The Beatles MONO Vinyl Box Set Battle - 1982 vs 2014
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- The 1982 mono set is one of THE rarest Beatles box sets. In this video, we take it apart and find out how it measures up to the mighty 2014 mono box set.
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Having grown up in the 80's and thus being accustomed to the stereo versions of the 60's recordings and never having experienced the era of mono vinyl and AM radio, I always felt that mono was just inferior and archaic and contained no inherent benefit whatsoever towards stereo. I also had the Yugoslav pressings of the first 3 Beatles albums, which all used the stereo mixes, while elsewhere they were only available in mono back in the day, and while the Yugoslav vinyls and cassettes were generally of lesser quality, I still preferred those. It wasn't until the Beatles mono albums were reissued in 2009 that I completely shifted my opinion on that issue, and Sgt Pepper especially was an absolute eye (or in fact ear) opener. Before that I could have never conceived that such a sonically complex and multi-layered record of all things would actually sound better in mono, but lo and behold, I stood corrected. Since then, I keep looking for original mono mixes of anything 60's and fortunately, a lot of those have been reissued on digital by now, such as the Dylan and Stones albums, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, or the complete Motown singles discography. There are still exceptions though. Jimi Hendrix for instance was practically born for stereo and he would basically go crazy on that format with all those panning sound effects, and I still do prefer the '95 stereo remix of Pet Sounds to the original mono version, as a matter of fact. But overall, I've come to appreciate the more punchy and dense sound of mono as opposed to the somewhat thin and empty sounding extreme channel separation of old stereo, which can be quite strenuous to the ears, especially on headphones.
The first Hendrix album sounds awful in stereo. Hard panned with no cool effects
@@thomascars1 True, that was rather crude 4 track technology. I was thinking more of Electric Ladyland though. Jimi would've gone mental on surround sound if he'd had the technology available back then.
I recently found and bought a black mono box #849. All the albums are near mint and the box is very good plus. It’s amazing. Definitely something I will hold onto and pass on to my kids. Thanks to Andrew and this channel my Beatles vinyl collection is something I’m proud of. Because of this channel I have added the Mono box set, the German Magical Mystery Tour (A1-B3), and maybe my favorite, the Yellow Submarine soundtrack.
Really interesting analysis....I never even knew there was a mono box in the 80's!
Thanks for watching, Steve!
Me neither !
you prolly dont care but if you are stoned like me atm you can watch pretty much all the latest series on instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my gf for the last couple of months =)
@Cole Zev yup, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for months myself :)
Recently scored the mono Rubber Soul from this batch, with the -5/-5 cutting (the perks of working in a record store). It sounds amazing and perfectly balanced.
Harry Moss did a cut of dark side of the moon in 1976. I have his version on vinyl and it sounds fantastic
As a long time Beatles fan, I am always thrilled hearing about rare sets like this 1982 mono box. This was a treat to watch.
I bought the red mono box when it was released in the US 'n to my dismay 'n disappointment discovered that side 2 was actually a stereo mix. I complained to EMI 'n received a true mono copy 'n letter from an executive who said he pulled it from his own box as they were no longer available! Thank you for pointin' out this flaw in yer video-the first time I've seen anyone else share this information. I'd thought perhaps mine was the only one.
You were lucky to get a replacement, John!
Another great, informative video from the Mark Lewisohn of Beatles on vinyl.
Thank you, Alex. High praise indeed!
I was always under the impression that Mark Lewisohn was prohibited by EMI (and their corporate successors) from updating his book about "The Beatles Recording Session" with updated or additional info.The owner of the recordings owns the copyright on that book that Lewisohn wrote. It is possible that some recordings that were thought lost at the time were later found. Clearly, Lewisohn was not actually able to listen to some of the 1963 sessions that he wrote about. Yes, the "With The Beatles" outtakes (excepting "Don't Bother Me" & "Hold Me Tight") are gone. The tapes were re-used. But more outtakes from the "Please Please Me" sessions (beyond those heard on bootlegs) may have been found. And Lewisohn never spoke about why the single version of "Help" has a different lead vocal.
