The Most Disappointing Cars of the Last 20 Years
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- čas přidán 27. 02. 2023
- Your favorite cars are a matter of opinion. Whether you like the top of the line sports car to the cheap Facebook marketplace Honda Civic - everybody has their own taste. For today's video I go down my brief list of cars off the top of my head that were disappointing - mostly in the last 20 years or so. We've seen the automotive industry change with its culture and technology - but what will truly make the cut? Let's talk about it.
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You forgot the CRZ! But yeah the InTegRa is by far the most unacceptable design wise ''rebirth'' Honda ever made.
WAIT WHAT?! HOW DO YOU NOT PUT THE PT CRUISER ON THIS LIST?!?!?
And that's why we're subbed bro. Thank you.
Do more videos like this plz.
I love the Chevy SSR. We need more utes and coupe utilities
Can we get a RIP for Mitsubishi and their dignity? That financial recession really killed them. I’m still annoyed and surprised at how Mitsubishi has never fully recovered. Have you made a video on that already?
They did sell the colt/space star mini hatchback and the hybrid suv thing very well, maybe a comeback is in the cards
I believe Nissan bought out part of Mitsubishi. Not a merger, but are now in same family as Renault and Nissan.
@@SamuraiOnline i believe they are under the alliance but mostly on Nissan’s umbrella
@@Makaya9s I give them a good 5 years to come back... They just need to do somthing Wild as hell when they release they're next sports car. Like pair up with Yamaha, or a German manufacturer, or just be boots on ground with they're own R&D like Mazda with the new inline 6 and just pair it with their good ass hybrid system. The newer suv/crossover line up is good, they are reliable and pretty damn upscale for the price, just no performance bones AT ALL.
Mistu Motors is lucky Mitsubishi Corporation sells many other things beyond cars from chemicals to electronics. Otherwise, they would have gone the way of Pontiac in 2008-2010.
until just now I didn't even know there was a crossover eclipse lmao
Unfortunately yes, yes there is...
Btw ohh billy
I know! Had to double take that one.
Lucky
Yep.....bastardizing the name eclipse!
Apparently naming a car is VERY expensive. You have to do things like make sure the name isn’t offensive in any locations, make sure the trademarks/other IP is available in all markets, do focus groups on consumer sentiment, etc. It is much cheaper to just reuse a name that they already had, but weren’t using. So it makes sense for Mitsubishi since financially they are not doing great.
The quiet crowd and slow clap by the presenter at the Integra launch is the funniest car reveal of all time.
I streamed the Integra launch live and I laughed out of my chair from the atmosphere of disappointment 🤣🤣🤣
HOW could they look at that and go, "Yeah, people who loved the Integra will go nuts for this!"
Same way they did with the NSX, I guess.
you know somethings bad when the audience wont clap till you do. even the look on the presenters face said: yep we fucked up lol
I mean the og integra wasn't that special either.... just the type r. It was just a fancy civic
Please clap
If anything, the new Bronco showed the world what you should do when reviving a dead car. (Edit: For clarification, I meant the design aspect)
I also believe offering 2 different sizes were genius. A fake bronco and a new age bronco 😂
Yeah and the Mavick showed you can revive a name in a different class and as long as it's the same concept no one will notice.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough we talking ford mavick? Like the 4x4?
@Landen Emch Chevy caught on and did it the wrong way so +1 to ford with the Bronco
Shoulda had a V8 and that's a hill I'll die on
A lot of cars were disappointments because companies advertised them as something that they weren't which raises our expectations and it doesn't deliver like the companies said they would. Plus some cars were made to look fast but were actually slow AF and handled like a shopping cart.
Exactly this !
Handled like a shopping cart got me bro 😂
Facts
Correct.
It's feeling alot like it's false advertisement being blatantly done by alot of these manufacturers and no one holding them accountable.
9:00 I'm glad I wasn't the only one with that expectation. I know car companies think that small compacts may be struggling to sell against big SUVs, but IMO:
If they still made COOLER COMPACTS _we'd still buy them!_ Shame the Dart nameplate died as fast as it did...American Compact Cars are becoming a passing memory. How tragic.
Bladed :)
While I don’t disagree entirely, the low sales of the focus/fiesta ST leading to their discontinuation shows that even when companies try to bring cool compacts to the masses, they fall flat outside of car enthusiasts-at least in the states
It's a sin to comment on other creators comments, but also love your content good sir. Keep up the great work aswell.
@@SmeltedPorkchop I think the issue with the ST cars was that people who wanted them didn't have the money to buy them brand new for whatever reason. The internet shouts they want this stuff but never show up because they want too much in a cheap package and complain when everything they want isn't there.
I had one for a while, it was a gt with a 6speed manual and it was reasonably fun to drive my opinion. The only downside is the manual has a clutch delay valve that has to be deleted for the car to be even remotely drivable. However mine had the dual mass flywheel explode, and as soon as I had that replaced and a new clutch installed I traded it in for a mustang Ecoboost
The new Z is the first recent car to come out that actually looks pretty unique compared to everything else on the road
I mean tbh the Supra turns more heads than the Z. Especially with its stock exhaust. For roughly the same price you’re getting more power to the wheels and overall a better interior and looks the Supra is the best option.
uhhh no. it looks like shit. who cares if it looks unique if it looks like shit lmao
@@WhiteComet_CA it can make 500whp stock turbos tuned from factory and maybe some bigger injectors if you want.
