cormier, Jones, You name it. Aside from literally a handful of guys all the most dominant fighters have been Wrestlers. Royce Gracie ran through guys when MMA first started, yeah, but he got absolutely destroyed by Sakuraba and Hughes, two wrestlers.
Completely agree, I’m not even a wrestler myself but when I grapple I always think position over submission which gives most jitz guys a hard time, pretty sure most wrestlers have that mentality
Bro going in there with caulis on caulis entering a beginner competition as a bjj guy,meanwhile he's a bloody division one college wrestler😂
This comment just gave me a major ego boost 😂😂
A wrestler that knows jiu jitsu is a beast
Add some judo throws/sweeps
I recommend to learn some striking too,like Muay Thai + bjj or something like that
Best combination: Muay Thai + Judo + Wrestling + BJJ + Taekwondo + Boxing?
Vice versa
@@Nonone300 lol u dont need taekwondo once u know muay thai .... Muay thai + boxing the only answer
Bjj is the art of not hurting your opponent until wrestling came in...
Which one is the BJJ guy
except for half the submissions are designed to hurt your opponent lmao
@@legopopculture8635 everyone getting thrown around and ragdolled basically 😂
You know bjj submissions are designed to break bones right 😂
You have no idea what your talking about
I’ve trained BJJ for 6 years. You need to wrestle as well!!!!! Period !
Our gym has wrestling as part of our training. Agreed it's absolutely necessary
Im learning bjj and submission wrestling at the same time next to my mma classes
I agree most definitely, wrestling and jujitsu are both part of grappling you’re better off knowing both over only knowing one
Nice of the D1 guy to make it out for the white belt tournament. 😂
Nope this guy was jv in HS he didn't go to a divisional school for sure
As a wrestler, the first shot looked like it welcomed a guillotine
Yeah, that's what most BJJ guys train for against wrestlers.
As a jiu jitsu guy this was basically my first few experiences against wrestlers. They're strong, athletic and powerful AF - I think both sports can learn a lot from each other
There was reason the Gracie's didn't want to compete with wrestlers when they presented their Brazilian JJ to the world.
We had a white belt who was top 10 in state for wrestling. We knew he was a tank in training and would most likely win but we had to put him in white belt division to really see how he was technique wise
Hmmm. Experienced wrestlers with plenty of mat time vs white belts…Interesting.
Who is wrestler?
The wrestler said "fuck your sandbagging rules" 😂
the lesson here is...be a hybrid cross train your grappling arts ive done judo bjj and wrestling and it makes a big difference
The actual lesson here is make sure you put your student in the right division. This is a clear mismatch against a white belt.
I saw a really good wrestler who's been grappling for a long time beat up a bunch of white belts with few months worth of experience
Regardless of what you think is better you can’t argue that wrestlers don’t come in with a mindset and intensity that a lot of bjj guys are unprepared for until they experience it I wrestle and I might get submitted but were both gonna be gassed by the end of it
Agree. When you have the offense of a wrestler and the defense of BJJ. You’re going to be a beast in the ground. BJJ love to be on their back while wrestlers love to be on top. Plus having the aggressiveness of a wrestler and cool calm collected of BJJ is mental warfare.
Every experienced bjj guys know that wrestlers are tough opponents
I saw absolutely zero BJJ in this clip.
it's okay bc it's funny!
Yeah.. a beginner tourney🤣 clearly an experienced wrestler, join blue or purple then I’ll give you some props 🤝
" the Gracie hunter" the 🐐
Wrestling>>>>
These Bluds sprawl game is sheet metal 😂
I love your energy And I love rolling with good wrestler thanks to you we learn a lot thanks to you guys
😁😁
awesome stuff, he set em down softly
Something about this doesn’t seem fair😂
Funny cuz I heel hook a d1 wrestler in 10 seconds my last comp at naga. Wrestlers are easy to predict and less technical. If ur a good jiu jitsu guy that actually lifts you should win
He made his opponents look like sparring partners
A lot of great wresling! But dont forget you finished with Jiu Jitsu. All grappling arts NEED eachother
Dude looks and wrestles like a 5 hour energy
This is why I use wrestling with my jits. Dominance baby
Poor kid joined his first competition, probably paid enough for it too, just to face insecure long-time wrestler boosting his ego in a wrong bracket.
Those are clearly beginning bjj students. The wrestlers are not beginners. As a bjj student years ago we would have open mat session. I was a one year bjj student and fought a Maryland UNIVERSITY junior wrestler. It was intense. But I rear naked choked him into submission. I’ll admit he pushed me to the limit. He was like captain America. But I got him. I’ll take a great bjj over a great wrestler any day.
Was it win by pin or sub, or just sub, please? 😊
Nahh if it was a real life street fight w striking-- I bet on the wrestler any day
Wrestlers proved they were most effective against the Brazilians n the early days of UFC.
have any video reference?
@@TCErnestowatch Royce Gracie vs ken shamrock 2 ( ufc 5 , 1995 ) . But I believe by then ken shamrock wasn’t a pure wrestler and had some bjj experience , but I’m not sure though.
@@Jordanthecool7eah except Ken lost the fight and weighed 40 pounds more than Royce during their first fight.
I'm not joking, Royce's official weight for the event was 180 lbs Ken weighed in at 220 because it was an open weight tournament.
The second fight was a case of more or less the same because it was still an open weight tournament.
No they didn't 😂
Buddy you got a bad memory? Maybe dementia? Bjj has always been king, learn to cope with that
Refreshing not seeing someone butt scoot around the mat
Grappling vs.....Grappling!
