F-15E Strike Eagle vs SU-35 Flanker - Which would win?
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- F-15E Strike Eagle vs SU-35 Flanker - Which would win?
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Today we are stacking up the United States’ F-15E Strike Eagle against SU-35 Flanker, and try to determine which would most likely win in a hypothetical match-up.
1. Specifications
The F-15E Strike Eagle is the latest and all-weather multirole strike fighter derived from the F-15 Eagle, which has long been hailed as the most successful fighter jet in the history, boasting an undefeated air-to-air combat record of more than 100 aerial victories. F-15E was first introduced in 1989. Around 513 F-15Es have been built so far with per unit cost of $138M. The F-15E is crewed by a pilot and a weapon systems officer. The empty weight of the aircraft is 45,000lb and it can take-off with maximum weight of 81,000lb. The jet is powered by 2 Pratt & Whitney low-bypass turbofan engines, which produce around 58,000 pounds of thrust combined. These engines can push the aircraft to top speed of 1,875mph. With ferry range of 3,500mi this aircraft can combat within the radius of 1,221mi. F-15E can climb at the rate of 833 ft/sec and can reach at maximum altitude of 65,000ft. The fighter jet comes with 11 Hardpoints. The aircraft is also armed with a 20mm 6-barreled rotary cannon.
On the other hand, SU-35 is based on Su-27 fighter jet. SU-35 was first rolled out in 2014. Around 119 SU-35s have been built so far with per unit cost of $91M. Operated by a crew of 1, the aircraft comes in at weight of 41,888lb and can take-off with maximum weight of 76,059lb. SU-35 is powered by 2 afterburning turbofan engines producing 64,000 pounds of thrust combined. With the help of these engines the aircraft can fly at top speed of 1,726mph. With ferry range of 2,800mi, the aircraft can conduct combat operations within the radius of 994mi. The jet can climb at the rate of 919 ft/sec and can reach at maximum altitude of 59,000ft. The aircraft is outfitted with 12 hardpoints in addition to a 30mm autocannon.
2. Maneuverability
F-15E's superior maneuverability and acceleration are achieved through low wing loading and high engine thrust-to-weight ratio. Low wing-loading combined with higher thrust-to-weight ratio enables the aircraft to turn tightly without…
In contrast SU-35 has huge lead in this category against its adversary. The aircraft is an exceptionally maneuverable machine, also credited as one of the most agile aircraft ever built…
3. Radar & Avionics
The F-15E have been upgraded with the APG-82 active electronically scanned array radar. The range of the radar is classified. However, some defense analysts believe that this radar has far greater range and performance as compared with the legacy radars…
On the other hand, SU-35 employs the powerful Irbis-E radar, which can even detect low-observable stealth aircraft, UAVs and missiles with RCS of 0.01m² at range of 56mi. It can detect 30 airborne targets with RCS of 3m² at range of 249mi and can engage 8 of them…
4. Firepower
The Strike Eagle is armed with combinations of air-to-air, air-to-surface and bombs on its 11 hardpoints. For BVR engagements, F15E can use AIM-120 with range in excess of 100mi. For short range, the aircraft can use AIM-7M and AIM-9X sidewinder missiles. The AIM-9X missile is capable to lock on to a target that is in its field of regard up to 90 degrees off-boresight…
On the other hand, SU-35 has 12 weapon stations, consisting of 2 wingtip rails and 10 wing and fuselage stations with a carrying capacity of 17,637lb in combinations of rockets, missiles and bombs. At medium range the SU-35 can use K-77M radar guided missiles with range of 120mi. For shorter range engagements, the R-74 infrared guided missile is capable of targeting “off boresight”…
Watch video for the detailed conclusion and know that which fighter jet is better? United States’ F-15E Strike Eagle or SU-35 flanker?
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@@imsavage2449 f/a18 not f18 it means fighter and attacker
Make a video on su30mki vs f16
And su 30mki vs rafale
This is laughable, the su35 is by far the most advanced 4th gen fighter
@@tnix80 f15 x exists bro
CZcams pilots will say their favorite plane will win easily, the real pilots of both these planes would be sweating profusely in a real engagement.
Not at all, the F-15 pilots will be cool and confident because the F-15 has already shot down over 100 Russian jets for no air-to-air losses in return, while the Russian pilots will be panicking because all that the entire Flanker family has ever shot down is... a couple of Migs #LOL
@@yusufn7467 On Feb. 25, 1999, in a pair of engagements, Ethiopian Su-27s would shoot down two MiG-29s. The next day, Eritrean MiG-29s shot down a pair of Ethiopian MiG-21s. Ethiopia would claim that a “Capt. Asther Tolossa” would shoot down a MiG-29, but the existence of Capt. Tolossa is disputed.
In March, Ethiopian Flankers claimed two more Eritrean Fulcrums.
The last encounters in that war between Fulcrum and Flanker would take place in May 2000. On May 16, Ethiopia claimed that one of their Flankers shot down an Eritrean Fulcrum. Two days later, another Eritrean Fulcrum was shot out of the sky by a Flanker. The war ended in June 2000 with Ethiopia re-claiming the seized territory, and holding on to it despite an international court ruling favoring Eritrea.
The SU -35 is superior plane
But USA has superior numbers (.Saturation attack )
Who would win ?
Roll the dice !
@@donaldmichaellumsden2714 superior to the f15. There's only a hundred or so su35s in existence compared to nearly 200 f22 raptors
@@kylealexander7024
100 SU -35 + 15 SU -57 .
And many more SU- 57 in production .
Raptors 174
I think with such a small gap between the jets and their capabilities that it comes down to their pilots skills and combat experience.
Not in today's wars they are killed before even being seen. The F15s are so much farther than the Russians in avionics it's ridiculous.
U have to account for thrust vectoring in close combat, 35 has a distinct advantage or the 22 would not have added thrust vectoring. It is a key component of 5g jets. Think SH-AWD VS front/rear wheel drive but in 3D.
su35 has X2 the thrust compared to f15ex
@Kaos nope. its thrust to weight ratio is still higher. can carry more payload and more agile faster than f15e
@Kaos it wont. F15E aero design is obsolete LMAO
After the collapse of Soviet Russia, US and former Soviet pilots held a friendly event in Russia where they showcased each others skill and aircraft that involved F-15's and Su-27's. From the sound of it, the Sukhoi's more than held their own. Eagle pilots looked surprised, startled, even embarrassed. No one claimed victory but you just got the feeling from their reactions and what was said that the Russian jets at least fared better than expected.