@@VEGA-J The Supra can be pushed to a lot more than that with stock turbos, the only thing holding back the supra is the transmission which is still lightyears better than the Z's transmission
I still haven't seen a new Z in person and my opinion might change drastically, it happened with the Supra, it could happen again. Honestly though the images and videos I've seen of the new Z, I HATE it visually. I think it is one of the ugliest cars Nissan has ever made. I understand the design philosophy, I get that it's supposed to be an amalgamation of all the cool Z/ZX cars in one and I see that in the design, but I still think it is absolutely butt ugly hideous. I especially hate the black roof they show all the pre-release cars having. I know it comes in full body colors but it's hard to even find images of those, let alone one in the wild. The worst thing by miles, and probably the easiest to fix, for me is the front bumper. That rectangle grille is just so bad. It genuinely looks like they forgot to style it before releasing images and just went with it.
I firmly believe that the 300ZX and the 370Z are two of the best looking cars Nissan has ever made and this new one looks like somebody tried to draw them from memory, forgot which parts belonged to which and forgot all the body curves and lines either had. THAT SAID I've seen renderings of it with a widebody kit to give it the rear fenders the 370Z had and it looks much, MUCH better to me.
Again, I reserve the right to change my mind once I finally see one in person.
I remember the 4door Integra, because I had one with a five-speed manual. It was a blast with room for the car seat!
I got one now with a jdm front end and manual, I get so much compliments for it just being my daily
I had one. My ex totalled it
@@DaInfamous0ne worst decision you ever made
They were rad. Guy in my small hometown had a rhd swap with a built turbo k series. Had a cage in it and car seats in the back.
Amen.. we used to go through eg and ek platform cars.. when you’re broke, a 4 door ls manual with options that was clean, with little Rota slips, a short shift kit, maybe a little intake.. 3 grand.. maybe less (In 2006-8) and you were having a blast. Actually.. at the time you could probably assume some kind of music upgrade was going on and still under budget… I remember building several integrals.. 2 and 4 door.. LS and gSR cars, all the ls cars were less than 4500 (usually a lot less) to build and the GSR cars we could do for between 4 and 7 grand… that’s why they’re all gone.. they were the best cheap and practical fun ever built. What was better for the money? Many things maybe close to as good… but for a bulletproof maintenance only car.. the DC series of cars can’t be touched.. you could buy a 5.0 for the same money then, but for that money it was comparing a shit box to a really good cheap car.. great 5.0s exist! But the good ones were never cheap.
I would like to add Maxima to the list. They used to be fun and engaging and you could even buy one w/ a manual. They were slowly neutered into being heavy, over-styled and over priced. Near Infiniti price combined w/ Altima level resale values....no wonder they are discontinued.
everyone always sleeps on older maximas, i had 3 4th gens and whooped alot of people, some didnt even know what it was, sadly the last one i had didnt have abs which was kinda crazy to me and slid into a crv because everyone decided to slam on their brakes because the light turned yellow.. even the trd camry that was dipping with me, i should’ve known he was scary he drove a camry..
@@J.Gainez they sleep on the SE 3rd gen maxima even more with the rare VE30DE engine. Basically a FWD 300ZX.. I hit 145mph stock with it and spanked every maxima on top speed with it as high up as the 7th gen. It only had 190hp but had some crazy top end and beat cars with more hp. I should add that it also came with valve timing and a limited slip diff. It was basically a Taurus SHO from those years. Big sleeper. Only made for 2 years not to be confused with the crappy VG30E that came on the base model
Nissan Maximas used to be the coolest, most luxurious sedan anyone you knew had back in the 80s… now it’s just an overpriced sedan that looks the same as all the others
Let’s not forget the automatic transmissions made from bird bones and crunchy taco shells.
I had a 2004 maxima. That thing was surprisingly quick.
If they just made the new integra smaller it would have done amazing but with modern safety it has to be huge
@Brian Lee is there real word of a new type R integra? I haven’t heard anything about that.
@@ROVA00 Type S is coming soon-ish
If they didn't call it the next gen Integra, it would be fine.. it's not like they couldn't keep the ILX name and beef it up like they did.
Keep in mind a modern Honda Civic is the size of a 1990s wagon
Motions to the smart car, GR Yaris, BRZ, etc. There are not excuses for how fat and obnoxiously bad looking the Integra is when compared to its predecessors. Compared to an Accord, Camry, or prius its nice. But it does not deserve the integra badge.
I bought a brand new Mitsubishi Outlander In 2010. I really did like it. February 2011 I went to the Chicago Auto Show and Mitsubishi was handing out little die cast outlanders as keepsakes, but it wasn't just for the Outlander, it was to promote the Evolander they had on display. It's was so sick, An Outlander with aero, body kit, I think they were onto something way back then. I think the Evolander could have saved the Mitsubishi that everyone loved.