@@56dinosaur Lewisohn has been out of the Beatles loop since he got accused of copying and leaking the sessions tapes (he didn't) to bootleggers and Harrison believed (was told) he was the culprit because he was listening to all those tapes before they got bootlegged. Lewisohn had no knowledge about the single version of "Help!" because it was only figured out in recent years that the mono vocal was done at the film studio not EMI. Lewisohn himself now disowns "Recording Sessions". I assume it's because of inaccuracies about the recordings. Lewisohn was pressed to finish on a certain date and was not able to hear everything so he apparently made assumptions on some things. For example we now know Eric Clapton played live on all the basic takes of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" his guitar was not an overdub on the best take as was assumed. Lewsohn saying "You Won't See Me" has no Hammond organ is an obvious goof. Also saying the stereo mix of "Money" was done by playing two tapes in sync is a goof.
Andrew - you have me hooked on these highly detailed comparisons. Please keep them coming.
Will do, Bob.
It's like there is way too much to know. I didn't know before I started watching him that there were differences between the same songs on differeny vinyls
16:26 SPOT ON! The bass is virtually nonexistent in the '14. A complete travesty! I enjoy your videos very, very much. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Thanks for watching!
You should do the original stereo mixes vs. the 2009 remaster. Either that, or The Beatles Collection vs 2009 remasters.
This was fantastic Andrew - please keep them coming ! 👌😊
Thanks Stuart, will do!
I enjoy watching and listening to your detailed research and recollections. Music is a wonderful hobby and no one can ever touch the Beatles. Cheers!
Thank you. Glad you enjoy them!
Wonderful explanation of how the '82 set was produced. I was always curious about Harry Moss' level of involvement. I do love my 2014 box, and this just confirms that they did an excellent job. To "complete" my collection, I have a MoFi Abbey Road, LIB UK box, and then a copy of disk 2 of 1967-70 (for The Ballad of John & Yoko, Old Brown Shoe, and the Let It Be 45 mix).
Wow... great job, Andrew!!! Love your videos!!!
Thank you, Luis. Love your videos too!
Thanks for another great video!
The first time I heard about the 2014 box I wondered what the point of mono was.
Still I decided to buy it, sound unheard & brand new for $350 Canadian.
It blew my socks off! The magic of a great mono mix is that the sound stage is centred in one's head!
My faves are Revolver and The White Album.
Well worth waiting for this Video Andrew, never seen this red box before. Keep these informative videos coming please mate
Thanks, will do!
I have been excited to see this video and you certainly haven't dissapointed. I have learnt SO much from this video. .and thoroughly enjoyed every second. It appears that, overall, the red box beats the 2014 sonically however...the sleeves in the 2014 are superb. Thank you so much Andrew for making this ;) cheers from down under
Thanks Steve, glad you enjoyed it.
Very interesting. I bought the first four LPs of the 2014 mono series and to my ears they sound as good or better than any version to have come before.
When I was still filling some (big) gaps in my Beatles collection in the early '80s, I remember seeing some of the separate mono LPs on sale in my local Boots' record department (priced at £4.99 each). I'm afraid I didn't buy any as I was still in the 'stereo must be best' mindset. Missed opportunity.
