Kabbalah, Occultism, Freemasonry and Jordan Peterson - Stop Being Silly

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  • In the wake of many attacks on Jordan Peterson, I look at the danger of reducing symbolic structures to their historical association with groups, schools of thinking and occult personalities.
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  • @JonathanPageau
    @JonathanPageau  Před 5 lety +470

    There are a few mistakes in the editing, for some reason, a few images pop up in random places and there is some blackscreen at the end. Sorry about that.

    • @rabbyssi4392
      @rabbyssi4392 Před 5 lety +20

      Jonathan Pageau I am a (self-proclaimed) occultist and I love your channel and videos! I think occultists are hostile to Christianity because the way Western Christians view the world is perceived as depraved and lacking of the intuitive symbolic understanding. On the other hand, many occultists fail to see the significance of Christian symbolism and remain complacent in whatever customized-symbolic-architecture they devise. Carl Jung was the dude who propelled me into this subtle way of seeing that the orthodox tradition does - though the christian perspective is more limited (imo, no offense).
      The sooner society sees that magic is necessarily embodied and projected from every soul, manipulated in our every action, and contained in every thing, the better. And I think you’re helping with that :) if you call it ‘God’ I’m okay with that... for the most part.

    • @JonathanPageau
      @JonathanPageau  Před 5 lety +31

      @Cole Panacci I have never banned anyone from my comment section. It must be youtube.

    • @michaelparsons3007
      @michaelparsons3007 Před 5 lety +22

      Jonathan Pageau you may want to edit out the random baphomet @ 16:22-23 and re-upload. The conspiracists will definitely have a field day seeing as it pops up right when you say “divine sparks of god”. I can hear them now, “He’s not even trying to hide it!” Etc etc.

    • @michaelparsons3007
      @michaelparsons3007 Před 5 lety +4

      Jonathan Pageau also I had to scroll way down the thread to see this comment so you may want to pin it to he top or some may miss it.

    • @kirkjohnson9353
      @kirkjohnson9353 Před 5 lety +9

      Those mistakes did not detract from this good video.

  • @chenanigans
    @chenanigans Před 3 lety +988

    He's basically saying just cause you think it means something doesn't mean it does. But the same can be said to him. Just cause you think it doesn't have any meaning doesn't mean it doesn't.

    • @kasrkin3521
      @kasrkin3521 Před 3 lety +73

      I agree, nice thinking btw.

    • @satuurn5245
      @satuurn5245 Před 3 lety +59

      I kept thinking that very thing throughout the video. A great example is the image from the end of "The Shining". Steven King is definitely a member of the club.

    • @OmegaF77
      @OmegaF77 Před 3 lety +126

      No, I think he is saying that you can't just simply assume meanings on symbols that have an intended meaning that you don't know of.

    • @HeavenUpsideDown
      @HeavenUpsideDown Před 3 lety +3

      Spot on!

    • @Veldtian1
      @Veldtian1 Před 3 lety +29

      @@OmegaF77 Well that's the definition of occulted knowledge, the question is why.

  • @romanengelbrecht6717
    @romanengelbrecht6717 Před 3 lety +536

    I went to the psychologist to treat my big ego
    I think it worked, I'm feeling much better than all of you today

    • @dischronic
      @dischronic Před 3 lety +22

      Your soul knows the shortest, safest route to your true destiny. Why is your ego behind the wheel?
      Anthon St. Maarten

    • @AdrianA-mo5qd
      @AdrianA-mo5qd Před 3 lety +3

      @@dischronic This quote although it seems brilliant, also seems to disqualify the ego, unless there is more to this quote.

    • @dischronic
      @dischronic Před 3 lety +11

      A tornado starts with a breeze. Congratulations.

    • @shiva_upasaka
      @shiva_upasaka Před 3 lety +1

      I honestly hope you don't think that whatever you are trying to express was clever or applicable in any way to this video. Do you people even get through secondary school before you learn how to type this dumb shit?

    • @romanengelbrecht6717
      @romanengelbrecht6717 Před 3 lety +2

      Roman Hunt cool name, it actually has everything to do with this videos if your brain cells worked

  • @itsHeatherKay
    @itsHeatherKay Před 2 lety +200

    Satan “recycles” Holy symbols and perverts them into a different meaning. The rainbow that Noah saw as a sign of God’s covenant (Holy) vs the rainbow now, etc. Satan cannot create anything new, he can only turn what is God’s creation towards evil ends.

    • @heliopolitan444
      @heliopolitan444 Před 2 lety

      ΙΑΛΔΑΒΑΟΘ

    • @Mettemeres
      @Mettemeres Před 2 lety

      what about rainbow now?

    • @thinkingofHim.
      @thinkingofHim. Před 2 lety +15

      @@Mettemeres it was a covenant between God and all living flesh on earth never to repeat the great flood.

    • @Mettemeres
      @Mettemeres Před 2 lety +10

      @@thinkingofHim. I mean y'all know that rainbows existed before Christianity? Right?

    • @krissierea4169
      @krissierea4169 Před 2 lety +12

      @@Mettemeres @thinking of Him. Yes we all know that, and so did God and Noah. Did you know that??

  • @michaelmaddux7375
    @michaelmaddux7375 Před 2 lety +70

    Watching a video on symbols while analyzing all of his symbols in the background.

  • @kurvinhein5486
    @kurvinhein5486 Před 5 lety +945

    Very Canadian.. “I’m going to get angry and rant, if that’s cool with you” 😆

    • @downeybill
      @downeybill Před 5 lety +24

      Well he's Quebecois so he's allowed to be rude, It's a bit like being half French half Canadian. But yeah, its is pretty outrageously polite to give an apologetic preamble before you rant.

    • @selihter
      @selihter Před 5 lety +3

      He🤣✌

    • @rickrudd
      @rickrudd Před 5 lety +3

      ***eh, buddy?***

    • @ironmantis25
      @ironmantis25 Před 4 lety +6

      @Mandatory Late Term Abortions for All DemoKKKrats Manners are important

    • @LanguageExpert-hg8do
      @LanguageExpert-hg8do Před 4 lety +6

      Seriously Canadians are the best

  • @passage2enBleu
    @passage2enBleu Před 3 lety +150

    "If the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness."
    Be conscious you may be in intellectual light while walking in spiritual darkness.

    • @94TheGr3mlin
      @94TheGr3mlin Před 3 lety +3

      The All is Mind; the Universe is Mental.
      All is one and one is All.
      Become the light in the darkness.
      Love it.
      🙏

    • @luciuschrist6929
      @luciuschrist6929 Před 3 lety +1

      The only light is darkness

    • @dewy330
      @dewy330 Před 3 lety +3

      They that sit in darkness saw a great light.

    • @koreshdabar-yhwh3588
      @koreshdabar-yhwh3588 Před 3 lety +20

      The intellectual intelligence of man is pure foolishness and nowhere close to true enlightenment that begins in the heart. The mind cannot have true enlightenment without the heart first being made new and brought into humility.

    • @koreshdabar-yhwh3588
      @koreshdabar-yhwh3588 Před 3 lety +17

      @@94TheGr3mlin Yeshua is the only pathway to that. Anything else is deception and lies. The fruit is the evidence of such.

  • @AZURAKAZ
    @AZURAKAZ Před 2 lety +21

    I remember a Christian video series called, "Hell's Bells"; which picked apart popular rock songs to find commonalities with Crowley's quote "do as thou wilt...".

    • @MarkCox21125150
      @MarkCox21125150 Před 22 dny +1

      Hells Bells: The Dangers of Rock & Roll. Eric Holmberg. Brought me to Christ actually. :)

    • @Vibeagain
      @Vibeagain Před 12 hodinami

      Special

  • @TheMimiorange
    @TheMimiorange Před 10 měsíci +16

    "As an orthodox Christian you're not allowed to be a freemason, you're not allowed to give your loyalty to "another secret" organisation." 😉

    • @grecopologist
      @grecopologist Před 3 měsíci +4

      One of the most important principals of the Masonic Fraternity is that each member is encouraged to put their religious tradition ahead of the fraternity.
      I teach classes to new Masons and we start by telling them that the answers they seek are found in their home religion.
      There should be no conflict of loyalty when our organization is specifically designed as support to the church.
      The roll of "secrets" is to teach the value of thinking before you speak and respecting the power of the word. Again a support to Christian thought and not a religion

    • @juliannkretonn4623
      @juliannkretonn4623 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It certainly doesnt seem to be very effective ​@grecopologist

    • @TheMimiorange
      @TheMimiorange Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@grecopologist​@grecopologist I had to watch it again to remember what I meant - you know, I didn't mean you have to be loyal - I guess I was referring to the "another secret organisation" as you said in the video. This means you call the church a "secret organisation".
      I'm not for or against anything. And I am with you regarding "drinking the blood and eating the flesh of Christ" is a magical practice. Actually I think the entire old Testament is occult magic. Just look at Deuteronomic. So in my opinion it's not that Christians should avoid masons - it's rather anyone should be aware that the church might not be what it seems to be. 🤗

    • @ao-111
      @ao-111 Před 3 měsíci

      @@grecopologist That is entirely irrelevant to the Orthodox position on Masonry, which at a very basic level includes a strong position against ecumenism and common prayer with the heterodox and heretics, to say nothing of deeper problems.

