Best Budget Cordless Impact Wrench? Craftsman Dyno'd vs Bauer Hart Ryobi & Ridgid
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Our lifetime of TOOL RANKINGS torquetestchannel.etsy.com Check out our T-shirt Shop: bit.ly/3z98ryF Craftsman CMCF920B 1/2" V20 Brushless impact wrench takes on Harbor Freight's Bauer mid torque along with Ryobi P261, Ridgid Octane R86011B & Walmart's Hart HPIW01. Our most underrated tool test yet is revealed, and it takes home some points for that effort! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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I've got a couple of items I'd love for you to test
Can you test the masterforce impact ? From Menards
*Will u do corded impacts* I almost always use Ryobi and they work well for me. But as far as impact wrenches go anyone can see why u would want to stay corded here
I don't know what you are using an impact tool for but my only concern is in reverse. Removing a rusted on bolt. Max in reverse. Another is removing tires for service. 8 lugs each. 64 cycles without going dead on one charge.
The Mac, er, DeWalt, er Craftsman is a good deal for the total price paid. It has enough for any light truck or car repair.
The best budget impact is whichever one you already have batteries for.
And when you don’t have any platform you spend months trying to decide which one you’ll invest in
Truth
@@tylerbuchanan6822 same spent a month comparing and ended up on the 20V craftsman bandwagon when i found a sore dick deal for a 1/2 drill, 2 batteries and a charger for ~150
True I just stuck when the battery u got and have plenty of tools to go with them And your impact goes out and they do t sell the old battery's or tools anymore
So if a family member gave you a snap on battery you should spend $700 on the impact?
Smart
I have those Craftsman torque wrenches. They are very underrated, like all of their tools. The only ones that say the Stanley Craftsman tools are junk are the ones who have never used them
I own almost the entire v20 line in brushed and brushless variations and they work great, I mostly wrench on dirt bikes and motorcycles, nothing real big, i agree the power tools are awesome, i just wish they could figure out how to make a 3/8 ratchet, I own a ton of them and they all break within the first week of use then its off to lowes to warranty them all once a month
I've had the Craftsman C3 from Sears for years and now the Craftsman from Lowes for 2 years now. Been through it all from Transmission drops to Engine swaps and so forth. A truly underrated Impact.
Glad to see the Craftsman v20 stuff rated. Most of the quality review channels I have found tend to overlook them in favor of the higher end products.
I have more then a few of the Craftsman v20 line of tools, and they have been pretty decent for the money for my use cases.
I have many v20 tools, too. The people that put them down have never used them.
I've never used Bauer tools, but don't talk s about them because I've never used them.
I wonder why he did the Craftsman Best Case Scenario in forward rather than reverse? In the 10 second reverse test, it was about 15 ft lbs ahead of where it was at the 10 second mark in BCS.
I rebuild cars all day long with my craftsman wrenches and my v20 tools especially the impact wrench and the electric ratchet. Their tools are really good Milwaukee fan girls always try to knock them
I have DeWalt and Craftsman, including redundancy in drills and drivers. All work just fine for my used.
Craftsman impressed me so far, I managed to find used/going out of stock deals for some of their stuff at lowes (255 mechanics tool set for $70, both brushless impacts for 40 and 60) I just had to pay full price on a pair of 4AH batteries. Got almost all that I need for my home garage and it handled my home car work pretty well.
I bought that Craftsman wrench a few month back, hadn't seen anyone compare it to any other tools. Like you said, perfect for lugs and a decent price, got mine on sale. Have been very pleased so far.
I bought that little Craftsman a year ago. I work for AAA in roadside assistance and aide from the occasional 'so tight the threads are damaged' super rusted upstate NY Salt City lug nut which requires a breaker bar that little guy doesn't let me down. Super convenient for all the auto mechanic side work I do too
I got all my craftsman (drill, hammer drill, impact driver, impact wrench, & multitool) v20 for cheaper than a single Milwaukee 1/2 impact. Absolutely love them.