Love that Beatlesque copyright free track you open the video with (as any content creator does in their given situations with their particular videos). It's a great example of how the Beatles would have sounded if they sucked. 😂😂
But now in all seriousness, I always enjoy your content. Although while you are a huge vinyl collector predominantly, my collection only goes as far as the CDs. But thanks to you, I've come to appreciate the art of the remaster or mix. That's why despite buying the 2009 box sets, I kept my 1987 CDs and excitedly picked up the US box set, along with all the following remixes in current years including the deluxe 1+ Blu-ray set. Not to mention everything in between like the BBC, Anthologies, and "Naked" CDs. And that's just the audio part of the collection...well, most of it. 😊👍🏼🔥🔥
This hits hard 😮
Great analysis, Andrew. I've had the BM1 box (#391) since I received it as a Christmas gift in 1982. Since then, it's been dubbed to Cro2 cassette, minidisc, CD and finally iPod. Other than that, I try not to touch it! It contains the stereo labelled Yellow Submarine, the -1 cut of SPLHCB, and the Harry Moss recuts of Rubber Soul and With The Beatles. The White Album is all -2 cuts except side 3 which is a -4 cut (and all 4 sides are muddy, IMO). By far my favorite versions I own of Please Please Me, Rubber Soul, SPLHCB and Revolver. Looking forward to your next video.
Very interesting and informative ! Enjoy your videos !
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!
The red box was a consideration prior to the 2014 but I'm happy with the 2014. Interesting to see how the 2 boxes compare. An oversight by EMI/Apple to not iclude 'Oldies' in the red box.
Another great video. Good attention to detail with the waveforms supporting the analysis.
Thanks for watching, Russell.
Tremendous work! I'd love to see a video devoted to the Magical Mystery Tour EP.
Even as someone who - I'd like to have thought - has a fair bit of knowledge about Beatles rarities, I've never heard of this boxset before. I only thought there was just the stereo box set in the 80s. Thanks for a great video!
Glad to be able to add to your knowledge, Daniel. Thanks for watching!
This channel never ceases to amaze me how much information there is on these pressings. Another amazing video. There was a box set that came out in 1988 I believe that came with Magical Mystery Tour & Past Masters, any chance in doing that one next?
Thanks! If I find that set, I'll take a look.
Are you referring to the one that came out in the black roll top case? I think the consensus it that it's not great (being produced from the mediocre 1987-88 CD masters), even compared to the 2012 box
@@KBTime The 1988 vinyl rolltop box is a mixed bag. In the US, the original Capitol albums up to Revolver were also reissued that same year. These Capitol albums were the last that used analog sources. I've been on the hunt for them!
WoW
Not just a comparison between the two Eighties mono box sets; a comparison of the sides of each release between the two.
Stellar.
Next level would be a comparison of every tube cut release for every title.
One vid for mono & one vid for stereo.
Ultimate pressings of each album.
Do appreciate you take wear into consideration; sometimes suggesting later pre-solid state releases, due to generally to less wear.
Thank you.
I always wondered why new vinyl albums seemed considerably quieter - thanks 👍
This is quite helpful. There are some original mono albums that I’ve passed on, assuming that the 2014 box (which I own) is as good if not better. It appears now that I should seek out some of the original copies. I’d love to see a similar study done on the EP and Singles boxes, as they all seem to be a mishmash of recuts, and reused labels.
Wish I would have known about this red or black boxed set back then. I definitely would have tried to locate it.
It occurs to me that from now on every Beatle song can be remixed and then released many times. Every time they can boost the vocals or boost any instrument or even add sounds from tracks that were left off the original releases. In his way EMI will make a fortune.
What EMI needs to do is release all Beatle songs in the future on a new medium that has ALL the isolated channels on it so it is in effect an exact copy of the MASTER TAPE. Together with the launch of a new player for this new medium the listener can play back these songs either in the default way they were originally released OR the user can boost any track with a mixing table included with the player. So in effect the user can pay back any way they want and listen to any isolated track or boost tracks etc.
Listen to bass track only or drums only or vocals only. Then if you add AI you can isolate parts that are on one track .
I wouldnt pay for any new releases based on new mixes BUT I would pay for both all Beatle songs released with all individual tracks accessable to the listener and the player needed.
Hey Andrew, thanks for another great analysis!
I've read all the comments so far and the recommendations for future videos are good, but starting to border on obscure and/or fringe subjects. However, there is still a very mainstream item you have yet to cover.