    • @GodmadeTrends
      @GodmadeTrends Před 3 měsíci

      @@grecopologistthat’s the trick

  • @Ratty2480
    @Ratty2480 Před 5 lety +153

    Video on the Occult: " Styxhexenhammer wants to know your location"

    • @terryl7855
      @terryl7855 Před 5 lety +23

      The clanking draws inexorably closer :)

    • @mostlydead3261
      @mostlydead3261 Před 5 lety +6

      They should do a friendly chat one of these days.

    • @s.topper9918
      @s.topper9918 Před 5 lety +29

      Christians watch Styx because he is a gifted and excellent political analyst.

    • @Ratty2480
      @Ratty2480 Před 4 lety +3

      @@s.topper9918 Jonathan and Styxs channels are me fav favs.

    • @HolyWisdom93
      @HolyWisdom93 Před 4 lety +18

      @@s.topper9918 If you're a so called Christian and you're afraid of the occult you would actually be a victim of the occult right there! Because Satan owns the fucking church, they have Psi powers that they get from Satan. The occult signifies the hidden laws of nature and the psyche and them getting you to fear that would be the point. It's like an alchemical coincedentia oppositorum.

  • @radaroreilly9502
    @radaroreilly9502 Před 4 lety +288

    Jordan Peterson turned my son into a cultist:
    First he cleaned his room,
    then he sacrificed a goat...

    • @radaroreilly9502
      @radaroreilly9502 Před 4 lety +19

      Mike B the goat was delicious too...

    • @chuckhuckle
      @chuckhuckle Před 4 lety +14

      curried goat is delicious.

    • @blank9354
      @blank9354 Před 4 lety +11

      I farted

    • @ryancasey4038
      @ryancasey4038 Před 4 lety +4

      Love the profile pic, M*A*S*H* is so underrated.

    • @James_Bee
      @James_Bee Před 4 lety +4

      @@ryancasey4038 In what world is M*A*S*H underrated?
      That show lasted longer than the war it was based in.
      Critically acclaimed.

  • @Urliamo
    @Urliamo Před 2 lety +22

    I think the best way to get your point across (which is a crucial point) is to consider symbols as words (which they are) and that words require context (the tone, the circumstances, a few more words stringed together) to get their meaning across.
    what's interesting is that by provoking fear, you can make people associate these primordial symbols with enough repulsion so that they will reject them altogether - unless you dress up these symbols in a fashion they are more accustomed to.

  • @justinbirkholz7814
    @justinbirkholz7814 Před 2 lety +201

    The misunderstanding of symbolism has been a source of much frustration for myself as well. I highly resonate with this video lol. Another point of frustration is the fact that literally all symbolism has been stripped away from modern Protestant Christianity so I can't even point to examples within my own sect and, as you know, in Christian circles anyone who isn't within your own tiny little sect might as well be straight-up worshipping the devil. 🤦‍♂ So this may or may not be helpful in changing any of their minds, but it was nice to see another Christian telling people to stop being silly and ignorant and think critically about the judgements they make.

    • @kaisertreu6276
      @kaisertreu6276 Před 2 lety +12

      Oh, so you're another Protestant watching videos on Christian symbolism. Nice :D
      Yeah sometimes it's hard to widen peoples perspective.

    • @sondrax
      @sondrax Před 11 měsíci +6

      Very funny…. ‘’might as well be worshiping Satan….” Ha! Much Truth is spoken in jest….

    • @acaydia2982
      @acaydia2982 Před 10 měsíci +5

      I completely agree. Jesus was very big on symbolism.
      I don’t see how people don’t see that.

    • @mbardfast6658
      @mbardfast6658 Před 10 měsíci

      Prof Vitch lays all of this down Brilliantly.

    • @jimcricket1
      @jimcricket1 Před 10 měsíci +4

      If it was silly satan would not be mentioned more times than Jesus in the new testament. The queen of heaven or astarte in the old testament is called easter in the new testament aka diana or Artemis of the Ephesians, semiramis or ishtar of Babylon, mother of tamuz. Do not be deceived.
      Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11

  • @seanwritesman4501
    @seanwritesman4501 Před 4 lety +73

    “If you see it one time, it means nothing, if you see it twice, it’s a coincidence, if you see it three times, it’s the culture”.

    • @omiorahman6283
      @omiorahman6283 Před 4 lety +5

      when does it become a meme

    • @factoryman28
      @factoryman28 Před 3 lety +27

      @@omiorahman6283 69 times.

    • @DavidD-yp6dh
      @DavidD-yp6dh Před 3 lety +1

      33 times lool

    • @je-freenorman7787
      @je-freenorman7787 Před 2 lety +1

      Cult-ure means, Your Worship. Cult is a Branch of War Ship and ure, refers to the effect of practice. Y is sometimes a vowel. Your / Ure and its backwards. So ure cult. is cultyour lol sea? Agri is field so Agri-cult-ure is Your field War ship. All re-ligion is Sa-tanic.

    • @SonofJesus14
      @SonofJesus14 Před 2 lety +1

      No such thing as coincidence.

  • @myriamgrimard4699
    @myriamgrimard4699 Před 10 měsíci +22

    I grew up in the same culture, there is much I love about the heritage I received such as hymns and theology, but a lot of subjects were labeled as demonic and perhaps it is because my parents were first generation Christians who were reacting, like a pendulum, to the French Canadian Catholic overreaching religion of the day. Anyways, in my classical education journey I have been digging and discovering Ancient Art, Medieval Fine Arts and Music, even stories of the Saints (which were a no no when I grew up) and as we remove the layers of misunderstanding we come to see beauty, depth, and symbols we did not understand before. Thanks for the rant, I relate!

    • @justusbagwaijohn
      @justusbagwaijohn Před 6 měsíci

      Today while headed to my place of work, I was praying. In the thoughtful expression, I began to realize the gift of so many things that have happened to me, like the gifts of pain and suffering, the gift of the dry season in Nigerian and raining season, the gift of my confusions that have brought me the hunger for wisdom. All of these, i have just watched and read from you also brings me to the appreciation of so much symbols mean if we are careful enough to ask for clarity. thanks for your work and thoughts Pageau and this very comment.

  • @legendoftheland7296
    @legendoftheland7296 Před 2 lety +6

    This really helped me, thank you. May your content flourish.

  • @thetruth1394
    @thetruth1394 Před 4 lety +172

    “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”
    ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:11‬ ‭KJV

  • @JP_AZ
    @JP_AZ Před 4 lety +338

    Remember: The evil one likes to mimic a/o mock God the saints and Christianity. So any symbolic similarities are to be expected...

    • @TonyChev
      @TonyChev Před 4 lety +61

      The enemy has to use truth and then twist it. The enemy is a creature, not a creator. His only power is in corrupting. Unlike the Lord, he cannot create. He perverts holy things. These things used properly are not evil in themselves!

    • @carpenoctem9519
      @carpenoctem9519 Před 4 lety +11

      @winford evad you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink... if these guys dont know that for themselves by 2020 its their fault. Religion is a fuckin disease

    • @Ykpaina988
      @Ykpaina988 Před 4 lety +23

      @winford evad Christianity was not created it was Revealed in fullfillment of the scriptures

    • @Ykpaina988
      @Ykpaina988 Před 4 lety +3

      The ancient scriptures of Jewish Torah

    • @Ykpaina988
      @Ykpaina988 Před 4 lety +3

      BEING ITSELF Reveals that Christianity is true biologically and symbolically Occultism is not evil when it is incorporated into christianity like mathematics build on previous knowledge

  • @comandanteuldo8261
    @comandanteuldo8261 Před 9 měsíci +2

    One must remember that the enemy is always twisting things, a lot of sacred and good symbolism have been twisted by the enemy.

  • @tarik1845
    @tarik1845 Před 11 měsíci +4

    “These aren’t the droids you are looking for”
    Yeah right Jedi. I see you.

    • @shanefelkel9966
      @shanefelkel9966 Před 2 měsíci

      These aren't the druids you are looking for.
      Of course. Ave Caesar. Carry on.

  • @joseph1964
    @joseph1964 Před 4 lety +229

    Molech has just been installed in the highest and most well-traveled place on Earth, the Roman Colosseum. That is some strange symbolism right there for the church to 'show off'.

    • @conspiracycornerpodcast4302
      @conspiracycornerpodcast4302 Před 4 lety +10

      I made a video of that last year. Crazy stuff.

