Which Pokémon Have Been in EVERY Game Since Their Introduction?

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  • čas přidán 15. 01. 2024
  • It can be easy to lose track of what Pokémon are in which games, and how often they appear, but is there a Pokémon you can Always count on to be there in the roster of whichever game you happen to be playing? Well let's find out as a we dive in a follow every Pokémon through the years to see if they crop up somewhere not only in each generation, but in each of the different versions including remakes (with Let's Go being the only exception...)
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  • @Facebones2391
    @Facebones2391 Před 4 měsíci +2046

    Psyduck/Golduck not being water/psychic was the biggest disappointment I ever had with a Pokemon.

    • @enzoforgets9456
      @enzoforgets9456 Před 4 měsíci +33

      Naw golduck is already stat wise bad why give it more weaknesses and a type that has no defensive value and mid offensive value

    • @EverythingPSPOfficial
      @EverythingPSPOfficial Před 4 měsíci +289

      @@enzoforgets9456for lore reasons obvs

    • @Mr.Monday94
      @Mr.Monday94 Před 4 měsíci +159

      Mine is Luxray not being electric/dark.

    • @s2l4t9
      @s2l4t9 Před 4 měsíci +26

      It paved the way for the greatest Pokémon ever Slowbro

    • @enzoforgets9456
      @enzoforgets9456 Před 4 měsíci +27

      @@s2l4t9 yea it wouldve except they debuted the same game

  • @swagkirby3449
    @swagkirby3449 Před 4 měsíci +698

    Psyduck is Junichi Masuda’s favorite Pokémon, that’s why it’s always there

    • @BoltBlades12
      @BoltBlades12 Před 4 měsíci +17

      Why can’t they just make Psyduck the mascot?

    • @swagkirby3449
      @swagkirby3449 Před 4 měsíci +85

      @@BoltBlades12 It was supposed to be the secondary mascot of Let’s Go but they realized they both would be yellow

    • @Championoko
      @Championoko Před 4 měsíci +11

      Also too much one specific demographic. For a mascot at least.

    • @brandonf1400
      @brandonf1400 Před 4 měsíci +50

      @@swagkirby3449 i mean to be fair... Eevee is a much more fitting secondary mascot considering Gary, Ash's rival, had one in the anime, and the rival in the Pokemon Yellow Special Pikachu Edition (who for all intents and purposes is meant to be Gary) chose Eevee has his starter

    • @hippopolove
      @hippopolove Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@swagkirby3449 And one have type advantage into the other

  • @CaptainObliviousV
    @CaptainObliviousV Před 4 měsíci +1605

    It warms my heart to know, even after we got Blueberry Academy, Unova is still Pikachu free.

    • @FlygonkingVGC
      @FlygonkingVGC Před 4 měsíci +209

      No electric rats here. Only electric bugs that drain a lot more electricity

    • @Mepphy99
      @Mepphy99 Před 4 měsíci +59

      yeeeeah ... wait until the remake Just makes us Remember how Pikachu Is Pikachu

    • @ParasocialCatgirl
      @ParasocialCatgirl Před 4 měsíci +169

      Unfortunately, you're incorrect.
      Do you recall the room in Castelia City in which you meet the Name Rater?
      Well, in BW, there is also a Hiker NPC in that room, standing there with Gesundheit, his Pikachu, whom you can also talk to.
      So no, unfortunately for everyone, Unova is not quite the pristine Pikachu-free paradise you believed it was.

    • @CaptainObliviousV
      @CaptainObliviousV Před 4 měsíci +163

      @@ParasocialCatgirl well at least they’re absent from the natural wildlife🤷‍♂️

    • @korayven9255
      @korayven9255 Před 4 měsíci +122

      @@ParasocialCatgirl invasive species

  • @SuperGreenLuigi
    @SuperGreenLuigi Před 4 měsíci +490

    Fun fact: Psyduck is Junichi Masuda's favorite Pokemon! He love it so much that he originally wanted to make it as Pikachu's counterpart mascot and partner for Let's Go games but ditched that idea because the colors were too similar.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +73

      Oh wow! Let's Go Psyduck would be quite a different game!

    • @VanAkita
      @VanAkita Před 3 měsíci +24

      That explains why it is Misty's signature Pokémon. Not her strongest of course, but you can't even mention Misty without bringing up Psyduck😅❤️.

    • @meeb_consumer
      @meeb_consumer Před 3 měsíci +6

      That might explain the weird typing. I've tried the creature design pokemon-like thing myself and a lot of the early stuff is my favorites but a lot of elements I regret. One of the earliest is a hypnotic parasite that's Poison/Air element. Idk why I didn't make it psychic.

    • @seronimo__7735
      @seronimo__7735 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I wonder how much influence he had in Detective Pikachu (the movie), since Psyduck was Lucy's Pokemon

    • @xShortRangex
      @xShortRangex Před 3 měsíci

      I wonder how he'd like it if Psyduck didn't make it into the next games. :^)

  • @sableyefan
    @sableyefan Před 4 měsíci +1194

    I’m surprised we never got a regional psyduck, magnemite, rhyhorn, or magikarp line. I kinda wanna see these “perfect attendance” Pokémon with a new coat of paint.

    • @RoninofCrimsonMaple
      @RoninofCrimsonMaple Před 4 měsíci +66

      Do we count Sandy Shocks as doing something special for Magneton?

    • @sableyefan
      @sableyefan Před 4 měsíci +20

      @@RoninofCrimsonMaple that is more akin to a convergent species like Toedscool.

    • @RoninofCrimsonMaple
      @RoninofCrimsonMaple Před 4 měsíci +33

      @@sableyefan Im aware. I respect any answer relating to it, but despite the dex entries going "Eyo, thats something completely different. Not even on the same biological tract", we all collectively go "Yeah, thats a variant of X"
      but I guess in universe it isnt.

