Chael sonnen explains why mma is brutal and why fighters shouldnt have to respect each other. #martialarts #mixedmartialarts #mma #ufc #chaelsonnen #shorts #short
Very accurate. Justin Gaethje has also said that. Has to be noted tho, the Romans used the Colosseum fights to distract the people from poverty and their other problems to ensure they dont rebel 😉
@Aryzo for street beefs maybe but once fighters train for better technique, get a proper diet and routine and follow it through discipline and hard work it's not about who's more barbaric but who has the better will power, and you not accepting that is just you coping for your lack of will power.
@@user-gr1io9is3v "its not about whos more barbaric" i never said that and neither did chael sonnen. The sport is just barbaric in general. In comparison to regular people, fighters are barbaric. They fight in cages. Thats what hes talking about. You can also have willpower and be barbaric. Theres plenty of fighters with more barbaric fighting styles. Look at tyson fury. Youre missing the point entirely
Watch Muay Thai or lethwei, the fighters have the utmost respect for one another. Trash talk fills seats but in my opinion, you earn respect when you get in that ring/cage.
Can't really compare both. Muay thai is almost religious in thailand, not really similar to MMA. And again it is quite an exception when it comes to respect/tradition.
Muay Thai's origins, both what's grounded in historical evidence and in legend/mythos lies in its original use and purpose as a system of martial combat. It was used for combat in war and conjoins well with other ancient, armed southeast Asian martial arts. The Muay Thai legend is of a great Thai soldier/warrior defeating nine of the best Burmese soldiers chosen by a king in unarmed death matches. The brutal efficiency with which he eliminated them earned the king's respect and his release. When he returned to Thailand and the locals asked how he did it; he told them of his lethal "art of eight limbs" and thus, Muay Thai began. It evolved into a sport steeped in the nation's culture and tradition. Our modern world has advanced tech for war and the detailed, artistic brutality of something like Muay Thai in service of murder and war is frowned upon now, but a necessity back then. Luthwei, btw is the Burmese version of Muay Thai. See how the pieces connect? Also, the original version of Jiu-Jitsu, (before Kano used it to create Judo which led to BJJ) was similarly a system of hand to hand combat designed for the samurai of feudal Japan for times when they didn't have access to a sword; but needed to end someone's life in service of violent conquest under the orders of their emporers and masters. Does that not sound...just a little barbaric to you? Violence is what's used to win wars, acts of violence are systemized and refined to be better tools for winning more wars. Even when the sport context was always present, like in Pankration: the level of brutality would make most modern people shudder. Not to say that there's no place for respect, honor and tradition. But be honest about the reality and history of what's being practiced.
@@BallBatteryReligion beautifully written. I have been to both Thailand and Burma, and seen both sports live. I am a life long martial arts fan and have trained Muay Thai for 6 years at a gym that encourages tradition and respect. I already knew many of the points you stated, but couldn't have worded it as nicely if I tried. Thanks for the info, I learned a thing or two.
many professional mma fighters are starting to spar lightly to focus on technique rather than to win. i think max holloway talked about it on a podcast@@anonymousperson2816
Zero lies have been detected. One more for the BAD GUY They fight in a cage for MONEY Infront of strangers. I guess his point is that if you're ok being hit in the face a little joke should not be hurting your apparently childish emotions
It's work. You work for the same company. Trash talk is good for sales. But actually being disrespectful on a personal level is not proffesional and makes you look like a child.
