Sony LA-EA5 Adapter Allows AF on Sony E-Mount Cameras with A-Mount lenses -- Screw Drive Lives!!!
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2020
- SONY today (9-1-20) has announced a clever way for owners of A-Mount lenses to use them on the newest SONY E-mount cameras like the a9II, a7RIV, and a6600. With select cameras, all SSM and SSM II lenses will AF as well as even the older screw-drive lenses. Please see SONY's website for exact information. In this video I shot football action using the a9II/LA-EA5 adapter with the SAL 70-400mm f/5.6G SSM II and the SAL 300mm f/2.8G SSM II lenses. Then I switched over to using the SONY a7RIV (with Firmware version 1.20) with the LA-EA5 adapter and the SAL 85mm f/1.4 Zeiss and SAL 135mm f/1.8 Zeiss lenses on a fashion/model shoot. Patrick Murphy-Racey is a Sony Artisan of Imagery. Many thanks to Knoxville Catholic High School, Oak Ridge High School, and for the time that actress/model/fashionista Bailey McCall gave me for this project! Find Bailey @baileymccallstyle on IG.
Here is a link to buy an LA-EA5: www.bedfords.com/27242921108
(use code PMR at checkout to get 5% off the normal price)
FINALLY!!! I have been waiting for it since a7RII
I'm old time Sony shooter n have a collection of A mount lenses, been waiting for this adapter for years . Thanks for the review
you bet!
I still shoot A mount and have been hoping for this for a very long time. I have a bunch lenses as I came from Minolta when Sony took over the system and have added many Sony A mount lenses as well. Felt kinda like I was at a dead end with my A99ii but now a smooth transition looks like a sure thing. This is the best news I've had with regards to just about everything since mid March. 👍
@M Tech well said
there are more A mount shooters than you can imagine! :D thanks for the video!!
and they love A mount and are loyal...
Here I’m..one of them. I shoot both e and a mount but I still love my a77ii, the best A mount ever made.
Same here. I started with the A100, then A33, then 58 n 65 n jumped to the A7
@@mohansuswaram4154 I bought myself 2 A99 bodies and l love them even more than my A77 and A77ii. I'll probably buy the A99ii too at some point
Thx! I have the A6600 with LA-EA5 und love to use the old Minolta Lenses. I´m so happy that Sony make this possible.
Great to hear!
Wow what a small world, not only are giving great information! But the Oak Ridge football team. My Son in law is the head coach now. So was amazed to see them.
I also have a new A7RIV I purchased a year ago, and also the 70-400 A mount lens.. so thanks for the great info. Although I shot mostly landscape and nature. I am excited the get a hold of one of these adapters. If you ever go back to shoot another Oak Ridge game holler, would like to stop and say hello.
please do, it's a great game environment and a really cool stadium!
Thanks for the first hand test video.
:)
Man you're lucky. There is no high school sports going on here :o( I've been dying to use my new 400 2.8 for football... Great shots btw, and thanks for showing people that you don't get 100% winners shooting sports, it's important to know that neither a camera or the photographer are going to be perfect
Very informative, appreciate the great info as also. I have a question, I got into the A99iis right before they added 2.8 glass to E-Mount and I'm waiting to slowly move over to A9iis , it sounds ike this new adapter is a big help (I shoot old Minolta lenses for sports) I was curious if you still adapt any Canon stuff and how the adaptation works these days for that stuff as well.... these 30 year old lenses are a bit slow and I was curious if I can fit in a Canon lens or something and get better focusing results.
Yeah I have the 85/1..4 Sony/Zeiss screw mount lens, it is a beast. If you want to get rid of the purple fringing in Lightroom, just go Develop -> HSL/Color -> Saturation, the slide purple & magenta down to -100. It works as long as you don't have big patches of purple or magenta. I thought they added to the adjustment brush, but I tried it just now and it didn't work. Thanks for reading this comment!
Lovely work. How many shots on football night?
This is what I have been waiting for. I own the 85/135/ and the ssm 70-200.
Finally.
Great video. Thanks. I am just wondering how the A-Mount 70-400 compares to the E-Mount 100-400? Have you done a comparison?
Nice work, thanks! Since SAL70400 has SSM, there's nothing to do with that "screw driver" thing while auto focusing, I'm wondering how is this LA-EA5 compares to LA-EA3
While I am here, can I also wish for an LA-EA6 adapter for Minolta SR-mount MC/MD glass with working aperture coupling so we can focus wide open and have the automatic stop down via the aperture lever? And also have picture in picture in the EVF/LCD when doing focus magnification so that one can see the zoomed in portion and also at the same time see a smaller box overlayed in the corner with the full composition (basically like it works in Play mode when zooming in).
So far I have not seen any information or test about whether the adapter will allow autofocus on the two relevant cameras with 5 pin lenses (lacking AF D). Any information on this?
Nice video! I have a question about the Sony 300mm f2.8. I just purchased a Gen 1 300mm f2.8 but it hasn't been delivered yet so I'm still waiting on it to arrive. Have you used the Gen 1 300mm lens or only the Gen II 300mm lens? If you have does the Gen 1 perform well for sports? Thanks.