I have been using the Craftsman for the last few months and it has been awesome. I got the same great deal for $119 with the 4.0 battery.
I picked up that craftsman a couple months ago for $60 (display model being torn down) and man its nice to know the numbers back up what I was feeling. Definitely worth the price shes a small beast
I'm gonna be looking for something like that or a sale. Will be a steal on sale, yours was just a robbery lol
Diesel tech here, all my cordless tools are V20 and I love em, they keep up with the expensive red brand my coworkers have and realistically, if something is tight we all just use air impacts anyway. Great review as always!
Glad to get my weekly dose of torque. Keep em coming
Thank you for this demonstration. I have a craftsman torque gun and i always wondered how it would stack up and this was perfect. I am happy i purchased it and it will work great for my needs. Light mechanical works great on break brackets. Once again thanks this was very informative.
Already have a full lineup of M18 impacts for work. Needed one for school/home and saw a Craftsman with a drill, drill bits, regular bits, 2 batteries, and a charger on craigslist for $100. Picked it up today, and am pleased to see it performed so well. Great review!
Probably stolen
This is the kind of review that I love... thank you.
I just bought the Craftsman based on this video. Thanks!!
Great information very helpful I am a Craftsman guy myself but it's good to see some options I just picked up the 3/8 Craftsman v20 max impact at Lowe's for 48.06 today, it perfect for my diy stuff at home.
I just picked up that Craftsman’s little brother - the CMCF910. It’s the V20 Brushless 3/8” drive impact. It was on clearance for $50 as a bare tool, so I’m guessing a replacement is on the way. That said, you guys are welcome to throw it on the dyno. Just let me know where to send it.
If you want a laugh, I can send you one of my Black & Decker “Matrix” 20v tools with the impact driver attachment. Just to see how far SBD’s tools have come in the past 5 years.
Same here that’s why I’m going back and comparing the numbers on my box of the 3/8ths vs his half inch
i have the ryobi p261 for about 3 years now and i couldn't be happier with it. it hasn't failed to spin off a fastner yet. i do live in fl so our cars aren't rustbuckets so there is that, but its been invaluable on several car repairs i've done with it. even bought my dad one. i did just get a hart 3/8 inch. i found it on the clearance isle at the wm for $55 and picked up 2 4.0 batts and charger combos for $27 each also at the same wm. i haven't used it yet.
I just got the Craftsman CMCF921B and really like it. As you said, realistically on the average car it's probably getting 95%+ of the bolts off unless super rusted. Great deal all around, thank you for the test output. 🛠
Fantastic content, as always!
I would love to see what numbers the Ridgid makes with the 4 amp hour max output battery :)
Was surprised to see how these budget impacts stacked up against each other! Would you be interested in testing Milwaukee’s 2865-22 7/16 Lineman impact wrench? I have one that I’d be happy to send you for testing!
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@@TorqueTestChannel yes please!
Yea
@@TorqueTestChannel 7/16 square? useless in 95% of the real world?
I would like to the the 7/16 hex impacts up there. If you add the Makita vs Milwaukee
Regardless I still love my Ridgid mid and high torque impacts, great content my guy🤙
Picked this up for $99 and have absolutely loved it. Would love to see their other 1/2 and 3/8 too. Been looking at picking up those
Stellar review. Subscribed and looking forward to more.
I have one of the earthquake 3/8 impacts, it works for most stuff on motorcycles. For the $117 I paid years ago it's done well and still going strong.
I had the Craftsman C3 19.2v 1/2 Impact and it was a great all around tool from lug nuts to suspension work, crank bolts etc it got the job done. Unfortunately it fell victim to theft, I'm getting another Craftsman, Thanks for the video.
I just purchased all new craftsman v20 brushless tools Hope my purchase helps them move back to the top USA USA USA GO CRAFTSMAN
I'm addicted to this channel! Even though in the UK we can't get half of these tool brands....