    • @conspiracycornerpodcast4302
      @conspiracycornerpodcast4302 Před 4 lety +17

      @Mike Morbuk they're not hiding stuff anymore

    • @HabitualConsolation
      @HabitualConsolation Před 4 lety +10

      It was a statue from a famous Italian movie and the Vatican didn't have much to do with it, stop being paranoid

    • @joseph1964
      @joseph1964 Před 4 lety +40

      @@HabitualConsolation Tell it to Mother Miriiam - Pope’s proposal, ‘new humanism’, would ‘wipe out Christianity’.
      Pope Francis and the Vatican - hoodwinking the masses!
      “The evil has entered into the Church, and it has been bought by the very pope himself and the hierarchy.” www.lifesitenews.com/news/popes-proposal-for-new-humanism-would-wipe-out-christianity

    • @stephenwillis5699
      @stephenwillis5699 Před 4 lety +4

      @@joseph1964 the Roman Catholic church is Esau's Jacobs brother Esau was a indecriminate killer also perverted read the TORAH

  • @GameFunHQ
    @GameFunHQ Před 5 lety +118

    Im just here to read the comments accusinfg tou of being illuminati.

    • @RunninUpThatHillh
      @RunninUpThatHillh Před 5 lety +9

      That accusation is so..2011.😂

    • @lightninginmyhands4878
      @lightninginmyhands4878 Před 5 lety +8

      ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

    • @zevyzevness3800
      @zevyzevness3800 Před 5 lety +1

      Why do so many people like this comment!! You people are sooo fucking boring!!!! Yeah the Illuminati doesn’t exist..... drrrrr

    • @raygartargaryen5927
      @raygartargaryen5927 Před 5 lety +3

      zevyzev ness well, to be honest they did exist long ago. The problem is, they are long dead now. And had nowhere near the power that is implied by conspiracy buffs.

    • @marcspade_pipes
      @marcspade_pipes Před 5 lety

      @@raygartargaryen5927 preach.

  • @Witsius
    @Witsius Před 11 měsíci +3

    Thus the problem with iconography and symbolism. You illustrate this.

  • @IAMRYGAR
    @IAMRYGAR Před 9 měsíci

    can you do deeper on the two snakes symbolism, I always associated the two snakes rising up the spine to represent kundalini. I saw Christ's crucifixion as one snake rose up just like the story in the OT. but when another snake gets added I always associated It with kundalini , can you go more into kundalini?

  • @lhasa7
    @lhasa7 Před 5 lety +49

    "A thin line separates enlightened ideation from paranoid ideation, the crucial difference being that synchronicity is correctly understood in the first case and consistently misinterpreted in the second."-Art Kleps

    • @MrMadalien
      @MrMadalien Před 5 lety +3

      Thank you, I have paranoid tendencies when it comes to symbolism (particularly modern uses of symbolism in the corporate environment) and this quote is helpful

    • @RSanchez111
      @RSanchez111 Před 5 lety +4

      Jordan Peterson once said something along similar lines to differentiate himself from new age types, paraphrasing: New age types are very open to new ideas but lack critical thinking; I have critical thinking.

    • @RSanchez111
      @RSanchez111 Před 5 lety +4

      @Jared Emry if Peterson has any Vivekananda, it's more likely through Jung's study of eastern mysticism than through Joseph Campbell. Peterson puts Campbell more in the new age camp, criticizing his "follow your bliss" philosophy.

    • @lyt_w8t
      @lyt_w8t Před 5 lety

      omg lhasa7 I think that constitutes at least 50% of the people who believe they are "targeted individuals".

    • @lyt_w8t
      @lyt_w8t Před 5 lety

      @Big Brained Fedora Tippa I only said 50%! I didn't say the whole thing wasn't true! much respect

  • @MrMaxBoivin
    @MrMaxBoivin Před 5 lety +267

    "I believe I could write a better book criticizing Jordan Peterson"
    Do it!
    Please, I would buy that book.

    • @battleowl3517
      @battleowl3517 Před 5 lety +7

      Second that

    • @yassinemotaouakkil3530
      @yassinemotaouakkil3530 Před 5 lety +7

      I third that?

    • @ScottAT
      @ScottAT Před 5 lety +19

      Not happy with him either. U.N. Globalist who says “you don’t want to wake conservatives up”....

    • @ScottAT
      @ScottAT Před 5 lety +10

      jay Yes, I have seen parts of these various videos. I didn’t know people broke it down though-that’s tantamount to hatespeech to his followers. If you are conservative, he wants you drinking canned beer and watching sitcoms.

    • @Hitlerbaddaringood
      @Hitlerbaddaringood Před 5 lety +12

      @@ScottAT You think we WANT to worry about freaking gender pronouns???? As a conservative - please, PLEASE just let us go back to delicious American canned beer and our canned sitcoms.

  • @atmalewis1768
    @atmalewis1768 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Much needed message at this time! Thank you❤

  • @BermondsayBattler
    @BermondsayBattler Před 9 měsíci +3

    There's always an exoteric and an esoteric meaning. But the evil forces delight in your acceptance of it as "silly and innocent" as a way to clear themselves of any guilt because they view silence as consent.
    Maybe those same symbols are used in those places precisely BECAUSE of that? What better place to hide than right out in the open.

  • @claycon
    @claycon Před 4 lety +7

    Very good. I like how you explain yourself and identify obvious counterpoints and address those- then jump right back on track with your thought. This technique can be hard to do without spinning off into a tangent.

  • @RogerTheil
    @RogerTheil Před 5 lety +27

    "All these squares make a circle"
    Did...Did Popo in DBZ Abridged transcend esoteric understanding on that acid trip?

    • @stevefoxrox
      @stevefoxrox Před 5 lety +10

      To think there was another DBZ abridged fan that enjoy's the Pageau

    • @MrFaberJack
      @MrFaberJack Před 5 lety +6

      @@stevefoxrox make it two

    • @ficklebar
      @ficklebar Před 5 lety +4

      Three

    • @ShoRyuBarbie
      @ShoRyuBarbie Před 5 lety +4

      @@stevefoxrox They're basically the same thing as far as I'm concerned.

    • @majinbahamut3985
      @majinbahamut3985 Před 5 lety +4

      Make it 4...

  • @NiVinters
    @NiVinters Před 9 měsíci +1

    Been a while since I've heard a healthy counter point. Thank you for applying your time in a respectful manner.
    Please keep up the good work as an intellectual.

  • @myfyrioleremiticus
    @myfyrioleremiticus Před rokem +1

    I regret that I'm just now finding this video so many years afterwards. Excellent!

  • @agaperion
    @agaperion Před 3 lety +149

    I summarize it like this: Context creates meaning.
    Also, yes, please do another one of these. Even a whole series would be cool.

    • @covermaiden
      @covermaiden Před 3 lety +4

      I will go further: memory creates meaning.

    • @coehfelipe
      @coehfelipe Před 2 lety

      Up

    • @9hawk16
      @9hawk16 Před rokem +1

      @@covermaiden pattern recognition creates meaning which leads to truth.

    • @Blissblizzard
      @Blissblizzard Před rokem +1

      @@9hawk16 or a false positive

    • @jayoven3670
      @jayoven3670 Před rokem +1

      You clearly haven't read Jung.
      There's objective meaning mechanisms to the human psyche.
      Called "archetypes" of the unconscious.

  • @Geep1778
    @Geep1778 Před 4 lety +129

    anyone who wants a good idea of what these groups are really like, watch the man behind the curtain in the wizard of oz... it’s all a show to instill fear in order to maintain control and their level of power

    • @shunter4826
      @shunter4826 Před 3 lety +14

      The United States government is behind the green curtain.

    • @skyjack8541
      @skyjack8541 Před 3 lety

      Please tell us something we don't know. Heard it a billion times. Besides, who cares.

    • @panosa7789
      @panosa7789 Před 3 lety +18

      @@skyjack8541 😅who cares?
      I love that one. “Stop thinking about this stuff and just enjoy your life”.... I hear that a fair bit.
      I have such a difficult time understanding people that can recognize the issue but aren’t willing to talk about it.

    • @AshJae
      @AshJae Před 3 lety +17

      Except it's not really a show, they actually do extremely wicked disgusting things behind closed doors, that's why people are legit afraid, they have demonic spirits running through them

    • @AshJae
      @AshJae Před 3 lety +9

      Thank God we have ultimate power and authority through Christ Jesus alone. They do everything they can to distract us from that fact and to keep us bogged down in our own sin. We still rise and win at the end of the age. All glory to Him! Who saves

  • @smiley8668
    @smiley8668 Před 9 měsíci +2

    There is in fact, symbols in everything we see, use and hear. Most of the symbols are not there for just any reason. They are clues and markers telling a story that only those who know will know. If we study the nature and use of the things around us, we have a deep understanding that cannot be denied.