After BC13, best UK pressings, Mono boxes comp, Singles boxes comp, etc, I believe it's time to address the big elephant in the room: the 2012 Stereo Box Set.
Yes, it's cut from digital sources and yes there is already dozens of videos about it. But none with the insights and detail granularity that you put recordings through in your analyses.
It's probably the most popular Beatles box set ever sold, the only one you can still currently purchase at a "reasonable" price and I still believe "Beatles for Sale" and "Help!" from the Stereo boxset sound better than the 2014 Mono versions. Keep them coming. Cheers!
I hear what you're saying Fernando and I'll get to the 2012 set eventually. However, I've got a few more subjects to do before then. Cheers, Andrew.
Just discovered your channel. Great job! I had a similar experience as an Ohio teen in the early 80s -- great local record selection, but didn't have the funds to go on a buying spree. I did finally procure a pristine Blue Box a few years ago, though! :-)
Thanks for watching and welcome aboard!
excellent review!!
Thank you!
GREAT INFO, THANKS!!
You're welcome!
I remember the blue box sets of LP's, 45's and EP's being sold in TSS record world in the early 80's, and, like you, wishing we could afford it. So, I did the next best thing and bought the stereo LP's one by one (they had the purple Capitol label at the time.)
Hi Andrew, brilliant video I was wondering about this exact topic - I have the 2014 box which in my opinion is superb. Ah ‘The Beat Goes on’ haha now that’s a blast from the past! I grew up in Cambridge what a great shop. Parrot records on Kings Street and Andy’s Records (upstairs) I also spent way too much time (and money) in! I’m guessing you’re a few years younger than me (I’m 52) but we were probably browsing in there at the same time 😂
Thanks! All great shops sadly long gone.
Another home run on this one - well done!!! I remember seeing the red box as an import in 1982 when I was 16 in A&A's in Toronto. The price was too great for me to spend at the time, but looking back on it I wish I had purchased multiple boxes (when time travel is invented, I will pick you up another box lol). I think you could do a comparison of the UK and German pressings - as they are very interesting (bass heavy stereo Revolver, DMM White Album on white...etc) OR possibly the Australian pressings (as you know they would sometimes use the same stampers). I was lucky enough to get a few of the 81/82 mono pressings on Ebay a few summers ago that were imported into the US with these interesting white labels on the front. Message me if you have never seen these labels before. :) Mind you, I was outbid for Revolver and Help (but snagged Please Please Me, A Hard Day's Night, Beatles For Sale, Rubber Soul (the -5/-5 mmm!), The White Album and Yellow Submarine (-1/-1 too!).
Thanks, Chris. UK/German comparisons from the 70's could be interesting. Individual 81/82 monos tend to crop up more in the States but they're getting rarer and more expensive everywhere. I've not seen the white labels you mention.
I'm currently in the process of piecing together the 2014 box set.
Brilliant brilliant brilliant
Thank you, Anthony.
Hi Andrew. I just got me a fantastic condition black mono box today, certificate number 0792, for a very reasonable amount of money! Watching this video again, I cannot wait to play them! The pressings in this box are the same as the ones in your red box. I don’t remember if you had said why some boxes are black and some boxes are red, or if there’s any difference in quality.
Unfortunately, I have to wait to get a new cartridge and a needle, and re-calibrate my turntable before I’m gonna play these! Love your channel!!
The red boxes were originally UK only. The black boxes were for export to the U.S. Enjoy!
Thanks Andrew! Thanks to you I will plan on getting a 2014 mono box set. Currently on a mission to find the best sounding versions of Beatles albums after day hind your previous videos several times. But harder in South Africa to find all of those UK presses. May be future videos on US presses of albums?
Thanks for watching, Nadessen. Hope you manage to track down a 2014 set.
Another great video, Andrew. What about the sounding of those export editions, such as Beatles VI and Something New? Best, Nelio.
