Could you make a Hamburger in Ancient Rome? DOCUMENTARY

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  • Would it be possible to make a hamburger in ancient Rome? We seek find out using only ingredients from the time (with help from Max Miller of Tasting History) Check out Wondrium and start your free trial today! wondrium.com/Invicta
    This history documentary seeks to recreate the 4 main components of a Hamburger: The Buns, the Patty, the Toppings and the Condiments.
    We begin with the buns be exploring the sorts of breads which were used by the Romans. We sift through many kinds in search of one which matches our criteria of a hamburger bun with a light bread and sesame seeds. Next we turn to the making of a beef patty by looking at the meat industry of the period. We then explore the availability of toppings like onions, lettuce, cucumbers, bacon, cheese and more. Finally we conclude by seeing what kinds of condiments one might find in ancient Rome. Along the way we are joined by Max Miller from tasting history who provides awesome insight on the cooking process. Ultimately I think we come away with a quite tasty and authentic ancient hamburger recipe that could fit right in with ancient Rome.
    Stay tuned for more How They Did It episodes on Roman cooking and daily life in the past. Be sure to also check out our friend Max Miller: / tastinghistory
    Credits:
    Research: Chris Das Neves
    Script: Chris Das Neves
    Narration: Invicta
    Artwork: Beverly Johnson
    Editing: Penta Limited
    Music: Dreamnote
    Bibliography and Suggested Works
    The Loaded Table by Emily Gowers
    Eating and Drinking in Roman Britain by H. E. M. Cool
    A Companion to Food in the Ancient World eds. John Wilkins and Robin Nadeau
    The World of Pompeii eds. John Dobbins and Pedar Foss
    Daily Life in the Roman City by Gregory Aldrete
    Shopping in Ancient Rome: The Retail Trade in the Late Republic by Claire Holleran
    City: A Guidebook for the Urban Age by PD Smith.
    #Rome
    #Documentary
    #TastingHistory

Komentáře • 1,9K

  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  Před 2 lety +1080

    Big thanks to Max from Tasting History for joining us once again! Check out our last video together on Roman Fast Food restaurants: czcams.com/video/v5Qz00eUF5Q/video.html

    • @dukesilver702
      @dukesilver702 Před 2 lety +9

      "Could you make a Hamburger in Ancient Rome?" is the fundamental question that scholars have always been afraid to ask.

    • @MrChristopherMolloy
      @MrChristopherMolloy Před 2 lety +3

      Eggs and chopped-meat equal a meatloaf, not a burger.

    • @stickthesecond5085
      @stickthesecond5085 Před 2 lety

      HAMBURGIR

    • @MajorJakas
      @MajorJakas Před 2 lety +1

      No thanks at all to "How to Make Everything" for making the original video this morning?

    • @TannerSwizel
      @TannerSwizel Před 2 lety +11

      @@MajorJakas An odd coincidence, sure, but Invicta made this video with custom graphics, a sponsor to sign off on it, and it had a collaboration. You can't just smack together a video like this in 8 hours. Also, Invicta has been on the topic of Roman fast food ever since a fast food stand in Pompeii was unearthed, this is simply a follow up from that.

  • @knightshousegames
    @knightshousegames Před 2 lety +2937

    "I have tried the most fascinating meal today. It is said to be a recipe for ground beef and cheese invented by a barbarian from north of Hadrian's Wall who goes by the name of Macdonald...."

    • @Alizudo
      @Alizudo Před 2 lety +295

      It always makes me laugh when I remember that McDonald is a Scottish name. It seems so out of place!

    • @rahowherox1177
      @rahowherox1177 Před 2 lety +47

      @@Alizudo well the don part is latin.

    • @andryuu_2000
      @andryuu_2000 Před 2 lety +49

      @@rahowherox1177 yeah Donaldo is a medieval Italian name

    • @BrewPackBuck12
      @BrewPackBuck12 Před 2 lety +15

      Ronald Mcdonald

    • @thabomuso6254
      @thabomuso6254 Před 2 lety +20

      McDonalds didn't invent the hamburger though. He was great of industrializing food preparation and serving. On the other hand I find McDonald hamburgers untasty. I buy food there when I am in great hurry.

  • @quetzadrake
    @quetzadrake Před 2 lety +3000

    "A true Roman hamburger"
    Well first you're going to need some true Roman bread for true Romans.

    • @Th3Nigma
      @Th3Nigma Před 2 lety +91

      Made in a mass kiln from the Roman government dole.

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory Před 2 lety +280

      From the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers perhaps?

    • @malleableconcrete
      @malleableconcrete Před 2 lety +92

      I think you mean trve Roman bread for trve Romans

    • @pipebomber04
      @pipebomber04 Před 2 lety +50

      Only the best from the miller guild

    • @einsjam
      @einsjam Před 2 lety +6

      I see what you did there 😊😂😊😂😊😊

  • @carlramirez6339
    @carlramirez6339 Před 2 lety +291

    IMO, it wouldn't be too hard to make a Fillet-o-Fish in Ancient Rome either. Ancient Rome already had bread, fish, frying techniques, cheese and tzatziki.

    • @boujeecaveman3103
      @boujeecaveman3103 Před 2 lety +33

      Ancient McDonald’s Confirmed

    • @tbishop4961
      @tbishop4961 Před 2 lety +43

      Tzatziki absolutely is not tartar sauce. Nobody in their right mind eats tartar sauce by spoonful. I can attest to doing so with tzatziki

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus Před 2 lety +8

      @@tbishop4961 ... I am glad I am not alone in this.

    • @KentuckyFriedChildren
      @KentuckyFriedChildren Před 2 lety +8

      @@tbishop4961 Tzatziki gang

    • @SnozBerryQueen
      @SnozBerryQueen Před 2 lety +9

      @@KentuckyFriedChildren gang gang. That shits good on EVERYTHING!