Thanks for this detailed video! Your purple fringing examples on the 135 were pretty minor and could be very easily corrected in a RAW editor. I greatly prefer the look of the A-mount 135 over the E-mount options.
Always watching your videos, great info. Could you tell me how well the lenses with no focus motors performed on your A9II? Like your Zeiss 135.
In the portrait setting and using the a7RIV which does not enjoy the awesomeness of the a9II in terms of AF, it worked very well. Once it locked on the eye it pretty much never let go, even when shooting in a dark parking garage. I was impressed but having said all that, it will not compare to the a9II with GM glass.
Hahaaaa this explains our conversation, earlier. VERY cool. Going to have to chat with the powers that be to make sure our stuff will work the way it is supposed to. Brilliant. So glad Sony did this. P.S. YES the OG 135 f/1.8 Zeiss was CLASSIC. Did so much work with that baby.
yes!!!! we will talk.
Good morning, friend I have an a6400 and I bought this adapter for my a-mount lenses to fit on my a6400.
I'm in trouble, I can't get AF auto.
is there any configuration on the camera?
the message that appears, is that the lens is not supported by the camera.
or I was unlucky enough to buy a defective adapter.
I still have Maxxum bodies. Kinda gave up on my A mounts. Luckily, I kept them in the family. Time to recollect all those lenses.
This adapter is very exciting. I wonder how the AF performance compares to the MC-11? PMR, would you consider doing a comparison? It couldn’t be a complete comparison but it would be good info to see how similar they are in fast focusing and accuracy. Thanks PMR for the great video and all your hard work.
Honestly, I still feel like the more modern II version canon glass will work better with MC11 vs. LA-EA5...
Everyone get your amount lenses NOW! Before their prices quadruple overnight!
What for? Screwdrive lenses only work on 3 e-mount cameras. This is disappointing.
I got almost all my fav Minolta Af Lenses... going For Sony SALs ASAP 😐😐
@@TheDomdom808 yes but im sure there will be a firmware soon
A few months ago, I asked you if I should get the Minolta 400mm prime or the Sony 70-400mm. You liked both but suggested to go with Sony. I did! What an amazing lens!! So...fast forward a bit...I went all in and purchased the A7RIV along with the Voigtlander 65mm apo, the Sony 135mm f1.8, and the Sony 200-600mm G (the zoom throw is awesome). I also purchased the LA-EA4 adapter but was disappointed with the 15 point AF system with the 70-400mmG2. Saints be praised, now I can buy this new adapter and utilize the power of the 70-400mmG2 on my A7RIV. I still kept my A77M2 system as a backup. I was wondering if I made the right choice getting the Sony 200-600mm, but now it is a moot point. I get to use two amazing long lenses. Thanks for the great advice!!
you bet!!!
Sony is killing it!
totally agree :)
Thanks for the review. Do you think the new adapter works for 3rd party lenses ?
I have the Tamron 70-200 F2.8 USD and Tamron 150-600 USD.
it should work better than LAEA3/4 for sure with non-manufacturer glass as well.
I have the same question. I’m using the Lea4 with A mount on my A7 but with limited AF zone.
Now with my brand new A7 III, I would like to use the upgraded AF from the camera body on my A mount lenses (SIGMA 70/200 f2,8 / TAMRON 150-600 and SONY 50 f1.4 with screw AF). I discussed with a Chinese guy that confirmed that this ring is working very well with the Tamron 150/600 and the AF zone is the same as the camera body. I will get one of this lens and test it.
IF I HAVE A7M4 AND 70-200G version1 AND 24-70ZA ，EA5 CAN USE? HOW MANY FOCUS POINTS CAN I GET? ONLY 15? OR MORE ? HOW ABOUT MOVING TARGET SHOOTING?? PLS .
Any idea if this will work on video too ?
do they support continuous auto focus with this adaptor in Video mode? (It couldn't with EA3 and EA4 adaptors)
no video AF
For those Sony A-mount SSM lenses build in AF motor, does the LA-EA5 give better AF performance than LA-EA3 ?
shouldn't be any different.
YES!!! this is why the FW update 1.20 is significant. Remember that LA-EA5 replaces the LA-EA3 so the FW update will not affect the LA-EA3--improvements with accuracy and speed will only be realized with the 5. Great question!!!!
Awesome! What about video? Does it track focus in video mode too?
@@andyyoon7853 That question is mostly answered at the very end of the video. 😉
@@andyyoon7853 no video support at this time.
Have to buy this yeah
how well does it work in video?
does it still have the aperture limitation with autofocus?
No autofocus for video
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF MISSED AF PHOTOS DO YOU ACHIEVE IN THE LA-EA5 - SAL70400 SONY a9MK2 COMBINATION?
the 55mm f/1.8 Zeiss is still a contender!!!
Sony SAL-85F14Z F1,4 / 85mm Carl Zeiss Planar T with adaptor Sony LA-EA5 autofocus not working, do you have an idea why it is not working?