Thanks, Nelio. If I find a significant difference between those export albums, I'll certainly do a video on it.
Hi Andrew,
Great stuff...I think it was a good suggestion to seek out the 1981 pressings individually then getting the boxset...as its quite pricey these days.
One thing that might be interesting is to do a comparison of say ...the Japanese pressings...I do realize there are a few variations (the flag series..the beatles forever series...or even the 1966 Ever Clean Series which used the Odeon labels)..but it would interesting to hear how they compare. Also numerous German pressings seem to get favorable reviews. Just a thought.
Thanks again for all your hard work.
Mark Anthony K
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Thanks for watching, Mark. It would be interesting to compare German/Japan pressings from the 70's/80's with the UK pressings. I'll add that idea to my ever increasing list!
I had the black box, number 320, and my friend had the red box. Both long since sold, sadly.
Excellent video covering this set! I sold off most of my 81 pressings but I still have a PPM lying around, luckily it has the original -1N cut on side 1, it sounds fantastic!
I’ve owned two of the black boxes over the years and a full set of individual mono LPs. However, I sold both black boxes when the 2014 mono box came out. I do wish I had kept one now! For individual LP set, I saved all the org cuttings copies there were rather than any of the recuts though.
I believe I have found a 1982 Sgt Pepper Mono. Sounds very nice. Has an EMI white inner sleeve with record care instructions.
Congratulations!
Thanks for your video! It was awesome to watch as well. Did Japan also put out a mono box around the same time? If memory serves me right, I bought a Japanese White Album mono around that time (I was also 15) for around $19.99, the most I had ever spent on a record at that time. Wow! What a treat it was! I ended up selling it in the mid 90s for around $80. For nostalgia, I wish I'd kept it 😔
There was a Japanese mono set on very nice red vinyl in 82 and 86. Both had different masterings I believe. I have a full set of the red 82 pressings, which I still consider to be very good sounding. It was near impossible even then, to find the whole set. There was an 82 Japanese box set also, but I’ve never seen one in my 40 odd years of collecting.
There’s no other person on YT who doing such great content on Beatles vinyl! Please carry on! No doubt it would be priceless set (even more than it is) if EMI would let Harry to cut all new laquers!
Harry Moss has been dead for quite a while now.
Sorry if you got me wrong, but I was talking about this particular 1981 mono cuttings. Harry did just a few new cuttings for this set not all of them. But if EMI spent a little more time and money for this release-it would be great to have opportunity to hear something different (solid state equipment has it’s own sound and maybe Harry could use different EQ’s). Maybe it would not be better- but we never know.
Thanks for watching. More soon.
I kinda remember the 1981 mono collection box set. I say "kinda" since I never actually saw a black box since I live here in the U.S., specifically L.A./Southern California. What I remember is seeing one on the mono LP's, Beatles For Sale at a Montgomery Ward's in West Covina, California. What probably happened is Ward's got a copy of the black box, and broke it up to separately sell each album. I don't remember how much Ward's charged for the BFS mono LP, but I knew this was special, since I didn't see any other that day, or never saw any of the other mono UK albums on return visits.. I begged either my Dad or grandparents, I don't remember who I was with that day, to buy it for me...they flatly said no. I was a bit disappointed, but I got over it.
If I can, I'd to suggest a video on the differences between the original 1987/88 CD releases, and the 2009 remasters. That would be fascinating. Thanks for the great videos.
Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these videos. Do you know why they stopped the mono campaign?, the Mono box goes for more than USD 1,000 these days.
They clearly underestimated the demand for this set. I hope it gets re-pressed, but it's unlikely. Thanks for watching!
1981 revolver sounds amazing!
I have the Black Box Mono set 484. It has a some damage on a small area of the box next to the number. I was told that some of the numbers had to be removed and replaced because some had duplicate numbers. I was also told that only 999 were made.
Thanks for that interesting information, Mark.