I read an article similar to what you're saying years ago , the Russians said that the SU27 was superior to the F15 in acceleration ,climb and manuoveribiliy. They also said that it was too easy to get behind the F15.
@@tgtg7182Yes then after that the us fighter jets got back and learn more training which now they fix or do more better, as at the sametime the su27 was so damn light compared to the f15 it was like a 2800lbs Porsche vs a 4500lbs hellcat XD.
Russian pilots when they first flew the SU27 where surprised by how agile it is one commented that he thought he was going to fall out of his seat by how agile it is. American pilots and Air Force higher ups who had a chance to go for a ride in one where surprised how well it handled compared to the American planes.
@@mitchjames9350 For comparison go and watch the reaction of Israeli pilots who first flew the F15 into combat. They were throughly amazed at a jet that they say practically flew itself. And American higher ups were impressed that the SU27 handled so well considering the fact that they were basic mechanical controls all over, not compared to American planes. Thats your addition. The F15 has an unmatched record consisting mostly of Russian planes. That tells the story of superiority right there.
@@rawpraise Old Russian planes flown by a weak enemy, yeah okay.
Exceptionalism is the USA's given right.
As many of my fellow commentators mentioned,
Pilot experience is very key when it comes to combat.
A plane can have all kinds of bells and whistles but if the pilots training and experience isn't up to par than it doesn't matter how well all the gadgets work.
Put both pilots are probably going to be awesome. It's not like they are gonna throw rookies up against such formidable opponents.
At some point the bells and whistles will come in handy.
I'm not sure how accurate dcs is but going up against a jet with thrust vectoring in a jet without is pretty tough.
having the guy in the back seat not distracted with flying the jet is a huge edge in the BVR game
I have always loved the F-15 Eagle. However, one must give credit where credit is due. Russian fighters, such as the Su-35, are phenomenal in their agility, and their ability to get to the fight quickly. Russian fighters are also very tough. With use of thrust vectoring and the immense power their engines produce, they are definitely formidable machines of war. I guess it really comes down to pilot skill and capabilities of the aircraft.
I would have to agree. I would not like to be the US (or Israeli) F-15E pilot who has to go up against an SU-35 flow by a Russian pilot. It's not real clear to me who'd win.
Totally agree with you
That’s true
It's simple....the better radar wins.
Back before the gulf war all we heard was how superior russian aircraft were to US fighters, that it would be a slaughter, they had the homefield advantage, many years experience and the fact that Saddam had purchased all the latest and greatest russian tech to use against the US.. from advanced radar to missiles etc.. well we found out very quickly that was all propaganda...looking back through time we can see that this is normal for their military to boast and make wild claims to bridge the huge dollar gap between military spending.. If they were so good then why does their only aircraft carrier need a couple tugboats to follow it around...how many times has it broken down and/or caught fire , if they cant operate a boat I doubt they can maintain their air fleets properly.
Love those F/A-18 shots creeping in. Especially, the Swiss one labeled F-15E :)
BOOOOO, the F/A-18's cameo appearance was unnecessary!
Damn...every time i see Sukhoi it reminds me at klingon bird of prey
Except it's not stealthy but it does have one thing in common with a bird of prey being used for a very long time (and still being somewhat effective)
But on field f-15 has sooted down su 35
@@spartanx9293 nothing is really invincible
@@gripen6512 I never claimed it was
@@gripen6512 besides that same description could be applied to the f-15 it has also been used for a very long time and it's still effective
The SU-35S Super Flanker destroys the F-15E Eagle to the ground.
A lot of comments from folks talking about how the SU-35 would be killed by the F-15 at multiple tens of miles range with AMRAAMs. People don't seem to understand that modern BVR missiles aren't really designed for killing fighters at long range - they are designed to kill large (relatively) slow and unmanoeverable planes like AWACS, ELINT, Tankers and slower Bombers at those distances and fighters at medium to short ranges (typically well under 40km) as these missiles burn their boosters rapidly (
ultimately, it will depend on who is defending and who is attacking...
Great comment. Excellent points. Long live the dog fight!
This is what most Americans can't understand. They still are voicing out "F35 will kill you without you knowing it because you will be detected first and it is stealth." Crazy marketing idea.
yeah, on a Blip-Plane..the sooner you shoot, the sooner the enemy knows you shot..the closer you get, the better your chances...ground, sea or air war
You can talk about all the scenarios, variables, and simulated dog fights in the world. But at the end of the day, the F-15 has 104 wins and 0 loses in real combat. Clearly the Americans are on to something with BVR combat. There’s a reason European countries, Russia and others are investing in developing stealth 5th gen fighters.
The F-15 is the jet fighter sibling of the Lamborghini Countach in terms of style. My favorite jet along with the F-16. They just never get old.
F-15 EX is actually the newest variant
@@mohamedhafees438 Not in service yet
it's just started testing....
@@mohamedhafees438 f22 is superior
F15 ex is the newest varient, SE is the best variant but not cost effective. May as well by an F35....
@@Daniel-jg8ff what will cost. Of F15 Fighter Fully Loaded?
On the aesthetics side, I’m very biased towards the SU-35: amazing lines, looks more organic, like a natural killing machine. But Americans had been notoriously better at taking care of their airplanes. You’ll never see an f-15 flying alone without AWACS, f-16’s and electronic warfare planes around him. Su-35 it’s more like a stand-alone warrior that has to pay attention to every detail in the battle field, while F-15 it’s like pack hunter. Both excels at their roles
Well yeah, but we are saying 1 to 1, now russian training is crap but when they were in syria the precision probability of hitting a target with a dumb bomb was 90% . But now it is not as good.
SU 35 will be more lethal if it becomes pack hunter and fly with AWACS.
The russians have awacs and equivalent planes.
So Su-35 has no brothers to help like AWACS, Su-30 and electronic warfare. Oh, poor brotherless Su-35.
@@googleplex1589yeah according to western media which are all fake news
There is no denying that the SU 35 has some of the most beautiful lines ever created when it comes to airplanes, but so does the F 15! Basically, it comes down to pilot skills, and abilities! Training plays a big factor, and if you can make your plane dance to your tune, you will most likely come out with a win, but if you’re incapable of flying your craft, nice knowing you
I always loved the sexy profile of the Sukois.,.. however it all boils down to efficacy of the respective jets BVR missiles. Noone be will need to merge. Merge is exciting but we have High Alpha control and the upgraded AIM 9X and off boresite helmet aiming. The missiles can go off boresite and can shoot backwards!