Craftsman is a surprise. Nicely done TTC
Awesome job Craftsman!!
I picked up the Ridgid octane last week after I saw this test. Got it from home depot 167.00 shipped mine came with a 4ah battery?...have not used it yet,hope to sunday gotta help stepson install lower ball joint on his Forester.Tool seams stout enough ,I have IR air power on backup!....Thanks for all the great test guys.
I've got that Craftsman, and it'll run lug nuts on and off all day long. I change the battery about once a day. Also good for suspension because of it's small size.
I'm gonna get the craftsman cuz I already have a craftsman drill and impact driver. Hehe...the set gotta match too
great work! thank you guys
I use the corded baurer almost dailey to break lug nuts and old rusty suspension bolts. And for the 69$ I paid for it I'm happy I've made thousands with it. Disclaimer I do have to use a bar to loosen truck lugs most of the time.
I have both the 1/2" and 3/8" Craftsman impacts. I'm convinced the Craftsman 3/8 impact (CMCF910B) is literally one of their 1/4 impacts (CMCF810B) with a different anvil and gearing. I didn't take the impact mech apart, but the casing, switch, and motor look identical.
It is, the USA stickered 1/4 uses the same rating as the 3/8 but only makes 125 ftlbs due to losses not having an anvil. The other 1/4 drivers uses the same exact parts but aren’t assembled in the USA so they get the accurate 125 rating. It seems they took the 3/8 case and slapped in a bit driver but forgot to retest the torque, hence why if you go to TTCs review of it it did poorly.
Yay for the craftsman. It looks good and works great
This was a very good, and educational video. Thank you
It's interesting to look at the torque curves here but in practical terms the most useful tools make the quickest high torque. When making a purchase I would want that immediate capability even if it fell short with some you've rated higher.
I went to lows and purchased a dewalt 1/2 drill but I was looking at the craftsman after watching your video I would like to purchase the impact wrenches . Thanks for the awesome video 👌🏾
Before I watch. A few years ago more like 6 I bought the 299$ ridged drill and 1/4 impact with 2 batteries. And got the gen 4 1/2 impact free I have used it daily for 6 years with the same two batteries and it still runs doing fire sprinkler work. Many times dropped out of ceilings best free tool i ever got.
Really glad I got that Milwaukee mid torque on sale at farm and fleet for $170. I already have multiple Milwaukee tools/batteries, so kinda sticking with them even though I do like some tools from other brands, but that mid torque is definitely nice and packs beaaans
GREAT WORK BRO ! GREAT INFO !
Another channel tested the Mac 1/4" impact and found the 1/4" seriously underrated. Now that channel doesn't have a dyno, but used a torque wrench to torque bolts. I think SBD is trying to upsell Big Yellow, bigger drive size, and new 12v line,, possibly due profit margins. Craftsman is at the bottom of SBD good, better, best line up. Great performance from the Craftsman. Think the calculation should not be limited to 100%
I just bought a bunch of craftsman tools a few months ago for my christmas splurge, the brushless is just the older dewalt generation, still claps!
I got a hart brushless 1/4 impact and it rips lug nuts off torqued at over 140 foot pounds . I’m happy with it
The size of the Bauer looks like it shares internals with the corded one you reviewed a few weeks ago. Instead of 120v it's just going on 20v.
Would last forever if that's the case
they look similar but the corded one is twice the size lol
It won’t work that way. The electronics inside are completely different, with the battery powered unit incorporating a much more advanced speed controller, rather than a simpler 120 volt variable resistor.
Higher voltage makes it easier, oddly enough. Since it’s so much more efficient.