You note the meticulous care given by EMI to all things Beatles. The Beatles, along with Cliff Richards, were allegedly the only two EMI artists to be granted such a luxury after a clear-out order came from the top dogs at the company to destroy old company paperwork. The purpose of this (circa 1985) order was to make room for perhaps more recent paperwork on newer artists, or maybe even work space for EMI in England. I first heard this from someone in the UK back then. In the later 1980s and early 1990s I heard about the after effects from an American audio researcher who had worked in at least two compilation projects on the Hollies at the time (the same person was involved in a couple of Beatles' reissues as well). If you can imagine, looking for historical, landmark recordings somewhere in the EMI UK vaults, only to not be able to immediately locate them due to EMI's earlier "paper cut" policy. We are so lucky with the Beatles.
Showdown of best modern mono cut for Sgt Pepper's & Revolver (only on bluray for the White album, but why not?)
You should put all this information in a book!
Hi Andrew
Your video on the red beatles box set was fantastic man it's the best video on the red box
Out there I think it's the only video on the red box is the black box the same as the red box
Love the videos on the beatles keep it up my friend Andrew can you do a video on the beatles please please me rare stereo gold on black LP Dave.
Thank you, Dave. The PPM gold stereo is on my list!
$90 back then....only one is on Discogs right now, just shy of $3000! 😲
Budget Friendly BEST (especially those of us in the USA): 1978 Stereo All-analog Harry T. Moss cuts FROM The Beatles Collection (aka Blue Box). Mono - The Beatles in Mono CD Box set. -1 matrices don't always mean "better". German cuts are the dark horse in the 70's on Apple labels.
Hi. Just recently discovered this channel. Loving it! I’m very curious about the 81 White Album. I actually just picked up a copy with the -2 -2 -4 -2 matrices. It sounds great. The video mentions the Side 3 -4 matrix being from a 60’s tube cut but I can’t find it in discogs. Is this a certainty and it’s just missing from discogs?
Welcome and thanks for the sub. It is true about the side 3 -4. I've had original pressings with it on.
Very interesting. Discogs isn’t perfect I guess! Thanks for all the vids and info and for the reply. Keep up the good work!
I have the 1982 mono white album but side 4 is in stereo
Maybe one day you could do the background story to The Beatles At Hollywood Bowl l.p.
I used to own black mono box # 999 but I stupidly sold it back in 1996. Dammit. I also had another black box, but I can't remember the number, it was 5 hundred something. I do still have a red box I bought for only $100 about 25 years ago, fortunately.
Hello Andrew, what a fantastic video, i have a question, i have a original 1966 mono copy of Revolver and i searched some info about it, it has "Doctor Robert" spelled as "Dr. Robert" on both the label and cover itself, now it seems this fetches a fairly high price (about €150) and i'd like to know if that's about the right price to ask for it, because i'm very confused. Greetings
Thanks for watching, Robbe. Your valuation is correct, if it's in Near Mint condition.
Andrew, your closing comment seems to indicate that you prefer solid state over tube cuttings. Or do I misinterpret? And btw, although I have a vintage 7n With the Beatles, I find the -8 cutting really wild and meaty sounding.
I paid too much for a beat up mono Pepper, not realizing it was a 1981 pressing. Even with the surface noise the 1981 mono Pepper is fantastic. If you come across one grab it. Like Andy says it will be the only Yellow and Black Sgt. Pepper pressing that says mono on the record label itself.
Hi Andrew back again can you tell me the value of the Beatles mono red box set please Dave.
About £1,500
love that its signed by “john lennon” when its 1982
Not understanding the appeal of The Beatles in mono, I did a bit of online research after watching this video and realized the issue is much more complicated than I thought. I also didn't know that certain mono needle cartridges can damage stereo albums.