  • @parallelcircuit
    @parallelcircuit Před 2 lety +322

    Since so much of what we now see as "Italian" food has New World ingredients, I think it would be interesting to take a look at how close you could get to a few staples like Spaghetti and Meatballs or Lasagna on the streets of the Mayan Empire.

    • @20firebird
      @20firebird Před 2 lety +32

      see, that makes ME wonder how well you could make them in italy before europeans found the new world...

    • @ArturoLopez-ly2pn
      @ArturoLopez-ly2pn Před 2 lety +21

      Ok now you got me wondering if you can make pasta with corn flour
      Edit: YOU CAN

    • @octaviogutierrez9158
      @octaviogutierrez9158 Před 2 lety +20

      Mayans, Aztecs and Incas created and ate first a lot of global modern meals like Tomatoes, Corn, turkey meat, Potatoes, beans, Chili peppers, Pumpkins ,Chocolate, Tacos, Popcorn, guacamole or Pulque at the same time when they built their stone pyramids and cities.

    • @Yingyanglord1
      @Yingyanglord1 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ArturoLopez-ly2pnAlso instead of marnara there other cheese and fish based sauces

    • @gertvanderstraaten6352
      @gertvanderstraaten6352 Před 2 lety +5

      @@octaviogutierrez9158 There are beans in Eurasia, just different one. But it's still an impressive list.

  • @TastingHistory
    @TastingHistory Před 2 lety +4055

    Thank you again for having me on!

    • @MyHentaiGirlNeko
      @MyHentaiGirlNeko Před 2 lety +59

      Hahaha glad you are popping up left and right !

    • @hndrwn
      @hndrwn Před 2 lety +61

      Someday, I really hope you will open a historic restaurant. Let them eat history =D

    • @ImAnEmergency
      @ImAnEmergency Před 2 lety +33

      THE RISE OF MAX

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory Před 2 lety +49

      @@hndrwn this sounds like a lot of work. Can I just maitre d’ and ask people how their meal is? 🤣

    • @jackcr3937
      @jackcr3937 Před 2 lety +18

      @@TastingHistory Hey Max! Is the video of you making the patties going to be released on your channel soon? Or have I missed it and it’s up already?

  • @jacobcantrell82
    @jacobcantrell82 Před 2 lety +1596

    Now I want some Japanese light novel author to make a book about some chef being isekaied back to Ancient Rome and setting up a hamburger joint.

    • @westrim
      @westrim Před 2 lety +165

      There is at least one restaurant isekai, structured so that there are doors in a fantasy world/s that all lead to a restaurant in Japan (where most of the foods are western, if sometimes filtered through Japanese culture, like Hamburg steak). It's called Restaurant to Another World.

    • @Knoloaify
      @Knoloaify Před 2 lety +128

      It's not that, but there is Thermae Romae. Which is about a Roman architect being randomly iskai'd to Japan and thus discovering contemporary Japanese bath culture and implementing some of its elements into Roman baths whenever he's transported back to his world. It's quite funny.

    • @jacobcantrell82
      @jacobcantrell82 Před 2 lety +33

      @@Knoloaify Yeah Thermae is pretty good. Another great manga set in Rome is Ad Astra which covers the Second Punic War.

    • @wills.e.e8014
      @wills.e.e8014 Před 2 lety +9

      Izakaya Nobu anyone?

    • @amey_pathak
      @amey_pathak Před 2 lety +27

      There's one manga called "Nobunaga no Chef' where a modern day chef gets isekai'd into oda nobunaga's time period and becomes his chef. Pretty good read.

  • @meilinchan7314
    @meilinchan7314 Před 2 lety +133

    The Spanish - especially the Catalans - claim that the Romans DID have a form of "mayo" - look at aïoli. They claim that it was Nero who invented it.

    • @andryuu_2000
      @andryuu_2000 Před 2 lety +19

      That's not invented by Nero. It's much older, and it's just a garlic mayo sauce, used in all western Mediterranean shores (Liguria and Catalunya mainly)

    • @solwen
      @solwen Před 2 lety +13

      The ingredients for mayo have always been very cheap and common in Europe and the Middle East. There is no reason they did not figure out the recipe millenia ago.

    • @Alguien644
      @Alguien644 Před měsícem

      Nah thats not mayo, I'm spanish and yeah it kind of has a bit of similar flavour, but alioli isnt too similar

  • @meemeleem
    @meemeleem Před 2 lety +69

    caesar’s grill would probably get you arrested for defamation, although “fortune flavors the bold” is legendary

  • @Luciferkragoth
    @Luciferkragoth Před 2 lety +1530

    >ancient romans thought butter was to be enjoyed only by barbarian peoples.
    My inner harlaus is screaming.

    • @Thirdperson820
      @Thirdperson820 Před 2 lety +112

      We're at war with four other nations. High time to go on a feast.😂

    • @karl-heinzgrabowski3022
      @karl-heinzgrabowski3022 Před 2 lety +112

      mfw butter is still the most important part of a sandwich in Germany

    • @mixermaster10
      @mixermaster10 Před 2 lety +72

      @@karl-heinzgrabowski3022 Same here in Estonia. I can't understand how people eat sandwiches without butter, I've seen so many people do that in US and it boggles my mind... like isn't it dry af otherwise

    • @thecheekychinaman6713
      @thecheekychinaman6713 Před 2 lety +31

      Romans weren't butterlords

    • @petrmaly9087
      @petrmaly9087 Před 2 lety +21

      Screaming "BARBARBARBAR"?

  • @bigbadseed7665
    @bigbadseed7665 Před 2 lety +1303

    "A street preacher in a backwater town of a distant province even made a parable about mustard seeds."
    Gee, I wonder who that could be?

    • @ryanbrown4053
      @ryanbrown4053 Před 2 lety +193

      Oh man can't believe I didn't catch that at first lol. Repping my man JC

    • @SM-zl4zd
      @SM-zl4zd Před 2 lety +112

      "Kids, let me tell you about another so-called "wicked" guy. He had long hair and some wild idea, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was…I forget. But the point is…I forget that too. Marge, you know who I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car."