This is where the guard pullers come into their own 😂😂😂😂
Thats why i always prefer Catch Wrestling no disrespect to BJJ
I feel bad for that guy getting absolutely smashed
as a wrestler who did juijitsu...a good blue to purple will put you in your place..
they are out there
.and know many subs and chokes.
martial arts is real it hurts and can leave you broken..but learn and open your mind.just a old highschool wrestling champ..and.bluebelt
Big slammer bois 🔥
Wrestlers are more explosive but a bjj will submit
Ok so he's a sandbagger that competed in a beginner jujitsu tourney... happens all the time
Ambos son excelentes la fotaleza del BJJ es la sumision en el suelo pero llevar al oponente al suelo es mas dificil para BBJ, el westling lo considero lo contrario su fuerte es tirar al oponente pero es menos practico someter a tu oponente al suelo, si ambos se complementan tenemos a una bestia de adversario
These are the takedowns that God intended.
Wrestling is far superior to BJJ. That's the reason why the Gracies never faced any catch wrestler in their careers.
Uh yea it looks like you are all taking advantage of blue belts. Ex wrestlers should automatically go to higher belt comp
Note taken: matt returns and suplexing is quite effective.
I originally started as a high school wrestler. No I’m a brown belt in bJJ At the end of the day, we are all grapplers. No need to say which one is better grappling is an art. We can learn from every discipline, whether it be judo, wrestling, or catch wrestling you name it Grappling is grappling
Experienced grappler in a beginner tournament. Well done mate 👏 🙄
My first naga I fought a guy like this in the 6 months and under division and he had double cauliflower ears 💀💀💀 I got choked out pretty quickly lol no way you get two cauliflower ears in 6 months training
RIP
Fr there is definitely lots of cherry pickers in beginners
I got double cauliflower it's funny because I started with jiu jitsu and never had it and then by the beginning of my 2nd wrestling season for my high-school I had it on both ears 😂
@@csl9843 u didnt wear headgear bro
And this is why I prefer gi
It should say, “wrestler vs white belts” hahaha… I wanna see him doing that to a BJJ practitioner who has the same amount of time that he has in wrestling… he’s just a bully 🤷🏼♂️
As a wrestler myself, this type of wrestler makes the rest of us look bad. Aggression is good, but this kinda dude always trying to stick his nuts out even in drills for the sake of ego. Start injuring people and nobody wants to work with you, unless they're the same type cool with injuring in training and sparring
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu >>>>>>>
Am I the only one a little confused with why they separate grappling into so many different disciplines? Like imagine if you combined judo, wrestling, and jiujitsu. If there's something idk about these styles that would make it hard to combine them someone tell me.
Rule set differences for some, also specific specialties they each focus on within grappling that over time makes them look and act noticeably different
Experienced wrestler vs white belts
Collegiate wrestler smashing white belts at a local tourney. At least put him in the blue division and this ain't happening.
I think a lot of BJJ practicioners have weak clench game. Some good Judo would really improve their game
Sambo, the perfect marriage
They stood no chance against that bottle of 5 hour energy
The only reason I don't wrestle is because of the oil check move.
😂😂
Jiu-Jitsu guys sit on your face
Stupid excuse to say I’m scared
@@googlegmail9888 you may be right, but I'm still not getting fingered by another man infront of a crowd🤣🤣. So, judge me!
Wrestlers always dominate nogi ❤
Madre mía, donde aprendió el de negro?
He didn’t learn anything useful 😂
That first td was disrespect 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is this white belt competition?
What was that last move called?
Rear naked choke
All depends on the gym and levels
You're not gonna do that to an experienced blue belt
Roger Gracie walks onto the mat.
RIP 😢
Honestly wrestling determines wether u fight up or down, jiujutsu finishes the fight
It’s still BJJ since all wrestling moves are legal in jiujitsu. This is a BJJ competition so it’s just a difficult type of jiujitsu style.
No, it's wrestling.
What every wrestler thinks what will happen if they get in a fight or go against a BJJ guy, and yes I am guilty of this.
People forget a massive component of jujitsu is standing
I wouldn't say massive 🤔
This why i pull guard. Im 36 i dont need that
Is suplex allowed in bjj tournament
Nah 😂
Wrestling vs bjj, one of the dudes he's tossing is wearing wrestling shoes 😅
Now try a blue belt
A good wrestler will pummel a blue belt easily
@@seanh6709 now do a purple belt
is slamming legal in bjj?
Mostly he will do body slam thats why i like catch wrestling
Time to pull guard and leg lock
I seen this all the time in NAGA a college wrestler or elite HS wrestler who learned some basic defense from submission n enters novice and begginer level which are two (2) different levels 1. Begginer 2. Novice n they are white belts or orange belts no blue belts
Gordan ryan vs Bo nickal don’t act like you forgot, best on best
Imagine choosing bjj over judo or wrestling
We had a canadian champion wrestler enter a beginner bjj turney.. its was rediculous. He made himself look like a fool.
Let me guess, "he's a white belt"
White belt with no stripes 😢
That’s bullshit. Wrestlers should have to compete at the blue belt level.
@@alotafhindi7485 😂😂
@@alotafhindi7485 wrestlers would get demolished at blue belt level. There needs to a in between level
Which ones which
I feel bad for the first guy. Someone should teach bjj guys how to land safely. 😅
if you are good in bjj you should win against wrestler due to subs of your back, work smarter and be dominant in gaurd.
Not a single one from what we saw turn the right way after Throw, suprised by the wrestler maybe but i think not so advanced, 2 or 3 competition max.
whos the wrestler
The kid has little to no BJJ. Should not be competing unless you defend basic shit.
BJJ and wrestling the ying and Yang
One word......Kamura
Wrestling + jiu jitsu vs jiu jitsu
First ones a DQ
Like what was that first doing? He literally had 0 defense
U can’t do that shit when i pull gaurd😎
Greco instincts kick in 😎😂😂