I Took The Rivian R1T Up The Highest Paved Road In North America! Here's The Efficiency On Mt. Evans
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- Jordan takes the Rivian up Mt. Evans! 28 miles up 7,000 ft. of elevation. He examines the efficiency going up and coming down. Enjoy the views!
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props to the cyclist. That's a brutal climb
First thing I thought about! Cycling that road. I'd definitely attempt it.
Especially above Summit Lake. Did the ride Echo Lk to summit with my dad when I was about 16. 40-lb Schwinn Varsity bike of the day (1970s).
Have ridden it a couple times, seeing mountain goats 20ft away on switchbacks near the top is pretty cool!
I had a similar experience driving a Bolt yesterday to a trailhead, gaining about 3,500 feet of elevation down gravel forest roads. On the way down, the 30-minute drive down the hill gained about 5% battery, a charging rate roughly equivalent to actually plugging the car into a level 2 charger. The fact that this happened in spite of the fact that I was driving 20 mph down gravel roads - with the air conditioner running - is quite remarkable.
This was GREAT! Loved seeing it. For such a large, heavy EV, the R1T achieved impressive efficiency. The regen was a real winner!
The Rivian just keeps getting better and better. Amazing test!
at 13:15 I thought you were going to test the R1T in the most extreme way yet...
The road to Haleakala in Maui goes from sea level to 11,000 feet in 38 miles I believe so I think that would be Americas fastest climbing road
I drive to the base of Mt. Evan’s every day. My job is at 10,000ft. You actually drove past it in this video
Your parents were good sports! Great video, terrific illustration of an EV in the wild and it’s capabilities. Knock out scenery, too.
If the infotainment / calculation relies on connectivity..... they need to partner with starlink for when cell drops.
no they just need to make the system better with local data store.
A great test! I'm building an EV truck conversion in Idaho Springs, this is going to be my benchmark test when I'm done to figure out how much worse that Rivian I did 😂
I'd love to see the truck when you're done with it! In fact I'd love to film it and compare if you're open to it!
That's awesome. Always figured it must not be too hard to gut the driveshaft, trans and engine, hook up a motor directly to the rear diff and then put a big-ass LFP battery pack into the truck frame. Honestly not sure why people don't do more EV truck conversions, would be a great vehicle to have at a farm to tow stuff around short distances, or make trips into town.
Loved the coverage of the R1T handling a huge mountain climb. I guess Rivian will need to do something to include offline mapping so the average traveler heading to various sites can rely on their system, but still not bad. I loved the sites and the educational part too. Now, I'll have to bring my Fisker Ocean Ultra (when I get it in October 2023) and drive it up Mt. Evans with the family! My all-time favorite was that you were sharing this experience with your parents, and glad to see they had a great time too! Nice Job!
Enjoyed this. We drove to Pike's Peak summit last year. We'll have to do Mt. Evans next time out there.
Absolutely awesome….thank you for the learning and the adventure!
Really appreciate you and the channel!!
Always like your delivery and thoughts, Jordan-nicely done!
The more I see that truck, the more I feel terrible that I cancelled the reservation at the $75K… That is a sweet looking vehicle, my order wast the white with the 22’s with the Ocean Interior.
I did a similar personal test with my VW ID.4 from Tacoma, WA (Elev. 100ft) to Chinook Pass (Mt Rainier, elev. 5,430ft) last month. 75 miles each way and I averaged something like 2.3m/KWh going up and something like 4.4m/KWh coming home. Very impressed with the results. It removed my fear of driving my EV into the mountains.
Also, I need to mention as a former Coloradan, I just love watching your trips into the mountains. I get a little homesick seeing the beautiful views bringing up my own memories. Thank you.
Great video. I can’t believe this video was 17 minutes! Beautiful and relaxing. Your parents were great too!
So HAPPY HAPPY to watch you enjoy the RIVIAN____great journey!
I'm also a RIVN holder!
this was SO COOL. loved seeing Joran and his parents and the area.
Kinda wish they would make the summit a restaurant again
It's nice to see this. Some people have had great luck with their Rivens and others not so much. One of my freinds in Wisconsin has a Riven that he got about 6 weeks ago. It has been a freaking nightmare for him.
Cool Tour! Great view from the mountain. 👍🏼
Love it! Now I have to do the same trip once I got my R1T
Really nice trip. Parents seemed pleased
Beautifully shot. Entertaining and informative.
Good work Jordan!! 👏
Wow 😮. Amazing drive
Great video, good vibe on the background music too
Love your videos, Jordan!