I can’t believe there was even a time where fighters took what they did more seriously than what we have now, we still have those clowns now but they’re less outspoken because they know they’re not taken as seriously. And Chael is 100% right, the fighters who fully acknowledge what mma and just cage fighting in general is, they typically have a much greater rapport with the audience and their careers go places faster than the guy who says “I do all my talking in the ring.” Case in point Sean Strickland. It’s not even about being a character at that point once you break it down that far. Being a character helps, but you don’t have to be one. It’s about being honest about who you are and what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. If you give the audience the answer to all of those questions we are far less likely to hate them or come to hate them when that fighter inevitably loses or does something embarrassing because they ALL do that. Or you can go the Ian Garry and Colby Covington route of just talk shit, talk shit, talk some more shit and be a complete character that people want to see lose. But even then there’s no mistaking here what Colby and Ian Garry are doing, even if it is a character act, they’re still able to garner attention purely because they give us the answers to what they’re doing (which is cage fighting) and why (for money and adoration of a drunken audience, us)
From the mountains of the north west to the coastal towns of Palm springs the BAD Dude still standing tall with no defeats on that chin 👌🏻🙌🏻 … Just the same old working bees honing in on the honey trap as the never ending cycle to crown their “one” continues
The Applause is what gets them the money. Point still stands these are dudes fighting for the Audiences entertainment. It's as Barbaric as it gets in the modern era. Essentially only a weapon away from being gladiator fights
= People are assholes. Especially to each other. It’s more of a “tactic” dehumanising your opponent, making yourself hate them to the point you want to kill them. Helps fighters win fights.
Say what you want, but this applies to every sport. It is not about respect, but it should be what we as rational humans should be able to show to our opponent, wether it is MMA, boxing, football or tennis. It talks by itself when you are incapable of earning a name by your fighting skill alone and need the drama of disrespect so some people wants to see you (which happen to be those less invested in the world of martial arts, the casual viewers). Chael with age becoming a karen grandma in character and physical looks 😅
Nothing honorable about ufc These guys hop in a cage, underpaid, and get their brain slapped around until they get CTE and the rest of their lives are ruined all to entertain some drunk idiots. Let’s not pretend this is a Bruce Lee movie kiddo
Respect is discipline. Love Chael but i'd rather look up to GSP and Mighty Mouse. I can get deeper into it with history like Sun Tzu and Bruce Lee philosophies but to me I just see what the best of the best are doing and copy it.
As someone who's done Karate for several years, he's absolutely right. Discipline is a big part of martial arts, but MMA is just as much a sport as it is a martial art. If you come into it expecting disciplined, stoic martial artists left and right then you clearly can't tell the difference. That's not what people watch or learn MMA for.
He’s completely right, that’s what made him his money, people said that but they still paid to watch in the hopes of seeing Chael get beaten to a pulp. So who’s really the problem here? The guy trash talking while knowing it would make him shit loads of cash, or the people falling for it and giving away that cash?
It really depends. Make fun of each other sure, but no low blows. I don’t want to hear someone talk trash on dead parents, people with cancer, and other stuff of that level. Banter and insults are nice, but there’s a line
I mean there's definitely a level of respect that is involved in martial arts but the UFC has nothing to do with martial arts it's ultimate fighting not ultimate martial arts
There are 2 ways to look at it. 2 men fighting for glory in front of an audience the way it is in a gladiator ring. Or the way Chael looks at things. 2 men beating the fuck out of each other with shorts and nothing else to wear just for some money with drunk people applauding this. Both are applicable
Chael many fighters consider it martial arts but u were rubbish so yeah u we’re just a thug talking crop but that’s the difference between a good fight and a bad one what u say speaks for itself and is a reflection of who u are so I agree with you in a way😂
This is not the case for all martial arts. This is only true for Americans who only watch boxing and mma. Good on Khabib to teach you all some humility.
oh shut up. he still kicks peoples asses for a living. what is not the case? the drunken audience might be the only thing. its still two half naked guys beating each other up for entertainment. from my experience these guys that harp on words like "honor" and such are the most fragile snakey crybabies that exist
Khabib said, "I wanna fight your chicken because that is #1 easy fight in the LW division". That was before Conor said anything about Khabib. I don't see any humility here. People just remember who wins in the end and the winner just rewrites part of history. Stop spreading lies.
Not my experience at all. 15 years of MMA and this is just nonsense. Theres insane amounts of respect and the fighters arent fighting for aplause. Chael is just stuck being fake.