Have you ever evaluated any of the Mobile Fidelity issues of the Beatles LPs? In particular, they also issued a Beatles Box: The Beatles "The Collection" which came out around the same time as the 1982 Box set. I'm curious as to how it compares, in your opinion, to the other versions you have evaluated.
I have a couple of the MFSL discs and plan to do some comparisons soon. Thanks for watching.
In 1981 I bought the US black box version (my number is 530). Is the sound quality the same as the UK red box version? My cutting numbers are pretty much the same as the ones you describe (my copy of Rubber Soul has -5 cutting on side 1 and -6 cutting on side 2), except that I have -1s on both sides of Sgt. Pepper, suggesting the US black box sets were produced earlier than the UK. Does that make sense?
Hi Andrew**, I hope you see this, and thank you for your great videos, but I am wondering, what is your overall though on the Japanese Box Sets or general take on Beatles Collection? Also, It would be really helpful if you give some thoughts on the Mobile Fidelity Boxset,
Thanks!!
I'll be looking at the 1986 Japanese mono box set shortly. Thanks for watching, Andrew, not Mark ;)
@@Parlogram ops! Thank you again (Andrew) for all these great videos. You have become one of my favorite channels on CZcams and my to go source of any Beatles related topics!
Keep up the great work!
@@athas12 Thank you!
What do you think of Get Back and Don't Let Me Down in mono? Either 1982 or 2014? Having those two in mono seems a bit unusual because everything at this point was stereo. When this single was released, there was no Let It Be or Abbey Road, yet. A change happened here.
A friend gave me the black roll top cd collection, about 20 years ago, would like your opinion on this issue please, if you have it of course,
Also I want to add that my Sgt. Peppers from the box is mono on both sides.
Are the HTM recut pressings more or less desirable with this series?
Hi Andrew
Having lived with the 2014 box set for a few years now, if push come to shove and you could only ever have one or the other which one would you go for ?
2014
Get the Beatles mono box 2014
Blue UK stereo box
German magical mystery tour
Blue red albums and you are done
Andrew, am I to understand that the individual albums released first and individually were different cuttings? To the extent that if, somehow, I got hold of an empty red box and "populated" it with the individually released albums, it would not be the same? If they are different, are they worthy of your attention?
That's right, Kevin. The initial 1981 mono pressings used the original '60's stampers. By the time the red box was compiled in 1982, many had been re-cut.
In other words, you gotta turn up the volume on those 2014 issues.
I’d be interested to hear your opinion of the Japanese red vinyl mono box
I've already done a video on it: czcams.com/video/9la3gK9jHbg/video.html
I just came back to delete this - I just found it! Thanks man, you know your custard from your onions, that’s fer sure!
Awesome information you provide, Andrew! I agree that your research is top notch. If it hasn't already been mentioned before, how about a look at Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab's half-speed mastering cuts box set that was issued in the 1980's? I'd specifically like to learn if the original master tapes were used and if you think this set would be the ultimate to own as far as sound quality goes. Mine sounds outstanding, and I guess that should be all that matters but I'm wondering if there's still better out there...
Quick question. Were the 1982 monos still requiring a mono cartridge to get the best sound or are you able to play them on a stereo set? I know the 2014s do not require a mono cartridge
Hi Bryan, I played both sets with a stereo cart using the '2-Y cable' method as shown in the video. It makes any mono pressing sound amazing.
@@Parlogram Oh okay sounds good thats reassuring! Honest opinion, would you take the 1982s over the 2014s? I am currently eyeing a 1982 box and was wondering I I should pull the trigger or get a 2014 set
@@Parlogram forgot to add, this is taking into account the fact that I do not mind not having the mono masters included in the 1982 box
I always felt side 2 of help sounds better than side 1.
@@mrnobodyz Used vinyl?? That could be because the previous owner(s) preferred one side to the other so the difference you’re hearing is less wear.
My copy of the 1982 white album is -2, -2,-4, -2 but no HTM. So is it tube cut?
Yes, all those are tube cuttings.