Major props to the people biking. I can’t even get up my local hill 😀. Nice thumbnail Jordan not bad for a guy from Columbia, mo. Glad your parents enjoyed!
Great video and superb views.
Beautiful view thank you
Cool video and interesting results. We did Mt Evans during a 1992 Colorado visit. We had a Lincoln Towncar loaner, an early 4.6 EFI that kept vapor locking and stalling during the ascent. We'd restart and drive another mile before stalling again. It took over an hour for those 20 something miles! Cool summit but I don't remember the castle in the sky...
Remember when I was in Denver and thought about doing but had no time back then... and 14200 feet is insane, I did some jogging in Denver not used to even that height and never had such trouble to keep my breath :)
Nice. I rode my bicycle along the same route a few years ago
So an average of 2.8 mi/kWh for the whole trip. 1.05 kWh/mi going up, and -0.33 kWh/mi coming back down. Average calculated as (1.05-0.33)/2, = 0.36 kWh/mi, or 2.78 mi/kWh.
Thanks very much for filming that trip. I was very much looking forward to seeing your experience with regenerative braking on the way down, but you left that part out :-(
Did you ever need to use the brake pedal or was it one pedal driving on the way down? Could you tell the difference between using brakes and using regen? Did you need to limit your speed on the way down? Were there signs telling trucks to use low gear?
Beautiful Video guys!
I think your calculations at the end were wrong. On the way down your efficiency was 3 miles per kw used which is very good.
GarySAK_ I think you’ve got it backwards. That’s 3 miles per kW ADDED. Nothing is USED to go downhill.
Great video. I was hoping the regen would add more back into the battery. Good to know what happens with regen. As another viewer indicated, it would have been nice to have more details about pedal braking or one pedal drive on the way down. Maybe you can include that in another video. It was nice to meet your parents. They seemed to enjoy the trip. Thanks.
Now Kyle is teaching his minions to do the stupid arms up thumbnail image. Terrific.
Love Mt Evans road.
Super cool car and fantastic nature 👍
Since your cell phone had service, can you use your phone as a Wi-fi hotspot to provide internet service to the Rivian?
Nice work! Parents were funny too! Wish I could take my 2022 MYP up the Santa Rosa Mtn to Idylwild! Or Lake Arrowhead / Bear Mountain! And those are 1/3 the height! Lol
Great video! Nice to see your folks - Will there be another Dave channel?!? 😉
Very sweet seeing you with the 'rents -- would've liked to have heard about whether friction brakes ever kicked in on some of the hairpins. Didn't love the speeded up downhill footage, had to look away from the screen.
I think with all the most recent EVs, you don't actually need friction brakes until you're near crawling.
Great view! 100 million likes for road trip with parents!!!!!
Mt Evans Summit Awesome And your Dad was accurate
Was wondering, other than not been able to calculate range, what other functions did the system lose once it lost phone coverage?
That was all I noticed. It wouldn't show any chargers or calculate range.
Great video mate. Great production, chill presentation.. well done. Would be tops to see the stats as text overlays on screen (can’t make the screen in the video), and convert to metric on the screen for all us Aussie viewers. 🙃 🇦🇺
Thanks for the feedback! I'll have to work that into future tests. Metric is the better way anyway. 😁
I totally agree with your dad I want one too
Dave guessed correctly on % on the way back so he wins a Rivian. Start saving!!
I would be curious how other EV do on this test. Especially the Lightening.
Every modern vehicle can handle the climb. My 1999 Camry did that road easily two years ago.
Used 27 kWh on the way up, gained 9 on the way down, so net used 18. Is that right?? That's about 3.05 mi/kWh overall, amazing! That's _more_ than you'd get at ~65mph on flat ground on the highway! I'm sure it helped going slow. Impressive!
This road is much like the Mt.Washington {N.H.}} auto road, narrow, twisty, and no guard rails, But you did get painted lines, sometimes. This mountain is the highest peak EAST of the Big River
tbh i'd be white knuckling the steering wheel too. in the first place I never would have agreed to do this. kudos to your badass parents.
Are those transition glasses?
I gained 17% in my model 3 SR+ driving down pikes peak.
Jordan, I enjoy all your commentaries. Good job again. I can’t believe cyclists are up there. Of course, I ride in The flatlands.
Do you know what the actual average energy consumption was for the whole trip?
Another perk is no brake pads were necessary for the decent.