It doesn't work on all cameras.
support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/accessories/compatibility.php?area=gb&lang=en&mdl=LA-EA5&cat=3
Will the SAL 135 Zeiss F1.8 a-mount work(focus) on my A9 when using the LA-EA5 adapter for stills?
No it won't. Screwdrive lenses like the SAL 135 will ONLY work on the 3 cameras stated above with the LA-EA5.
Interesting,
Could you share some experience about the AF with Minolta lenses like 300/2.8 or 100/2 for exemple ?
The compatibility charts on Brian Smith webpage isn't showing any Minolta lens and that's make me wonder ...
Depends on your camera body. As of 9/2/2020, the Sony website shows Minolta glass only compatible with certain bodies, which does NOT include the A7III. (Actually it says compatible with limitations, but when you select any Minolta lens, it says AF doesn't work. What, exactly, then, is the point?)
One hopes more compatibility with more bodies is coming. After all, it's still in preorder stage.
Sony is not going to publish Minolta compatibility...
@@PMRTV oddly they have! You can drill down to the Minolta lenses individually on the Sony Japan compatibility webpage
hello, is it with the LA-EA5 ring on an a9 body the number of images taken per second is reduced or does it remain at 20 images per second?
10 fps max. the camera has to slow down to the max speed the lens is capable of...
@@PMRTV my lens is the sigma 150-600
Hello, may I know this adapter can use on sigma or other 3rd party a Mount lenses? Thanks
some Minolta/Sony A mount aftermarket glass will work, especially if it's newer but the older stuff may work but not well. The older Sigma screw drive lenses are terrible while the older Sony A mount screw drive lenses actually work pretty well.
Thanks for the video. Will you be reviewing the a7s iii?
As soon as I get my hands on the one I ordered!!! I'll do two different ones-- first I will talk about it for still photography and second for video. I think the camera is being marketed by Sony as exclusively for video peeps, but the power of the sensor has far reaching purpose in photojournalism, sports, wedding, and portrait photography.
@@PMRTV Exactlly I think the A7siii will be my first full frame E-mount camera for the same reasons you just mention! Will definitely be waiting on your review! Can't wait!
I would like to ask you if you tried the old Minolta lenses. Like 300m F4 G. Or 2.8. I want to know if the figures is fast. Because it's cheaper to get them than buying E mount lenses. Almost 4 times the price
no, the purple fringing drives me crazy... Sony has come so far in lens design--I feel strongly it would hurt my work to use any of that glass at this point.
How it does on tamron 90mm 2.8 the 2 nd version, do you have that lens in order to test it out?
I do not, all of that gear was shipped back to Sony. Sorry!
Will you shoot at Maryville vs Alcoa next week? If so, I’ll be the other guy there with an a9 II.
awesome! I shot AE at Fulton last Friday :)
Patrick,
Thank you for making this video. In your experience, is the (a9/a9ii +la-ea5+minolta 300 2.8 hs apo g or 80-200 hs apo g combo) as fast on autofocus, reliable on tracking, etc.. as the a99ii with the same lenses?
Adapted lenses are just that, adapted. I think a99II would be better than even a1 on older SSM and Screw-drive glass. 10 fps is clunky, it starts late every time you want to start shooting a frame or sequence. There is no magic pill to transform your A mount glass into a GM lens. Asking even the a9II or a1 to dumb itself down to work with a lens whose roots are from the 1990's is never going to satisfy in the same way as a GM lens on a modern camera. The screw drive AF lenses in particular suffer from this distance between 1990 and 2021. They are good for portraits and event shooting but maybe not so much sports photography. I'd rather use a 200-600G at a night high school football game than a Sony 300mm f/2.8 SSM II lens. I'd rather edit through hundreds of perfectly sharp albeit noisy frames than walk away from that game with just a few keepers. the a99II is still a relevant camera--just don't every try out an a9II or a1.... Hope this isn't too depressing a message. I know many of you have a fortune invested in A glass and it was awesome back in the day, but SONY has pushed so fast and hard to produce lenses that are far better in every respect since A mount. Sad but true...
@@PMRTV Thanks very much. There's what I wanted to hear.....and then there's what I needed to hear....😁
Patrick, that 200 to 600 looks like a daytime beast. At 5.6 to 6.3, how high are you pushing your iso at night on a high school field with less than great lighting? I shoot a lot of lacrosse in these conditions. It's an interesting challenge as the game moves like basketball/ hockey and the shooters swing and shoot in the 90 to 100 mph range. I usually have to shoot 2.8 in order to keep iso to a useable range while freezing shooters.
If the reasonable iso range of the a9 and a9ii are that much better than my a99ii, it sounds like i have a decision to make and some gear to sell....
@@laxbro7ify sadly, yes, the a9 would blow your mind in low light--it's FANTASTIC. I would either borrow one from Sony (are you a sony pro service member? it's just $100 a year) or rent one asap. Find out what you've been missing!!!