  • @grahampovey8073
    @grahampovey8073 Před 10 měsíci +10

    We must always be suspicious of secrecy!....particularly within government and religion.

  • @jakem1tanker
    @jakem1tanker Před 4 lety +287

    Newsflash buddy they’re not using the symbols in a good way

    • @merikijiya13
      @merikijiya13 Před 4 lety +10

      Jake Alexander Well the satanic temple using the baphomet statue as a symbol for justice and equality. That’s good.

    • @merikijiya13
      @merikijiya13 Před 4 lety +7

      glockster I just explained that the use the statue as a symbol of justice and equality. How is justice and equality a bad thing? You perspective of Satan is not the only perspective that exist remember that. I for one am a member of the satanic temple and I assure you Satan does not equal bad to us.

    • @merikijiya13
      @merikijiya13 Před 4 lety +5

      glockster because that’s what the symbol of Satan means. Besides it’s more than that but all of it is in line with satanism because of the view of Satan. The character who represents going against arbitrary authority, much like the way Satan oppose Yahweh. The character who does not shy away from inquirie, much like when Satan question Yahweh when everyone else said don’t question him. The character who attempts to show equality and justice which opposes Yahweh’s vision of women being under man and the unjust decision he makes in the book. If you want more information about this perspective you can visit the satanic temple website.

    • @merikijiya13
      @merikijiya13 Před 4 lety +2

      glockster explain?

    • @merikijiya13
      @merikijiya13 Před 4 lety +3

      glockster yes we do not believe in a literal Satan or anything superstitious. We take the character and what he represents and set a philosophy around it. It is no gimmick or joke we as an organization have already put our ideas into practice showing it isn’t a joke. America says we should all have religious liberty correct? So if a public place wants to promote Christianity than it should be aloud to promote satanism as well. And if it doesn’t then leave religion out of public places period. This is clearly a course equality and if not that then justice.
      And no I do not get paid I genuinely believe in the cause of educating others about scientific advancements and eliminating superstitious thinking without evidence. Nothing there is a lie. We most definitely wish to protect children as I see it forcing children to join Christianity at a young as is wrong.

  • @KRISTJANsful
    @KRISTJANsful Před 5 lety +274

    Would you be prepared to have some kind of podcast or video conversation with Jordan Peterson and discuss the points that you disagree on? I sincerely believe it would be beneficial to both your audience, you and Dr. Peterson.

    • @arono9304
      @arono9304 Před 5 lety +10

      Yes please! Constructive instead of obstructive feedback :)

    • @yassinemotaouakkil3530
      @yassinemotaouakkil3530 Před 5 lety +5

      @one two amen, or at least some submission grappling, can we make it a standard?

    • @cryptaker
      @cryptaker Před 5 lety +2

      They've already had a conversation its on one of their channels

    • @lightninginmyhands4878
      @lightninginmyhands4878 Před 5 lety +15

      Jordan will not discuss this. He’s too busy “running circles” around Sam Harris. That was tiresome and was a big reason I lept off the lobster train. I even bought 12 Rules too.
      Read Vox Day.

    • @selihter
      @selihter Před 5 lety

      I'd like to watch!

  • @Ninja9JKD
    @Ninja9JKD Před 9 měsíci

    Glad to see someone a bit more nuanced. Too many people speak with limited knowledge, trapped in polarized perspective... they need to take a good logic/reasoning class

  • @jeremytaylorfrancisgleaves3854

    hey, I just started down this part these last few years so I am excited to find just about three years ago you uploaded this and that apparently I saw this before cause I have two other comments I see here

  • @SupaJ777
    @SupaJ777 Před 4 lety +4

    You clarified something I've been wondering about. Thy will be done vs My will be done. I'd like to hear more about this. Thanks.

  • @amadeus8802
    @amadeus8802 Před 4 lety +39

    "supporting the occult" by demystifying it... Who was that genius?

  • @beauwhitlock5034
    @beauwhitlock5034 Před 10 měsíci

    I can’t find your spiderverse on your list of videos. Can you post a link please?

  • @ntsopoul
    @ntsopoul Před 7 měsíci +1

    Please someone tell me the font that is byzantine style but latin letters

  • @RogerTheil
    @RogerTheil Před 5 lety +13

    Great topic! But did you have to post it 5 minutes before I go into work? 😥

  • @uglydolI
    @uglydolI Před 4 lety +277

    I feel like this went no where

    • @INNR-G
      @INNR-G Před 4 lety +6

      Thomas warhurst I was going to say if you want real occult symbolism, check out Bro Sanchez! but then I looked at your channel and I saw that you liked some of his videos already. Lol 👏👏💯☺️

    • @richardwendling4030
      @richardwendling4030 Před 4 lety +8

      Bingo, that is why they call it spin!

    • @BGdroopy
      @BGdroopy Před 4 lety +16

      There is always something to learn. U weren’t paying attention if you walked away with nothing.

    • @NikolaAvramov
      @NikolaAvramov Před 4 lety +3

      He's just slandering this man:
      czcams.com/video/7ZpTKJDg_kE/video.html

    • @propheticpig868
      @propheticpig868 Před 4 lety +2

      Exactly.

  • @PaulRezaei
    @PaulRezaei Před 2 lety +107

    This info is useful to me. Recently I was counting the exercise reps of one of my clients. His first set he did 6 reps. His second set he did 6 reps again. On his third set, I initially thought I wanted him to do any amount of reps other than 6 to avoid three sets of 6 (666). Then I reminded myself that that number is not inherently evil. I have to look at the context in which it is being used. In this case, just an simple workout with no spiritual message.

    • @r.c4914
      @r.c4914 Před 2 lety +12

      @@mihailhidler5400 The problem is many people dont believe that the devil exist and you by using this number the way you do is goin to make the ignorant or unstable fall .
      Just like the occult actually when they help the community 😄 they are
      trying to justify they aren't harmful .
      Talking about being deceived or either taking advantage of ignorace .
      I dont think is a number we should be using if we are so called belivers
      unless by random not of your fault.

    • @ratchow6338
      @ratchow6338 Před 2 lety +12

      As far as I know, the Waldenses, some of the first christians, didn't have any mystical private rituals or symbolism. They didn't even want Jesus on a cross hung in their home. The children would spend all their time learning the Bible from front to back to go and teach others. Catholicism added the symbolism. Symbolism is created by man to divide themselves from other men. I'd say that would be kinda evil.

    • @varvarvarvarvarvar
      @varvarvarvarvarvar Před rokem

      ​@@ratchow6338 History gets really murky the further you go from our own lifetimes. The existence of cagots is shrouded in mystery. They wore a "goose foot" badge which clearly looks like a red cross yet they were untouchables. How did it come to be? Only speculations. It isn't clear how the fighting word "cretin" could get so much use considering it's a shorthand for "christian". Spain was apparently Muslim, but then once it became Christian, they started expelling "new Christians." And we get the important word "admiral" from them, which is an Arabic loan word. The numbers we use are not Roman numerals. A lot of odd stuff on the edges of the official history. If you want to gain clarity by going through the academic canon and its timeline, chances are you won't find it. I think real history looked a lot more like the modern world, similar to how the real world looks different from the romantic soap operas they used to show on TV. Never belittle the truths about the world that you have personally experienced. The modern Muslims are the most iconoclastic people on the planet btw.

    • @zolod.uchiha5102
      @zolod.uchiha5102 Před rokem

      Interesting enough 6 is not so much a Satanic number but more of “Mans” number or human kind. We were born on the 6th day for example and I believe the by product for melanin ( specifically black, and sometimes Hispanics, Natives, and Indians) is 666. The Devil honestly just used are on egos and pride against us to essentially praise ourselves over God (Logos) which is the real reason why the number became a problem. 666 is literally self worship.

    • @joshvarges9230
      @joshvarges9230 Před rokem

      @@ratchow6338 when?

  • @philbutcher6959
    @philbutcher6959 Před rokem +1

    Superb video. I know a lot of people who are dangerously interested in Freemasonry, thinking they are opposed to it, but seem to be doing outreach for them unbeknownst themselves. Did everyone else get the 'Context' warning from CZcams? What are the worried about on this one?

  • @carlawebster848
    @carlawebster848 Před 4 lety +17

    Symbolism in itself is just a visual representation of a belief system that in itself is neither good nor evil. I believe it's the intent of the person/people behind the symbol or action that makes the difference & gives it, it's meaning.

    • @timdevolldable
      @timdevolldable Před 4 lety +2

      Well said

    • @dominicksebastien2254
      @dominicksebastien2254 Před 3 lety +1

      Those are "signs" like road signs, they are visual representation of something they are not, they are coded meaning.
      But symbols are something that creates new reality.
      So, what you are saying is true but in the context of signs.