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 Před 4 měsíci +17

      I wanna see an alternate Magikarp evolution that looks more like what Magikarp should evolve into.

    • @eglol
      @eglol Před 4 měsíci +3

      Me too, they would all look really cool with a new form ngl

  • @ZimVerse
    @ZimVerse Před 4 měsíci +381

    Bittersweet fact: Scarlet and Violet are the first games the Gogoat line have appeared in since there literal introduction in X/Y.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +182

      True, but Zebstrika had it worse; since it wasn't in ANY regional Dex after Unova until the Indigo Disk!

    • @kylecresswell0478
      @kylecresswell0478 Před 4 měsíci +91

      @@emperorcubone the fact that Blitzle was only obtainable on one single route and that's IT for 13 years is a crime.

    • @XenithShadow
      @XenithShadow Před 4 měsíci +27

      @@emperorcubone I feel as though venonat and glameow have it so much worse.
      Venonat has only been in gen 1,2 and 9's regional dex. Technically it in remakes. of the gen 1 and 2 games.

    • @lazyhippie6139
      @lazyhippie6139 Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@kylecresswell0478Agreed, Blitzle is so cool.

    • @chipklip1309
      @chipklip1309 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Meh venonat has had much more appearances plus it’s been on switch from the start

  • @Sillyghostfreak99
    @Sillyghostfreak99 Před 4 měsíci +236

    I love how Pikachu/Psyduck follow that Mickey/Donald dynamic of having the duck surpass the rodent at times.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +43

      That begs the question then; who is the Pokemon Goofy...?

    • @g-forcefgt323
      @g-forcefgt323 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Maybe jigglypuff

    • @lisapearson5324
      @lisapearson5324 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Slowpoke?

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Před 3 měsíci +7

      I've always liked Donald over Mickey.

    • @FireFoxie1345
      @FireFoxie1345 Před 3 měsíci +23

      @@emperorcuboneGoofy is a dog so we will need a dog like Pokémon. Goofy is also close friends with Mickey since the beginning. We need a dog like Pokémon from Gen 1 with close relations with Pikachu. I think the best choice here is Eevee. Eevee is a gen 1 Pokémon. That shares being a starter with Pikachu at the same time. Eevee is also a fox which are closely related with dogs. This means I think Eevee fits well with being Goofy.

  • @secret12392
    @secret12392 Před 4 měsíci +273

    Thank you to all Paldea mons for being with me every step since they were introduced. Paldea OGs are real ones for that. 🙌

  • @EshwarGx94
    @EshwarGx94 Před 4 měsíci +176

    Magikarp & Psyduck line exist in the wild in every game, surely GF loves them more than anything else

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +26

      Or at least Gyarados...

    • @EshwarGx94
      @EshwarGx94 Před 4 měsíci +26

      @@emperorcubone Yeah the entire line itself. Magikarp got its own mobile game alongisde a mega & appearance in the wild in every game

    • @hhjan594
      @hhjan594 Před 4 měsíci +23

      Actually, Psyduck is Masuda's favorite Pokemon. So yeah, here you have the reason.

    • @kuruminightcore326
      @kuruminightcore326 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Gyarados is joining pokemon unite next week xD

    • @joseruborio
      @joseruborio Před 2 měsíci +1

      Unovan people be like: Hey Magikarp is rare like Pikachu, dude!!!

  • @ShadowXeldron
    @ShadowXeldron Před 4 měsíci +84

    Forget Legends Kyurem, I'm now going to be campaigning for Legends Psyduck.

  • @waylontfd3076
    @waylontfd3076 Před 4 měsíci +51

    I was about to say Ralts but then I realized it can't be caught in FireRed/LeafGreen and now its occuring to me just how crazy it is that any pokemon made it all the way from gen 1. Great video!

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +8

      I know right! Insane that they're so dedicated...

  • @ShinyHunterSolyu
    @ShinyHunterSolyu Před 4 měsíci +194

    The Abra line and Zubat line were a shock to me that didn’t make it to gen 9

    • @ezracohen3859
      @ezracohen3859 Před 4 měsíci +30

      Also the machop line

    • @ShinyHunterSolyu
      @ShinyHunterSolyu Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@ezracohen3859 that’s true.

    • @Uohhhh777
      @Uohhhh777 Před 4 měsíci +18

      Paradox zubat was a threat

    • @benji7449
      @benji7449 Před 4 měsíci +7

      ​@ShinyHunterSolyu yeah i ev trained mine thinking it would be available in the Dlc,huge disappointment

    • @ichadpromax
      @ichadpromax Před 4 měsíci +14

      Those two alongside Machamp and Roserade were cut out of SV. It feels like GameFreak went out of their way to exclude all my favorites in SV and I'm salty lol

  • @fax8553
    @fax8553 Před 4 měsíci +42

    Gonna start playing through all the generations with a team consisting of these pokemon

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +7

      It could be a fun challenge!

    • @SheepStar8
      @SheepStar8 Před měsícem

      @@emperorcubone It would be cool to try it as a Nuzlock where if the Pokemon dies in one of the games you can't use it in any of the future games. Of course, I'm not saying this is necessary. Just saying another idea.

  • @KekuTheLaughing
    @KekuTheLaughing Před 4 měsíci +37

    Man, that Magneton card gave me a huge hit of nostalgia.

  • @_cat_smith_
    @_cat_smith_ Před 4 měsíci +59

    One that I'm genuinely surprised didn't show up (that I'm not sure anyone else would immediately think of) is the Gastly line. For some reason, I picture them as a mainstay, with Nintendo defaulting to "we need a ghost Pokemon in this area, put Gastly in"
    Besides, in terms of popularity, everything you said about Psyduck's constant presence, if you really think about it, can also be said about Gengar.