Why has EMI never put together a compilation record of solo Beatles songs, especially when they were all still recording for Capitol?
Very comprehensive and detailed. Have you ever made a comparison of sound quality of the 1980s picture disc singles vs the originals? That would be most interesting.
The LP picture discs sound very noisy. I will investigate the singles when I find some.
Staring at wave forms is much more entertaining than comparing the sound of Beatles songs. . . .Really.
I have a New Zealand Stereo Box set, I understand only about 500 were sold.. A blue box with Old Gold letters. What do you think? Covers are fading but pressings are very nice. all New Zealand. I have sales invoice. Also I have New Zealand Singles Box. Everything is mint.
Nice condition New Zealand LP box sets go for around A$500. I've never seen a New Zealand singles box.
@@Parlogram NZ singles box is a black box with gold lettering ,lift off top and the sleeves are the same as the UK.They even say Made In GB. The pressings are all NZ with Parlophone in yellow. The pressings are very nice and clean. I also have the Australian singles box,They had a lot more singles even has the movie medley single.
'oy mate, what about the 1982 Japanese Red Wax Mono set? EMI in Japan released the Mono catalogue on the Odeon label in red vinyl. I have a set of those. And to my ears there is no better sounding Beatles mono anywhere!
Great idea, mate. Fancy lending me yours?
@@Parlogram I know you're kidding. LOL If you've never heard any of the LPs from the Japanese Red Wax Mono release, checkout eBay. I know they are selling some of those LPs separately. You should try to pick one up and give it a listen just to compare.
@@RRStout I have heard some in the past and agree that they are 1st class. If some come my way again, I'll certainly do a video on them.
Hi Andrew
Dave can you help my please
I got this record form a Carboot for £2 pound it’s the Beatles sgt pepper album to me looks like album form the red r black box set form 1981 can you me know what box it’s form the run off number is on side one XEX 637-1 and on side tow XEX 638-1 and it’s got MONO on the label and on the top of the jacket it has p 1967 original sound recordings made by E.M.I. Records Limited is there any value in this record dave.
I once had the red box set - but the pressing quality of the album was very poor.
I've heard reports of problems with mono 'White Albums' from this set, but all in this one were good.
Hi there! You never said which box set won? LOL
Does the 1982 mono box set come with a mono masters?
No, it didn't. The only 'extra' disc was 'Rarities'.
@@Parlogram So, no "She Loves You" & "I Want To Hold Your Hand"?
Rarities was only included in the stereo blue box. The 1982 mono set contains only the 10 original mono albums.
I don't get it in the ultimate mono box you said 2014 PPM is better and here you say 82?
Slightly off topic Andy , but seeing as we are from the same stomping ground did you ever get to see inside SRT
Studio / pressing plant in St. Ives?
I got invited there a few times by the owner Karen just before it shut down. I cringe now looking back on stuff I passed over as I simply didn’t have the room to store all the stuff she wanted rid of.
I got offered boxes and boxes and boxes of old master-tapes that no-one wanted anymore , I just didn’t have the storage room to take a chance of buying it nor the capability of playing it either....although they did offer me to buy the old huge tape machines , I’m guessing the Struder machines, but again where would I put it all?
Now of course analog tape machines are all the rage again but at the time nobody wanted them , I had 3 domestic use Akai tape machines at the shop for cheap that no-one wanted to buy so where would I put these professional machines?
I could kick myself now of course !
They had loads of “mispressed” picture discs with the wrong picture in them or wrongly placed inside the vinyl sandwich , I did buy a load but I also passed on an awful lot more .....
Hi Dai, Shame about all that equipment at SRT. I never got to go there myself. The vinyl presses would be worth a fortune now. Cheers, Andrew.
Substitute Princeton for Cambridge (Princeton Record Exchange) and 1980 for 1982. I believe my first big time investment was a John Lennon Box Set on Apple ($50) which I FOOLISHLY sold, unlike you.