    • @nigelmushonga3772
      @nigelmushonga3772 Před 3 lety +2

      No, a symbol is a microcosm of reality, a visual representation of something that is real, condensed in a way that is easily understood by the mind

  • @SturFriedBrains
    @SturFriedBrains Před 3 lety +43

    That's comforting to know that snakes aren't always evil. When I joined the US Army and realized our crest has a talking snake saying "this we'll defend" on it and I learned that a lot of the symbolism came from Washington who was supposedly a free mason I had some suspicions (only thing that kept me thinking the opposite of what seemed to be true was true was that special operations, ie Special Forces being referred to as "snake eaters" or SEALs being referred to as "frog men" reminds me of Jordan Peterson's lectures about Marduk fighting Tiamat (snake eater) and your convo with JBP about the metaphysics of Pepe and how frogs are similar to jesters in representing a thing surviving in chaos, in the upside down world, and a harbinger of the correction.)

    • @grantrogers1858
      @grantrogers1858 Před rokem +8

      To add to it, not with any bias, in Exodus, God judges Egypt by sending frogs "But if you refuse to let them go, behold, I will plague all your country with frogs." Also revelation frogs are associated with evil spirits "And I saw, coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs." (Revelation 16:13)

    • @ImNotJoshPotter
      @ImNotJoshPotter Před 10 měsíci +4

      There's something in scripture, (sorry I'm probably not going to get this exactly right) that says, "be as innocent as doves and as wise as sepernts."
      I think it could also help to read the story of St. Paisios and his snake friend.

    • @TheSopheom
      @TheSopheom Před 9 měsíci

      If you ever visit D.C the whole place is ripe with Freemasonic symbols. Our founding fathers had a plan for this country and it is written about extensively. That being said, wrestling with the snake often symbolizes taming the animal nature within. Well written about in older texts, described as Kundalini.

    • @edwardblanc657
      @edwardblanc657 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Who told you that snakes are evil?
      Why is it that the goal of the snake in the Garden of Eden, is the same result that we see in the Book of Revelation?
      These people do exactly what is said in 2 Corinthians 3:14. Their eyes are blinded when reading the Old Testament. They fail to see that the motivation of Jesus is the same as the motivation of the snake in Eden.
      The intention was to understand morality, but when we began to understand morality and gain knowledge, we were murdered by the Self Proclaimed Imposter God who stole immortality from us. He is the one who fell from Heaven to Earth. The same one spoken of by the angel in Revelation 12:12.
      What did Jesus say about "the murderer from the beginning? Read John 8:44. Better yet, read the whole chapter for context.
      Jesus tells the Pharisees what is written in "their laws". He talks about the difference between "their father" and "my father".
      The Father in Heaven is not the God of the Old Testament. The God of the Old Testament is obsessed with sacrifice and bloodshed. Whereas the Father in Heaven sent his own Son to be a Sacrifice here on Earth.
      We have been lied to, and it becomes really obvious when you see all the murder and bloodshed in the old testament and compare it to what Jesus actually said.
      Intention. Motivation. Purpose.
      Faith. Hope. Love.
      Serpents are not evil. Our founding fathers even talked about this when we chose the Eagle over the Snake.
      "Don't tread on me." But now we have a Eagle clutching a Snake as our nation's mascot.
      The war between the Eagle and the Serpent is real. Just look throughout all of history and you will see the Eagles Wings as a Herald for Death and Destruction.
      Snakes are venerated as being wise and healers. Even in the Bible the Jews are healed by looking at a bronze serpent. The Biblical text is full of contradictions because it was monopolized and tainted by the Roman Catholics for 1500 years.
      Thank God for Luther. We would be screwed without him... Yet even now, so many are still blind to the truth.

    • @amandajones4549
      @amandajones4549 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ImNotJoshPotterbecause Enki is the Serpent in Edin. He is the one to help Eve and Adam gain wisdom!😊

  • @thomasjorge4734
    @thomasjorge4734 Před rokem +2

    History gives ground and firm foundation, but cannot explain nor limit Mystery. Mystery does not deny nor can it erase History.

  • @AlastorTheNPDemon
    @AlastorTheNPDemon Před 10 měsíci +3

    Went to a Pride event in my city yesterday. The host's surname was "Biomet".
    🌛😈 🐐 🌜?

  • @sgtpaloogoo2811
    @sgtpaloogoo2811 Před 3 lety +13

    By their fruits you shall know them.

  • @lovesegarra497
    @lovesegarra497 Před 5 lety +123

    Jordan Peterson always tries to reel in his discussion witb "As I see it" or my opinion is...yes he has a message but you dont have to agree with him. He doesnt want laws forcing you to agree with him.

    • @NikolaAvramov
      @NikolaAvramov Před 5 lety +15

      No, he just wants money and political power based on the illusion that he's a postmodern dissident.

    • @ThomasDoubting5
      @ThomasDoubting5 Před 5 lety +18

      This is true... He openly wants people to debate him and question him because it's how he improves himself and other people improve themselves... I like that about him although at the same time he boil me sometimes but in a way I get to understand something about myself

    • @NikolaAvramov
      @NikolaAvramov Před 5 lety +10

      @@ThomasDoubting5
      When has Peterson ever debated someone with expert knowledge, ready to call him out for selling watered-down info that he labels as "academic"?

    • @thefiremanscomin
      @thefiremanscomin Před 5 lety +4

      @@NikolaAvramov everyone wants money...

    • @NikolaAvramov
      @NikolaAvramov Před 5 lety +6

      @@thefiremanscomin
      And not everyone is willing to con people to get it.

  • @sirpoppinchuck
    @sirpoppinchuck Před 9 měsíci

    The main question is "what does it all mean?" Evidently all these different symbols, fraternal orders, orgs.,belief systems, cultures have a common thread. What is it that unites them in mystery or secrecy?

  • @IAmCharJ24
    @IAmCharJ24 Před 9 měsíci

    Sometimes "pearls before swine". Unconditional Love only!

  • @manfredarcane9130
    @manfredarcane9130 Před 5 lety +6

    Any thoughts on Valentin Tomberg? Kinda relevant. I saw him mentioned in the comments below your videos every now and then, but I never saw your address any of writings.

  • @kenwoodburn7438
    @kenwoodburn7438 Před 10 měsíci +4

    In 2019 I wouldn't have paid any attention to this video. It's now 2023 and I see the wickedness that rules the world has seeped unnoticed throughout history. This symbols are not random. These leaders all know exactly what they mean. They are using the Apocalypse of John as an instruction manual.

  • @charliechristian1097
    @charliechristian1097 Před 2 lety

    Wondering your thoughts on Sola scriptura, cessationism vs. Continuationism, bethel church and the radical charismatic movement, and sort of an elaboration on your thoughts concerning eschatology

  • @duranbailiff5337
    @duranbailiff5337 Před 3 lety +3

    I am new to your channel, so forgive a dumb question. Have you done anything on the imagery and symbolism in Albrecht Durer's art? Thanks in advance for your reply!

  • @bleedinggumsroberts3579
    @bleedinggumsroberts3579 Před 4 lety +11

    I'm so glad I finally clicked this video.

  • @mclaughlinjames7
    @mclaughlinjames7 Před 2 lety +10

    An unfortunate possible consequence of this great argument might be the further alienation of the West from Eastern Christianity. Your case, Jonathan, was typically that these images are found not merely in occult circles, but within Orthodox and Catholic symbolism as well. Many Evangelicals, no doubt, will take that to mean that the traditional churches are part of the occult as well.

    • @leondbleondb
      @leondbleondb Před rokem +1

      Indeed.

    • @richlisola1
      @richlisola1 Před 5 měsíci

      The Church is split and with good reason. Dissimilar strains of interpretation of the Bible and the Gospel have forwarded to such a degree, that in some cases even the core beliefs are interpreted differently-For example, Catholics believe that transubstantiation of Christ’s body and blood is core doctrine. Whereas most Protestants see the body and the blood as a purely symbolic affirming of Jesus Christ’s life sacrifice-Between a Catholic and a Protestant these may be insurmountable unlikeness in belief.

  • @eriklaurenmayle
    @eriklaurenmayle Před 11 měsíci +1

    Jack Chick was the OG in the Bible Baptist game. Gotta love the irony of it all.

  • @shoconno
    @shoconno Před 5 lety +37

    Matthieu Pageau really needs to join in on these great talks! I feel he would've contributed greatly to this wonderful rant :)

    • @je-freenorman7787
      @je-freenorman7787 Před 2 lety

      Its unfortunate to see people like this man still protecting our oppressors with false beliefs. All religion is Satanic. Its not a question sorry. Its the Truth.

  • @justiceforsethrichwwg1wga160

    Don’t you just love how Google makes sure to highlight the “official narrative” on certain videos?..
    #DarkToLight

    • @matthewhardy7154
      @matthewhardy7154 Před 3 lety +2

      Ironically, darknesstolight is a freemasonic tracing board, and Trump is Crowleys Moonchild created in Babalon Working...