I have LA-EA4 which allows my Ziess 135 1.8 to focus with my A9 and A7III. It just can’t do eye auto focus. Does the LA-EA5 allow eye auto focus? And are you saying it is only designed for the newest cameras and not A9 and A7III?
Yes
So, I use the Laea3 with the 70-400 (With the A9) and the AF tracking works quite well.
This adapter is working better than the Laea3 or the extra feature is that I can use it with the Minolta 80-200 for example(and have eye autofocus etc)? Thank you very much
The 70-400mm with the a9 will be no different with the LA-EA5 compared to the LA-EA3. On the other hand, a 80-200mm now should have decent AF performance on the a9.
@@rzero21 disagree
@@PMRTV please elaborate. I own LA-EA3, coupled with a7Riv and a host of A-mount SSM lenses... with the exception of video AF, the LA-EA3 (with updated firmware) provides ALL AF functionality of native E-mount lenses (e.g. I get human & animal AF tracking at full 10fps with the LA-EA3). Other than screw drive capability, I've seen zero documented/claimed additional benefit of the LA-EA5 over the LA-EA3, when it comes to SSM lenses. I had hoped the new "5" would at least add video AF capability... otherwise it offers me absolutely nothing above/beyond what I get with the "3." Please enlighten me if I've missed something. I'd like to find a reason to get it :)
Will this adapter support autofocus on third party A mount lenses.
I have a Sigma 300mm 2.8 and a Sony 7riii
it will work better on the 120-300 Sport but yes, it should work on your older 300 Sigma.
@@PMRTV It will be very surprising for the adapter to work with legacy Minolta A-mount and 3rd party A mount lenses. Are you positively sure about it? Have you tester or do you have a reference?
@@simurg754 I asked Sony about this and acording to them, even the oldest Maxxum glass with only the 4 pins of contact will work with the LA-EA5. The 5 pin works well too.
we would like to see the adapter in action.... how fast is it, how noisy, etc...
it's pretty noisy--no so much the adapter but the lenses that are screw-drive. On SSM's, the adapter is pretty quiet.
Does it work in Minolta AF lenses? If yes, a bunch of Macro 200mm F4 G, 200mm F2.8 G HS, 300mm F4 G HS, 400mm F4.5 G HS and 600mm F4 G HS will see new life.
yes, on a6600, a7RIV
Hi PMR any news if a firmware update is coming for A9 to allow use of this great glass?
Hello, can you test with LA-EA5 with A-mount motor-less lens and a9ii or a7iii to see is it able to get AF
a7III will not work with this adapter--only a6600 and a7RIV right now.
@@PMRTV Do you know if it will not work at all on other cameras, or just the screw mount lenses will not be compatible?
I have an A6300 and a number of SSM lenses. I use the LAEA3, but would love to use the LAEA5 if it gives me a wider range of AF options than the LAEA3 provides.
Is it support Tamron 150-600 G2 lens sony A mount
Sony will never offer any advice about using gear they don't make but (it probably does).
How does it work with new 3rd party lenses? like sigma and Tamron?
the more recent copies should work fine... older ones not so much is my guess
I’m curious why Sony has left out all models except the a7riv and a6600 with this adapter? According to the Sony support page a lens like the 135 f/1.8 is not supported in AF on any of the other camera bodies. Only the LAEA4 allows AF. Any word on a firmware update??
It’s very annoying. This adapter would be a immediate buy for me if it worked with my A6400 and my older screw drive lenses, specifically my Sigma 100-300 f4.
@@sneeks I would love to own that lens in E-mount!!!! I keep asking Sony for this one...
PM-R TV It’s a fantastic lens and I’d love to keep using it but I’m not keen on using the LAEA4 with the older focussing tech it uses. The new adaptor would be perfect if supported as it would utilise the focus system of my A6400. Looks like that will not happen.
I have a7Riv and numerous A-mount lenses, all SSM. These all work perfectly coupled with my LA-EA3 WHILE SHOOTING STILL IMAGES (I see absolutely zero limit on AF speed & capability while shooting stills). The only limitation I've found with the LA-EA3 and SSM lenses is there's no AF while shooting video. I was hoping the LA-EA5 would fix that, but looks like no AF with video. So, am I wrong to conclude that the new LA-EA5 offers ZERO benefit over the LA-EA3 for SSM lenses? It simply adds screw drive AF capability. No other reason for me to get it, since I own no screw drive lenses. Please correct me if I'm wrong but for my use I see no reason whatsoever for me (with only SSM lenses) to "upgrade" my LA-EA3. I was really hoping this new unit would unlock AF in Movie Mode. The only possible reason to restrict video AF is to force sales of E-mount lenses.
ifyou don't hav any screw-drive glass, there is less a reason to get the newer adapter. Many love the 135mm f/1.8 Zeiss and other lenses and it was a huge thing for them. One last footnote... As the LA-EA5 is a new product, Sony will continue to do FW updates on it as they develop newer cameras etc... It's important to note this as the LA-EA3 has been discontinued as the newer version is clearly superior. Performance increases are part of the future for current products.