Both Aircraft are excellent but the Russian can’t be beaten on price along with weapons costs
That is why they will always be beaten where it counts. In the big beautiful sky.
t74 guard you must like following every comment l do on CZcams,don’t think either side can win a war against each other.
How Russia forgets who gave a hand when the Germans turned on Russia maybe if the Allies had stopped it’s attack on the front line and let you both fight it out it would be a different story being told now.
Seems neither has learnt a lesson as yet, if it starts l hope you love living underground for a few hundred years, we won’t be around so really who cares.
I just appreciate a fine Aircraft and what they can do like most Military Weapons
Price means ZERO
@@foobarmaximus3506 well that’s a joke cheap doesn’t mean they don’t function as good it really means the cost to build them is much cheaper same as most things produced in Russia wages are no where near the USA a fact so they can produce it at a much cheaper cost per unit.
The cost to build in the USA is far greater as it’s just it’s Military equipment that is made in the USA but most of your industries are in China helping it’s economy, hell the USA even allows them to steal any technology they want that includes Russia gee the USA loves saving China & Russia on development costs.
Then think on it very hard you are dealing with a Socialist & Communist Country’s that have the cheapest Labour Force going let’s not forget the USA leaving Billions of Military equipment including Abrams Tanks you name it all for the Chinese & Russian to reverse engineer find the weak spots also all the Radio Equipment that give them an edge on Friend or foe, BUT LET’S SEE THATS RIGHT THEY TOOK THE KEYS OUT
My God,those Sukhois are beautiful war machines
Agreed, too bad their made and flown by some of the evilest countries in the world.
@@trevorpollo By evil you mean goverment right? Cause all governments are evil,and not the people
@@Unhuman143 Those that fly Sukhois fly for their governments, do they not? If the government is evil, then by extension those that fly the planes are as well. If you do the bidding of evil, then you are evil as well.
@@trevorpollo But they aren't evil,they fly not because they love to kill others,those are jobs,only radicals and fanatics are the real evil ones who would die for the government,not the Air force or other evil government,here in Russia,the problem is that our government is very corrupt,but the people are not hoe they are portrait in the west,i live in Voronezh tho,but yeah,neither USA or China or whatever,soldier or not,they are not evil,only radicals and fanatics are the real evil ones
@@Unhuman143 Are they or are they not doing the bidding of their governments? When the government tells those pilots to do something, do they do it? Yes or no.
Aerodynamically speaking: The SU-35 is literally a giant lifting airfoil with extra lifting wings added in as well as a very small blended wing central fuselage and air intakes with engines. This allows Sukhoi and Mikoyan aircraft to generate massive amounts of lift in a turn while having very little drag in return which translates to tight and fast turns. Basically: A giant surfboard with a couple bulges.
The F-15 also uses a lifting body design, and that's why it's the only fighter jet to land with a completely missing wing. The F-35 also revolves around it's lifting body design and is why it's so much more maneuverable than even an F-16.
@@weasle2904 No, F-16 is by far more maneuverable than Su-27. F-16's quad flight computer allows its optimal flight characteristics. If you are talking about AoA, its different than maneuverability of aircraft.
@@LooxJJ Su-27? Did you mean to write "F-35" instead of Su-27? That was the original comment making the comparison to the F-16, not the Su-27?
@@gomigman5936read the guy's post I am responding to.
Do you know how to fly an airplane because I do! Do you know how to build an airplane from scratch?
All fighter jets have their advantages and their disadvantages, but yes it really depends on the avionics,manuverability and the skills and experience of the fighter pilots. Honestly I love both the F-15E Strike Eagle and the SU-35 Flanker because there both AWSOME fighters in my opinion. Much Respect and love from Malaysia 💂🇲🇾.
They tie on my coolest looking list
@@spartanx9293 👍
@Robert LaPointe I know bro and it's sad for the Royal Malaysian Air Force. Hopefully we'll get some spare parts soon for our SU-30MKMs but however maybe we are going to buy the Dassault Rafael, SU-35 or the MIG-35 hopefully.
@Robert LaPointe which varient do they use
@Robert LaPointe what about the f15 se or f35
No matter how good is a fighter jet, it is all depend on the pilot skills and experience to fight.
agreed
Exactly
Vijay Ghunowa ... it’s even more then pilot skills, a modern military just doesn’t just send in pilots to square off one on one to see who’s the better pilot or plane. There’s AWACS, radar and electronic suppression and Wild weasels attack planes in a strike package but even before that there would be cruise missile attacks to degrade the enemy’s air bases and missile defenses. So it really come down to which Air Force has enough assets left over to detect and direct their fighter planes against their enemy before they are detected!
F 4 shot down f 22😂😂😂
You guy's think they're gonna be dogfighting..., why do you think the F-35 is slow and doesn't manoeuvre? Cause you can't detect it and no amount of Chaff will get one of those missles of you.
I dont know which one is better but I know that I love them both ❤
@True Renegade I agree with that, Su ain't shit next to the Eagle, from Israel.
@Mike Veis Wrong. F-15 pilots will be cool and confident because the F-15 has already shot down over 100 Russian jets for no air-to-air losses in return, while the Russian pilots will be panicking because all that the entire Flanker family has ever shot down is... a couple of Migs #LOL
@@CaesarCassius these were not Russian pilots
@@CaesarCassius Some publicists judge the comparative combat capabilities of the F-15 and Su-27 based on the results of a visit to the United States at Langley airbase in August 1992 by pilots from the Lipetsk Air Force Combat Use Center and Air Force Flight Personnel Retraining and a return visit of American pilots to Lipetsk in September of the same year, and also to the Savaslake Airbase in 1996. “Joint maneuvers” of the F-15D and Su-27UB were organized (according to Russian pilots, the F-15 is inferior in maneuverability at subsonic speeds to the Su-27). It was repeatedly announced about the victory for the Su-27 with a dry score.😝
I wish we could have the blue angels fly in russia again
When the Flanker accomplishes the same combat record air to air and air to ground as the Eagle, I'll acknowledge it as a good aircraft.
F15 has that record vs the fighters that were so old and outdated that it basically doesn't matter , f15 have never entered combat with a fighter of its own class . F15 is highly overrated . When it comes against a flanker its true potential will be shown .