    • @weirdguy1495
      @weirdguy1495 Před 3 měsíci +11

      The Gastly line has only ever been absent from RSE, every Unova game besides White 1, and ORAS.

    • @JrIcify
      @JrIcify Před 2 měsíci +1

      The most iconic ghost line by a large margin.

  • @cyberneticsanity
    @cyberneticsanity Před 3 měsíci +20

    If you didn't include Legends Arceus, Chinchou would actually be one included in the list! Not only was it in every game (minus Arceus), it was even included in EVERY side game thats ever come out since gen 2 except Puzzle Challenge, which is crazy considering it is quite forgettable for some people. I feel lucky because Chinchou is my favourite💖 What wild dedication for this silly light fish :)

    • @FireFog44
      @FireFog44 Před 3 měsíci +1

      It's not in FireRed/LeafGreen, unfortunately.

    • @cyberneticsanity
      @cyberneticsanity Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@FireFog44 Oh you're right, it can't be found in the wild anyway, though can be traded in. Mixed that up, thanks for correcting me! Still in so many others which is crazy though

    • @joseruborio
      @joseruborio Před 2 měsíci +1

      Chinchou was released in Hoenn, so technically it didn't appear in Kanto and Johto.

    • @FireFog44
      @FireFog44 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@joseruborio Chinchou is a gen 2 Pokemon. The only mainline games it isn't in are the gen 1 games, the gen 1 remakes, and Legends Arceus.

    • @cyberneticsanity
      @cyberneticsanity Před 2 měsíci

      @@joseruborio Chinchou is gen 2! So released in Johto. However the video states that games before it's release doesn't count unless they're remakes that include other gens, like fire red and soul silver

  • @Facebones2391
    @Facebones2391 Před 4 měsíci +113

    Of course Rhydon is in every game it is the first Pokemon ever designed. Nothing tops that cred. Not even Pikachu, Clefairy was almost the mascot instead.

    • @joseruborio
      @joseruborio Před 2 měsíci +6

      Rhydon didn't appear in Unova and Alola

    • @gjioeviojve
      @gjioeviojve Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TheFirstCurse1 no, Rhydon was first. Even the video mentions Rhydon was first...?

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@gjioeviojve I'm sorry. I got them mixed up. I thought that Rhyhorn was Rhydon and vice versa.

    • @Facebones2391
      @Facebones2391 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I like that the comment that actually had stuff to talk about got no attention but I say I used to think Psyduck was psychic and people lose their minds.

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Facebones2391 LOL yeah that is pretty funny. But most people (including myself) still to this day think that Psyduck and Golduck are Water/Psychic type.

  • @Umbreon-ln7fe
    @Umbreon-ln7fe Před 4 měsíci +43

    Watching this with my massive Psyduck plush because I knew he'd made the cut. Surprised by some of the others though

  • @doorbox788
    @doorbox788 Před 4 měsíci +11

    that’s the reason gyarados became my most used pokemon, as well as one of my favorite of all time. A super reliable pick that you can evolve by the second gym, and can be used the entire rest of the play through. He even gets dragon dance as a level up move in newer generations. My gyarados even swept Paldea as well. He’s the gift that never stops giving

  • @hhjan594
    @hhjan594 Před 4 měsíci +18

    Psyduck actually makes sense to be in all games as it's Masuda's favorite Pokemon.

  • @RoyArkon
    @RoyArkon Před 4 měsíci +11

    That's one of the reasons why Golduck is my all time favorite Pokemon, because you can find it in every single game. I always have Golduck on my team and I'm super happy for it.

  • @redhead_bebs
    @redhead_bebs Před 4 měsíci +64

    Considering how much work would go into this, I feel like you could make this into a series. You would just cover each generation showing us just how far each line can get. Maybe you could show it both with AND without remakes, because then you can see which Gen 5 Pokémon, if any, got through Kalos, Alola, Galar, and Paldea (because obviously none of them were in BD/SP).

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +29

      You know, that is a good point; without remakes I'm sure others WOULD have made it in, like off the top of my head I know Mimikyu is in Galar and Paldea after Alola, so it would be worth revisiting...

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@emperorcubone I checked, and if you discount remakes then Riolu (and by extension Lucario) makes the cut. Sadly, Cubone is not that omnipresent.

    • @matthewroberts198
      @matthewroberts198 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@emperorcuboneIf Legends: Arceus didn't hold it back then the Sandile line is in every region since its introduction

    • @ElPikminMaster
      @ElPikminMaster Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@emperorcubone Spoilers for Bulbapedia's "List of Pokemon by availability" page and my own video on this topic:
      Gen 2: Heracross. That's it if you don't count Blissey. Gen 2 representation has done dirty by GF.
      Gen 3: As FRLG is allergic to Pokemon native to Hoenn, Barboach is the closest Pokemon from Gen 3-5 available in all Pokemon games. Also note the Swablu, Ralts, Wingull, Makuhita, Trapinch, Absol, Spheal, Beldum, Shuppet, Luvdisc, Carvanha, Relicanth, Bagon, and Wailmer lines.
      Gen 4: To no one's surprise, the Riolu line is the most available Gen 4-debuted Pokemon. Also note the Drifloon, Gible, Hippopotas, Bronzor, and Shinx lines, as well as Bonsly, Weavile, Mamoswine, Honchkrow and Mantyke.
      Gen 5: Axew's the most available. Also note the Petilil, Sandile, Roggenrolla, Trubbish, Alomomola, Larvesta, Zorua, Rufflet, and Deino lines.
      Gen 6: Sylveon has been available in every individual version since its debut [that can allow Gen 5+ Pokemon]. Also note Klefki and the Phantump, Fletchling, and the forever version exclusives Clauncher and Skrelp lines.