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw Před 2 lety +7

      that's just unfair. this parable reveals yeshua's hindu lehre.
      of course its a mystery lol. he was just some guy who thought EVERYONE is god
      right, and wrong, and so here we are.

    • @biblethumpinjesusfreak9822
      @biblethumpinjesusfreak9822 Před 2 lety +77

      @@QuizmasterLaw that’s nowhere near what he taught

    • @pjthehomelessmage
      @pjthehomelessmage Před 2 lety +21

      @@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822 name checks out. 👍

  • @emmaphant02
    @emmaphant02 Před 2 lety +199

    15:54 "Mustard was so common, that a street preacher in a back water town of a distant province even made a parable about the mustard seeds, that we still know of today" - he's is talking about Jesus right?

  • @Null_Experis
    @Null_Experis Před 2 lety +51

    The grape must sauce that Max talked about for the beef in caul fat could be mixed with vinegar and garum to make a passable ketchup substitute. It meets the flavor requirements of being salty, sour, and sweet.

    • @chriss780
      @chriss780 Před 2 lety +1

      try it you madman and tell us if its actually good lol, im curious

  • @joaqincastro5613
    @joaqincastro5613 Před 2 lety +592

    Let's call this burger Bigus Macus

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus Před 2 lety +47

      Yeah, Burger Rex just doesn't seem... Roman enough.

    • @OverseerMoti
      @OverseerMoti Před 2 lety +55

      Magnus Macus?

    • @TRG29338
      @TRG29338 Před 2 lety +75

      I have a good friend in Rome named Bigus Macus...

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus Před 2 lety +68

      @@TRG29338 He has a wife, you know. Incontinentia... Incontinentia Taco.

    • @cpob2013
      @cpob2013 Před 2 lety +18

      Vopper

  • @marcello7781
    @marcello7781 Před 2 lety +288

    Burger Emperor, soon in every major city's forum.

  • @chrismoreno7181
    @chrismoreno7181 Před 2 lety +11

    A guy named Magnum fumus in caesars chariot-thru:
    "I'll have two number IX's, a number IX large, a number VI with extra garum, a number VII, a two number XLV's, one with caseus, and a large posca".

    • @Jamhael1
      @Jamhael1 Před rokem

      Sejanus: "Make it two posca."

  • @MegaTang1234
    @MegaTang1234 Před 2 lety +35

    7:19 Damn, even the Romans knew about the carcegenic properties of too much meat.

  • @Choppytehbear1337
    @Choppytehbear1337 Před 2 lety +853

    This channel has come so far from Total War battles.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Před 2 lety +350

      I do miss making battles videos but find the ability to cover subjects beyond military history to be highly liberating

    • @TheXarus
      @TheXarus Před 2 lety +119

      @@InvictaHistory I think the culture and the everyday man type of videos are so much more interesting and useful for creating a mental image of Ancient Rome. Everyone does battles but your stuff is the best because you show us stuff no one else does

    • @jamesmichael5
      @jamesmichael5 Před 2 lety +12

      Wait this channel has battle vids..how did I miss that🤣🤣

    • @QuantumHistorian
      @QuantumHistorian Před 2 lety +35

      @@InvictaHistory There are so many channels that do military history, please stick to your more diverse approach! Military history might be beloved of pop history, but it's only a tiny part of the whole field. Modern historiography has found other things to study that are of much deeper importance to a society than the size of chainmail rings they used.

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw Před 2 lety +1

      i came for the "o god, what did we do, how do we stop that, what if it happens again"
      I DID NOT STAY FOR THE BURNT COWFLESH AND COWS MILK IS A GOD DAMNGED SIN

  • @krankarvolund7771
    @krankarvolund7771 Před 2 lety +526

    That was really intersting, but I'm disappointed that we did not see Max making this burger, I've really thought he would when we saw images of "patties" cooking XD

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory Před 2 lety +164

      Episode releases next Tuesday :)

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Před 2 lety +40

      @@TastingHistory Oh great :D

    • @williammunoz744
      @williammunoz744 Před 2 lety +10

      Max pulling through haha

    • @john98765333
      @john98765333 Před 2 lety +4

      Don't worry "How to make everything" Did a roman burger recently as well. lol

    • @yeoldedude7464
      @yeoldedude7464 Před 2 lety +2

      I hope he will make some "ketchup" sauce, and some sort of handmade mayo. Maybe cranberry/rapsberry sauce instead of ketchup?

  • @DragonballBlack
    @DragonballBlack Před 2 lety +275

    Love Tasting History. Y’all should collab more :)

  • @Taistelukalkkuna
    @Taistelukalkkuna Před 2 lety +207

    German competition: Teutoburger.
    "Quintililius Varus, give me back my legumes!"
    Ps: Blessed are the cheesemakers.

    • @MrHodoAstartes
      @MrHodoAstartes Před 2 lety +11

      Hum.
      What might go into a Teutoburger?
      I guess rye bread, as was the way of the tribes.
      Berries from the thick and dark forests, stewed into a sauce running red as the blood of three legions.
      Patties from wild boar meat, fattened with the butter so beloved by these barbarii.
      Decorated with gold flakes cut from the wings of stolen eagles.

    • @plt927
      @plt927 Před 2 lety +2

      Since Hamburg already existed in Roman times, you could still call it a Hamburger :D

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 Před 2 lety +4

      @@plt927 Well, yes but actually no. The name Hamburg (or back then, "Hammaburg") only started being used in the 8th century.
      The romans only mentioned a place which may or may not have been located in the same spot as modern day Hamburg. They called it Treva.
      Thus, the proper name for the meal might arguably be Trevanum.

    • @donttrustnoone3921
      @donttrustnoone3921 Před 2 lety +1

      Blessed too, are the Greeks.

    • @blythesaunders3124
      @blythesaunders3124 Před 2 lety

      Blessed are the meek.

  • @ericbozenhard2773
    @ericbozenhard2773 Před 2 lety +243

    As odd as it may sound, mixing garum and other spices in a burger might end up something like a worcestershire sauce flavor.... I would try it.