I love your videos and I would love to see the new brushless Bosch Freak on this channel
I actually bought that craftsman impact for $99 bucks, included 4.0 battery and charger. I can’t complain and just keep it in the garage for lug nuts. Works great…
Are you testing the Dewalt mid torque? I just bought one to add to my dewalt set and would like to see how it adds up against the craftsman
"Fun" fact ("Lustiger" Fakt): Bauer translates to "builder" literally but generally means farmer in German. ;-)
I'm a Craftsman person . My shop mate think I'm jut with this brand in a shop and yet i do my job and they lol that there a home name brand along with snap on and Mac tools and I'm there lead tech . When I got this for in January special they lol at me but kept up with there over price tools with the same warranty.. 1/2 3/4 impact gun and love it but it just a name i look for the guts for there Glory..
Thanks again for doing this teaching my son about the game on box vs real life claim.
I have a good amount of the new Craftsman line their brushes stuff that I have works amazing I have the 1/2 and 3/8 impact wrench I love those things
Saw Home Depot had the Ridgit subcompacts for 200 for the 1/2 and the 3/8 with charger and one battery for $100 more two more batteries for a total of 3 thats a deal in my book gonna pick those up
I’ve got the Ridgid with the 4ah battery and I got it for breaking the lugs off my F150. Does it without thinking about it. It also backed out huge bolts on my subframe and the suspension components without thinking about it. Love it for the price.
Looking for exactly same reason
I'd like to see you start testing 3/8" cordless impacts. I own the M12 compact 3/8" and have been unimpressed.
Yeah, freshly charged batteries get a boost from surface voltage. When racing electric cars (back in the days before li-po) we’d bring a charge boost pack to the starting line for that reason, taking it off at the last second we were allowed.
Good video and test. 5 people didn’t like the lab results, lol.
Thanks for the great video tryng put some new rims on my car and need a impact drill not just a drill too many choices just came from project farm drill videos haha
Would like to see the midrange 1/2 DeWalt.
Can you take a mid range impact wrench with the “most powerful battery” (8ah or 10ah battery) and compare that to a top of the line impact wrench with the smallest battery? (1.3ah or 1.5ah) I have the Dewalt mid range impact and used 2ah battery and felt it was underperforming. I picked up a 5ah battery and felt a night and day difference.
Seeing the tool truck mid torques would be interesting. Just expensive.
@@TOOLS_AND_MORE Even then from my understanding the Mac stuff is mostly rebranded DeWalt anyways
Matco’s cordless stuff is pretty stout, a couple colleagues at work have 16v and 20v tools from them. I find Milwaukee superior in my toolbox.
I'm not a tool guy, I needed a few power tools for my first home, almost got a DeWalt drill/impact combo at HD for $140 because I know the brand from previous jobs. Stumbled on a Hart set at Walmart with an impact, drill, flashlight, reciprocating saw, hand vac, charger and (2x) 1.5ah batteries for $120. Paid an extra $50 for an angle grinder with a 4ah battery. I just moved in a few days ago, only used the drill and impact so far but I think I got my money's worth from those two alone. I will say that I naively thought I was getting the brushless set because the tools were in a brushless display but I'm not at all upset for what I got at the price point.
Hi torque test! Love the channel and slowly making my way through your uploads. I currently have ridgid tools for the warranty on batteries as well as the tool… also the price. It would be very interesting to see a comparison of the tools that you have tested by brand, testing consistency, value, and down right busting nuts. It’s clear that you’ll see Milwaukee and Makita on top, but it would be interesting to see where craftsman, dewalt, ridgid and other brands stack up against one another.
All V20 Craftsman brushless are stepped down DeWalt clones. I would agree when you say they down play to protect the yellow. As for their other offerings, I’ve been completely satisfied with their impact and hammer drill clones of the brushless 887 and 796 from DeWalt.
I have all the v20 mid torque and the cmcf921 has done me well so far with 1/2 ton trucks and it’s baby brother cmcf911 3/8 drive. On a budget must get.
I decided to get a deeply-discounted Hart wrench. You're right, it does smell like burning trash when running. It also runs for only 1 second almost every time I pull the trigger, then shuts off. (Like 4-out-of-5 times.) Tried multiple fully-charged batteries. I'm taking it back as it seems their QC is terrible at any price.