  • @zuralani1
    @zuralani1 Před 4 měsíci +14

    As a human version of psyduck but without the magic powers, I'm glad to see it on the list

  • @pokehunterhd
    @pokehunterhd Před 4 měsíci +9

    Uh why is let's go excluded due to only having the pokemon that were there during the original games generation (and the meltan line), but BDSP ISN'T excluded, it didn't have any pokemon past gen 5 in there, it didn't even introduce any new ones.

  • @tobiasgund8048
    @tobiasgund8048 Před 4 měsíci +31

    I would have cut out BDSP too, as they are even closer remakes than Let's Go.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +7

      Yeah, I'm sure without those ones being so strict we would have seen several from later gens as well...

    • @PeridotEX
      @PeridotEX Před 4 měsíci +4

      Legends Arceus would still be a bottleneck. I think the only ones that would get perfect attendance would be the Goomy and Rowlet lines.

    • @BernieTheDevastator
      @BernieTheDevastator Před 3 měsíci +2

      BDSP is more remasters than remake

    • @brycesonmoon655
      @brycesonmoon655 Před 2 měsíci

      @@PeridotEX sylveon too, the freaking mascot of the fairy type. Block by bdsp.

  • @HectorT52
    @HectorT52 Před 4 měsíci +9

    The moment the rules were stablished I said "Psyduck must be there" and for a moment I feared it wasn't in some of the new games I didn't played

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      You should have more faith in the little guy!

  • @MistahG21
    @MistahG21 Před 4 měsíci +10

    As a person who’s favorite Pokémon is Gyarados, I see this as an absolute win

  • @k-8543
    @k-8543 Před 4 měsíci +15

    I knew that the Zubat line was in almost every pokemon game. You could even get Golbat in the black and white post game. Until pokemon Scarlett and violet. I was hoping that the Zubat line would return in the indigo disk. Because I would of imagine that they are some pokemon fans who would want to use Crobat against Kieran. In the end I was disappointed that some of my favorite pokemon didn't return in the Scarlett and violet DLC. Some that I can name are Crobat, Naganadel, and Carracoasta. But most of the other pokemon that I like are in the DLC.

    • @joseruborio
      @joseruborio Před 2 měsíci +1

      Unfortunately, it didn't. Zubat and Crobat no longer become perfect attendance

    • @khil1210
      @khil1210 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@joseruborioyea I kinda miss always encountering a zubat every time I walked into a cave, hope next gen we will zubat because I actually want to use crobat 🥲

  • @johnlynch1353
    @johnlynch1353 Před 4 měsíci +29

    It feels weird that you count third games as counting towards their appearance, but you don’t count black and white two as counting towards you Unovan appearance. I know it would probably massively expand the list but it still feels weird.

    • @MaidenOfAir
      @MaidenOfAir Před 4 měsíci +2

      BW2 is a lot more different compared to BW1 than the usual third versions (or USUM) tend to be. Doesn't seem quite right to include those to me

    • @PercyPanleo
      @PercyPanleo Před 3 měsíci +2

      Third games are typically an expansion of the first two (basically, DLC) while BW2 are full on sequels.

  • @bachhongoc6461
    @bachhongoc6461 Před 4 měsíci +3

    This list is mind-blowing. Great vid.

  • @anthonytaliaferro6115
    @anthonytaliaferro6115 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Omg I've been waiting for you to make a video like this. Thank you ❤❤❤❤

  • @nathanlamberth7631
    @nathanlamberth7631 Před 4 měsíci +16

    Technically every Pokémon introduced in the latest game has appeared in every game since their debut

  • @BoltBlades12
    @BoltBlades12 Před 4 měsíci +7

    That’s why I used Magneton(currently a Magnezone) to do my Ribbon Master challenge, since it’s available in every generation.
    Including Pokémon XD, where I got it from.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Ah, that's smart! Keep a record of your achievements throughout the years...

  • @gtmartinez97
    @gtmartinez97 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Another great video! These were some fun pokemon facts. I'm glad psyduck beat pikachu in being in every game

  • @mariahs6
    @mariahs6 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I had a feeling going into the video that one of the Pokémon would be Psyduck, and I was happy to see that was correct! I’ve always had a soft spot for it, especially because of Misty’s Psyduck. I like it more than Golduck!

  • @crackball22
    @crackball22 Před 4 měsíci +10

    I just had this thought during the vid but a variant evo for swinub that turned into a big wooly rhino would be sick

  • @conorobrien6710
    @conorobrien6710 Před 4 měsíci +14

    Including BDSP was a mistake in my opinion as they aren’t a return to the region but specifically a return to the 4th generation removing every Pokémon post gen 4, similar to Let’s Go.
    But otherwise a fun video! Would love to see a sequel video showcasing the post gen 4 Pokémon that made the cut.

    • @MarS-267
      @MarS-267 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Excluding Let's GO and BDSP, the post Gen IV mons that have been in every game since their debut are Petilil, Rufflet, Sylveon, Rowlett, and Dartrix. Lilligant, Braviary, and Decidueye depend if you go by forms (which disqualifies them) or by species (which includes them)

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 Před 3 měsíci

      Those games absolutely count.

  • @Gronnwolf
    @Gronnwolf Před 4 měsíci +3

    Special shoutout to Scraggy, who appeared in every gen since its debut in gen 5. The only games it wasnt available in was Let's Go, BDSP, Legends Arceus, and Scarlet Violet pre-Indigo Disk.