Great news. Any thoughts on this adaptator with the 600 f4 ssm on a A9?
This could be a great deal...
What 600 4.0 SSM, the only one I know of is Sony e mount native. The Minolta 600 4.0 is not SSM. There is a 500 4.0 SSM from Sony in A mount.
@@kengiordano848 you are right... the minolta one
there was never a Minolta 600mm f/4 with SSM that I am aware of. It was only screw-drive.
@@kengiordano848 correct!
Does he know about the la-ea4/2 for screw drive lenses on E mount cameras? I hate miss information. This only drives screw drive lenses on generation bodies. If you spend $4,500 on a A9II body will you really want to use old noisey non, natives lenses that won't do video?
So I just tried this adapter at B&H- really confused. We were using it on an A7RIV- trying it with my screw-drive lenses and none of them would work with AF. The focusing mode was greyed out and stuck on MF. I tried the Sony ZA 135 F/1.8, Sony 100 Macro F/2.8, and an older Minolta 17-35 F/2.8-4 - none of these screwdrive lenses would focus... is this firmware related? What gives. I got excited and then sad rather quickly
You have to do the firmware update he said this several times in the video, if not the adapter won't work correctly.
Can you test to see if you can AF-S while the camera is set to movie mode but not recording?
sorry, never used AF-S in my life...
@@PMRTV any focusing at all when not recording?
I wonder - because the frame rate is limited anyway, if you wanted to use the A mount lenses you now have the choice to use the A7sIII with no apparent frame rate penalty.
I'd love to see, purely out of curiosity, how the A7sIII performs as a sports camera, with or without the EA5.
as soon as I get mine I will be shooting High school ball to find out... and with the 200-600G at f/6.3.
How does it compare to the EA4 if I don't have the a7ii?
much better, no mirror to shoot through!!! no light loss either. faster and more accurate AF
Does it allow for full camera AF points on the Minolta AF 500 reflex mirror lens, which on A-mount only ever used 1 AF point?
"AF is available but when in low light conditions, when focus point is at the peripheral of the image, or when starting focus from completely out of focus, there may be cases where it is difficult to focus precisely." This is per Sony but the short answer is when using the new adapter with the 500mm f/8AF, you will be able to use even wide area AF areas on a9II, a7RIV, and a6600. Pretty cool!
PM-R TV game changer for the 500 Reflex. Just got one for $168 delivered from Japan. Could warrant the body upgrade right there!
@@PMRTV Wow That sounds crazily amazing. What is the limit for AF on emount ? F11 ?
@@actionphotopassion5082 depends on the body. a9II is f/11 but I think a7RIV is still f/8???
@@PMRTV thank you for clarifying.
I guess I will have to wait for more reviews to show up or I'll try to rent as I did for A7Rii.
To be honest I more curious to know now where Sony wants to go with the A9 line, now that they "killed" the A9x line in a way.
only A7r IV support for lenses without built-in af-drives? So I still require the LA-EA4 for 90% of my lenses.. :(
new firmware update is coming
you really should get away from the LA-EA4 and the mirror. You will gain more than a half stop of light and it will AF better (faster and more accurately) with LA-EA5.
@@PMRTV I'm afraid there will be no firmware update for the LA-EA5 for older bodies (maybe because of hardware support, maybe because of not supporting it anymore outright).
That half-a stop of light is actually less than half a stop, and as everyone with a SLT camera can tell you: It's not the problem :).
The old 7 or 9 point AF-point array-module with terrible alignment issues is the problem.
I don't have a problem with speed, I have a problem with focusing _accuracy_. That's why I moved away from DSLRs, and here is hoping someone will make a working A-mount adapter that uses on-chip phase detection for the A7 II generation.
Hmmm... I had the 70-400 G lens working with the LA-EA3 and a Sony A7II some 3 years ago. No eye focus, of course, but still every other mode worked with it. Not much of a point buying the EA5 if you already have the EA3 with A-mount SSM lenses. But if you have deep pockets and lots of the older Minolta/Sony lenses that are screw-driven, the it is certainly worth buying the EA5... and a Sony A7RIV. I hope Sony will increase the number of bodies which work with this adapter. How about the A7III or even the A7II: they both have PDAF on sensor. I'd buy the EA5 adapter if it worked with either of those ( less expensive ) bodies.
real time tracking is way too RAM taxing. A7III and a7II will never be able to accomplish RTT, even with FE glass. the processor is just too slow. It's the price you pay for progress... I'll never understand why people complain about Sony's innovation--not all new technology is backwards compatible.
I have an A mount 1.4 teleconverter. Will this mount work with that so I can use my e mount lenses with the A mount telleconverter?
Reginald Walton information I’ve seen says teleconverters won’t work with the LA-EA5, although that limitation is just with the screw drive lenses or all lenses, we’ll see. I think I’ve used teleconverters with the LA-EA3 and SSN lenses, so fingers crossed
@@AdamHouston Thanks for the info. Guess I need to look into selling my A mount version and go ahead and bite the bullet for an E mount.