Great comparison video. I have always liked comparisons between different technologies.
It's a close call. Hope we never have to find out. The SU35 is more than able to end the F-15s winning streak. The way it flies gives me goosebumps!
The F-15 Strike Eagle has been optimized for ground support missions. It has a second crewman who helps find, identify, and attack ground targets. Air to air combat is not it's Forte, but it is still an F-15, I would never completely count it out!
No... there are different versions of the F-15 was designed specifically for air to air, especially the F-15C... you'd have to be insane to think otherwise. The F-15E is a more medium range fighter-bomber, and used for air-to-ground.
But the F-15 was designed with the mantra "not a pound for air-to-ground" for a reason. They didn't want a single bit of its design to even consider air-to-ground whatsoever.
Their weapon systems officers are professional family and children killers
😂😂😂El f35 es una cafetera volante a cada rato se estan cayendo por fallas mecanicas el su35 por ser un caza 4 ++ le da por cu... a todos los cazas de combates en todo el planeta sus cualidades tecnicas en general superan en todos los aspectos a todas estas chatarras prropagandisticas no jod...😂😂😂😂😅
You know I think People like this should have more subscribers and support. They put a lot of effort in Learning about these aircraft and making videos about them.
Some maybe but not so much this one. Saying the SU35 can sustain supersonic speed without using afterburners is completely false. That would mean it has engines capable of supercruise which the Russians and Chinese can not develope successfully yet. Where as the prototype of the F-22 was capable of doing in it's first flight way back in 1991. Almost 30 years ago and the Russians and Chinese still can't do it. hhahahahaha makes you think, Wow doesn't it? Also trying to compare a strike aircraft that is 25 years older to a air superiority fighter in a air superiority role is not a very good comparison to try. They are not the same type of fighter. If you are going to do that, they you should also compare the two aircrafts strike capabilities. Since the F-15E is a dual role fighter then compare both of it's roles with the SU35. Which again the F-15E is 25 years older. If you think about it, wouldn't that be the same as comparing the F-15A with the Mig 15? They are close to being 25 years apart. Of course there would be no comparison between those two. The F-15A would completely destroy the Mig 15 every time. So based on just a couple things I mentioned, there doesn't seem to be a lot of effort in learning about these two aircraft. Or at least a lot of effort learning the correct things about them. Could this by why they don't have as many subscribers as you think they should. Cause most people see this?
@@t74guard78 it's about the real su 35,which will come
@@joshimuddin5454 Sorry not really sure what you are talking about. It's been a while since my comment. What about the real SU 35 and what is coming?
They say they can see a low observable aircraft, but they have never gone against an F-22 or F-35. Would be interesting to know.
The SU 35
It’s about pilots. But… The SU-35 looks WAY cooler than the F-15. So there’s that. 🤣
I disagree
I agree
5:02: f-15E left the chat..
the two aircraft are pretty much evenly matched, and it would be really up to the skills of the pilots to prevail. nice video.
Two of the best looking jets ever designed
The F-15 has been so good that it is still compared with planes 20 years "younger" :-)
Actually not, both planes were introduced at similiar times.. by western standards the Su35 would actually be called Su27m / Flanker E.. the difference is only the name and different internal parts/modifications like the F15E
what F-15 has new AESA radar... SU-35 has old PESA radar... like wtf wth... it wont even be a fight... F-15 will butcher SU-35 like fish in a barrel.
also just found out Russia doesnt even have an AESA fighter-jet. That is a Paper Tiger.
@@eastsouth9548
Talking is cheap - remember F-15 cannot even perform basic things in the air to match a mighty SU-35.
FYI a SU-35 manned by Russian Pilot will always make F-15 a dead meat in a matter of micro seconds, need I say more to reveal that even SU-27 is far more better jet fighter plane than F-15, ask opinion of any unbiased American fighter Pilot about the capabilities of SU-27 they will tell you what I have just said, consequently I suggest to you that before commenting on military flying machine do some proper research.
@@amoslukyaa5792 You got no idea about anything do you? Bfm is old school , forget it , only BVR with new radars and the F-15 is the best BVR fighter ever , the su-35 won't stand a chance...
@@eastsouth9548why is that Indian su30 always trashed us planes?
If the USAF continued with the F-15CX along with the -EX, the single-seat one would be more comparable to the Su-35; the F-15EX, as a multirole, is more comparable to the Su-30
imma watch all there comparison videos , soo interesting n well informed, great detail, i like learning about the united states arsenal. we appreciate your videos thank you
Can anyone tell me what software is used in this video to point at specific areas of the plane?
EG: 8:13
Superior is su 35
Yeah that's happening in dreams...
It all comes down to the pilot skills
The fact that the new F-15EX can carry 12 or more Missiles and shoot from maybe over 200 miles away with the right speed and altitude makes me think the new F-15 would win. But I don’t know if the F-15E could beat the Su-35
With equal pilots and with pure numbers, the Flanker is better off
With realistic pilots, the Eagle is better off
If both nations traded and kept the price tag the same, Flanker is better
If we compare JETS, then I think that Su-35 is better, because it has longer range missiles and it much more maneuverable then F-15E.
Of course everything depends on pilot skills, but this is a different story.
Much more maneuverable in your dreams... SU-35 js slightly more maneuverable with absolutely 0 advantage in combat. Not to mention he is not comparing it to F-15X which is the newest version and the pentagon just purchased several of them
@@ulikemyname6744
It doesn't vary much, and yes SU-35 is much more maneuverable, it's deadly in a dog fight and no fighter can match it.
amazoner0cks the su 35 is only more maneuverable at an airshow without a combat load and very little Fuel . Put some missiles on it and some gas in it then it does not do those fancy tricks you see at airshows
@@commissaryarrick9670
As if you tried it lol, stop saying non-sense.
SU-35 can destroy any fighter in a dog fight, if Russia managed to improve in avionics and stealth category it can surpass any American fighter easily.
@@amazoner0cks Nah no evidence no support that
In fact, the F-15E willmore appropriately compared, matching the Su-30.
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Or a 2 seat SU-35 but that’s a trainer, not a strike fighter.
F-15 looks similar to F-35 but SU-35 looks like a viper.
One has never lost a dogfight and one has never won a dogfight.