I can appreciate the new civic si but they are litterally slower than a 2010 si and cost nearly 10k more. Im not sure how honda managed to pull that off. The only new "cheap" car I really like is the gr86 but I ordered mine a whole year ago and haven't gotten a delivery date yet so I am starting to get a little frustrated.
You're worried ab the Civic being slow, so you ordered a gr86?? For the price I hope.
@@edjackson4389 The gr86 is actually slightly faster plus for a similar price you can do skids. I know its still slow tho lol. I just searched the civic msrp and its 37k Cad I thought it was only 30k damn. I ordered the premium gr86 for 35k all in
Same. Ended up just getting the BRZ.
@@supresmooth I might have to at this point, I like the way the gr86 looks better but its not a deal breaker
@@michaelrutley5438 I made a post on the GR86 reddit with all of the part number variances between the two models for the front bumpers for anyone that feels like swapping.
As a new Integra owner I agree with everything you said. It’s nothing to write home about but it does exactly what it is suppose to do. Name it something different and it would have had a completely different reaction. It’s the perfect daily driver for someone who wants a civic si but doesn’t want all the red interior
Totally agree, as an actual car it’s great. But they literally only fucked up with the name lol
As someone with a 2020 Si I think the stereo is probably the only good part and that is kinda sad
@@RCXDerp Meanwhile I can't even afford a Civic Sport hatch with the manual.
7k miles on my 6 speed in 48 days. I’ve done so much with the car and have loved every minute.
When you don’t let shit bother you, you just end up enjoying things in life. That’s why I ended up with my Integra. I brushed it off until I woke up one Saturday and went in for a test drive.
Limited slip differential on the twisties, and 41.7 mpg on a long highway trip, all while being able to carry a hilarious amount of stuff.
The “you’re not a real enthusiast” gatekeeping bs is not only false, but childish. Keep enjoying the drive.
I had a ‘94 Integra LS in HS and now a 2023 Integra, it’s an amazing daily driver for the PNW. It really is the perfect car for me, fun enough, reliable and practical. I don’t even think they fumbled the name tbh, Integras have always been slightly more upscale Civics and that’s exactly what this one is.
I've been a car enthusiast nearly my entire life. I've been following your channel since the early smurf days while I was in high school, but lately I've almost lost all interest in the industry as a whole. Used enthusiast cars have become way overpriced. New vehicles are already expensive, but it feels like manufactures are spitting in your face when they advertise a car's MSRP, but you can't even get it for that price because of dealership markups. I'm disappointed in general, and with how expensive everything else has become, I'll most likely set this interest aside until I'm closer to my 40s.
when you get away from this hobby you find there is more money around to go do other things it's kinda nice
My theory is since the elites control this world they want all cars to be boring both performance and appearance wise. That’s why car companies are forced to go electric and why you also see mainly FWD and AWD cars with very few cars being RWD. The boring corporate city worker FWD cars are the norm and trying they’re trying to push that agenda so hard similar to how these same people want us to eat ZE BUGS and not have home ownership
Crazy times indeed. A homie got a used si for more than what it cost new...
There are still awesome cars to be had that aren’t ‘JDM Legend’ vehicles. Imo people are looking into the wrong vehicles at the wrong time but I do agree with you somewhat. It isn’t an affordable hobby anymore.
@@CancelledMcCree This. European stuff weirdly is not super pricey right now. But some old japanese trash (like literally clapped cars) is way overpriced.
My dad bought an SSR brand new in 2005. Had the 6.0 in it. I was 21 at the time and LOVED driving that thing. Fast as hell and very cool (at the time, at least). My dad let me take it on a 500+ mile road trip and loved every minute of it. The SSR will always hold a special place in my heart.
Evs are the biggest disappointment
Maybe like the mustang EV, but new evs are fine imo
@@Ash-bx6kq agreed
Hyundai is the biggest disappointment.
@@ramonbriones4487 the new sports compact is really good tho
@@Ash-bx6kq nah Teslas are junk, they're the Ikea furniture of cars and the Chevy Bolt is an abomination.
I kinda liked the SSR. I liked it when GM and others had those short runs of specialized vehicles (GNX, Typhoon, 454SS, the SS vehicles in the mid 2000's, etc.) Those SSR trucks are about as rarely seen as the retro Ford T-bird.
I have an 07 impala SS. Love it. The transmission is a little on the weak side, but it's still going strong at 215k miles. I like to call it my couch strpped to a v8. It's very comfortable.
Ford used to do that stuff too. There's not enough profit margin in there for them to want to do it anymore, I assume.
The ssr is hideous though.
Exactly. Hardly no one remembers the Chevy Blazer from those old ass models he showed. The most popular Blazer models looked like a boring pair of Lego blocks on wheels, just like the new one. If Chevy puts a LS in one and brings back the Typhoon name, then people will see the resemblance to what they loved about it.