  • @caetmoniza8907
    @caetmoniza8907 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Some of the things to point out here that wasn’t mentioned in this video.
    For Rhyhorn evolution line, while it is true that you need to go to White Forest from Pokémon White, or trade with Curtis/Yancy in Nimbassa City from Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, Rhyhorn isn’t obtainable in Scarlet and Violet, unless you have the Hidden Treasure of Area Zero.
    For Magnemite evolution line, it may be present in White Forest from Pokémon White, but you can’t catch it in Pokémon Sword and Shield, unless you have the expansion pass for Sword and Shield.
    For Psyduck & Golduck situation, like Magnemite evolution line, it’s absent in Sword and Shield, unless you have the expansion pass for Sword and Shield.
    I am only mentioning Kanto region Pokemon here, because it is the first region in the series

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 Před 3 měsíci

      He's including DLC anyway, I mean he said in in the video itself so this is kinda mute.

    • @caetmoniza8907
      @caetmoniza8907 Před 2 měsíci

      @@rossjones8656 not many people choose to add dlc for several reasons. Some people can still think DLC is not even required to catch those Pokemon and can still think they don’t need DLC in order to catch those Pokémon

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 Před 2 měsíci

      @@caetmoniza8907 you repeated yourself and the CZcams choice to include the DLC. Just because you and others don't choice to get the DLC doesn't change he did.

    • @caetmoniza8907
      @caetmoniza8907 Před 2 měsíci

      @@rossjones8656 no, here is where you repeated yourself. I am not changing what he did. He may have mentioned all of those DLCs, but he didn’t say that DLCs are required for each of the ones he mentioned. As I have already said earlier, you can’t catch those Pokémon without specific (a) DLC location(s) for each of them

  • @luxrayblast
    @luxrayblast Před 4 měsíci +4

    But, what about Colosseum & Gale Of Darkness? Colosseum was your ticket to getting ANY of the Johto Pokémon in Ruby & Sapphire. Not all of them, but, nearly 50. The only non-Johto Pokémon in Colosseum you can snag are: Vibrava, Absol, Tropius, Metagross, Makuhita, Meditite and Swablu. Duking even gives you a Plusle.
    Golduck, Rhydon and Magneton can even be obtained by snagging them on Citadark Isle in Gale Of Darkness; which has 83 Shadow Pokémon; one of which can be traded back to Hordel for his Elekid; the Togepi he asks you to purify and return to him.

  • @IzzyReal
    @IzzyReal Před 4 měsíci +4

    Honorable mention to every Pokemon introduced in Gen 9🎉🎉🎉

  • @gemmalow6515
    @gemmalow6515 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Awesome video yet again! Very interesting, I would be really interested in seeing the opposite of this video the Pokemon who are missing from the most games, if you haven't already done something like that

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 3 měsíci

      You're right, that could be cool to look into!

  • @cylasbreakdown6140
    @cylasbreakdown6140 Před 4 měsíci +3

    2:47 Holy crap, that’s my meme! I made that one! I recognize the formatting!

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Well it was a good one! Gets the idea across perfectly!

  • @OOB080
    @OOB080 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Rhydon and Golduck being always present might have something to do with the fact that they're Zir's and Conia's pokémon.

    • @RoyArkon
      @RoyArkon Před 4 měsíci +1

      I think it's the opposite actually, the fact that they both have Golduck and Rhydon is because they appear in every game. Great find still though.

  • @ParasocialCatgirl
    @ParasocialCatgirl Před 4 měsíci +8

    2:26 Technically incorrect. There *is* a Pikachu you can meet in BW.
    In Castelia City, in the same room as the Name Rater, you can meet a Hiker NPC along with Gesundheit, his Pikachu.
    Granted, as Gesundheit the Pikachu is an overworld NPC (and not an encounter), Pikachu will not be registered as 'seen' on your Pokédex.
    However, point is, Unova isn't completely devoid of Pikachu.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +3

      That may be, however by that logic Galarian Weezing is in Legends Arceus because of their smokestacks. I'm more focused on any Pokemon I could put in my box...

    • @ParasocialCatgirl
      @ParasocialCatgirl Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@emperorcuboneI see where you're coming from, but I have an issue with your counterexample.
      I'd argue that there is a noticeable distinction between 'a Pokémon which appears as a non-battleable but interactable overworld NPC' (such as Gesundheit) and 'a depiction of a Pokémon in the overworld' (such as the Galarian Weezing-shaped smokestacks in Hisui, or the Pikachu statue in Nimbasa City).
      In the former example, the Pokémon itself is right there, in the flesh, present in the location. One can say that they have met and interacted with a Pikachu in Unova, due to one being right there.
      In the latter example, the Pokémon itself isn't there. One may see some Galarian Weezing-shaped smokestacks in Hisui, but one can't say that one met a Galarian Weezing in Hisui, because there are no Galarian Weezings physically present. Likewise, the statue of Pikachu in Nimbasa City would not count as meeting a Pikachu - just like how seeing a statue of an animal somewhere IRL would not count as one actually seeing that animal there, in the flesh, in that place IRL.
      Sure, at the end of the day, you still can't battle Gesundheit, talking to Gesundheit won't register it to your pokédex, and you certainly can't capture Gesundheit.
      But I do still find it worth noting that, despite BW's main gimmick being the whole 'new mons only' thing, the developers still went out of their way to include a single non-Unovan NPC Pokémon, freely encounterable prior to unlocking the National Dex, and that Pokémon just _had_ to be a Pikachu, right there, in the flesh, in Unova.

  • @Mizu_Melon
    @Mizu_Melon Před 3 měsíci

    I'm glad to hear one of my favorite Pokemon (Magnemite) has perfect attendance! I knew they showed up in gen 5 because of a thing people would do in the games called "Magnemite Coiling"
    I'm very surprised that the Zubat line didn't make the cut though, I never even noticed that the line wasn't in gen 9 until you said it.

  • @eliasmolck5566
    @eliasmolck5566 Před 4 měsíci

    Magnemite is my favorite from the list. Also just one of my favorite Electric types (and one of my favorite Steel types). I love that funny little robot.