Which one is which
Not saying the F15 isn't a awesome plane but do you know most of the jets that the F15 has shot down are the old Mig 21's and I think Mig 25 Foxbat and a couple other planes s that are no where near advancement and capabilities of a su35 flanker. SU35 is a totally different animal , I think the only thing that could beat this in a dog fight is the F22 .
Su-35 is the best fighter ever!
@@uriahbleue1947....in this case, it would come down to the pilots. F-15 crews are combat tested. I would think for them, the combat experience would be more of an advantage over any of the technology either aircraft possesses. You just don't know how you would react in a combat situation until you're in one. American pilots have proved their combat skills time and time again.
@@joerhodes213 They said that in Vietnam, they found out that they didn't know what they were talking about, the Vietnamese had better pilots. We Americans believe our own lies and propaganda. Other countries pilots and weapons are just as good or better than ours.
I love this channel because it actually makes you like both fighters being compared. Unlike other channels who are purely biased and makes you hate the other one.
Exactly dude
Especially infographic channel. Totally bias af 😂. Ppl whon to see the comparison
I'd say its more to do with how sophisticated the weapon systems on board each of the fighters that will most likely produce the winner...
f15e is not an air superiority variant it's optimize for strike missions. the f15c would better comparison. f15ex is a mule a missile platform.
OK, so how does the F 15 C compares to the Su 35 in that case ?
Ehhh the F-15A would be better because SU-35 and F-15A are both single seats. Anyways, the F-15A has better thrust to mass ratio because it’s smaller than the SU-35 but the SU-35 has better turn rates because of better aerodynamic properties.
f 15 is easier detected by RADAR
And vice versa
No easier than the SU35. The F-15EX will be a bit harder to detect than these two.
so as su 35
Both aircrafts can be detected by radar if they wont fly low
For better or worse.
That Su-35 is a gorgeous airplane.
The Super Flanker is a Banging 10 piece.
It actually looks like a Cobra!
• that down ward pointing nose,
• high “neck” (area behind the cockpit, but forward of the wings).
• forward leading edge of the wings appears like that angry Cobra opening its hood!
I remember "Turkey Feathers" on a couple of the F-15s at Holloman AFB in the early 80's, They were just removing the last of them when I got there in '82. They looked cool, but yes, they did fall of.
Subbed and like fabulous videos thank you
Flanker everyday all day bro.
Rafale is better of USA and Russian aircraft.
F-15 is superior
@@chevyjohnson7457 it depend on what
A straight truth, don't give up on dog fighting! During Vietnam war, they depended on missiles, and the kill ratio dropped, 1 to 2, as oppose to the 1 to 15 ratio of the Korean war. I hope they are still running "Red Flag" at Nellis, to keep the dog fighting edge. I think they changed the name but, the same idea.
The outcome of the engagement would come down to the pilot I would imagine
The only way to know for sure is in a friendly match between this two fighters.
The Su 35 is newer and more up to date than the f15E, it would be a better comparison between the F15EX and the Su 35
The f-15E is for air to ground so better to compare it to the su-34
Newer... but more modern? Russia lags behind the west in avionics, radar and engine technology. The F-15 is a proven commodity, as are the weapons it carries. Like most Russian weapons... it looks good on paper, but that paper was written by Russia.
@@jeebuzcrust and? Never underestimate your enemy, just look at what happened to the US in Vietnam and Afghanistan because of that, anyway the f-15 is indeed battle proven, but the su-35 never got a chance to prove it self because russia didnt go in a war that needed the su-35 ,plus didnt the su-35 detect f-22 over syria and intercept it before? Plus russia doesnt lack behind in avionics, while they are substantialy older their avionics are still on par with the west,even rivalling it, they just dont have the 682 billion dollars the US spends on its military every year like they actually have about 10% of that yet they still rival the US in many aspects, not the navy i have to admit that their naval equipment kinda sucks except for the 2 kirov battle cruisers
@@crankthetank3581 Name a Russian system that even remotely compares to what the F35 brought to the table. It's basically filling the gap between manned and unmanned fighter jets. Air launched drone swarms, F35s leading unmanned wingmen, electronic countermeasures, missiles that are designed to counter A2A missiles... they have good quality stuff developed with 4th gen capabilities while the west is moving toward the future.
@@crankthetank3581 The Russian Navy has some good coastal defense boats, with a lot of capability packed in them. Terrible for comfort but they pack a punch. They build some good submarines as well.
You’re comparing a Mudhen with an air superiority fighter. The F-15C or 2040C or the F-22 are more fitting comparisons, not a bomber with air to air capability.
How do you compare anything with the F-22? Answer, you can't. So not a good choice. See how the Eurofighter Typhoon stacks up against the SU35. That would be a bit more comparable I think? What do you say?
This guy is correct. F-15E is a tactical bomber, F-15C is the correct comparison for the Su-35. F-15E comparison would be the Su-34. There are too many fueltanks and pods hanging off the F-15E to compare here, and the airframe is beefed up to carry massive bombs like the GBU-28 and B61. Source: Myself, former member of 493rd, F-15C.
Well the F-22 is a super weapon. Not many would disagree about that. I never said it was untouchable. Every aircraft can be shot down. Some are just much, much, much harder to shot down than others. I highly doubt the F-22 lost multiple times in any excercises. I am sure they have lost a few which of course will happen. But I am just as sure that in every excercise, including the few when one was lost, that the F-22 inflicted much, much more damage on them. So there is little point in bringing up that they have been defeated because like I said, that is bound to happen once in a while. Also how do we know that those few defeats weren't against newer F-22 pilots flying in these excercises for the first time. Who knows what happened. With many planes zooming around the sky together, sooner or later one is bound to find himself on the tail of an F-22.
Talking about the SU supermaneuverability, you are aware that what it does in air shows is not what combat is like. All those fancy tricks you see in air shows are all done at low speeds. Combat happens at much higer speeds. Attempting to do any of those things at high speed would most likely end up with a wingless aircraft. Or at least a blacked out pilot. Either way you have a russian aircraft going down. Besides I have seen the F-22 do the same things I have seen the SU35 do without 360 thrust vectoring. That shows what an amazing aircraft the F-22 really is.