9:33 I’m just glad Maserati is actually improving and going back to being good again. The Ghibli was terrible (or so I’ve heard), but newer models like the MC20, new GT and Grecale seem a lot more well sorted
The grecale is terrible lol
@@robloxcreator437 u just saying shit in a sore ass attempt to piss me off, or do you have actual experience and/or reviews to back that up?
@@mrsoisauce9017 the car looks like a ford puma in the front and the car looks like a jaguar E pace. And the new granturismo legit has a ripped off Interior of the grecale. Not my attempt to make u mad but I just dont like it.
@@robloxcreator437 that is just ur opinion tho. It does not make the car objectively terrible. It just means you don’t like it. Or at least, u don’t like its design. I do, on the other hand. And no matter what anyone says about the design, there can be no denying that the build quality on the Grecale has to have taken a step up from the previous generation of Maseratis that came before it. What it lacks in design (in your opinion) it makes up for in quality of build. It actually uses a Maserati built engine, and it is built to be a luxurious touring car. Same with the Maserati GT. They’re also fun to drive as well, albeit not as fun as something like a Porsche or a Lotus. So in my book, I’d say that constitutes a fair improvement over last generation’s Maseratis. They’re not just shitty BMW/Audi/Mercedes competitors anymore. They’re solid Porsche/Lotus alternatives. Easily the Mercedes-Benz of the premium-sports car brands (Porsche, Maserati, Lotus)
@@mrsoisauce9017 Trust me I love maserati man. We own a 2017 maserati quattroporte sq4 and its a blessing to own. Best v6 noise ever. And hey i love the maserati mc20 tho. I dont hate the whole lineup what they have planned.,
I was a valet for years in downtown Portland in a tiny lot. All the club members had fancy cars but the Ghibli was to park, had the most sensitive parking sensors of any car I have been in. Drove it down a super tight row and it beeped on both sides the entire time and super loud. I got out laughing because it wouldn't stop until I shut the damn thing off.
The real disappointment is everyone going ev and completely eliminated the option to go v8. Gonna be all ev across the board soon cars will have no personality no more ev are cool but everyone will have the same car with a jbl audio exhaust system
They don’t have a choice and besides you guys who constantly make this complaint don’t buy the product either remember the Chevy ss?
@@heroforhire6921 Yep. Almost bought a chevy ss went coyote f150 instead and i get it manufacturers are forced to go ev. Still sucks. Roads are gonna be super stale in the future
I agree but manufacturers don't really have a choice Plus us car enthusiast don't buy anything new anyway we buy it when it's 10 years old and depreciate it because that's one our 95% broke asses can afford it either that or you have other complications such as you have a family so a two-door sports car doesn't make sense and if you bought it the wife's divorce paper is hanging from the roof
@@heroforhire6921I constantly “make this complaint”, and drive a Mustang GT, so there’s that.
With that said, I loathe the thought of government forcing every company to go electric
Car culture will likely die with ICE, and what little remains will likely be dealt a final blow when governments decide to mandate autonomous cars.
I love SSRs. The perfect truck for non-truck guys. It came out when I was 5, and I think it perfectly complimented the C5 corvette at the time. Still love it 20 years later.
We need more of these! And also a list of the cars that genuinely impressed you! :)
The biggest disappointment for me was Chrysler making the "new" 300c instead of just swapping the hellcat engine in it like everyone has been asking for years. Maybe they could hit up Khal_SRT and give him some more supplies and a team so he can make custom handmade limited production hellcat 300's with Chrysler's stamp of approval. They could have given the Mopar fans a lot more than a few tuned hellcats with crazy paint jobs and a 392 300 to say a final goodbye to the amazing hemi v8.
The last call hellcats were so disappointing. I think that they should've brought back the superbird/Daytona for those but that's just me
Exactly, as a first gen 300c owner I would love a 300 hellcat. I've always said if I had the money I would buy the 300 hellcat over the challenger/charger.
The thing about the Z for me is that it is so similar to my 370, there’s no way I’d spend the money to upgrade. If you look inside the car, it’s an identical layout, just updated. So many shared parts. You can really tell it’s the same platform, but modernized. The new engine is great, but I paid $25k for a low mile, 1 owner 370Z w/ sport package in November. I’d take that all day over spending $50k on an updated version.
For me is that it's soft, it's not a Hardcore sport car, even a camaro is faster at track at the same price
Yes but Nissan is broke I mean the only options I could see is kill off the z or do what they did and let's be honest if you're a company and you can only really develop one decent platform it's going to be the electric one because that's where things are going for better or worse like it or not
The end of your comment also highlights why most car companies don't really make dedicated sports cars anymore that are relatively affordable why would I get the new one that I can just get the old used one then next thing you know you can't buy them at all
feels like this with audi, the new cars are almost identical interiors just with touch screens instead of buttons
@@braziliansheetbox2497 yeah but the Camaro has more power and torque AND the world class Alpha chassis. I had a 2018 2SS and that thing was fantastic.
the 6 gen Camaro had so much potential coming off the hype of the 5th gen, but chevy abandoned it for the c8 corvette😢
Actual tragedy, from what I've seen those cars are amazing on track, drag, everything. It's really a shame they didn't get their chance.
chevy needs to work on their styling
@@XxMusclecarsxX the ZL1 is beautiful and in my opinion a perfect car. but i don’t know what they were thinking with the current SS and RS models
The biggest disappointment about the Z was the price. It was marketed as being “significantly cheaper” than the 4 cyl Supra, but it wasn’t. And the 6 cyl Supra blows it out of the water. Fully loaded for 50+, I’m spending the extra 2 or 3 grand and buying a Supra.