@@reginaldwalton It is still very early - less than 24 hours since the announcement - so I think there are a lot of details that still need to be confirmed. Maybe a TC will work, even if not officially. Will the LA-EA5 work with Minolta lenses, or just the Sony-branded of the same lenses? Will the number of bodies supporting the screw drive function expand beyond the announced A7Riv and A6600? A9ii? A7C?
Keep the A-mount lenses for a few days - wait until demand for them kicks up again.
Sony says no TC compatibility right now...
Why it doesn't support screwdrive mount in a7ii!!!! Whyyyy!!
Can you say Marketing Restriction....
how much light does the new LA-EA5 Adapter absorbs?
none, like the LA-EA3 and LA-EA1.. there is no SLT mirror in there.
@@jorismak yep!
Hey Patrick, have you tested the A6600 out with the adapter?
you have to have an adapter to use A glass on E bodies. Not sure I understand your q?
@@PMRTV I'm sorry, I was asking if you've tested out any of your A mount glass with the LA-EA5 adapter with the Sony A6600.
Does the Sony LA-EA5 (when fitted to a Sony A7R IV) support any video modes with any Minolta AF lenses using AUTO FOCUS?
OR
Does it actually DO LESS than the limited Auto Focus video option available with a LA-EA4? [check out video testing at: czcams.com/video/O71jsijz2AU/video.html]
This is set to be released as soon as high school football is over... How would I get one now to use with the a9ii?
are you a member of Sony Pro Support?
@@PMRTV No. I i will check it out. I assume its on their web site?
@@PMRTV Here i assume? alphauniverse.com/prosupport/
@@PMRTV Can i get an invite code?
It looks not bad on paper but I guess wait for LA-EA6 for something that supports video or has an A99II AF module....
Exactly (but don't hold your breath). I've kept one a99ii body, along with all of my Zeiss & Sony G A-mount lenses. Sold one a99ii + Minolta 600/4 to fund purchase of a7Riv + SEL200600G. All my SSM A-mount lenses work perfectly on the a7Riv with the LA-EA3, EXCEPT no AF with video. Looks like this LA-EA5 provides zero for me over the LA-EA3 (unless I decide to buy some older screw drive lenses at some point).
@@shadduck I own the LA-EA3 and LA-EA4 but the 4 don't even hold up to my minolta A7 or 7D in terms of accuracy and lowlight im on an A7RIII with TechArt adapters any manual glass works fine almost like native tho so its a big wtf Sony moment when they just copied a chinamans LA-EA4 mod into an better built adapter with crippled firmware it can do video just needs a firmware update the hardware is all done.
Wait a minute, I've been using my LA-EA4 adapter with my old school Minolta 80-200 2.8 screw mount for several years! Yeah, it's clunky, bulky, & ugly, but works.
but Mike, you have been shooting through the mirror in the LEA4. The images will not be as sharp as with LA-EA3/5. You should see a pretty instant increase in quality once you switch to the LA-EA5.
@@PMRTV I get that. In particular, I was responding to your comments about this being the first time, you could ever put a mount lenses on e mount bodies is all.
the disappearance of the mirror is one of the main interesting point of this new ring.
Sony has left us with a crippled adapter for modern cameras like the A7iii and screw drive lenses like the Minolta 50mm 1.7 and 85mm 1.4 which are great with other adapters but not full feature autofocus like we could have.
At least your glass is still relevant... you gotta admit that's something!
Is this better then the Sony 200-600
nope, no combination of A mount glass with LA-EA5 will produce better results than an a9/a9II with FE glass. the 200-600G is a great lens and is just as fast in terms of AF speed as the 400GM
How does it compare to the LA-EA4 vs the new 5
much better as there is no mirror to shoot through!!!
@@PMRTV Awesome thanks, I invested in the LA-EA4 before I ordered the LA-EA3 for no translucent mirror, but lacked the screw drive. Now it's like the LA-EA5 is a compact version of the two, which is funny after the announcement of the A7c... I own both A7RII and Mark IV
at 8:42 ... banding or stadium seating?
stadium seating
Aoto focus its work for videos or not ?
no
Imagine the God damn beercan on a9 with eye af :D
I have the beer can and the minolta 80mm to 200mm f2.8 that beast has buttery bokeh, cant wait to shot these on a7r4
@@Aspro still running and gunning on dynax7 and a900 so i don't need this adapter. but with it i can finally give a try to the newer system :D
slow and loud lol
So this adapter won't work on a A7III? No support at all?
Not at the moment, only A7R4 and A6600 are supported at the time. What is bothering me more is that not a single Minolta lens is compatible according to the compatibility chart on Brian Smith website...
@@actionphotopassion5082 The official Sony site shows the official compatibility list - and every old Minolta A mount lens is there. Right now it says it will allow MF assist on the A7III unless you have the A7RIV or the a6600.
hopefully they allow older minolta glass to work with the lesser bodies (like the a7iii), opens up a world of great budget glass on a great budget body
Not according to the Sony site. Currently the LA-EA5 AF doesn't work on Minolta glass on A7III.