But since these two aircraft are combat aircraft, and in combat, with a well trained pilot flying it there is a much, much better chance of the SU35 pilot dying. At combat speed, the Russian aircraft lose their super maneuverability advantage. Also let's not forget that lets say ok the fight slows down. In order for these fancy flying tricks to work, the US pilot has to be stupid enough to be right on the Russian tail. It would be very careless for a US pilot to but himself in that kind of situation. Being the best trained pilots in the world, I am sure they know to keep their distance so that when a Russian pilot tries one of his little fancy air show tricks. All he has done was make himself a very slow or could even say a sitting duck of a target..
So your saying the F-16 can out dogfight the F-22, F-35 and F-18? I mean cause you said the F-16 is the only aircraft that could stand a chance against Russian fighters. Well showing again your lack of knowledge here. First of all in the hands of equal pilots, the F-22 would destroy the F-16 and has so many times over an over again in excercises. Now that F-35 pilots have learned to fly their aircraft, they have been unbeatable. An F-18 is a extreme dogfighter and can take out the F-16. But in your opinion, the F-16 is the only american fighter that has a chance to win against russian fighters. hahahhahaha hear that noise. It is the alarm clock going off and time for you to wake up and join the rest of us in the reality of this world. Not the fantasy world in which you obviously spend much time in. Your forgetting the most important aspect to any fight between aircraft. Yes the pilot. You see American pilots are the very best trained pilots in the world. They not only have the most realistic kind of training available anywhere in the world. But they also get to train over and over and over and over again. They get to see why they may have lost a fight to someone and learn how to not let what happened, happen again. They learn and go over what they should have done and do it over and over and over again. No other pilots spend as much time actually flying and fighting and learning as american pilots do. They are also trained to fight every aircraft out there. They learn to win against it even if it is more maneuverable. Like back in Vietnam. The Mig 21 was much more maneuveralbe than the F-4. At the beginning of the conflict, american pilots were not taught how to fight the enemy. They only knew how to use their missiles at large, slow moving bombers. So in the beginning, the US air force and navy fighters could only get a 3 to 1 kill ratio. Once the Navy opened Top Gun and taught their pilots how to dogfight, even against more maneuverable aircraft, the graduates of that school started kicking the North Vietnamese asses getting the kill ratio up to 12 to 1. 'Anyway more maneuverable aircraft can be beaten and beaten regularly when a pilot has fought this same time of enemy already over and over and over again in training. Every american fighter is capable of defeating any russian fighter because of the pilot training. In the F-22 and F-35 cases, the combination of the best trained pilots flying the best available aircraft in the world, it is just about as close to being unbeatable as it gets,.
As far as the F-22 being tracked goes, another thing I highly doubt. Maybe at very close range but highly unlikely at distance. Your sources seem to be more like wishful thinkers and daydreamers. Regardless of any of this the fact is the F-22 can be touched, but when touching back, many more of them feel it than the F-22 does. Oh and let's not forget that the F-22 is 30 years old. If other countries want to think their new to 10 year old fighters are just as good as a 30 year old aircraft, that is fine cause what is in the hangers at Area 51 and many other unheard of places, make the F-22 look like a biplane from WW1.
@Confederate Nationalist My apologies but I am confused. My comment above was a reply to Gary's comment. I agree with what you said in your comment below mine. Maybe I am missing a comment or two. Did I reply to your comment above, just below mine? Again I agree with what you said and very well done also. Sometimes spending to much time here and commenting and replying many times, one or two may get forgotten or lost. Either way I wasn't confused with what you said because you are correct.
@Confederate Nationalist I think the f-35 will surprise you. It can't be detected or locked on to such a degree that it could be under the enemies wing without them even knowing it. By then it is too late as one of its missles blows them out of the sky. That's it's purpose and the 35 does it very well like no other. It also is one of 2 aircraft that can go where it wants with impunity. We know the other. As a ground strikes aircraft the 22 is no match for the 35. And is no match in air to air against superior stealth and sensors of the 35. In other words the 35 even kills F-22's.
I think the skills of the two tighter jet really matters 😊
One thing that would make one or the other would be how many hours the crew have had in the air as this would be very important in combat
They're all great planes, however, that all depends on the pilot's number of training hours of who has the longer training hours between Russia and America.
Based on comparison here, i'd have to say the Su35 seems to have most of the advantages. The difference has to be Pilot/Training and or, some little surprises the F15s have, that would warrant the confidence of flying them in hostile environments. It amazes me that the 2 planes have faced off, i'm sure with the Israelis and the Syrians, yet no engagements have been reported. The Israeli success with the F15 is amazing, and a big part of its perfect undefeated score. With all these documented advantages, i don't understand why the Su35 hasn't gotten its "feet wet" in combat. Both airplanes are beautiful and kudos to the Russian and American engineers who designed such powerful and beautiful machines. As an American, lets say this, I wouldn't mind having Su35's on our side too!
104 F-15 Confirmed kills with 0 losses is insane
Against outdated opponents... If you put him VS Typhoon, Rafale or Gripen, we will see his true potential.
To me it’s impressive an older model plane built mostly for air strikes can even compete with a top flight air superiority fighter to begin with
daaamn that was epic damn 4:59
You should watch some airshow videos. The SU-27 is also pretty amazing.
If you take into consideration military doctrine, the Su-35 is a superior aircraft. If ought to pit these aircraft in a 1vs1 Situation, BVR or WVR, it doesn't matter. On paper the Su-35 has a higher chance of taking down the enemy aircraft.
Just so u know only the F15 has more kills than any other jet fighters today...hundred kills and no F15 been shot down in combat
Of course only a Russian would say that. If that's what they teach in Russian schools, no wonder Russia loses at wars when Russia has to fight by itself. Can't believe Russia lost to Japan. Allowing Bolsheviks to take over. Please respond because this is fun!!!
Lol, who said i am Russian?
@@yurisv7315
Yuri isn't Russian? Either way, let me know the last war that Russia won by itself. Then we can talk about what plane is better. Not to mention that the Russians Navy is nothing more than rusting hulls.
@ Well mate, nicknames ain't no Real names or some kind of indication for one's origins, also, the Lend Lease was Valuable for the USSR in the race to defeat Nazi Germany, but it wasn't detrimental.
This is comparing a platform introduced in 1976, the F15 and a platform introduced in 2014, the SU35. Granted the F15 has been retrofitted but it’s still a 1976 platform.
is the F-15 EX the same as strike eagle? I don't believe so. It's been out for a bit right?the strike eagle is not the latest variant of the F-15.
For fighters the old adage is still true... Long range, light weight and maneuverability are most important. Being great at speed, stealth and having the best "toys" make a good plane better but the starting platform is what makes a plane come out on top over an adversary.