    • @ai6896
      @ai6896 Před 2 lety +20

      Worcestershire sauce tastes good in venison pattys I'm not sure about beef though

    • @ericbozenhard2773
      @ericbozenhard2773 Před 2 lety +16

      @@ai6896 I use it to flavor meat loaf, and it comes out nice. It would definitely depend on what way you wanted that beef to turn out though. Not for every recipe for sure.

    • @melody3741
      @melody3741 Před 2 lety +6

      That sounds fucking amazing.

    • @StonedWandererAZ
      @StonedWandererAZ Před 2 lety +7

      @@ai6896 My dad puts it in our beef patties every so often and they come out tasting good.

    • @rorykeegan1895
      @rorykeegan1895 Před 2 lety

      @@ai6896 Its great in beef patties, once tried never again omitted ...

  • @UntoldHistoryAnimations
    @UntoldHistoryAnimations Před 2 lety +330

    No wonder Diocletian became a cabbage farmer with all this hype about it

  • @SimuLord
    @SimuLord Před 2 lety +34

    Wait...there's a book from Roman times entirely about cabbage?
    I wonder if Diocletian read it when he started growing cabbages on his farm after retiring as emperor in 305.

  • @magimon91834
    @magimon91834 Před 2 lety +63

    I really love how thouroughly max is integrating himself in the historical CZcams community

  • @anthonybird546
    @anthonybird546 Před 2 lety +322

    THIS is what the internet was invented for. Answering the BIG questions!!!!

    • @matesafranka6110
      @matesafranka6110 Před 2 lety +5

      You might say this is a... whopper... of a question

  • @TNOBasedBatov
    @TNOBasedBatov Před 2 lety +405

    Ah yes, answering questions nobody asked but everybody finds interesting

    • @MajorJakas
      @MajorJakas Před 2 lety +4

      He saw the channel "How to Make Everything" put out this exact same video earlier this morning so he just ripped it off.

    • @JohnSmith-nh2te
      @JohnSmith-nh2te Před 2 lety +23

      @@MajorJakas that doesn’t make any sense. So you’re saying he watched his video, then pumped out this script and art in less than a day?

    • @MajorJakas
      @MajorJakas Před 2 lety +1

      @@JohnSmith-nh2te easy when you're just ripping off somebody else. I saw the other video this morning, then went and tore up and replaced an entire kitchen floor in about the same time. Don't even sit there and pretend as though this has a huge production value. ALL of the slides for this video could be made in seconds, especially for experienced creators.

    • @redrevise4668
      @redrevise4668 Před 2 lety +18

      ​@@MajorJakas Then we shall praised Invicta for the speed of their uploads.

    • @earthknight60
      @earthknight60 Před 2 lety

      Answering a question we already know the answer to and even have recipes detailing:
      museumcrush.org/the-1500-year-old-recipe-that-shows-how-romans-invented-the-beef-burger/

  • @iurilimaco2068
    @iurilimaco2068 Před 2 lety +88

    This has nice isekai vibes. Something like "That Time When I Reincarnated in Ancient Rome and Started a Burger Shop". It may be the past, but maybe it still counts as an Isekai, since the past is almost like another world.

    • @asurveillancecamera3392
      @asurveillancecamera3392 Před 2 lety +2

      What is isekai?

    • @222cristobal
      @222cristobal Před 2 lety +6

      @@asurveillancecamera3392 Going to another world. Its an japanese term.

    • @juanjuri6127
      @juanjuri6127 Před 2 lety +4

      Try reading Therma Romae, it might be up your alley

    • @redoctane13
      @redoctane13 Před 2 lety +5

      @@asurveillancecamera3392 Literally "another world", a person ends up in another world/dimension/reality/time and then shenanigans happen, sometimes tragedy, sometimes comedy, other times both. Sometimes it's by some jerk god, others because of truck-kun, usually it's a one-way trip w/ some magical power/powers as a "lol sorry" apology from w/e being caused you to be there.

    • @machirim2805
      @machirim2805 Před 2 lety +3

      If this was set in the late Republic/early Imperial era, our protagonist would probably join forces with the Guild of Millers in making true roman hamburgers for true romans

  • @weed884
    @weed884 Před 2 lety +5

    11:11 you can hear him breaking up about the lack of tomatoes

  • @juandgm6171
    @juandgm6171 Před 2 lety +237

    Me waiting for the last part of avenging Varus
    Invicta: HAMBURGERS IN ROME?

  • @whynot-tomorrow_1945
    @whynot-tomorrow_1945 Před 2 lety +102

    * steps out of time portal into a Roman street *
    "Boy do I have a business proposition for you!"

    • @VOTE_REFORM_UK
      @VOTE_REFORM_UK Před 2 lety +10

      You mean: “Puerum enim habeo negoti propositionis pro vobis est”

    • @Maydaypayday7
      @Maydaypayday7 Před 2 lety +2

      @@VOTE_REFORM_UK unless it’s 476 Rome

  • @jorenbosmans8065
    @jorenbosmans8065 Před 2 lety +23

    "we invited Max Miller from tasting history for this one"
    You now have my full and undivided attention. I love it when the history channels that I like are working together.
    Also, good burger I think

  • @Metalhammer1993
    @Metalhammer1993 Před 2 lety +6

    "Mustard was so common that a street preacher in a backwater town made reference to it's seeds that we still know today" man that took a minute but then my laughter startled my neighbour

  • @ampeyro
    @ampeyro Před 2 lety +64

    "Bread light enough to float in water"...
    I don't think I've ever seen a bread that sinks.
    Even including all those weird artisanal brown bricks with random seeds.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar Před 2 lety +19

      Then you haven't encountered flour spiked with powdered chalk or limestone...

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord Před 2 lety +17

      @@SonsOfLorgar Ah yes, the White Cliffs of Dover Burger.

    • @paulohagan3309
      @paulohagan3309 Před 2 lety +7

      @@SonsOfLorgar Just shows you the delicacies we've missed since the introduction of food standards and safety ....