    • @valdasdr8432
      @valdasdr8432 Před 2 lety +3

      @@matthewhardy7154 could you expand or point me to the right direction to read more? I was a huge Trump advocate but nowadays I have a feeling he might be in the club too.

    • @noneofyourbusiness4159
      @noneofyourbusiness4159 Před 2 lety

      @@valdasdr8432 czcams.com/video/7Eeo-82Eac8/video.html
      There are books referenced in the video you can try searching for online so you can see if you can do your own research and read from the books yourself I have yet to go through all the works cited myself so idk how factual any of it is but I do like that he referenced things directly with screenshots from the book and the page which you can read through out the video

    • @valdasdr8432
      @valdasdr8432 Před 2 lety +1

      @@noneofyourbusiness4159 thank you very much

    • @valdasdr8432
      @valdasdr8432 Před 2 lety +1

      @@noneofyourbusiness4159 Oh I've seen this video. The thing that makes me doubt the most about Trump is that he's so eager to push obviously evil vaccines.

  • @diegominero29
    @diegominero29 Před 2 lety +4

    I am catholic (currently also exploring other chistian religions) and I have always been interesting in the symbolisms in general... at this point I think symbols have true power, and I think symbols are a tool and a language, therefore they are not good nor bad on themselves, but they can be used by many different people with many different intentions, and they can be use for noble and sacred purpouses but also for eveil ones (even for foolish ones)... It's not much different, oversimplificating, as the alphabet: you can use the letters to write a prayer and to write a blasphemy... Saying "hey! that prayer has two letter A, just like this blashphemy!" it does not mean the prayer is actually evil and it does not mean the blasphemy is actually good, it just mean you are looking at two different individuals, using a powerful tool to exhalt different mindsets...

  • @Ottospiritual
    @Ottospiritual Před 3 lety +1

    This videos concept is very important because people tend to mesh symbolism and we try to objectively categorize different ideologies through historical comparisons. The symbol is directional stimulus to a certain degree but it’s important to remain open to nuance. Myself included.

  • @theLittle726
    @theLittle726 Před 5 lety +30

    There are some idiots out there, but you know the main points of critique towards JBP is not his use of symbols relevant to certain ideologies, but his actual ideas reflecting that of those ideologies. For instance his emphasis on chaos mirroring that of the Ein Sof or his obsession with individualism resembling enlightenment capitalist atomization.

    • @hugehairyfetus
      @hugehairyfetus Před 5 lety +1

      Can you please go into more detail on these points? I find these avenues of criticism more interesting than usual.

    • @user-kw9hg9o
      @user-kw9hg9o Před 5 lety +5

      "his obsession with individualism resembling enlightenment capitalist atomization"
      He explicitly said he doesn't believe there's such a thing as atomic individualism,or that there's anything wrong with belonging to a group,or that he doesn't support collective effort,etc.

    • @theLittle726
      @theLittle726 Před 5 lety +7

      @@user-kw9hg9o Why does he say organizing by race is marxist identity politics then?

    • @user-kw9hg9o
      @user-kw9hg9o Před 5 lety +10

      @@theLittle726
      Because attempts at ethnocentrism are usually made by people who dupe themselves into avoiding responsibility for their own lives and feeding their self worth by endlessly pointificating about the negatives of this or that group of people, instead of focusing in their individual growth and then creating meaningful change from that.Identitarianism.
      He sees racial politics as the same "us vs them" mentality that destroyed the soviets inside out and that's destroying the West presently,or at the very least he feels like further segregation can only do more damage.That's why he's desperately trying to establish some kind of equilibrium between the right and the left for example,or the pendulum will just keep swinging between the two extremes forever.
      There's more nuance to the (counter) argument,obviously,I'm just describing his ideas.

    • @villiestephanov984
      @villiestephanov984 Před 5 lety

      @@user-kw9hg9o : you do not and cannot understand Peterson' ideas nor the lack thereof in his case.

  • @odinsmeadhorn196
    @odinsmeadhorn196 Před 4 lety +66

    I'm glad there is a world of people digging for the answers, you're bound to find something as long as you keep looking.

    • @je-freenorman7787
      @je-freenorman7787 Před 2 lety +1

      We always ask questions to learn. We make mistakes and ask for forgiveness. We always let go of our beliefs for the knowledge.

    • @ShawnJonesHellion
      @ShawnJonesHellion Před 2 lety

      not if all. you do is watch tv an Jyoutube an read their books.
      youll have all the excuse to be a bot posing as a living creature
      aka human

    • @MiddlePath33
      @MiddlePath33 Před rokem +2

      “Don’t try to find the answers… when there ain’t no question here. Brother, let your heart be wounded. And give no mercy to your fears.” - Ed Kowalczyk

    • @odinsmeadhorn196
      @odinsmeadhorn196 Před rokem

      @@ShawnJonesHellion I guess the same could be said about anyone's posts, pot.

  • @alexcreswell
    @alexcreswell Před 10 měsíci +1

    What happened to the picture of JP in the robe during his initiation that used to be in this video?

  • @moosehead4497
    @moosehead4497 Před 9 měsíci +1

    "as above so below" years ago i remember my girlfriend at the time she kept telling me " NO THATS BAD ITS BAPHAMENT EVIL SYMBOLISM" , and its just wrong such a low-resolution perception of something with such a deep symbolism you will see it EVERYWHERE the reason is because it literally is one of the most fundamental perceptions in nature. Just because Alistair Crowley said it one time doesn't make it evil. I think the same thing happens with the Gnostics, people are too quick to assume they know everything about the gnostics and the gnostics that existed thousands of years ago must have thought just like Karl Marx and Hegel... Just because you have the symbolism of the Demiurge "false god" (which also appears multitude of places) doesn't mean you believe in luciferianism. Glad to hear you talk about this Jonathan, as someone who is interested in symbolism it has always been annoying to me to have a lot of these things generally overlooked by people with a very shallow understanding of what the symbol is..

  • @SrSilly
    @SrSilly Před 4 lety +5

    NO WAY! I LITERALLY JUST GOT GOOSEBUMPS! THANKKKK YOOOU!!! You seriously just answered a question that I have been asking myself for a couple of years now. Let me explain- as an artist, I have been EXTREMELY puzzled by this trend that has been going on with shapes. More specifically, the arch, "heaven and earth", circle on a square/rectangle. They are EVERYWHERE and I absolutely love them but thought that it was awfully odd that everyone was using them and since artists reflect the state of society, I was curious why there would always be these arched windows. Now what I would really be curious to know is if I sent you a collection of ones that I have seen and that stick out to me, would you think you could interpret?? I have some hints to what it is reflecting or "telling" us about societies undercurrents (which I believe it is because it is a subconscious phenomenon - the majority of these artists know little but the popular astrological figures that have been glamorized lately- there was no intention), but I'm sure you know more than I do.

    • @timetobenotdo
      @timetobenotdo Před 3 lety +1

      Did you end up digging deeper?

    • @SrSilly
      @SrSilly Před 3 lety +1

      Matthew Not really. All I know is that in some ways, it’s sort of unsettling. I had this awaking last year that started with a massive panic attack and ever since I see the arts as something similar to witchcraft. Not in a necessarily bad way, but for instance, pop music or modern illustrations can kinda speak some really catchy dark stuff into the world and as our “virginity” to these dark concepts continues to be shocked- they keep pushing the envelope because we have been grown desensitized as a society. “Logos” now being made to represent the image of a business/money/material ... and exploitation of Logos. It’s all super interesting but I suppose these hunches of mine are all theories.

  • @edwardverduzco
    @edwardverduzco Před 4 lety +7

    Sooo..... What do the double serpents on your Bishop's cross symbolize? Is it good? And if so how? Thanks

    • @Soulja4ChristWeAreAtWar
      @Soulja4ChristWeAreAtWar Před 3 lety +1

      Numbers 21:8 KJV - And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
      Numbers 21:9 KJV - And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
      This of course represents Christ, and those that look to him for salvation.
      However, it wasn't long before the Isrealites started worshiping that same statue and not what it represented.
      2 Kings 18:4 KJV - He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.
      So, perhaps, that image represents those that believed in what the snake represented and those that believed in the snake.
      Also, it could also simply represent, one believing thief and one unbelieving thief. Both are types of people society would deem snakes.
      "That thieving snake!".

  • @Demetra719
    @Demetra719 Před 10 dny

    As someone who spent many years in the occult prior to becoming Orthodox - I have what feels like a PTSD trauma response and a righteous anger when I encounter symbols that remind me of that world. Thanks for helping to diffuse that, and the fear that can come along with it!

  • @mewsez
    @mewsez Před 9 měsíci

    thank you! I agree 100%

  • @maluziusnetwork355
    @maluziusnetwork355 Před 4 lety +5

    I know what you mean. I can use a compass to draw a project or I can push it at someone's throat. The compass can be used to create or destroy.