Respect isnt gonna help you in a fight but I guess it does give you an advantage if you dont want to constantly be called out, but if everybody was respectful martial arts would be a lot less interesting
@@justanothernobody982 he clearly doesn’t want ti be called out, that’s why he’s speaking here’s he’s a whole ass bitch. If you wanna talk shit? Fine. But you’ve got to accept the responsibilities that come with it
@@tylerpitasi1843don't act like people kicking and punching and kneeing and ragdolling each other is some sort of sacred act. If GSP thought he could win by trash talking (or using steroids :gasp:), you know dam well that he would.
@tannerhuxtable6118 you obviously havnt heard him talk. And yeah, if you don't want to treat it that way you don't have to. But anything can be done with decency and respect, alot of people like chael just want an excuse to be a douchbag. Watch muay thai fights in Thailand, more brutal than anything the ufc ever put on, but full of reverence, respect, and legit religious symbology.
he's not right, look at muay thai, karate, jui jitsu, etc. They're all martial arts and each have their own way of respecting the art and the person. MMA and UFC is different, it still generally is about respect but most dont really like that
I think of it as gladiators in arena fighting for the crowds
Accurate
Very accurate. Justin Gaethje has also said that. Has to be noted tho, the Romans used the Colosseum fights to distract the people from poverty and their other problems to ensure they dont rebel 😉
Or money
Still barbaric
for money
“I’m not gonna feel sorry for him. This is Combat.”- Jon “Bones” Jones🐐🦴
Is that what he said about his wife?
@@DrunkMephisto *POV Jon is standing over the incubator of a pre-born baby, 12 hours after crashing into the mother*
@@DazTrav"I wonder what would happen if I eye-poked him"
Jon bones jones 💉💉🧃
Spoken moments before landing the historical 100th successful eye gouge of his UFC career
Well he's right
Not even close.
@@user-ec1lf9zo4d derealization kicking in?
@Aryzo for street beefs maybe but once fighters train for better technique, get a proper diet and routine and follow it through discipline and hard work it's not about who's more barbaric but who has the better will power, and you not accepting that is just you coping for your lack of will power.
@@user-gr1io9is3v "its not about whos more barbaric" i never said that and neither did chael sonnen. The sport is just barbaric in general. In comparison to regular people, fighters are barbaric. They fight in cages. Thats what hes talking about. You can also have willpower and be barbaric. Theres plenty of fighters with more barbaric fighting styles. Look at tyson fury. Youre missing the point entirely
Yes he right is and it’s also why he’s hated on but he’s the man love it hate him
Watch Muay Thai or lethwei, the fighters have the utmost respect for one another. Trash talk fills seats but in my opinion, you earn respect when you get in that ring/cage.
Can't really compare both. Muay thai is almost religious in thailand, not really similar to MMA. And again it is quite an exception when it comes to respect/tradition.
Muay Thai's origins, both what's grounded in historical evidence and in legend/mythos lies in its original use and purpose as a system of martial combat. It was used for combat in war and conjoins well with other ancient, armed southeast Asian martial arts. The Muay Thai legend is of a great Thai soldier/warrior defeating nine of the best Burmese soldiers chosen by a king in unarmed death matches. The brutal efficiency with which he eliminated them earned the king's respect and his release. When he returned to Thailand and the locals asked how he did it; he told them of his lethal "art of eight limbs" and thus, Muay Thai began. It evolved into a sport steeped in the nation's culture and tradition. Our modern world has advanced tech for war and the detailed, artistic brutality of something like Muay Thai in service of murder and war is frowned upon now, but a necessity back then. Luthwei, btw is the Burmese version of Muay Thai. See how the pieces connect? Also, the original version of Jiu-Jitsu, (before Kano used it to create Judo which led to BJJ) was similarly a system of hand to hand combat designed for the samurai of feudal Japan for times when they didn't have access to a sword; but needed to end someone's life in service of violent conquest under the orders of their emporers and masters.
Does that not sound...just a little barbaric to you?
Violence is what's used to win wars, acts of violence are systemized and refined to be better tools for winning more wars. Even when the sport context was always present, like in Pankration: the level of brutality would make most modern people shudder. Not to say that there's no place for respect, honor and tradition. But be honest about the reality and history of what's being practiced.