I bought a Work pro for 79 bucks and I’ve been impressed with it. I’ve removed axle nuts, crank nuts and lug nuts with no issues. Came with battery and charger
How is it 6 months later?
I have purchased the mid sized dewalt impact, I haven't found anything it won't undo yet. Best tool I have bought in a long time.
I've been running v20 craftsman tools in a increasingly professional setting for about two and a half years now. When time comes to replace them I'll go with Milwaukee of Makita, but otherwise I have had absolutely no real problems beating on this generations craftsman's. the only tool I've ever not been super happy with was my cordless angle grinder which kills the smaller batteries quickly with sustained use. But the bottom line is they DO work and they work serviceably and if you know how to use your tools you wont have a quality of work gap with them, maybe ease of use and a minor speed advantage; bu they will do quality work.
THANK YOU..AWSOME JOB
Great video review. I was torn between the Ryobi P262 and the Rigid R86011b.
Right now, HD has the Ryobi P262K1 kit (with charger and one 4 ah battery for $189, and the Ridgid for $179 - for two tools (where the 2nd 'tool' choice can be the battery kit - AC87024SB, which includes the charger and two batteries( one 4 ah, and one 2 ah).
The ryobi shows a slight advantage in power, with actual torque, per your test of 442 ft/lbs. But, the Ridgid is close with actual torque of 394 ft/lbs. (Since the Craftsman tested at 343 ft/lbs, and was enough to remove lug nuts from an F150, that means either the Ryobi or Ridgid would meet my primary needs).
If not for the fact that the Ridgid comes with a lifetime service agreement, which include free replacement batteries, I would take the Ryobi, at about the same price and an extra 50 ft.lbs of torque, with their 3 year warranty.
Which one would anyone here get given this choice?
I just wanted to share something I recently saw.
I know some people prefer a detent pin style over the friction ring style, but I saw a video of a Dewalt Dcf899 where the anvil broke right at the detent.
I've been watching a lot of power tool videos lately, and I've seen the craftsman be a great bang for the buck. It's replaced porter cable as the 2nd BnD brand, just behind Dewalt- and not by a whole lot. Probably the best tools on a budget right now. Used to be Ryobi, not anymore.
I'm new to tools but I was advised that it would make my life a lot easier because I was going to start working on suspension components on my vehicle. parts like the coils, struts, control arms, upper and lower, things like that. I'm trying to learn how much tool I really need for these. They're on just cars and mid sized suv's. Not anything on a large truck. not yet anyway.
Looking up things on 3/8's or 1/2's. Mid torque, high torque. Not entirely sure. Hopefully I can learn what I need to best fit my needs. hopefully without breaking the bank. Been watching all your videos for the past few days.
Let's see the kobalt 24v mid torque. And would love to see some air and cordless ratchets
Excellent review!
Good amount of actually useful information presented well.
Any chance of including Ozito's new PXC stuff as I heard they've been acquired by a German company Einhell
Thanks
I got the craftsman and forgot to change to n2,, so I used on n1 speed and I was like this is not strong at all,…then saw the option for n2 speed,..change to n2 and man! Took off all the screws I need it for 09 Buick front suspension,…so happy with this new brushless tool from craftsman,…
Would love to see where the new Ryobi HP brushless sits.
I brought my son the gen1 impact, and we know that be it, Ty, for the vid
Hey I love craftsmen been using them for years and never had a fail from one. For the most part craftsmen is the smartest buy on most tools but there only grinder worth a dime is the rp line of grinder
Makes me feel good about my purchase!!
I noticed you had the craftsman in tightening mode on the 15 second test, did it perform worse in loosening mode? I assumed it would be right up there with the Ridgid after seeing it perform well in the 10 second test
I love my Ridgid Octane mid torque..use it alot in an automotive application...that and my Ridgid 3/8" subcompact do everything I've needed..