The flanker is better in my opinion. What's more important however is the skill of the pilot.
Thanks , this is a pretty good boil-down. It raises another discussion about respective roles : for example , Su 35s as attack frames supported by Su 57s ; F-15EXs as attack frames supported by F-22s ; J-11s and J-15s supported by J-20s .. etc. .. or ..?
F-15EX's frame supported by F-22? Nope, F-22 has no relation to F-15 when it comes to its fuselage. F-15's design and F-22's design are radically different from each other.
Very close call. Both are killing machines but the Flanker is much less expensive. The
Russians know how to pinch their rubles.
i think the cost is not the primary consideration, everything made in the USA are expensive, consider this, if the Flanker is going to produce in the US, i think its more expensive or equal at least
Not at all, they have similar price tag, but in any case the F-15 pilots will be cool and confident because the F-15 has already shot down over 100 Russian jets for no air-to-air losses in return, while the Russian pilots will be panicking because all that the entire Flanker family has ever shot down is... a couple of Migs #LOL
@@CaesarCassius Look m8 ....the f 15s have shot incompetent fighter jets which are outdated ....the flanker is a good competition ...plus after all its more on the pilot than the plane #knowbeforespeaking
@@calmmind1649 he is spitting facts though. The F15 Pilots DID get experience, while the russians didn't. That is why on the pilot's side, it'd heavily be on the F-15's adventages. #knowbeforespeaking
SY-35 KILLER . УБИЙЦА ВСЕХ САМОЛЁТОВ.
I really like the way you presented the information in a realistic fashion. If you read about the subject in all western miltiary sites, and magazines you always end up taking it with a lot of grains of salt. Not here, I subscribed and I wish those 2 fighters never meet in battle ever.
Odyssey , why in Sinai? Why not over Israel. I dont wish either.
In a high speed engagement the Su-35 would not be able to leverage their thrust vector acrobatics. It's definitely a badass fighter built for the dogfight. The F15 has superior electronics, missile tech and a higher top speed and ceiling to fight from. F15 wins except for low speed dog fight. Assuming equal pilots of course.
There is no such thing as equal pilots. Even the same pilot can have a better or a not-so-good day.
Also you have forgotten a important detail: the P&W F100 is equipped in the F-15C/D air superiority variant. The F-15E/EX both uses the General Electric F110-GE-129 afterburning turbojets with higher gross thrust, although the P&W F100 has slightly better performance at greater altitudes. Respecting to weaponry, we have to see the newer US BVRAAM still under development.
Also didn't mention the Saturn turbofan engines on the su35
All F15s are or will be upgraded to the F-110 engine.
Im still finding it difficult to determine which of the 2 finds the spot at no 1 and which as no 2 as the most awesome looking kick ass plane. Both beautiful and deadly and will remain as such for a long time.
Hmmm... F-15 vs SU-27?
Very similar to: M16 vs AK47
All about tradeoffs.
Or in this case... F-15E vs SU-35 is closer to: M4 vs AK74
M16A3 Vs AK-74M
Except in this case the M16 is the lighter more maneuverable one while the AK is the heavier one. But it doesn’t matter since a human can point their arms and their guns in any direction they want and a lot faster than fighter aircraft.
lets just see in the real dogfight with 2 experienced pilot
Sorry you can't dogfights don't happen
@@spartanx9293 the only way to findout
@@spartanx9293 why not?
@@pascojm6816 because most aerial combat happens beyond visual range(something the f15 is very good at) it was rare even during the Vietnam war
@@spartanx9293 you indian bro
Lol I know the F-15e is an updated model of the original f15, but considering the jet was developed in 1969 is just SHOCKING!!!!!!
The SU-35 definitely has an edge, so pilot skills being equal it likely to be the one going home at the end of the day.
Top speed of F-15E is1,650 mph (2,656 km/h) not 1,875. So it is slower than su-35
Good
comparison, respects from Russia
I wonder why the narrator is not mentioning one very important fact during the comaprison? That is that F-15 in order to cover mentioned in this video distance or operate within mentioned combat range has to take 3 additional fuel tanks, - and that is 3 taken hard points under his wings. That means that it can bring (11-3) only 8 missiles to the combat versus 12 on SU-35. Because SU never uses external fuel tanks. That's a huge advantage for SU-35.
Both aircraft are spectacular
Dog fight: Su27 win index around 100 to 93 . Total service index: F15E lead big winning result around 100 to 83 or below 78.
Win index? WTF is that? Some kind of simulations or something? Which of course doesn't mean shit. Only actual combat means anything. The F-15E is a dual role fighter not an air superiority fighter. Compare it with a similar Russian aircraft if they have one that is similar. hahhahaahhaah win index hahahhahaah now that is funny and very, very naive.
@@t74guard78 You're the naive one. the SU-27 is a bad ass aircraft, take some tome to watch it fly. There are NO AMERICAN AIRCRAFT that can fly like that, and if you say they can you are a damn idiot and I challenge you to prove it. I agree the F-15 has a great record but we mostly attack countries that can't defend themselves so that shit is worthless.
@Odyssey The F-35 has a lot of problems, it can't even fly supersonic because it causes damage to the frame and stealth coating, it can't use it's active radar systems without revealing it's position and to top it off it can't even fire it's cannon without causing frame damage. On the other hand the SU-35 was created from the extremely successful SU-27 and has been able to sneak in close enough to give the F-35 pilots a good scare a few times.
@Odyssey Yeah. SU-35 off course by far. My bad I got my videos mixed up.
@@ichan83a Hahaha funneh what aboutthe iraq war the six day war and those were back in the 90s and it still kicked the su35s grandpapi Mig 29 fulcrums ass
Both are equal when they are far enough...
But when they are close to each other no one can beat su 35 in dogfight... And in maneuver
They'll never get close to each other. It's all BVR.
Saurabh Kumar. Maneuver wise definitely you're referring to those thrust vectors pods on SU35. They basically are useless at close up dogfights. Dogfight is reminiscent of WW1 & WW2 biplanes e.g. Those thrust vectors are best to showcase only at air shows with speeds executed well below 115 knots could be lower. Should present Jet age dogfight be propped up 1 on 1 against these two...? they'll exceed
speeds up to 220+ knots, could be more but unfortunately those thrust vectors essentially will be rendered absolutely useless btw.