Way to expose yourself as a person who doesn’t understand what Muay Thai is
@@BallBatteryReligion beautifully written. I have been to both Thailand and Burma, and seen both sports live. I am a life long martial arts fan and have trained Muay Thai for 6 years at a gym that encourages tradition and respect. I already knew many of the points you stated, but couldn't have worded it as nicely if I tried. Thanks for the info, I learned a thing or two.
@@zombieeightpack1381 fool.
Uncle Chael has a point.
Other than getting paid if there were no reason no dumbass would get in that cage for free
nobody gon talk about what izzy did cue the among us music
He was trolling these dudes all fight
@@justinwright1745 that aint trolling😂😂😂😂
@@justinwright1745 "I wasn't grinding on his ass! I was just trolling!"
Bro rawDOGGED him
Only you gays want to talk about that
This actually helped me get over the fear of hitting my sparring partner or rolling too hard lol
broooo whatttt.... 🤨🤨🧐
@@steNOT3 i struggle with hitting my sparring partner during boxing/MT or rolling too hard during bjj since I'm reluctant to "hurt" them
its better to train smart so you can compete without injury@@anonymousperson2816
@anonymousperson2816 that's not a bad thing, you just have to match energy
many professional mma fighters are starting to spar lightly to focus on technique rather than to win. i think max holloway talked about it on a podcast@@anonymousperson2816
Zero lies have been detected. One more for the BAD GUY
They fight in a cage for MONEY Infront of strangers. I guess his point is that if you're ok being hit in the face a little joke should not be hurting your apparently childish emotions
He's blabbering like always making no sense whatsoever. He's MMA's GaryVee
Chael breaks the loudest man in the room is the weakest stereotype.
The greatest defensive fighter of all time that never let anyone get close
That moan got me rolling💀😭
Not the izzy hentai 😂😢
😂
Honestly if this video doesn’t convince anyone that Izzy is gay. Idk what will.
For NO REASON Is what got me
It's work. You work for the same company.
Trash talk is good for sales. But actually being disrespectful on a personal level is not proffesional and makes you look like a child.
This guy's a great speaker
I agree, it did look barberic when jon jones was mopping the floor with him 🤣
I can’t believe there was even a time where fighters took what they did more seriously than what we have now, we still have those clowns now but they’re less outspoken because they know they’re not taken as seriously. And Chael is 100% right, the fighters who fully acknowledge what mma and just cage fighting in general is, they typically have a much greater rapport with the audience and their careers go places faster than the guy who says “I do all my talking in the ring.” Case in point Sean Strickland.
It’s not even about being a character at that point once you break it down that far. Being a character helps, but you don’t have to be one. It’s about being honest about who you are and what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. If you give the audience the answer to all of those questions we are far less likely to hate them or come to hate them when that fighter inevitably loses or does something embarrassing because they ALL do that. Or you can go the Ian Garry and Colby Covington route of just talk shit, talk shit, talk some more shit and be a complete character that people want to see lose. But even then there’s no mistaking here what Colby and Ian Garry are doing, even if it is a character act, they’re still able to garner attention purely because they give us the answers to what they’re doing (which is cage fighting) and why (for money and adoration of a drunken audience, us)
One FC would beg to differ
Well , look whos more succesful , ufc or ofc
No one cares about One FC.
Lmfao that izzy vettori shot
Naa the sound effect always got me 😂
From the mountains of the north west to the coastal towns of Palm springs the BAD Dude still standing tall with no defeats on that chin 👌🏻🙌🏻
… Just the same old working bees honing in on the honey trap as the never ending cycle to crown their “one” continues
I think money keeps these guys going more than applause
You guys do it "fur muney and bounce" 😂
I thought the reason they fight is the cash, not the applause.
Most of em would probably make more money if they picked up a trade 🤣💯
more applause translates to more cash, so he’s not wrong
The Applause is what gets them the money. Point still stands these are dudes fighting for the Audiences entertainment. It's as Barbaric as it gets in the modern era. Essentially only a weapon away from being gladiator fights
@OK-yy6qz why did they fight during coivd with no live audience?