11:10.. you get more power with the 9 amp hour octane battery then you would with the 3 amp hour octane battery
that Craftsman is probably the best value there.. getting the tool and a free 4ahr battery you can't beat it not sure why anyone would get theHart, the Ryobi, or the Bauer when you can get that Craftsman with the 4 amp hour battery
Theres a deal for the octane ridgid with a 4 ah standard battery and charger for 150 so I think that would put it in a good spot too
I love that thing I own the electric ratchet, 3/8 impact and the 1/2 mid-trq Im just waiting for them to release a high-trq that would be great.
I bought a Ryobi a couple years ago because I have several one+ tools and this video really makes me sad. But it really does struggle just with removing lug nuts.
That impact will equal the Ridgid if Craftsman starts making batteries with 21700 cells. Some of the their brushless V20 tools seem pretty decent, but that impact wrench is a great value.
Thanks for this and your other vids--keep 'em cranking 🙄😄
I would like to know where you buy your cordless impacts? haven't looked at the others but have been checking Milwaukee and haven't seen a 1/2 drive for less than $500 but they do mostly come with a bag, battery and usually a charger
Hell yeah. Thank you
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. czcams.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
I'd like to see cobalt 24v max impacts tested
Well, i own a Kobalt max, and I can tell you it really does put out some serious torque, it has no problem on semi lug nuts. I use the 4 or 6 amp hour batteries. Definitely would be good to see it tested on here!!!!
Agreed i just bought one so stoked to use it
I am so happy to see the Craftsman perform as good as it did. Not so junk as everybody says or puts Craftsman down. For my pocket book Craftsman performs great for me.
Craftsman has a huge hole to dig themselves out of after making truly terrible tools for the past 20 years. Good to see the brand is trying and in some cases succeeding to make a turnaround.
@@ZeGermanHam that it does but it wasn't Craftsman's brands fault. Poor miss management at Sears was the reason why it went downhill and shipping everything overseas. Time to bring back the name now.
Can there be a test to see each of these wrenches taking off an putting on a full set of tires? Please?
Im trying as much as I can to avoid TTI products. Actually sold my M12 stubby for more than I got it for. Would you get the DCF903B or the CMCF910B? Im still leaning on the DCF
Rid
God batteries have lifetime warranty which they do honor. Works perfect for all applications on my f250
I'd like to see a battle of the 3/8 impact wrenches! I have a Dewalt lineup of tools for my hobby mechanic work, for nuts and bolts I have a 20v XR DCF887 impact driver that I use with a socket adapter, and the DCF899. The impact driver is great for small stuff, but often I find it lacking for rusty bolts larger than M6..i think the adapters act as "torque sticks" and really don't allow the driver to transmit everything it has. The DCF899 is too large to shlepp around for the small stuff that the impact driver can't handle. I want to know if the 3/8 20v XR DCF890 actually has proper beanage to fill the gap, or if i would need to go with the 1/2 in DCF894 to get decent power in a relatively small package. Help plz
I love my craftsman 1/2 impact, it's basically a watered, down red DeWalt haha
I got the Craftsman one for free basically just because I wanted a drill driver and the package I bought had the drill, 2 batteries, charger and the impact included. Have never even bothered to try the impact as I have a corded Kobalt I use for most stuff I use an impact gun for and it has yet to let me down.
*Awesome combo **MyBest.Tools** Veeeeery powerful especially for size. And the batteries last well. When charged and stored they don't lose power like my old bulky ones did.*
I have the Milwaukee mid and high torque and ridgid mid and high torque and the brushed ryobi one I use Ridgid the most because of the LSA
On the topic of the craftsman other tools, I bought their 20v circular saw when they first introduced their line to check them out. I had to get a warranty replacement after only 2 hrs of use because the motor emitted magic smoke. The warranty replacement is running strong, but the plate is a little on the flimsy side. Maybe impacts are harder for them to screw up. But I am curious how it's longevity would be.