@@nakim58ify not yet, probably needs the firmware written and they're obviously going to develop the latest bodies first.
I'm thinking of something as simple as the 85/2.8 on an A7III.
Becareful to check with the camera and lens compatibility of EA-LA5. So far, only A7R4 and A9ii work nicely with legacy lenses.
The la-ea4 supports motor drive lens
Downside is it also introduces light loss of an SLT mirror, coupled with the older/inferior AF system of the a77.
Sony please gives the firmware update to 3rd Gen cameras for the screw mount lenses
the limitation isn't software or FW, it's hardware...
@@PMRTV are you saying a7r3 or a9 can't support it?
I posted too soon, the Sony accessories comparability info page has just been updated, and 5 pin lenses are compatible.
yes, so all Minolta glass save the funky 135
as well as the older 4 pin Minolta lenses!!!
So I won't be able to use screw drive lenses with my a9? That is disappointing....
I think you will but maybe not with RTT.
@@PMRTV So there would be the usual flexible spot, expandable spot, wide, center, but just not the RTT?
From my understanding SSM lenses are supported by several E-mount bodys with this adapter, but screw mount lenses are only supported by the A7RIV and A6600. Here a quote from the press release: "As of Sept. 2020, focal plane phase-detection AF is supported for SSM/SAM lenses on the Alpha 7 III, Alpha 7R III, Alpha 7R IV, Alpha 6100, Alpha 6400, Alpha 6600, Alpha 9, Alpha 9 II, and Alpha 7S III. Focal plane phase-detection is supported for lenses that do not have internal focus motors on the Alpha 7R IV and Alpha 6600."
Yes, looks like it is true. Sadly for me...
I’m hoping they decide to add a firmware update for the other models.
Should be able to increase camera compatibility with firmware updates plus compatibility with future bodies will be standard.
Mr Baz Reviews The only features they have is the “real time tracking” that they say they cannot be added to those other models. As far as a simple screw-drive function, it should not be difficult, especially since it takes a firmware update for those two top models to be adapted. I just don’t understand why the wait before the launch. We’ll see. I’m really hoping it’s a go!
Mr Baz Reviews Well for those who already have several of the lenses and put all their money into the a7riv body, leaving nothing for the GM lenses I think the focus tracking would be a great improvement especially with the portrait lenses)85 1.4 & the 135 1.8. and the 300 f2.8. I get the a7riv is not a action/sports body, but a wildlife hobbiest would be thrilled. As you said I think those with the older models would benefit best if they are slowly transitioning to all FE lenses.
This adapter can use for Sony A6000 and Sony A7RM2? Thanks
no.
Why is there no screw drive support for the a9? I miss my 135 Zeiss so much that I would've rebought it. Be our messenger PM-R, and tell them to support more cameras for the screw-mount design.
No video autofocus for motorless lenses!!
Well and the last thing - how can I understand, my Minolta 80-200 HS will not work with this adapter plus A7III.
sorry!!!
Is SSM screw drive?
No, ssm is electric drive.
SSM = (Super Sonic wave Motor)
SSM is Sony's "silent wave" = Nikon, or Canon's "USM."
First, thanks for your review..Nice pictures shot. But I was a bit shocked hearing you telling us that this is the first time ever that you can use old lenses and use their autofocus with a FE camera. Are you new to Sony? I wonder how you could miss the fact that the LA-EA4 already had a screwdrive connector ans YES, you CAN adapt old Minolta and Sony lenses with the old focusing system for autofocus to it. I use it frequently.
1. you could never use Real Time Tracking before now with LA-EA5. 2. You can now use screw-drive glass WITHOUT shooting through the mirror in the LA-EA4. You gain about 2/3rds a stop of light by not shooting through the pellical mirror. And, while I haven't been shooting all that long (2012), I sometimes know what I'm talking about :)
ok, now ypu're changing the story. You have never mentioned the mirror before or in your vid. I didn't want to offend you, but I just wondered why you did not mention the ea4. It's all fine buddy. I have to say, I wanted the la-ea5 really bad until i've found out that there's only a handful of lenses which the autofocus will actually work with. I could be wrong but as much as I could see, also not a single Minolta lens is AF supported. Which makes the new adapter really useless to me. Have you maybe had the chance to test the new adapter with legacy lenses and can you confirm this?
@@lebaptiste3162 From the research I have done every lens is supported, but only the high end camera's. A7R4, A6600 and A9II. Dig into the compactivity matrix again using those cameras.
And that's exactly the problem. I get no screw-drive AF with my a7RIII and a7III with this adapter which is Sony's way to tell to screw you if you're not willing to upgrade. Sad but true. I can only hope they make "older" cams compatible too.
I really don't know how I feel about this! I'm an original Sony shooter, right back from the A100, and I'm still shooting the A99ii, and have just discovered how amazing the focus tracking is on my new 500 F4 Sony (phenomenal!). I also have the Zeiss 85 1.4 (it is indeed a magnificent lens, but the purple fringing is terrible). I've held off on moving to E-mount for a number of reasons, one huge one being that I have a lot of glass that I couldn't really use all that well, but mostly really because I like the A-mount form factor so much better. While this adapter doesn't sort out the teeny little grip problem, it does seem like it might make the focussing even better on some of the lenses I have. This could drive the price up of some of my bucket list Sony A-mount lenses too. Hmmmm...