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 Před 2 lety +11

      Just goes to show you how light and fluffy modern baked goods are that it was something to take note of.

    • @plt927
      @plt927 Před 2 lety +4

      My first baking attempts wouldn't float 😂
      German Pumpernickel would also sink

  • @razormc954
    @razormc954 Před 2 lety +18

    Do Pulled Pork.. As pork was incredibly common in Rome, you wouldn't disrupt the timeline

  • @itshistorysenpai2895
    @itshistorysenpai2895 Před 2 lety +48

    If Invicta has time travel machine, he would be a very successful businessman in history

    • @Dan_Kanerva
      @Dan_Kanerva Před rokem +2

      if we could back-travel with the knowledge of today... we would become Gazillionares...
      which is why i think people like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk are time travelers

  • @bowmaster619letschug6
    @bowmaster619letschug6 Před 2 lety +24

    One recipe I personally would like to see recreated in a Roman fashion would be Bao or pork buns similar to those in the Pixar Animation of the same name. It's one of my personal favorite recipes and I feel like the Romans would have easily had most if not all of the ingredients necessary for that

  • @menschman1464
    @menschman1464 Před 2 lety +64

    The grillers guild, True Roman hamburgers for true romans.

  • @dazednotconfused1503
    @dazednotconfused1503 Před 2 lety +33

    Seeing max again put a smile on my face. Such a good guy

    • @TastingHistory
      @TastingHistory Před 2 lety +9

      Awwww, you're makin' me blush.

    • @PauaP
      @PauaP Před 2 lety +2

      Oh shiz fam, max just replied. Sweeeet.

  • @nerner266
    @nerner266 Před 2 lety +5

    About the patty binding being made with bread crumbs and milk: we still do it like that in Spain, I'm sure other mediterranean countries do it as well. It's not that is not done like that today, it's just that you don't do it like that in the US. Same thing with the bun, we don't toast it in butter, neither oil generally. Rather we tend to like it plainly. Hope that helps

  • @michaeldean1934
    @michaeldean1934 Před 2 lety +9

    In research a few years ago I read about Roman street vendors with a variety of meat cuts from which the customer could choose which would be ground up. Also at this point nuts and other spices could be ground with it. This was made into a patty that would be cooked on a piece of slate with a fire under it. After being cooked, it would be put into a sliced piece of bread and wrapped in paper. I do not have the citation, however.

  • @Anglomachian
    @Anglomachian Před 2 lety +110

    Please tell me Cato’s shop sold something called the Salted Porcius.

    • @OverseerMoti
      @OverseerMoti Před 2 lety +11

      Wasn't it Salted Sus? (This is *not* a ref to a "certain game")

    • @HiHi-lh3ps
      @HiHi-lh3ps Před 2 lety +7

      @@OverseerMoti when the imposter is crucified by Tit *sus* for overusing a meme

    • @l.pietrobon3925
      @l.pietrobon3925 Před 2 lety

      @@OverseerMoti AMONGST

  • @TheSaneHatter
    @TheSaneHatter Před 2 lety +16

    "Burgers," hell! Based on this list of ingredients, I might have had better luck digging a barbecue pit and slowly cooking up some quasi-Texas-style brisket or pork: covered only in salt and pepper, with a vinegar-based dipping sauce at most. I just need to find the right kind of wood . . . and some way to wake myself up WAY early to start smoking!

    • @cmyk8964
      @cmyk8964 Před 2 lety +1

      Garum can be mixed with simmered vegetables and fruit and turned into barbecue sauce!

  • @Alkis05
    @Alkis05 Před 2 lety +28

    "What do you say about making money on banking?"
    "What do you say about making money on murder?"
    Bankers. Getting shit for the last 2000 years. XD

  • @iliftthingsupandputthemdow4364

    Me: waiting for the video on the conclusion of Germanicus campaigns against arminius
    **Invicta: Did Roman's have Hamburgers?**

  • @JustGrowingUp84
    @JustGrowingUp84 Před 2 lety +41

    Mate, I love these videos, about the lives of regular people. And food is such an important part of that!
    Even speculative videos like this are cool, since it's limited to the ingredients and techniques of the period.

  • @thenoble1
    @thenoble1 Před 2 lety +55

    I am screaming at the "you need eggs to keep a burger together" line. Slaps of someone who has never made a burger in their life.

    • @AlienFromBeyond
      @AlienFromBeyond Před 2 lety +4

      Same, absolutely horrible and turned me off from the video and channel quickly quite frankly.

    • @spaceface124
      @spaceface124 Před 2 lety +16

      @@AlienFromBeyond Then unfortunately you missed the note around 10:23 which acknowledges that the Romans themselves didn't use eggs as a binder. They preferred breadcrumbs.

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Před 2 lety +3

      @@spaceface124 you don't need either.

    • @Trieh
      @Trieh Před 2 lety +15

      Y'all burger purists need to touch grass, it ain't that deep.

    • @user-ze7sj4qy6q
      @user-ze7sj4qy6q Před 2 lety +1

      i was looking for this comment lmfao. i mean i guess u Could put it in, i guess, but "have to" is pretty fucking strong lol

  • @esper6119
    @esper6119 Před 2 lety +1

    The happy Romans eating happy lil Roman cheeseburgers at the end is so wholesome
    it makes me hapy,

  • @jusk8lp
    @jusk8lp Před 2 lety +10

    "from a beautiful white loaf to grainy hard tack"
    My brain: *insert Max hard tack cutaway gag* XD

  • @bonefetcherbrimley7740
    @bonefetcherbrimley7740 Před 2 lety +24

    Finally, someone asking THE REAL questions!