Oh the SU35 can be beat in a dogfight by most US pilots. How, well they are the best trained pilots in the world and are taught how to defeat any aircraft no matter how well it maneuvers. Perfect example was during Vietnam. The Mig 21 was much more maneuverable than the F-4 and yet the F-4, by the end of the conflict, had a 12 to 1 kill ratio over the Mig. So as you can see with historical proof, aircraft with better maneuverability can be defeated by a well prepared and trained pilot. There is no doubt that even F-15, 16 and 18 pilots know how to defeat the SU35 in combat. I will agree that the Russian aircraft are the best air show demostraters on the planet. The problem is that combat and air shows are completely different enviroments. What looks amazing in air shows is nothing more than target practice in combat. Anything moving that slow, as Russian aircraft are while doing all that fancy stuff, in combat has no way of defeating cannon fire or missiles fired at it. He comes a missile moving at mach 2.5 and greater and your twisting and turning in a small circle at 150 to 200 hundred knots. You look great for people watching from the ground at an air show and you also look like a dream target for an incoming missile. Moving very slow and in generally the same area. Your dead fancy flying Russian aircraft and as you explode into a million little pieces, an American fighter comes zooming by at almost the speed of sound doing a victory roll. If a Russian aircraft tries any of those fancy maneuvers at higher speeds, it will most likely tear the wings off the aircraft or black out the pilot. Either way, the aircraft doesn't survive. So go ahead and keep thinking what your are thinking. It is very naive and only shows what very little you really do know about this topic.
@eddie money Not questionable at all. Got them from several different sources and question all you want, they are accurate. The Korean war US F-86 shot down 792 Mig 15 while losing only 78. At no time was any pilots in the Korean war sustaining an edge over American pilots. The American pilots knew when Russian pilots were flying the Migs only because they said they weren't as easy to shot down as North Korean pilots were. But none the less still shot them down at an alarming rate. There was no Russian pilot edge. Hell why do you think practically all the top scoring German aces of WWII flew in the east against the Russians. They were so much easier to shoot down than American and British pilots. Those are facts and not an opinion. All of it. Two of those German aces had over 300 kills each. That is a lot of burning Russian planes and pilots from just 2 German pilots.
There are as in any Air Force, some really good Russian pilots. I am sure their very best could fly against any other countries very best. But when you take the average pilot skills in an Air Forces, the majority of them, the American average is so much higher than everyone elses. With all the years of actual combat experience to be able to throw in the training. With all the realistic training each pilot has. Fighting against so many different types of aircraft. Then being able to do all this over and over and over and over and over again. No other country does this for their pilots. Even if they can provide just as realistic king of training, which I highly doubt, they don't train nearly as much and as often. Interviews with american pilots after their first combat mission, they all have a common theme to what they say. "it was just like training. I have already done what I just did many times. This time it was for real though and that was a little scary.' I have seen this many, many times and just shows that an american pilot already has several missions under his belt even before he flies in his first actual combat mission.
Which one is better? Unfortunately we may likely find out soon enough.
Can we redo this with the new f-15 eagle 2
The biggest factor in a dogfight is, how skillfull the pilot is. If you have two pilots on the exactl same level, for sure the flanker will outperform the eagle. It is proven in the past, even some propeller driven aircraft had shot down jets just because some pilots have the sensitivity to "feel exactly" their plane capabilities.
I just love the look of the F15!!!
Da F15 is my Fav airplane design!
Das ugliest
Me too
You'll never hear a flanker pilot say "I picked up the Raptor at 50 miles". That fight was over 150 miles ago. Unless your playing games near Alaska of course.
One thing about most American jets. Is they have enough combat missions under their belt..... to prove their worth. Not just a bunch of showboating at an airshow
The F-15E is a impressive aircraft but the Sukhoi flankers are superior in terms of maneuverability and maintenance cost. I say this as a former F-15 weapons technician.
Yea I mean the su 35 is significantly newer. By like 30 years. I’ll bet the f15 could beat a su 27 tho.
Really? I thought su35 is more expensive to maintain
SU-35 HAS 360 DEGREE THRUST VECTORING,ALLOWING TO REDIRECT THRUST IN ANY DIRECTION, 14 HARDPOINTS.
1. This forces them to give up energy and makes them an easy target for the F15's wing-man.
2. There are plenty of tactics available to counter highly maneuverable aircraft. It's not the first time the Air Force has had to fight more maneuverable frames. The Navy had to learn the hard way fighting those nasty Zeroes. In reality no pilot will ever fight 1 on 1. I think American pilots will maintain authority over the skies except for when they are outnumbered. Plus. Odds are on some of those missions that F22 support is just a radio call away or are already part of the flight group.
a. No denying Russians make some amazing equipment though. Its a beautiful bird that is quite elegant and sleek.
@@wolfgangjr74 Thanks for your honesty, I am retired vetren grew up with blue angels A4S- F4S USS FORRESTAL HAD F-14S I MYSELF PRIVATE PILOT LESSONS BUT NEVERED SOLOED, THOSE F-22S ARE AWLSOME, BUT GETTING OLD ANOTHER ONE CRASHED.
@@debbies3763 Nice. Served a couple of stints in the Navy as an I level AT on and off carriers. Sure miss watching them F14s in the hangar bay and in the skies. Huge beasts for sure. Thank your service.
Both planes are awesome and superb (Andy from Malaysia)
One is a ground attack jet, one is a fighter intercepter.
SU-35 is a more advanced fighter and if the pilot skills are the same, it's more likely that the flanker would win.
I'd agree with that. Pilot skill being equal i'd also give the win to the sukhoi. The only chance (and it's not much of a chance) the F-15 would have is to keep the sukhoi at arm's length. Even so the Su-35 was designed to excel at all ranges. But if the Sukhoi manages to close in and force a close range dogfight then the F-15 is pretty well f*cked.
@@killman369547 The f15 engages at mid range which means the f15 will win in mid range.The su35 will win in close range.
@@generalmcarthur8401 It all depends on ECM technology, you cannot fire a effective missile if you cannot get a target locked.
Uhh not really
@@callanboulanger8240 please elaborate
A couple of Swiss F-18s snuck in there ;)
Superior maneuverability and fastest top speed is hardly as important today, I'd rather have the capability of the first view
Look at the biasness of the narrator....in every category tells us the superiority of the Flanker E, then says “however,.....” and gives a condition (which has already been told that Flanker E has superiority in)