As a diehard Sentra SE R enthusiast, the new Sentra Nismo was a major let down
all they did was take the mediocre 1.6L engine from the Juke, stuffed it in a Sentra, gave it dealer installed body flares and called it a day, and to make matters worse they offered it with the godawful CVT transmission
The 22 WRX is iffy looks wise, but the suspension setup and power delivery is sooooo much better than the previous gen. Really surprised me because I just expecting a similar driving car with a slightly nicer interior.
The engine is also easier to make power with than any other wrx, or sti for that matter
the 22 wrx is the best platform subaru has made in a long time, and any real subaru fan would appreciate the plastic cladding on the sides as we actually use subarus for what their made for. im really glad subaru is trying to step away from the ultra cringe stance boy community and instead go back to their roots
I remember seeing the first Gen eagle talon this back when it came out.....that was a sweet looking car. Then a friend had a black 2nd Gen Eclipses 2.0 nonturbo, and it looked pretty good. After that I worked with a guy who had a red turbo model...it was quick for 1999-2000 compared to Honda prelude and Toyota celica gts. I also had a Plymouth laser 2.0, I put a cold air on it and I beat a few contour svt's and tiburons.
A guy I work with has a turbo Plymouth laser and it’s a little beat up body wise but it rips, makes just over 400hp. Never seen one until I started working with him like 6 months ago
My first car was a 94 eclipse, I spent all weekend detailing it OCD style. I had to wait until Monday to get dmv stuff than drove it to my friends, we went on a cruise and on the way back I look at my rear view mirror to see if my friend was behind but all I saw was a huge cloud of smoke. I was like,” what the hell” but me and my friend were laughing because i barely drove it for an hour and the engine or head gasket blew on me. Went back to the used car lot the next day and drove off in an 84 merc 300 turbo diesel with 350k on the odometer but that car lasted me the rest of my high school years, doors closed with the merc crisp click still.
Good review of the cars we never missed.. :) Thanks
I remember seeing a later model eclipse at the skatepark when I was a kid, I thought it was kind of cool back then but once I learned what they were I was sadly disappointed. Also the new integra was just sad, Its litterally just a tlx🤣
They just took a civic SI and said let's make it a lil nicer
@@GraceTheTDI sooo, they made an Integra out of it
@@istvanlorinczi2817 in a way, but integras aren't known for being the 4 door, and afaik there hasn't been a type s in 4, just the coupe. So when the type s is out that would be wrong for it
I owned a 3G eclipse for 5 years. I liked it and it was reliable and able to get me from point A to B, but I do wish I was able to get a 2G at time. When I bought it in 2014 it had relatively low miles and in pretty good shape, little rust on it.
I still see the same surface-level complaints over and over again about the new WRX and it's honestly tiring. Does anyone on the internet have an original thought anymore? Yes, it has a bigger motor with only 3 more horsepower, but people are too hung over the brochure. The factory tune is so much more livable, the engine is overbuilt (only running 12 PSI of boost compared to 16 PSI from the last gen), it's relatively easy to squeeze power from the FA24, and the car overall just drives better. The only two points I will concede are the exterior design (which is subjective and also consider that all generations following the GC have been hated for their designs before being accepted later anyways), and the gatekeeping of features by the GT trim (which hopefully Subaru does address).
The SSR is a good looking truck imo. Its different and unique. I like that its a convertible too. Always wanted one
When I saw the ssr the year it came out as a kid around 10 or so I thought it was cool as hell mostly cause I heard the engine dude was probably in his late 20s and had straight piped it.
Not being able to disable traction control is a deal breaker for me. That the sole reason I got a performance pack car when I bought my SHO
💯 Marinus 👍. First thing I do is TC off - balancing off the AWD split ... and with H&R lowering springs, does wonders for the handling. No torque steer, no dive. Superior highway cruiser.
Id have to add the new corvette too, especially getting rid of the manual on it.
Waited to see the new Z and the 2024 GT release before I ended up buying a 2023 GT Premium. Definitely made the right call.
I did the same!!👍🏻
Make cars fun again
So much this. Cars keep getting faster and faster, but they sacrifice the fun factor in order to do so. Long gears, terminal understeer, numb steering, etc. The last few holdouts are the "entry level" cars (86 twins, Miata, Elantra N, etc), and while they're great, they aren't the spazballs their predecessors were. Want a modern, moderately affordable, hair on fire spazfest like the Evo? Good luck.