@@ar678b6 Audience still watched through television/computers. Still entertainment
Real 😂
I went to my first UFC event UFC 299 and literally everyone was drunk 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"what do you mean it's about(euuugghhh)
Yes shael im sure them getting paid for fighting has nothing to do with it
FACTOS spoken
= People are assholes.
Especially to each other. It’s more of a “tactic” dehumanising your opponent, making yourself hate them to the point you want to kill them.
Helps fighters win fights.
Say what you want, but this applies to every sport.
It is not about respect, but it should be what we as rational humans should be able to show to our opponent, wether it is MMA, boxing, football or tennis.
It talks by itself when you are incapable of earning a name by your fighting skill alone and need the drama of disrespect so some people wants to see you (which happen to be those less invested in the world of martial arts, the casual viewers).
Chael with age becoming a karen grandma in character and physical looks 😅
I mean, even great fighters like Ali used trash talk.
They aren't naked.
You’re correcting uncle Chael on MMA, are you slow?
@@Bulzz3yethe undefeated undisputed chapel sonnen, but on the real note he can despite being infinitely better at the sport have bad takes on it
Rationalizing a lack of personal honour
Nothing honorable about ufc
These guys hop in a cage, underpaid, and get their brain slapped around until they get CTE and the rest of their lives are ruined all to entertain some drunk idiots.
Let’s not pretend this is a Bruce Lee movie kiddo
Pfffff this people, not even explaining thigs to them will make them understand shit
reason money
its for the money. if i could, i would. respect.
But why should anyone pay them to fight?
bro issy ain’t coming back from these edits
Respect is discipline. Love Chael but i'd rather look up to GSP and Mighty Mouse. I can get deeper into it with history like Sun Tzu and Bruce Lee philosophies but to me I just see what the best of the best are doing and copy it.
Respect is earned and honor are for the dead
@@lonedemonofdeath666cringe
Hmm, freethinker here we got.
Philosopher and Sun Tzu researcher...
- Whan shit, tiake your pantsu off. Who poopa in pants, always lose.
=_=
Bruce Lee. Lol.
Sun tazu whose that guy?
If Chael was a bean farmer, he'd be saying the same things about bean farming. Dude just likes to talk.
So was he wrong?
@@SpiritualAwakening333yup
@@SpiritualAwakening333 yes
Fair enough
As someone who's done Karate for several years, he's absolutely right. Discipline is a big part of martial arts, but MMA is just as much a sport as it is a martial art. If you come into it expecting disciplined, stoic martial artists left and right then you clearly can't tell the difference. That's not what people watch or learn MMA for.
He’s completely right, that’s what made him his money, people said that but they still paid to watch in the hopes of seeing Chael get beaten to a pulp. So who’s really the problem here? The guy trash talking while knowing it would make him shit loads of cash, or the people falling for it and giving away that cash?
It’s not even combat , it’s a dog fight except instead of dog we use people
Bro what is is combat, it’s not like their fighting to the death
Nah.
When you put all the suspect shit Izzy has done in the cage together you gotta kinda look at him sideways
Dude forgot about money
It really depends. Make fun of each other sure, but no low blows. I don’t want to hear someone talk trash on dead parents, people with cancer, and other stuff of that level. Banter and insults are nice, but there’s a line
hes right
I mean there's definitely a level of respect that is involved in martial arts but the UFC has nothing to do with martial arts it's ultimate fighting not ultimate martial arts
UFC is the modern day Colosseum
Martial arts originate from the battlefield (the oldest ones), why would you respect someone you're supposed to kill anyway
Martial arts are not like in movies
There are 2 ways to look at it. 2 men fighting for glory in front of an audience the way it is in a gladiator ring.
Or the way Chael looks at things. 2 men beating the fuck out of each other with shorts and nothing else to wear just for some money with drunk people applauding this.
Both are applicable
Dana white seeing this:🤦
He's not yellow, he's pink/red
I don’t think most do it for the applause of some nobody’s , they do it for that money, money makes the world go round after all.