@@MrBazReviews The new body on the A7Riv seems like a move in the right direction at least, although I haven't physically held that one. I played with an A7iii a while ago and didn't like it at all. I think it's going to be a LONG time before the A99ii doesn't meet my needs though, so I've got a few years left to hope!
@@MrBazReviews I think we're on the exact same page. An A99iii and an A77iii would be incredible cameras, but the ii versions were also incredible cameras and no-one knew about them (I would put the A77ii up against any APS-C camera, only a couple in the last year or two would best it I think). I think Sony made the right choice for the company and put their eggs in the mirrorless basket, which has been a fantastic move for Sony, but a real shame for people who had the cameras and lament the line ending with them. A lot cheaper and easier to make an adapter than invest in a new body that potentially drags people away from their mirrorless line, but a shame for us!
@@MrBazReviews I could see it too, but I've never liked going with the norm (I wouldn't have chosen my first DSLR to be the A100 otherwise!), and the SSS was back then and still now a feature I don't like to do without at all. People don't really talk about the accessories and miscellaneous cost of switching systems completely either - eg. I now have 5 batteries that I can interchange between all my bodies, but to buy that many batteries in a new system would be way more than I could afford.
I really needed to upgrade from my A77ii though, as it had started freezing up on burst mode, and also for the dual card slots, so I could be completely confident when doing a big paid job I had coming up. I was lucky enough to get a really good deal 2nd hand on an a99ii, and I love it so much I think I would probably even purchase a 2nd one before I move to mirrorless! It's really like a fine-tuned A77ii, outstanding camera. Coming to grips with how good the hybrid focus is on my new 500 f4 (a lens I could have never dreamed of owning!) means I can't see me leaving for a long time!
have you tried the grip V4? It's SO much better than the prior three...
@@PMRTV Not yet, but that definitely seems like a good step forward. The A7C move back to even smaller seems scary as a step in the roadmap, although if they settle on the A7C size as a small version and A7Riv or bigger as a larger version that might be good.
Please does anybody know where I can buy the hat with the α logo?
Dear author - did you hear about La-Ea 4 adapter?
Of course he knows about it. I have that adapter and it is NOT as innovative as the LA-EA5.
With the LA-EA4 that has been available for YEARS, it has a very limited AF module from 2010 (similar to A33/A55) and performance is somewhat acceptable but not outstanding. All the focal plane focus point go to waste with the LA-EA4. Now this LA-EA5 is something that we dual A/E-mount shooters has been asking for years. It offers the capability to use focal plane focus point with non-SSM/SAM lenses. This is the final bridge between A and E-mount users.
He said - first time it is possible to connect those both worlds together. No, its not first time :) for example - Im using Sony Zeiss 16-35 2.8 ssm2 with la-ea3 and it is almost perfect - here is eye af etc. Quite nonpro guy.
yes, I used to own one...
@@Latvijasfans yeah, what do I know, I used to work for Sports Illustrated :) First time for RTT....
@@PMRTV then why you are using sentence "first time it is possible to connect both (a-mount + e-mount) worldrs...."? I'm not discussing about your qualification of making beautiful shots, just about objectivity. And would be great to understand why this adapter fully supports only 2 cameras. And kick little bit Sony's ass because of this unexplained sollution.
@2:45 'for the very first time'.. I guess people forget the LA-EA2 or LA-EA4...
I haven't. I use an LA-EA2 on my A6000 when for some reason I don't want to use my A77II. The AF capabilities of the LA-EA5 appear to be awesome compared the sometimes glacially slow focus speed I get out of the LA-EA2 with screw drive glass compared to my A77II
@@raisingninjababy1587 do check the compatibility.. there are only a few (modern) cameras that can use the screw motor in the la-ea5 at the moment. I believe only thr a7r m4 and the a6600. Otherwise it behaves like a la-ea3 which means it's useless for lenses without an internal af motor.
Sony has a compatibility page where you can select your body and then see all lenses (also minolta stuff) and what each adapter provides or doesn't provide.
I don't think most people understand the LA-EA4 🤷♂️
I have both LA-EA3 and LA-EA4 I actually bought the 4 before the 3..... So my question is how does it compare to the 4
@@jorismak correct!
Very smart move Sony! A-mounters, your old (seemingly worthless) lenses probably just tripled in Ebay value.
they were never worthless :D
Cool but modern glass is faster and corrected.
agreed!
Horizons. Level them.
Fields have a crown. I pretty much shoot what is actually there and am not bothered by the crown in the background--more concerned with getting THE moment and in focus but thanks for your thoughts :)
PM-R TV ...can be leveled in post.
Is there any estimated release date
But no autofocus in video...
"I'm using the A9-ii"... *shows A9*