  • @NotMyGoogleID
    @NotMyGoogleID Před 2 lety +9

    I honestly prefer these kind of "how they did it" everyday lives over wars and armies

  • @xrayABooD
    @xrayABooD Před 2 lety +15

    ahh yes, another dose of “a questions i never asked but i want to know their answers”

  • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa Před 2 lety +29

    I know this goes without saying but thank you so much for making these videos about every-day life. It’s a much more interesting topic than the endless discussions about military tactics and politics that most self-proclaimed history buffs engage in

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus Před 2 lety

      Everyone should know history well, and it's a shame that the field is stereotyped and relegated to memorizing names and dates primarily of battles. It's far more important, crucial even, to understand cultures of the past in their wholesale, their saints and heroes, how they lived and worshiped and ate and died..sigh.

    • @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa Před 2 lety

      @@seronymus Precisely. I don't sit here thinking about politics or wars every day. The thing that concerns me is being able to pay the bills and have fun with my friends and loved ones. I imagine the exact same thing was true of the past. I don't think the average Roman sat around discussing military strategy and the Roman Emperors constantly, he was probably also more concerned with being able to pay his rent and provide for his family.

  • @alexhurlbut
    @alexhurlbut Před 2 lety +95

    They did had ketchup, it just wasn't tomato ketchup.

  • @Jacob562622
    @Jacob562622 Před 2 lety

    I'm really digging these cross over/collaboration episodes. Both you guys and Tasting history did a great job in both your videos. Thanks you both so much for the great content!

  • @JackKenton
    @JackKenton Před 2 lety +1

    I love the look on Caesar's face on the Caesar's grill sighn. It's as if he's daring you to come in to the grill, with a hint of a grin, cause he knows you will.

  • @sststr
    @sststr Před 2 lety +77

    There's a condiment called "mushroom ketchup", which is similar to tomato ketchup, but uses mushrooms in place of tomatoes. They wouldn't have been making it 2000 years ago, but there's no reason they couldn't have, in terms of ingredients and preparation technique, just nobody thought of it.

    • @dashofsalt4359
      @dashofsalt4359 Před 2 lety +5

      I believe strawberry was used after that, which has been driving me nuts since I found out..

    • @MrHodoAstartes
      @MrHodoAstartes Před 2 lety +7

      Well, the whole ketchup idea comes from Indonesian soy sauce, so calling it that goes right out the window.
      But a savory mushroom sauce of some description seems likely to have existed.
      Maybe like a relish with garum.

    • @LeoStaley
      @LeoStaley Před 2 lety +11

      I didn't like how he concluded against using mushrooms. There may not have been quality control, but if you sell mushrooms, your life (economically and physically) depends on you being able to discern between types of mushrooms. Furthermore, the Mediterranean is home to fewer dangerous mushroom species than America is, and they tend to be less dangerous.

    • @redoctane13
      @redoctane13 Před 2 lety

      @@dashofsalt4359 o_o

    • @qdaniele97
      @qdaniele97 Před rokem

      @@LeoStaley Moreover, even today the vast majority of mushrooms consumed in europe (and certainly the most prised ones) are naturally grown and hand picked from forests (good luck trying to grow "porcini" in an artificial controlled environiment).

  • @RikoJAmado
    @RikoJAmado Před 2 lety +73

    You'll get the burger but it won't come with ketchup, tomatoes, or a side of Gaelic Fries.

    • @MrRourk
      @MrRourk Před 2 lety +5

      But we could have goat cheese

    • @MrRourk
      @MrRourk Před 2 lety +4

      Mushrooms we could have those

    • @rosiehawtrey
      @rosiehawtrey Před 2 lety +6

      At least no one mentioned "freedom fries" - the person who came up with that little gem is due a dose of rectal implement, hold the olive oil...

    • @RikoJAmado
      @RikoJAmado Před 2 lety +2

      @@MrRourk I would love to taste the “Greatest of All Time” cheese! See if it lives up to its claim!

    • @RikoJAmado
      @RikoJAmado Před 2 lety

      @@rosiehawtrey I know right? Eh he heh heh.....* quickly searches to delete that exact comment made in previous video about Fast Food in ancient Rome*

  • @jezusbloodie
    @jezusbloodie Před 2 lety

    This is probably my favourite series on CZcams now. I hope it delves deep into other periods and cultures, like knowing how and what all these individuals humans over the history of mankind ate feels like something special..
    Kinda a peak into that transcending individual yet collective human experience

  • @dhgelling
    @dhgelling Před 2 lety +4

    Fun fact: In the east of Spain, caul fat is still used to wrap minced meat in local traditional dishes, like the figatell in València

  • @granddukethedan7029
    @granddukethedan7029 Před 2 lety +9

    Just you wait, Invicta is gonna create a fast food chain serving Roman food!

  • @the_bohemian4536
    @the_bohemian4536 Před 2 lety +30

    Finally asking the real questions.

  • @intra9645
    @intra9645 Před 2 lety +2

    I normally don’t comment on videos, but I’ve really enjoyed the content this channel provides! Educational and intriguing content that helps me prepare for my time travel! Thanks!

  • @andryuu_2000
    @andryuu_2000 Před 2 lety +2

    Romans had a sandwitch that we sorta still eat in Italy and other Mediterranean countries to this day
    Also 4:49
    that's the most based and southern-italian-pilled thing I've ever heard: usually northern Italy cuisine is more Celtic and Nordic influenced (hence the local languages like Lombardo, Genovese, Piemontese and so on for each North region are really close to French) thus making them use more butter than the rest of Italy. Below Emilia Romagna olive oil is the main seasoning in most dishes, the more you go to the south (Sicily, Calabria, Puglia) the more oil you will find.

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 Před 2 lety +41

    The mayo (aeoli!) can be as simple as whole eggs, oil, salt and vinegar, with some elbow grease. I love a burger with it.

    • @gerard8203
      @gerard8203 Před 2 lety +6

      Aioli is with garlic too

    • @jansenart0
      @jansenart0 Před 2 lety +4

      @@gerard8203 Can be. It's a fancy name for mayo with no real distinction (I did the research on it a few years back).