  • @scottkeeler2306
    @scottkeeler2306 Před 4 lety +5

    The carving you craft is beautiful. Quite an artist!

  • @sixthsun8084
    @sixthsun8084 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I liked what you said. Its how ive always seen it. From that first acknowledgement that symbols were widely used by different peoples , we can then see that they all spoke the same language of symbols, and then maybe branched off in different directions and different opinions and philosophies , while althiugh opposing each other in their final conclusions, all spoke and speak the same symbolic language.

  • @kingagrad3436
    @kingagrad3436 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you for this video. It helped me with clarification of perceiving those

  • @m1galler
    @m1galler Před 3 lety +42

    All things can be used for good or evil. It's the wielder not the weapon that determines its function

    • @AmiStidhamMyHealingJourney
      @AmiStidhamMyHealingJourney Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, thank you.

    • @iseegood5609
      @iseegood5609 Před 2 lety

      Yes and pointing out that symbols are often used for evil, is not attacking people. Like blaming guns for murder would be error, but saying using guns as murder weapons and symbolism of gun violence as good is actually evil, is not attacking all gun owners or trying to take away rights to own guns.

    • @deondresealy7764
      @deondresealy7764 Před 2 lety +1

      when it comes to spiritual that is completely different if u draw from a well that can bring forth evil then it was never really good the attitude of it being used for good is bad because even the devil can give blessings

    • @iseegood5609
      @iseegood5609 Před 2 lety +1

      @@deondresealy7764 well put. The Devil can deceive with false promises and fulfill many desires, not really blessings but they seem to be. But I like how you put the analogy, I see it like a root of evil that branches out to what can appear good to people if we aren't diligent and prayerful in spirit and truth. Grace and peace of Jesus Christ to everyone whose reading.

    • @JiggyJones0
      @JiggyJones0 Před 2 lety +1

      A good tree can not bring forth evil fruit and an evil tree can not bring forth good fruit.

  • @bougnaw
    @bougnaw Před 3 lety +53

    Why would anyone hide one of their eyes, or do the pyramide sign when singing or dancing?Or hide one of their hands on the front side of their jacket? Is it something normal to do? If not then why? Symbolism does represent something, it is merely not coincidental. It conveys a message to your followers/camarades about your allegiance to something/someone or deities.

    • @flowerpower6147
      @flowerpower6147 Před 2 lety +6

      It’s so creepy!!! And it’s everywhere you look. Growing up as a child me and my siblings would always notice it. I can name countless cartoons with this symbolism... what do you think it means?

    • @justinsaunders3932
      @justinsaunders3932 Před 2 lety +13

      Yeah this guys either completely deceived or he’s damage control for the Freemasons. It’s not a coincidence and these symbols are all charged up with occult black magick

    • @letsallgetalong5499
      @letsallgetalong5499 Před 2 lety +4

      All secret societies worship satan it's a fact no matter anyone's excuses, that's all anyone needs to know enough said!

    • @je-freenorman7787
      @je-freenorman7787 Před 2 lety

      So, what is Baptism? Closing the 3rd eye with water at birth? Good one. Christianity is Satanic, like all other religion.

    • @je-freenorman7787
      @je-freenorman7787 Před 2 lety +1

      There is normally a Canon to a language right? is there a difference between b and d? Are they the same? no. So same with symbols and there is a canon. Like language, only metaphysical. We do however speak languages and those all have meaning. Its not up to you. SOrry.

  • @johnwheeler3071
    @johnwheeler3071 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I don't understand the rant. Anyone like Jordan Peterson who doesn't believe in the physical ressurection yet talks about the meaning of the bible can expect to be treated with caution by Christians.

  • @Alchemae
    @Alchemae Před 2 lety

    May I ask about that awesome print "God's Dog" behind you. What is that?

  • @backinblack1982
    @backinblack1982 Před 5 lety +3

    This is really what i needed to see and hear today. I admittedly have been getting hung up on this topic

  • @dangerkadung
    @dangerkadung Před 5 lety +5

    Mr Pageau, love your work. What’s your take on street artist like Banksys who vandalizes old art work and sorta gives it an “upgrade” to relate to us modern people. Also would love to hear your take on the “Last Supper” art work. Thank you.

  • @JujuBatter
    @JujuBatter Před 9 měsíci +3

    I've been noticing more symbolism nowadays, especially in the music industry. There are some artists I enjoy as well as artist I don't seem to like placing a pentagram, or upside-down cross either on the visuals during a live set, or in their jewelry or album covers, music videos, just somewhere, and it's just too much of a coincidence for me to not pay attention to it. Like instead of blatantly using the triple 6 symbol, they use "999", or a combination of shapes that could be a pentagram rearranged, things like this. Why? If God is not real and there is no spiritual war, why those symbols? I've seen the same symbols in all genres of music, how can it be a coincidence?. They never seem to mention anything about it or anything, it makes me just look out for them more.

    • @AuraysTimelessChannel
      @AuraysTimelessChannel Před 7 měsíci +1

      The stuff is everywhere. Is it for shock value? Or something bigger?

  • @Lumpis1979
    @Lumpis1979 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video, thanks. “The Great Triad” and “The symbolism of the Cross” by René Guenon are fantastic resources to dig deeper into these topics. Keen to hear your thoughts on Rene Guenon Jonathan

  • @aipkjbf
    @aipkjbf Před 5 lety +6

    This is posted on April 1st as an additional.. meta-reminder to not trust the initial, perhaps, simplistic impression of symbols accompanying a particular message?

  • @leejohnson197733
    @leejohnson197733 Před 4 lety +5

    What are your thoughts on the music videos that show blood baptism over and over or Madonna doing the baphomet pose while looking like an Egyptian god? These videos and performances do look like ritual's, always one eye symbolism, pyramids, checkerboard floors, etc

  • @diadoxos
    @diadoxos Před rokem +1

    I would like to hear more on the topic for sure. And if possible maybe even some speculation on how to recover the meaning of symbols that have been co-opted by other groups like you were speaking of. One example being the swastika, which as many know was used by Nazi Germany and various white supremacist groups and was inspired by the occult, but it was stolen from more ancient religions, the easiest example being Buddhism. Yet when many people see it they don’t think Buddhism or what have you. They think Nazi. So how could one recover the original intent and rescue it from the other more horrible attributions?

  • @wendydee3007
    @wendydee3007 Před 2 lety +31

    The problem with interpreting any symbols is that they can mean different things to different people. And we rarely have access to the original intent of the person writing or placing the symbol. So perhaps it is more useful to use our inner guidance, inner tuition, to gain a truer sense of the original intention. To do this, we need to be aware of any particular meanings we have become accustomed to associating with a particular symbol, put ourself into a neutral space, then tune in to the energy of the originator. It works for me. In addition, I am very wary about swallowing someone else's interpretation either way ('this is an evil symbol' or 'this is not intended to be used for evil'). Because usually, their interpretation is based on a particular agenda of intent, and NOT on a direct energetic connection with the original intended use of the symbol in a specific instance. We all need to do our own tuning in and not blindly rely on someone else's agenda-fuelled dictates ;o)

    • @EasternOrthodox101
      @EasternOrthodox101 Před 8 měsíci

      🤺☦🇷🇺No, we don't. You are just as bad as they are. No, we don't get to interpret anything ourselves in scripture - we got the Church’s oral Tradition for an objective truth! Both Jonathan and Peterson are Gnostics in sheep's clothing. And fyi anyone who says that 1 ayotte in the scripture's narrative/stories/history is "allegory" or "symbolic" is a Protestant heretic, not an Orthodox!