  • @Reir0o
    @Reir0o Před 4 měsíci +4

    Forgot zubat. They're always there, in the back of your mind.

  • @graduator14
    @graduator14 Před 4 měsíci +10

    With the power of modern consoles, and the amount of money that the Pokemon company produces, there is no excuse to exclude any Pokemon. Particularly Gen 1!

  • @valasafantastic1055
    @valasafantastic1055 Před 2 měsíci

    I didn’t realize for most of these but I knew about magikarp and psyduck. Interesting video. Also I agree with the criteria you decided for this definition. Although I may not have included BDSP as a qualifier but I still agree with your choice.

  • @kawaiijohn
    @kawaiijohn Před 4 měsíci

    i didnt even think i'd ever like magenmite's line until i had one in legends arceus and grew really attached to the guy. good to see its been around forever!

  • @CWG500SUBSWBC
    @CWG500SUBSWBC Před 4 měsíci +3

    It’s interesting to see how close the Shellder line was almost here. But alas they’re not in Hoenn or Legends Arceus. I swore they were. They’re even in Unova. But so far they’ve been in Galar and Paldea. They’ll most likely be in most games.

    • @TheBestEver1998
      @TheBestEver1998 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, I was checking Bulbapedia and it's only available in Fire Red in gen 3 and unobtainable in PLA.

  • @garg4531
    @garg4531 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Before watching I gotta say, this is something I thought about myself in the past and even looked up
    Lots of pokemon have appeared in every regional dex up until Unova, but Unova 2 or New Unova or whatever you want to call it did bring back *some* classics like zubat and psyduck, but not all (pikachu, geodude, zubat, goldeen, magikarp, etc.)
    Then I think it finally stopped for Galar (no zubat, for example)
    But can’t wait to see what pokemon made your list!

  • @AnAshenSpirit
    @AnAshenSpirit Před 4 měsíci +2

    you give off vibes of 2014 poketuber - in a good way

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Haha I didn't start until 2016, but thank you!

  • @lisapearson5324
    @lisapearson5324 Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's so cool how many gen 1 pokèmon make the list. Inc Lets Go games Psyduck/Golduck, Magnemite/Magnetron, Rhyhorn/Rhydon, Magikarp/Gyarados have been in every single game. I'm impressed.

  • @SonicMeters
    @SonicMeters Před 4 měsíci +3

    I Believe the wingull line has been in every game since it introduction

    • @Rarest26
      @Rarest26 Před 4 měsíci

      Firered/Leafgreen and Legends don’t have that line
      Had to edit cause Wingull IS in HGSS oops

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      If we're talking Gen 4 and on, yes they show up all the time; but since Ruby and Sapphire were first in Gen 3, that does mean FRLG were After, and shockingly Wingull is absent. But with those remakes they're in!

    • @TheBestEver1998
      @TheBestEver1998 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​​@@emperorcuboneIt's quite unfair to exclude every gen 3 mon because of Fire Red and Leaf Green because they exclude everything from Hoenn except Wynaut and Azurill. They are remakes of the original Japanese Red and Green after all.

    • @rowanjadon2664
      @rowanjadon2664 Před 2 měsíci

      Wingull was also absent in Legends Arceus.

  • @Drifblim066
    @Drifblim066 Před 4 měsíci +8

    If we didn’t include remakes or DLC there has been some gen 6 Pokemon to make an appearance on every game since their debut
    The Goomy line is a good example of this since it was in gen 6-9 and Goodra is the only pseudo legendary with a regional form I think

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Indeed it is the only regional pseudo legendary (so far at least) and I think it really needed it so it wasn't stuck as the "boring pure Dragon" one while all the others had something more...

    • @TheBestEver1998
      @TheBestEver1998 Před 4 měsíci

      Case of counting remakes or spin off as a cut for species is weird because it's still the same generation.

  • @Buzzblade146
    @Buzzblade146 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Iono is thrilled about the magnemite occurence

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 3 měsíci

      Initially I thought it was odd that she themed her outfit around those Pokemon, but apparently it makes sense!

    • @christianloder8127
      @christianloder8127 Před 3 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone It's weird that she never uses a member of that line.

  • @riccardomosena4162
    @riccardomosena4162 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Now we need a challenge playthrough using only these pokemon XD

  • @zachpro5475
    @zachpro5475 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I don’t think you should consider Bdsp as a requirement because only gen 1-4 mons were there

  • @Christis4real
    @Christis4real Před 4 měsíci +5

    Its obviously cubone guys 💀

  • @cyclopstxg725
    @cyclopstxg725 Před 4 měsíci +2

    U forgot about every new Paldea Pokémon…

  • @sparkgold3852
    @sparkgold3852 Před 4 měsíci +2

    the only reason Meowth wasn't on the list is because of PLA. I think it deserves an honorable mention as not only is it found everywhere otherwise but it even has the most regional forms!

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Don't forget it also got a Gigantamax form with its other regional form too!

    • @haospacman1084
      @haospacman1084 Před 4 měsíci

      Meowth isn’t in unova or kalos

  • @nickdentoom1173
    @nickdentoom1173 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I personally think you counting Legends Arceus is kinda unfair towards some Pokemon.
    Like, for example: Fletchling line has been in every game since introduction (Aside from remakes) except for Legends Arceus.
    The only reason the Kanto mons were in every game you mentioned, is because the Pokemon in the OG Sinnoh games and the remakes (Not counting the underground), also appear in Hisui by default. So that is why i feel like you cannot take Legends Arceus into account, especially since its BS the lines of Rufflet, Bergmite, Goomy aren't in the Original Sinnoh dex, while they technically should be, even if its not in those Hisui forms.

  • @tobiasgund8048
    @tobiasgund8048 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Are there any Pokemon from gen 5 onwards in BDSP?

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Před 4 měsíci +1

      No.