@@bigjaydogg3384 “fake evo” owner here, traded my 12 wrx in for my 14 evo brand new. Test drove everything in the 40k price range. The evo was the only car that “felt” connected to the road and engaging to actually drive. Coming up on year 9 of ownership and don’t regret it at all 🤘
@@bigjaydogg3384 Yep, you can drive any 90's regular-a$$-traffic car and it feels more connected than most modern "sports cars". I really wish we could get simple cars without 7000 bull$hit electronics nowadays. Just a 2.0 naturally aspirated engine and a 6 speed rod shifter... Speed is not equal to fun.
Yup! Make them smaller so you can see over the hood.
To be fair the car that I was the most dissapointed in when I drove it for the first time was the new Suzuki Jimny.
I thought that I would love it , since I have a soft spot for the old one and the Samurai. But nothing in the brand new 2020 model that I tested was good except the body and paint. I couldn't find a comfortable position to sit in it , it felt like I was driving a fridge on wheels , the lane keep assist woudn't turn off all the way and was making me nervous and to top it all I really thought that I would love the manual trans , but I hated it. The one I tested had only 1500 miles on it , but it felt broken from the factory . I just couldn't get a smooth gearshift out of it.
It was also painfully slow . Mind you my actual car at the time had only 75 hp and it felt like a rocketship comparred to that Jimny. Still breaks my heart to this day , because I wanted to love it , but it wasn't my cup of coffee.
Where do you live where they sell jimnys? They aren't available in the US
Great video, hit the nail on the head! I was a 90's kid so loved all the JDM legends from that era. In the early to mid 2000's, the Integras/RSX's, Eclipses, 240's, Z's, WRX's etc were still cool. But after that all the cars either got old or some brands dropped off the performance radar entirely. The Japanese brands failed to stay interesting to people in that demographic. I kinda moved onto the Germans since then and have had M's, AMG's, Audi S' and Porsches for the last decade. I'm glad that the Type-R, Integra, new Z and Supra finally came back(in some form) but it's not something I want as a 30-something year old and your average person doesn't have room for more than 2 or 3 cars. Speaking of the Supra, I have had other B58 powered BMW's though. I can imagine the Supra, especially with the available manual now is a great driver.
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The front corner of a Nissan GTR (the first car you see in this video) always reminded me of a 3rd gen Mitsubishi Eclipse.
Who remembers that Dave Chappelle skit with the chick dancing in the Mitsubishi? 😂 Shit was hilarious
The Dart actually had an SRT variant in the works and it was so close to coming out, but the car as a whole was axed due to poor timing of them launching the car in the first place. It was rumored to feature the 2.0T MultiAir turbo, used in the Giulia. This was when SUV and truck sales were really skyrocketing and it just never had a chance to shine...
Also, you had (what looks like from the low resolution) either a base SE or SXT as a rental with the automatic and 2.slow engine I'm guessing lol. No wonder you thought it was lackluster; that's the worst combo. Albeit none of the powertrains would 'blow you away', the 2.4 or the 1.4T are far better engines.
I saw that Starion/Conquest in the beginning and was reminiscing. I had two of them, they were such fun cars.
The new Impreza. It's probably the best looking Subaru since 2007 and they don't offer it with a manual.
SSR shouldve just been the Holden Ute brought over to the US
With my 3rd gen eclipse I had in college, I swapped doors from a Dodge Stratus, it's the same door and interiors as a Stratus. I wanted to remove the ugly fish gill doors. I had fun with my 3rd gens. I still want to revisit that platform as I still have the desire of 3000gt vr4 swapping a 3rd gen eclipse.
I have a 3000gt and thought of doing the same thing in the opposite way, if you go for that just know that it's gonna be a lot of work since the 3000gt has the transmission on the opposite side then all the other engines (except the 3.5L Montero)
Very good list man
We need a part 2 for this as the only thing this list was missing are more cars
The new “Integra” - from a former ‘01 GSR owner. I’m hopeful for the new Z…we shall see. I still think it should’ve been called a 300ZX🙄
That would have been much better, but the average person would wonder why the number got smaller 😂
I think it should have been called the Nissan 300z twin turbo tbh. The zx designation died after the z32, however since it has twin turbos they could’ve done some sort of homologation to the z32 like call it the 300z twin turbo
@@Weimerica8841 Perhaps, but God forbid someone actually would have to make the intellectual connection between the number and the engine displacement 😁. That's been the trend for the Zs for a loooong time. Still waiting to see one on the road... and subsequently smoke it with it's 30-year-older brother... just gotta get it back together, of course.
@@ericr7162 I agree... this would have been acceptable, too. I mean, they could have done worse *cough... 400Z* Don't get me started on that, though, lol. Social media ignorance at it's finest!
I agree with all your points on the Z but I still love mine, definitely room for improvement but I love it. Everyone was complaining about the transmission but I haven’t had a problem. Love the video, I agree with most cars on this list lol.
Agreed it's a fantastic car, and if it weren't so hard to buy one for a reasonable price, I think it would have not been on this list honestly.
@@AzureCruxi absolutely agree, I was lucky enough to have ordered one the day after it was revealed so I didn’t pay much over MSRP
Scared me when I saw the 05-09 S197 Mustang in the beginning of the video! Lol
200% agree about the new Z. I get confused everytime I think about it. Cars usually do better in person but I remember being disappointed when I saw it for the first time at the Nissan event.