    • @gerard8203
      @gerard8203 Před 2 lety +5

      @@jansenart0 no offense. It literally means "garlic and oil" in catalan "all" and "oli". Aioli (or Alloli) without garlic is not aioli

    • @jansenart0
      @jansenart0 Před 2 lety +2

      @@gerard8203 The origin of the word is disputed.

    • @gerard8203
      @gerard8203 Před 2 lety +3

      @@jansenart0 yes the origin of mayonnaise is disputed. But "aioli" is what it means and that's simply garlic and oil. There's no way to deny that, you just can't

  • @knightshousegames
    @knightshousegames Před 2 lety +15

    It's so strange, I've been watching this channel for years, but I just found Max Miller a couple of weeks ago, and now he's here.
    I love when CZcams sometimes reminds me how small the world can be.

  • @traviswebb3532
    @traviswebb3532 Před 2 lety +1

    Now this is an amazing crossover episode. Love both these channels so much.

  • @Krebscast
    @Krebscast Před 2 lety

    It's awesome that you collaborated with Max again. Love both your channels 💜

  • @georgecunningham9175
    @georgecunningham9175 Před 2 lety +8

    Finding well produced, clever and informative, along with speculative and inquisitive content such as this makes muddling through some of the trite and self-aggrandizing drivel that clutters CZcams worthwhile. I already know how to match my lip colour with my well organized DIY bohemian spa bathroom, so finding something that entices thought, engenders hypothesis, and adds to my historical knowledge is just soooo satisfying. Thank you!
    PS I should have mentioned that in addition to all of the above this channel is also just plain old FUN and darned entertaining!

  • @BaltoSaber
    @BaltoSaber Před 2 lety +18

    I just need to say that the origins of Mayonaise are spanish and not french, specifically its from an island in the Balearics called Mahón (thats where the name comes from)

    • @solwen
      @solwen Před 2 lety +1

      The name mayonnaise comes from "moyeunnaise" ("moyeu" being the old French word for "egg yolk").
      But the ingredients being so common, i'm sure it was, like beer, discovered independently by many people in the world.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před 2 lety +29

    Calling them Hamburgers wouldn’t be ITTC compliant.

    • @grahamparks1645
      @grahamparks1645 Před 2 lety +2

      Well that’s for our usage trade secret & all I’m sure a proper Roman name can be created for them

    • @grahamparks1645
      @grahamparks1645 Před 2 lety +2

      How about cibum disco panis testudo (cd testudo for short) then one day testudo becomes the slang for a round sandwich on a round bun much like the Mexican torts sandwiches or carni pani testudi (cpt) or disco testudo (dt)

    • @jcdentongaming1304
      @jcdentongaming1304 Před 2 lety +1

      @@grahamparks1645 "panis"

  • @vincentvassallo5727
    @vincentvassallo5727 Před 2 lety

    Love seeing videos like these where the animation rises to the level of the fantastic narration. Keep up the good work!

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions Před 2 lety +60

    "I wonder at those who think about their body's food, but do not think about their soul's food. They keep away disturbing food from their belly, but fill up their hearts with destructive subjects.“
    - Hasan ibn Ali

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw Před 2 lety +4

      that's unfair. everyone must eat. not everyone even has the chance to think about anything other than that. see 1.

    • @vertigq5126
      @vertigq5126 Před 2 lety +2

      @@QuizmasterLaw But “man cannot love on bread alone.” God gives us purpose in life, if your only purpose was to toil away for food each day, why not just give up and die? Everyone must search their hearts and know the truth: Christ is our salvation, the only way to God our Creator!

    • @404Dannyboy
      @404Dannyboy Před 2 lety +4

      @@vertigq5126 If your only purpose in life is a likely fictive and certainly unproven sky daddy then that is a problem. Life has plenty of meaning without religious faith.

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar Před 2 lety +1

      @@vertigq5126 you need a psychiatrist...

    • @piotrgrzelak2613
      @piotrgrzelak2613 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SonsOfLorgar why would he need a fraud specializing in selling drugs

  • @blitzkrieg2928
    @blitzkrieg2928 Před 2 lety +5

    The next video on making a Roman Pizza ( aside from the ancient focaccia :3 )

  • @lucaschang689
    @lucaschang689 Před 2 lety

    Another Invicta and Max Miller crossover video? AWESOME! I'm really enjoying these as the food/culture feels (and tastes) much more real, that our ancient ancestors are actually closer than we think we they were!

  • @DG-jq7il
    @DG-jq7il Před 2 lety +2

    To be fair, I toast my burger buns with olive oil, and rubbed with garlic, not to mention i have used ciabata bread as well. Now for the patty, I use beef, pork, egg, and mushrooms. To season, garam would work, because it was also addictive, and i would also add dried garlic, onion, and mustard seed. Now for the toppings, lettuce, pickles, onions, a good sheep cheese, and pork jowl bacon. For the condiments I would go with a honey mustard and an olive oil aioli. This burger could be made then as i can make it now. The mushrooms were foraged, but there were experts you could hire to find them, just as there are experts in Europe today.

  • @krankarvolund7771
    @krankarvolund7771 Před 2 lety +3

    10:15 In France it's called crépine, and we make crépinettes with it, that are prettymuch what you did, a flatten sausage, in a veil of coal fat, that you cook. The fat melts, and it's really really good!
    It can also be used for roasts, pâtés and terrines.

  • @FlappyOW
    @FlappyOW Před 2 lety +18

    Strangely close to HTME's Ancient hamburger video released just a few hours ago, weird coincidence.

    • @Th3Nigma
      @Th3Nigma Před 2 lety +3

      Today's lesson is EAT MORE BURGERS. Jk.... unless?

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Před 2 lety +3

      Invicta is pioneering the ancient fast food craze. :D

    • @SimuLord
      @SimuLord Před 2 lety +1

      I'm watching this as I'm eating some McDonald's I had delivered at 3 AM. Let's see the Romans pull THAT one off!
      ...I wonder if the Internet's influenced my food choices tonight...

  • @martinnolhaf3151
    @martinnolhaf3151 Před 2 lety +10

    I'd like to see you make some Carthaginian salted Pork. Extra Salty pls.