I think MMA is a good martial arts sport , maybe one of the best
They do it for the pay check
Israel grabbin the bootie lol
It's the test of fighting skills and practise
Ain no way dogg grabbed his ass
He felt them salty hot nuts on his hand.
He got mma and martial arts confused martial arts is 90% about mindset and dedication like karate judo and more.
It is incredibly disrespectful to physically abuse another human being for profit. ,😅
Right
AKA NOT MARTIAL ARTS. Lol. It’s cage fighting they are different.
Money 💰
Adesanya Gae
they're doing it for money... and the promise (or hope) of more money later... if it was just applause... they wouldn't be doing it
which makes it worse i think, as it is just for a material gain compared to approval of your fellow human.
The Sport I love and know, should not exist.
Gives born fighters a chance at an honourable living. We're all born with different qualities
People are getting into fights for free every day. At least these guys are getting paid
@@dirkvanvelden8378 Women are screwing for free so prostitution is honorable and commendable?
money
Chael many fighters consider it martial arts but u were rubbish so yeah u we’re just a thug talking crop but that’s the difference between a good fight and a bad one what u say speaks for itself and is a reflection of who u are so I agree with you in a way😂
Lmao imagine how chael will praise mixed martial arts once he sees the true gladiator Fighting pits lmao its called bare knuckle fighting lmao 🤣🤣
bubbles
😂
Most realistic opinion on Mma I ever seen is just modern gladiators game for entertaining.
when chael has his glasses on he kinds looks like an old and retired model
This is not the case for all martial arts. This is only true for Americans who only watch boxing and mma. Good on Khabib to teach you all some humility.
this is gladiator shit which came from the euro/middle eastern areas
Khabib is very disrespectful and barbaric
Khabib was in ufc as an mma athlete.You contradicted by giving his example m
oh shut up. he still kicks peoples asses for a living. what is not the case? the drunken audience might be the only thing. its still two half naked guys beating each other up for entertainment. from my experience these guys that harp on words like "honor" and such are the most fragile snakey crybabies that exist
Khabib said, "I wanna fight your chicken because that is #1 easy fight in the LW division". That was before Conor said anything about Khabib. I don't see any humility here. People just remember who wins in the end and the winner just rewrites part of history.
Stop spreading lies.
Lame
nah
For no reason other than… $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 🤪
Extremely limited cmon chael lol
Not my experience at all. 15 years of MMA and this is just nonsense. Theres insane amounts of respect and the fighters arent fighting for aplause. Chael is just stuck being fake.
you have respect for your opponent but you step in the cage trying your best to possibly kill them for a pay check it's not that respectful
Yeah what level do you fight at
Absolutely insane opinion. Respect is key always and if you opt to speak a lot you will be called out for it
Respect isnt gonna help you in a fight but I guess it does give you an advantage if you dont want to constantly be called out, but if everybody was respectful martial arts would be a lot less interesting
@@justanothernobody982 he clearly doesn’t want ti be called out, that’s why he’s speaking here’s
he’s a whole ass bitch. If you wanna talk shit? Fine. But you’ve got to accept the responsibilities that come with it
@justanothernobody982 to a casual fan maybe. But it's gsp fights I rewatch, nor some would be gangster.
@@tylerpitasi1843don't act like people kicking and punching and kneeing and ragdolling each other is some sort of sacred act.
If GSP thought he could win by trash talking (or using steroids :gasp:), you know dam well that he would.
@tannerhuxtable6118 you obviously havnt heard him talk. And yeah, if you don't want to treat it that way you don't have to. But anything can be done with decency and respect, alot of people like chael just want an excuse to be a douchbag. Watch muay thai fights in Thailand, more brutal than anything the ufc ever put on, but full of reverence, respect, and legit religious symbology.
he's not right, look at muay thai, karate, jui jitsu, etc. They're all martial arts and each have their own way of respecting the art and the person. MMA and UFC is different, it still generally is about respect but most dont really like that
chael can't fight though