I'm happy with my '21 STI. My car was amongst the last STIs to be made according to the dealer. My dude works at the local Subaru dealer and got me a good deal on one that was fresh off of the truck.
Nice congrats 👏
The new civic. Its getting to close to the Accord in size. When I first saw one I actually thought it was a new Accord
The SSR was one of my “dream” cars when I was growing up in the early 2000s.
My friend had the Dart SRT - Aftermarket upgrades etc etc, cute BOV that did the typical zutututu. We were doing over a buck around a corner on the freeway in Sac and handled it well around the twists and turns
the infiniti q50/60 from the g's is pretty disappointing. depending on the model its just an updated trans with no lsd option. nissan has really went the direction of open diffs for no reason
Dodge Journey. What a saaaaad car.
Anything pre 2015 dodge
wow man, you nailed this perfectly imo.
Crossover Eclipse? Wow!! Who thought of that? Great list! The Maserati I know nothing about but the rest I am with you 100%.
For me the Ford lightning, it's an ok truck by itself but it goes back to the problem of stealing the name of a really great thing and putting it on the complete opposite of that thing. When I found out there would be a new lightning I knew I'd never own one but I was happy to see it come back just for it to end up a crew cab electric truck, opposed to a single cab with a supercharged v8
Couldn’t agree more the ford lightning is a performance street truck! I was so excited because I thought it could possibly introduce new muscle trucks like a rt ram with a hellcat engine but no the Name got butchered 🤣
As a current owner of the new wrx the only thing disappointing about the new one is the fact that the rear bumper is so ugly. I’ve had it for almost a year now and I still can’t get over it. (I can’t wait for the refresh hopefully they fix it.)
Another thing about the wrx is that it’s at 271 hp stock. With the gains people are getting with just ots tunes, Subaru could have easily gave it 300hp from factory with warranty, but as Subaru said themselves because their competition kept their hp relatively the same they feel they didn’t need to raise the bar, and that’s just a shame.
I never quite understood the hate around the new WRX people should be glad that in 2023 you can still buy a new manual sedan that isn't some $200,000 Porsche before you know those are going to be pretty hard to get
@@TwoDollarGararge for sure, people should really appreciate the fact that the wrx is still a affordable option, because there’s less and less option throughout the years , and the wrx has stood the test of time. the fact it’s still around for ppl to enjoy in 2023 with a base price of 30k speaks volumes. People are Harsh sometimes for no reasons even though most enthusiasts base vehicles are unaffordable.
@@Baozer23 for a while there was Hyundai N line Honda and Subaru and now it's just Hyundai and Subaru In typical car enthusiast fashion people will realize this as soon as it's gone
granted, i'm not a fan of newer cars but I think the VB is just hideous. mechanically it's supposedly better than the VA in every aspect which is good since my only gripe about the VA mostly stems from the ECU, but like the VA the facelift was a great improvement over the 15-17, maybe the VB facelift will look better but I won't hold my breath
@@aspenGF8 true, expectation should remain low so we don’t get disappointed lol
FINALLY, somebody who doesn't talk like some weird carnival robot. Great video. I'll be back.
I somehow erased that crap from my mind 1:36. Thanks a lot!! LOL!
I don’t think the new Z should be on a list about the most disappointing cars of the last 20 years tbh. The issue with not being able to turn off the traction control can be fixed by removing a chip. The Chevy SSR is actually cool Ute/pickup thing
the motivation you give is amazing
I think making the Integra rear wheel drive would have been the perfect way to differentiate it from the Civic. A rear wheel drive civic is something I have seen a lot of people ask for so I think the integra which is meant more for driving enthusiast would be perfect for this.
Sounds great, but then it would've started at $50k. Honda doesn't have a small rwd car platform to start from. They're not going to build a one off when the whole idea is platform sharing between 2 brands.
@@danielisbell Nor do they have a rwd manual transmission so it would probably be more than $50k, which isn’t realistic in any way.
3:51 Nice SC bro
I have Mitsubishi Galant turbocharged 4WD with manual transmission. It's a fun car to drive at night on the weekends with my son.
It's just sad to see that we'll never get the same Mitsubishi that we used to love.
I would’ve say the first Gen Scion Frs and Brz when they very first came out. I was super excited to see them on the streets and then I test drive one. I wasn’t very impressed with them but I had driven a turbocharged Brz and I was like this is what they needed. Then I drive the newest model 86 and Brz and I have to say. Even tho I got a Mazda 3 turbo all wheel drive as my daily. I had more fun in the 2021 Gt86 than the Mazda because how easily it wants to go sideways and the handling.
I love the new wrx
I actually miss Pontiac to be honest, and one of the two of the vehicles that I didn't like were the Pontiac G5 (because i thought they were going to do something similar to the Cobalt SS) and then i also wasn't a fan of the Pontiac Solstice.