  • @OptimusPater87
    @OptimusPater87 Před 2 lety

    Yesss another collaboration between Invicta and Tasting History, awesome stuff guys!

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 Před 2 lety +93

    You do not need eggs (or anything but beef and salt) to make a good burger. Source: I make excellent burgers.

    • @Direxit
      @Direxit Před 2 lety +26

      Yes. Also grinding meat in a mortar and pestle would destroy the texture, it would be better to cut it fine with a knife like Steak Tartare and then work it by hand a little until it binds.

    • @TommyGuy1111
      @TommyGuy1111 Před 2 lety +12

      @The Big Kiwi Yeah, that's the point. It stops being tender and becomes chewy. At that point you're not making a burger, you're making sausage.

    • @anguishedcarpet
      @anguishedcarpet Před 2 lety +3

      @@Direxit just because some beef ground more than you prefer doing it it at home, it doesn't immediately cease being hamburger lmfao

    • @e_da_g2161
      @e_da_g2161 Před 2 lety

      actually, only beef salt does something with the proteins and makes the meat less tender

    • @Darryl_Francis
      @Darryl_Francis Před 2 lety

      Truth!

  • @jasepoag8930
    @jasepoag8930 Před 2 lety +31

    Is this a collab with HTME, or just a REALLY strange coincidence?

    • @harrisondimm7384
      @harrisondimm7384 Před 2 lety +1

      I was thinking the same thing lol

    • @Callmecel
      @Callmecel Před 2 lety +4

      Strange coincidence - great minds just think alike sometimes!

    • @jasepoag8930
      @jasepoag8930 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Callmecel funny, I thought it was some kind of "let's all make Roman burgers collab" for historical themed channels.

    • @Callmecel
      @Callmecel Před 2 lety +1

      @@jasepoag8930 That woulda been neat!

    • @Raptorclaw62
      @Raptorclaw62 Před 2 lety

      It's just burger day today 😎🍔

  • @AlphaRebel
    @AlphaRebel Před 2 lety +1

    A street preacher in a distant town. Gee, wonder who it could be. I absolutely love this channel.

  • @chenoaholdstock3507
    @chenoaholdstock3507 Před 2 lety +1

    Max is back! Woo hoo! You two teaming up is the BEST

  • @Sk0lzky
    @Sk0lzky Před 2 lety +4

    As long as it has normal or flatbread instead of those horrible buns I'm fine. It may even be soaked with garum
    PS Fun fact: first ketchup and direct ancestor to ketchup (and weshesheshe sauce) was something very similar to garum. With no tomatoes!

    • @Sk0lzky
      @Sk0lzky Před 2 lety

      @Fat Freddy's Cat aye that was it I think. Rotten fish and mushroom and vinegran and mushroom varieties, idk which one was first

  • @BlueBeetle1939
    @BlueBeetle1939 Před 2 lety +6

    Thank so much ever since I saw a kid in king Arthur's court all I've ever wanted was to go bavk in time and open up the first McCaesar's!

  • @ashleysteinhaus9447
    @ashleysteinhaus9447 Před 2 lety

    Love this idea! You guys should do a series or an all kinds of food and how it could be translated back in time

  • @Ve55el
    @Ve55el Před 2 lety

    !!!!! I just found this channel! Thank you!!!! ...just to let you know, I subbed within 10 seconds. Quality is instantly recognizable.Thank you for the hard work, amazing research and friendly presentation. I'm aware of how hard it is to run a channel.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 Před 2 lety +6

    Now *this* actually asks real Questions!

  • @LegionarioPersa
    @LegionarioPersa Před 2 lety +3

    The Guild of Invicta uses only the finest ingredients, true Roman Hamburguer for true Romans!

  • @tdotjazzberryram61
    @tdotjazzberryram61 Před 2 lety

    Cool history idea, cool collaboration!! Please continue as a series guys !

  • @sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149

    Now I can't help but imagine a burger joint that sells hamburgers themed after various historical civilizations, with the appropriate ingredients. And of course with the appropriate sides and snacks.
    Honestly, I think a place like that could do pretty well. I'd certainly go there!

  • @raul12300
    @raul12300 Před 2 lety +3

    i love this type of content please make a series of videos like this, would really like to see one about pizza, even if I know it would be a sad no tomato sauce pizza.

  • @yourdadsotherfamily3530
    @yourdadsotherfamily3530 Před 2 lety +4

    Lmaooooo I literally got a bunch of ground beef yesterday night, then prepped coals for tonight this morning when I got up before work. I got home and checked my upload feed and you uploaded a burger video great timing but I forgot my Garum xD

  • @hibikiazuma
    @hibikiazuma Před 2 lety +2

    This is the type of content a time traveler would love.
    Not saying I am one. No one ever does. Or can.

  • @milkcultleader2706
    @milkcultleader2706 Před 2 lety +2

    0:30 sheeesh that hämburger just popped into reality, such magic

  • @thecashier930
    @thecashier930 Před 2 lety +3

    Love the video!
    One correction I need to make though: Burger pattys don't need egg. Eggs in Burgers are a bit like cream in Carbonara: an easy way to make the dish a lot easier to cook. If you're careful when making them it's absolutley possible to leave the eggs out. I think in one of Gordon Ramsays videos on Burgers he mentions this. It also makes the burgers taste different (a bit more exquisite and fine imo). I can only recomend trying it without eggs.

  • @chowderheadify
    @chowderheadify Před 2 lety +4

    "Legate why are you crying?"
    "I miss my wife"
    "I gotchu, eat this sow's vulva"

  • @douglasmacquarrie5002
    @douglasmacquarrie5002 Před 2 lety

    Love the cross over this was awesome I hope to see more like this 🤘

  • @richardtaylor6341
    @richardtaylor6341 Před 2 lety +5

    Me after reading title: **eye rolls** 🙄
    Me after pondering it 0.7 seconds: Wait, that's actually a really good question!