Yes, the Rivian trip calculator needs work, it does not account for negative, in fact it only calculates in whole kWhs, even though the other units have decimals…so your mi/kWh calculation will change drastically as each of the first few kWhs roll over. Meanwhile the driver screen efficiency graph doesn’t have this problem.
You sounded a little out of breath up there, Jordan 🤣.
the tires looks pretty rough
indeed, it seems the R1T is not really good at regenerating.
teslabjorn tested a few EVs up and down a mountain and achieved a regen of 40-45%,
as compared to 30% for the Rivian.
When the Rivian loses its connection, could one teather off of a phone?
Jordan I gotta ask. Where can I get that hat??
At this point I feel like you guys are trying to keep up with TFL lol 😂
The info they give and tests they do are far superior over TFL.
TFL is what?
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A negative power usage trip like this is definitely an corner case so not accounting for it is somewhat understandable. First edge: people who live in mountainous areas. Second edge: people who reset the counter after every trip.
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Did it have to be paved? ( rhetorical)
Look at me! I'm just like the other guy and can't help myself and just throw my arms outstretched to each side in a thumbnail!!!
Was about to buy a ticket for the raffle. Not available in CA, amongst other states. CA being a huge EV MARKET. Why?
So, in an ICE vehicle, I have to use 1st and 2nd gears to control my downhill speed on that road. Does the R1T have anything similar? If not, how do you control speed without riding the breaks?
It’s all done by different levels of regenerative breaking. It is in fact much smoother than going low gear on an ICE and you still don’t use the friction breaks, and the energy generated during the downhill is deeded back to the battery.
This is one of the major advantages of battery electric vehicles.
Brakes = devices used to slow down your car.
Breaks = what will happen to your car if it won't slow down -aka after your brakes break-
@@h8GW sorry about the misspelling.
The Rivian has "Standard" or "High" regenerative braking. Which is similar to using lower gears to control downhill speed. Though I used throttle most of the way down, and it was still gaining energy because throttle input was less than what the truck wanted to do in 1PD.
No guard rails on a 2 lane slippery road.
And gas vehicles wear on the brakes on the way down too
Come on! Buy your Dad a Rivian!
Nice real world testing.
Take the Miata up........
Too bad you can't go at midnight and shine your headlights to the heavens. (Old MITM ref3rence, if you know you know).
Efficiency on the road would be somewhat better going down if you drove faster doing more coasting and less regen.
But you wouldn't gain any energy (especially if you say put it in neutral). Regen braking isn't an on or of type thing with one peddle driving. You can the speed you want to go with the peddle and it will apply Regen or power depending on what you want. So when going down hill instead of coasting and having to have the car speed up and break when it gets to fast you just kind of set the speed with the peddle and it will Regen as needed.
@@priceburnett Yes, but if you go faster you do more coasting and less regen. Coasting is more efficient: it doesn’t put energy into the battery instead it converts the potential energy directly to forward motion; this is more efficient at any reasonable speed. (Obviously, you can’t just put it in neutral on that road! )
The argument that coasting is more efficient than regen is true in the sense that driving on flat ground is always more efficient than driving up a large hill and back down again.
But, once you are already at the top of the hill, having already paid that energy to climb all the way up, you absolutely want to be regening on the way back down. If you drive faster and "coast", that simply means that your air resistance (which increases with the square of your speed) is higher, so the energy that would have gone back into the battery is instead lost to aerodynamic drag.
@@ab-tf5fl But the energy lost to aero drag at modest speeds is less than the losses in the battery. If you put X kWh into a battery you’re lucky to get 0.8X kWh back out. The additional Aero drag at 30 mph versus 25 mph is much less than that.
But the point of doing regen downwards is not to use the friction breaks, and so having a more controlled and secure drive. And as someone else pointed out, to get some of the energy back you already paid for. 😬
FYI. Highest paved road in North and Central America.
No person climbing the highest road would leave it on normal.
What are you suggesting?
I wish my parents were still alive.
Your answer going up T 9:35 , going down at 15:15 , used a lot less going down than going up due to regen.
You will soon be blessed.
You miss heard and it didn't use LESS but added back more than it used coming down. Coming down it ADDED 9kWh more than it started with at the top. So the down reading of using 3 miles per/kWh which is wrong since it net gained energy. He did say should have read a negative miles which is not really correct. EDIT: After thinking (do it 2x a day whether I need it or not) it should have said something like 2 miles per (negative) -kWh used.
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Please lose the plastic music. It detracts from the video, especially when it's an endless loop. The video was good, but the "music" was annoying.
I would never want a vehicle that is internet dependent!!!