    • @Allyourheroswenttohell
      @Allyourheroswenttohell Před 7 měsíci

      No. They mean what they mean and freemasons lie to people about it and then people believe dumb BS
      ​@3rddimensionalphysical44 the son of man refers to natural man. Look up the bible verse about the queen of the south. It's talking about ishtar and you'll find that she comes from the most utter parts of the Earth. In this verse jesus refers to himself as the son of man who will sit in the center of the Earth for three days. This is describing becoming spiritual man. Aka a vessel for God. Jesus had to die because it represents destroying this fake idea of self. In revalation 13 the first and second beast are mary and jesus.. rev 12 is about a star alignment with virgo leo and jupiter. Leo sits on the crown. She wears the sun. Aka shining one, stands on the moon. Balanced masculine and feminine energy. This is displaying the virgin birth with jupiter being born. Leo aka God jupiter jesus. Satan is hydra. One third of stars represents the spine. The dragon is the serpent gaurding eden. It id one with the first and second beast. Three pillars of the tree of life inverted. The first came from the sea. The second the Earth. Sin in all living things. The d evil within. A gift to help us survive. The same darkness in you is within all living things..
      you should examine the logo he used for him taking part in a conspiracy. Do you know what it means? The glove is making the 666 hand gesture from freemasonry. The seven pillars he is using represents the seven seals of revalation. The seven chakras that align the spine. You have to face the destroyer to recieve the morning star. The all seeing eye. You do this biblically by destroying ishtar on the seven hills she sits allowing them to flow openly causing the biblical flood. The river of God is actually your cerebral spinal fluid. I have very little doubt there's a conspiracy to create christians. I also have little doubt that's a huge part of what freemasons have done for the last 2000 years. Esp after they created America. I also have little doubt he's part of an organized conspiracy in freemasonry and he is lying about it. He did a show with Jordan Peterson where they discussed the legitamacy of the devil. Which btw is literally just evil... d evil. It was a survival mechanism and gift from the divine feminine that created the universe. Anyways in this they set up a table in the center of the room. That table was the tree of life. The bible says there's two tree's on ether side of the river of God. It's about your brain stem, csf, and the ether. Seven people sat around the table. Seventh heaven. This is why the numbers three and seven are paired in the bible. It's a code revolving around the tree. Jordan sat in the middle. The left half of his suit red. The right blue. God said he would put the sheep on the right and goats on the left. Osiris flail and crook became adonai... yet this con job wants you to think bible characters were real. God is the center pillar, masculine and feminine energy on ether side. The three mirrors behind them are about this. Sexual alchemy is in all myths and religions. It is science. This science is actually showing that all the God's are one and every biblical character is God. Hence Jordan displaying as God. The ego it takes is insane on it's own. Then in another video this guy says people say the catholic church is evil because of the symbolism they use linking it to egypt. Even their hats came from egypt... know why it's evil? The ancients elongated their skulls to represent a virgin birth within. It came from the cosmic egg. Birthing God within. In the beginning greeks called the divine feminine chaos. It birthed the divine masculine. As above so below. It's about becoming one with the universe balancing this masculine and feminine within. The scales of justice. If the hesrt weighs ,ore than a feather it will be devoired by a crockadile. Aka your ego. Satan. If it's lighter you'll enter heaven internally. So what's wrong with that? All perversions came from the royals and the vatican. It's evil because they used it to manipulate people and brainwash the entire planet. Now I'll extend this farther... social media is rigged for their initates. Hence him downplaying what actually happened. Europeans were brought into the mystery schools and then used initation rights based off black mail to over throw them from within. At this point they've turned them into aliens. Mork and mindy. Blue shining one in a cave in merlin. Metal robot in dragonball. Alien. Promotheus... promotheus stole fire from the God's. This is actually about knowing and seeing evil. Man has become like one of us. Nobody gets to the father except through me. Six six six breaks down into 9. The omega. Jesus is both masculine and feminine energy. God and satan. The man never existed just like the rest of fictional characters based off God's. He was crucified in the skull. Thrity three bones in the spine to the holy grail. Jesus is the morning star. Sirius. The blazing star of freemasonry. Your penial gland. These people sold their souls. Mad obvious is you crack their code in all our tv shows, movies, and games. Corporation logos. Stone carvings and heiroglyphs. This channel is basically about creating a barrier so you can't see what's right in front of your face. Freemasons manipulating humanity. The truth movement is a third arm for the media. It is all striaght up BS.
      So how about explaining this away... other people might not see this for what it is... but I do.
      Jesus is both God and satan because the man, the myth, the legend is indeed just that. A fantasy invention by a global cult like all their non sense religoons they used to hide this.
      Lucifer so badly wanted to be like the most high every night it sirius rizes to the highest point in the sky to be sent back to the underworld by the sun. Satna claustrum. It's why God's decend into hell before rizing back up again. Jesus is lucifer. No one gets the father except through me. Without knowing evil you can not come to know God. Only his graven image jesus gave you to worship instead of God.

  • @secondlifearound
    @secondlifearound Před 4 lety +82

    "Abstain from ALL appearance of evil." - 1 Thessalonians 5:22

    • @Squishysforbreakfast
      @Squishysforbreakfast Před 4 lety +9

      Romans 14:14 "I know and am persuaded in the lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean."

    • @scottlouissmith2382
      @scottlouissmith2382 Před 4 lety

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    • @buddysilver5788
      @buddysilver5788 Před 4 lety +3

      JESUS WAS A TORAH JEW!
      He endorsed TORAH and all its GENOCIDES/SLAVERY/APARTHEID and he endorsed Moses!

    • @gabrielreyna8702
      @gabrielreyna8702 Před 4 lety +4

      Buddy Silver Moses and the prophets had nothing to do with those things that’s who Jesus endorsed why do you think he ended up calling the Pharisees hypocrites and brood of vipers.

    • @buddysilver5788
      @buddysilver5788 Před 3 lety +1

      @@gabrielreyna8702
      Did YOU study TORAH, the first 5 books of the Jewish Bible?
      MOSES WAS A PSYCHOPATHIC WAR CRIMINAL
      "And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses"
      (Deuteronomy 34:10)
      Yahweh, a being of simple and bloody tastes
      "One night while Moses was in camp, Jehovah was about to kill him.
      But Zipporah [his wife] circumcised her son with a flint knife ... So Yahweh did not harm Moses.
      Zipporah said, 'You are a bridegroom of blood'."
      - Exodus 4.24-26.
      NUMBERS 31:13-18:
      (13) Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp.
      (14) But Moses was furious with all the generals and captains who had returned from the battle.
      (15) “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded.
      (16) “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the Lord at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the Lord’s people.
      (17) So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man.
      ( 18 ) Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
      JESUS ENDORSED MOSES:
      “Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, in whom you have put your hope. 46 If you had believed Moses, you would believe Me, because he wrote about Me. 47But since you do not believe what he wrote, how will you believe what I say?”…
      John 5:45 47
      JESUS ENDORSED THE TORAH
      For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
      Matthew 5:18
      JESUS DEMANDED THE DEATH PENALTY
      "Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked,
      “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
      Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?
      For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ [Exodus 20:12; Deuteronomy. 5:16] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’[Exodus 21:17; Leviticus. 20:9]
      But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
      “‘These people honor me with their lips,
      but their hearts are far from me.
      They worship me in vain;
      their teachings are merely human rules.’[ Isaiah 29:13]”
      Matthew 15:1-9.
      WHAT NO CHRISTIAN UNDERSTANDS IS THAT THE BASIS OF THEIR RELIGION IS A MENTAL ILLNESS CALLED JUDAISM
      CHRISTIAN BELIEFS ARE NOT SANE BECAUSE THEIR BASIS IS ROOTED IN JUDAIC EVIL
      Judaism is morally bankrupt, it has nothing to offer us but out-dated plagiarized myths, about some angry judgmental god that is remarkably exactly like the Jews themselves. The anthropocentric supremacist myths of the Jews should have little appeal to a person of high consciousness; such exclusionistic ideas are an anathema to any decent human being. The idea that you need salvation from a Jew should go against ever cell in your being, if not you need to examine what great fault lies within yourself.

  • @ricketdykes3329
    @ricketdykes3329 Před 4 lety +9

    Judge a tree by the fruit it bears,and none are innocent.

  • @DeeSee77
    @DeeSee77 Před 9 měsíci

    “Aleister Crowley was obviously an evil man”
    *switches clip off and never returns*

    • @ahhhhh5849
      @ahhhhh5849 Před 9 měsíci

      Ohhhh nooooooo he said Aleister Poop-Eating Crowley was a bad man 😢

    • @OpenHLZFocus
      @OpenHLZFocus Před 4 měsíci

      I think he ate 🤐 🧸children? And something about murder🥺? hummm. Pooop🟤🟫 Also!! 😢

  • @AndrewGonzalesArtistry
    @AndrewGonzalesArtistry Před 11 měsíci +1

    The essence of authentic Jewish Kabbalah is “Treat your brother as you would treat yourself” …because on the other side of the veil… you and your neighbor are one organism.

  • @dansysoman3391
    @dansysoman3391 Před 3 lety +7

    Man, I love the The Paschal Stichera at the beginning. What a victorious hymn. Christ is Risen!

  • @MrQwerty88
    @MrQwerty88 Před 5 lety +5

    Can I ask your thoughts on baptism and wheather it's necessary to be saved?

    • @selihter
      @selihter Před 5 lety

      I'd like to know his opinion as well:)

  • @integralyogin
    @integralyogin Před 3 lety +2

    Since all things are God, in all things thou seest just so much of God as thy capacity affordeth thee.
    ~ Aleister Crowley, The Vision and the Voice

  • @williambishop5839
    @williambishop5839 Před 9 měsíci

    Spot on! All things are good and bad at the same time! It's simply how one perceives

  • @5ifth
    @5ifth Před 5 lety +52

    Maybe you should do an occult series, or more specifically a de-occultism series. Like it or not these conversations are being had by people who are illiterate when it comes to understanding the purpose (and repurposing) of these symbols, and having your angle would be beneficial in dispelling the misconceptions that arise from the darker underbelly of the internet.