Nailed it on the new Z way too much money to not have a LSD. They overpriced the essentially 350Z with an engine swap
new wrx isn't that bad. power per bolt-on is the best it's ever been in a subaru so far and cosmetics are already easy to fix
depending on your tastes. I could live with the painted wheel arches and i'm sure there are less ugly rear bumpers in development but I still think the grille is way too big and headlights too small
Gotta disagree with the WRX. The fa24 motor is a massive improvement. It's underrated from the factory. They dyno stock around 265whp, which is close to the 271bhp rating.
Internals are also way beefier. Cylinder walls and rods are twice as thick as the fa20. With an intake and a 93 octane tune, people are getting 350whp. Add an intercooler and E30 tune, easily above 400whp. People are running quarter mile times in the low 11s with just those mods. This costs about $2.5k, so you can have a car that runs low 11s for under $35k if you buy a base model.
To get these numbers with any of the previous boxer engines, it would cost $5k and be unreliable. The only solution to get those numbers reliably was a built engine which would be greater than $10k.
You forgot to include Ford in this:
-Lighting thats an EV
-Maverick thats a 4 door truck?!
The traction control on the Z is an easy fix, same as the 370 or the G, you cut a wire and put a switch on it and you're good to go. Totally agree though that it should come standard. Its also a boat, I test drove it and it felt more sloppy than a stock 370. I was really hoping to replace my G37 with the new Z, but looks like I'm waiting, especially since Motorvate DIY is so close to working out GTR gauges for the G.
Its kinda weird to be disappointed about car based off how some could modify it lol. Tho when it comes to Eclipse’s I almost here nothing about its merits as a car on its own just what happens when you basically make a different car out of it.
The rest I can understand, even the Integra and Z, cars I think folks are too hard on for odd reasons
Definitely the dodge ev concept. Not only is dodge of all companies abandoning the muscle car but they also decided to drag the charger name through the dirt while canceling the challenger
Electric cars are the future The government is mandating it it is going to happen Dodge like every other car company is going to have to adapt or die
For reference emissions standards are going up in the US fairly soon to an average of about 40mpg I don't know many v8s that can get 40 MPG or many v6s for that matter either maybe a 3 banger
@@TwoDollarGararge that’s corporate average. With that said why the need for 250+ hp family sedans and crossovers? They should save the big horsepower for those who will actually appreciate it.
They could accomplish this with a mix 100 hp ICE grocery haulers and hybrids, and electrics.
But no, I guess that would be too much of a compromise, something that seems to be a relatively foreign concept in this day and age.
@@blacksunshine1089 because weight is an issue most major SUVs even Cuvs weight 4000lb + now and when you're pulling that much weight power is key gone are the days of 2000lb sedans The other reason is acceleration Even in a normal car it's nice having a lot of power to not plan a merge or pass someone driving like an idiot on the highway because you want to get away from them
Several years ago, we rented a Red Mitsubishi Eclipse for a trip from Northern Florida to Virginia via the Blue Ridge Mountains. Got a few "Nice Car" from folks along the way. It was all right, but never wanted to buy one fortunately.
Someone whispers in the background ...
_Mustang Ecoboost_
I hate when manufacturers do that scummy price thing they way Nissan did with the 400Z
lmao. The commercial for the eclipse gave me flashbacks to the Chapelle show sketch
What were they thinking w/the Blazer. Maybe they saw the Mach-E and thought, “We can fail even better than that. We’ll make a Mazda CX-9!”
I hate that the technology has grown so much in cars. I'd much rather it be mechanical than driving a computer. Give me a stripped model with manual windows and no cameras or the other bells n whistles
that's illegal things like backup parking and cameras are now legally required post 2015
Pretty much everything wearing a Fiat badge in the USA was a disappointment. Considering their latest sales figures, I'm shocked they are still technically in business here.
I love that literally both of my cars are on this list
THE FORD LIGHTNING. I fell in love with the lightning when I saw it on fast and furious. I’m already a big Ford guy, my first truck was a 95’ ford lightning. Loved the truck. You can imagine how excited I was when Ford announced they were developing a new one. (Clearly going to be a supercharged coyote with a 10 speed) and it’s an electric piece of junk.
David, those weird dimples in the 3rd gen eclipse doors were actually reinforcement points. Amd because of these, my eclipse SAVED my life when I was T Boned by someone that ran a red light. The car was a v6, 5 speed manual. And had the full leather premium interior. That being said it was a pain to work on with a FWD v6.
The first car that came to my mind was Celica and you nail it.
I have to say that I'm with you on most of your thoughts!
Chrysler Prowler. Cool roadster with a mini van V6. The hemi swapped ones are cool though.
What’s the song when you’re talking about the Dodge Dart ?
I wonder on the 400z if you shut of traction control then hold the white button behind brake pedal to shut off stability control like the 370z.
What was that ticket site that you talk about
Does the nee 400Z not have the button above the gas pedal to turn off the traction control like the Q50 does? From what I've been told it had pretty much the same drivetrain as the newer Q50.
SSR’s get the same reaction from me as a PT Cruiser. “Huh. That’s weird. But glad it exists because it’s so weird”.