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@GoinGreninja Then I would have completely cut BDSP from the list

    • @samszczepanski2281
      @samszczepanski2281 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Yeah, if he cut let's go for that same reason reason...

    • @nickdentoom1173
      @nickdentoom1173 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@tobiasgund8048 True. Same for Legends Arceus. It makes no sense for Bergmite, Goomy and Rufflet lines not to be in the Sinnoh dex when they can appear naturally in the wild in Sinnoh. If you exclude BDSP and Legends Arceus, then more Pokemon are getting on this list as well.

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 Před 4 měsíci

      @@nickdentoom1173 I don't think its dex specific, so Legends Arceus would still count for me because it introduced Pokemon from later gens into a game set in Sinnoh/Hisui

  • @SoleilKay
    @SoleilKay Před 4 měsíci

    I love Psyduck so much and the little headache duck being in all games just made my day

  • @gaia9020
    @gaia9020 Před 3 měsíci

    I love Magmortar, espacially if its shiny!
    Nice to see it is there when I need it

  • @obits3
    @obits3 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Of course you can catch a Pikachu in Generation 5… you just have to use a Poké Bow and Arrow.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +8

      Well, that brings a LOT of others into it. But now I wish that had been a tool Legends Arceus to get better distance on throws!

  • @nickolasberrian9565
    @nickolasberrian9565 Před 4 měsíci +3

    You can technically say Pikachu wasn't in black and white but it was attainable via event/Transfer. So technically you was still able to get it but eh.

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl Před 3 měsíci +2

    They should retroactively make psyduck psycic.

  • @SuperBeastlyMario
    @SuperBeastlyMario Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wait was this video made in Powerpoint? Big props if so, massive Powerpoint fan here.

  • @Frokken
    @Frokken Před 4 měsíci +4

    Psyduck might be included in every game due to it being Masuda's favorite Pokemon. That or it just being a popular funny and cute Pokemon that appeals to any gender.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +2

      It probably is the former, but I don't think the latter is without influence either; the only reason Jigglypuff got into Smash was because it was popular in the anime, so that can carry a Pokemon a long way!

  • @chadcharest9891
    @chadcharest9891 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I haven't actually played a game since gen 4, and the fact that they didn't put Eevee in a generation was both a fact I was not aware of and something I will never forgive them for.

    • @TheFirstCurse1
      @TheFirstCurse1 Před 2 měsíci

      You really should get back into it. Gen V is godlike and Gens 6 and 7 are pretty good.

    • @chadcharest9891
      @chadcharest9891 Před 2 měsíci

      @thefirstcurse3123 I've played some stuff on 'totally official Nintendo hardware' here and there like Pathways and such. And Snap 2.
      Maybe one of these days I'll try a newer Gen.

    • @khil1210
      @khil1210 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@chadcharest9891I just want to give a little "spoiler" I guess if you don't know, Gen 6 is pretty easy but with amazing graphics

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Před 3 měsíci +1

    If BDSP didn't count, Lilligant and Petilil would actually make the list. They're Unova so that doesn't stop them, they're in X and Y's friend safari, ORAS's Mirage Forest, its an exclusive to both versions of Moon (and is where I found my first shiny one and shiny ever), it survived Dexit thanks to Isle of Armor, Lilligant got a new form in PLA, and they made it into Paldea's base game.
    Maybe this is just my bias, but counting remakes like BDSP that are just the original game content only is a massive bottleneck. ORAS had ways to get non-Hoenn pokemon, namely the Eon Flute islands like Mirage Forest, which allowed it to not be as big of a cutoff while BDSP being only DPP pokemon and earlier, not even giving new forms like PLA, makes it kinda rough.

  • @adraino7345
    @adraino7345 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I think it’s been a year and a half since I watched an Emp Cubone vid. Im suffering with food poisoning rn and maybe it’s just the agony and shame of said food poisoning but I swear I got some nostalgia tears welling up too.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Well I'm sorry to hear about the food poisoning, but I'm glad I could be there for you in your time of need!

  • @MaDDaWg650
    @MaDDaWg650 Před 2 měsíci

    I have included Psyduck/Golduck in every single one of my teams for all the games, from Pokemon Red all the way to Scarlet. They are my favourite Pokemon. Happy to hear Psyduck is Masuda's favourite, so I can always count on the confused little guy showing up in future titles!

  • @awesomelink2347
    @awesomelink2347 Před 2 měsíci

    2:50 I find this image hilarious now that every Pokémon in it is in just SV alone, obtainable without events. 2020 sure was a unique time to be a Pokémon fan.

  • @cerdgold225
    @cerdgold225 Před 4 měsíci +1

    It feels good to know that my favorite pokemon is in every game

  • @chrishansen5943
    @chrishansen5943 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video, been thinking about this myself for quite some time, and only could Think of psyduck

  • @unripetheberrby6283
    @unripetheberrby6283 Před 4 měsíci

    Bulbasaur!
    ed: Magnemite was my second choice lol. Interesting list! ;)

  • @jrbehr4643
    @jrbehr4643 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Why is Rhyperior given a sort of asterisk but not Electivire/Magmortar? They're all trade evos so technically you can't get them without outside help

  • @BrodisWorld
    @BrodisWorld Před 4 měsíci +1

    I have a shiny Psyduck named Blueberry. He's my baby but I'm going to have to go with out of that list? Hapiny! I love the Blissey line.

  • @BeetleDragon
    @BeetleDragon Před 4 měsíci +1

    I’m a bit surprised eevee wasn’t on this list! It’s everywhere!

  • @agentrikamcgee
    @agentrikamcgee Před 4 měsíci

    I haven't played the games in a long time, but I knew Psyduck would be on this list XD It's kinda interesting how they've been making Psyduck prominent across the franchise- it has a metric ton of merch, has starring roles in a lot of the shows/movies (ex. Misty's Psyduck for the anime, Lucy's in Detective Pikachu, Haru's in Pokemon Concierge), and as stated in this video, is present in every gen since it was introduced in the beginning. I guess being the favorite of Junichi Masuda helped it a lot, but I think a lot of people would miss the derpy lil duckie if it went amiss for even a gen.
    And as a Psyduck lover, I'm here for all of it lmao

  • @SuperWiggler
    @SuperWiggler Před 4 měsíci +1

    You can get three different Pikachu as a downloadable event Pokemon in Black/White/Black 2/White 2, meaning Pikachu is technically in the Unova games. Also, Magnezone is in HGSS, you just trade Magneton to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, evolve it at Mt Coronet and then trade back.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Yeeeah... no. If you booted up Black or White today those "events" would not be accessible. If it's not in the code of the base game it doesn't count on the list.

    • @SuperWiggler
      @SuperWiggler Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@emperorcubone You can get them until April actually. I know, I got them last week. Also, I take Magnezone is fine, since you didn't mention it?

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      "Evolve it in a different game" doesn't exactly sound like a way to obtain that Pokemon IN HGSS. If you only had a copy of those you'd be stuck without Magnezone, so I'm afraid not...

  • @jesusvice6664
    @jesusvice6664 Před 2 měsíci +1

    love the videos but... are you making these in powerpoint????

  • @LuigiTheMetal64
    @LuigiTheMetal64 Před 4 měsíci

    I do use Neitio/Xatu or Sa-naito/Gardevoir depending on the region where they are available. They are good Synchro users when having any neutral Nature.

  • @arch3223
    @arch3223 Před 3 měsíci

    Magikarp is a metaphor for life. When you first start something new. You are going to suck at it, but if you try and try and try, you can become a Gyarados.
    Magikarp is my favorite Pokemon. I'm glad his example is in every game.

  • @Fla.C.
    @Fla.C. Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you so much i’ve asked myself this so many times but i’m too lazy to ceck every single pokedex

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      It took much longer than I'd care to admit, but I think it was worth it!

  • @Manectrix2000
    @Manectrix2000 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Psyduck thing reminds me that I found a shiny while going through my Esketamine treatment for my anxiety. I barely noticed, in my own confusion, that it was a shiny! I wouldn’t have gotten it if I hadn’t decided to randomly check the Psyduck outbreak.

    • @ZombifiedBuizel
      @ZombifiedBuizel Před 3 měsíci

      That happened to me in Sword with a Skorupi. I was trying to get two Galarian Farfetch'd for my best friend and I since it was exclusive to Sword. It took me a few hours because they kept using Final Gambit which makes them faint instantly. Well I caught mine and was trying to get his when I got jumped by a Skorupi in the grass. Now it was late at night and I wasn't fully there because I was sleepy. I hadn't noticed right away that it was shiny. I looked at it for about a minute thinking it looked weird. I was like "Aren't they purple? Pretty sure Drapion is pink." It suddenly clicked that it was a shiny. I caught it and it was my first legit shiny. Legit as in not event or scripted. I do not count Sudowoodo in Coliseum because when I snagged it from the trainer it wasn't shiny. When I looked at it in my box it was shiny. I know it wasn't just the shadow effects playing with me because I know what a shiny Sudowoodo looks like.

  • @riley-.-
    @riley-.- Před 4 měsíci

    I’ve been able to bring my shiny Sneasel all the way from the GameCube on Pokémon Colosseum up to Scarlet/Violet, getting every ribbon obtainable along the way.
    It was always crazy to me how my favorite Pokémon couldn’t be caught in any of the main gen 3 games until leaf green and colosseum.
    Some people hated the way gamefreak split up the nation dex between 7 games in gen 3, but I always thought it was cool being in school and chatting with my friends about how I would trade them my ho oh from colosseum for their Lucia from XD, so that I could finish my dex in saphirre

  • @dunkcity2116
    @dunkcity2116 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The amount of times I wanted to do emerald runs with Medicham and couldn’t was wild

  • @wingedbluj1674
    @wingedbluj1674 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I'm a little disappointed that the Ralts line weren't on the list. I had to double check which games they weren't in.
    It's Sun/Moon, they show up in USUM, but not naturally in SM. Other than that, they're pretty spot on in attendance.

  • @domidoodleYT
    @domidoodleYT Před 4 měsíci +1

    Interesting! Literally didn’t know any of these lol

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Right? It's just not something you think about...

  • @Joey15811
    @Joey15811 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Pikachu
    Psyduck
    Magimarp
    Meowth
    Gible
    Ralts
    Shoukd be rested for a region
    Lets see Skitty, Glameow (who is still only in sinnoh main game!), Burmy and shinx appear in more regions

  • @PeterLiuIsBeast
    @PeterLiuIsBeast Před 2 měsíci

    The salesman is not the only way to obtain Magikarp in the Unova games. While no wild Magikarp appear in Black and White, in Black 2 and White 2, the Nature Preserve (which is reach via the Mistralton City plane) is outside Unova but allows the capture of Magikarp and Gyarados at levels 1 up to 100.

  • @iamSpenceGarcia
    @iamSpenceGarcia Před 4 měsíci

    Now I wonder if this applies to bringing along the same individual Pokémon through each generation, or does the list expand or shrink? I would love to start a playthrough journey with one or more Pokémon earning every single champion badge.

  • @ironmuro
    @ironmuro Před měsícem

    Regardless of region, regardless of version, regardless of generation there is always Magikarp. If we count Let's Go, count alternate versions as additional cuts, and say "every game" to say it has to be a gen 1 Pokemon. Magikarp and Gyarados are the only ones to be obtainable in EVERY SINGLE (main series) GAME (Gyarados is my 2nd favorite pokemon so I am completely fine with this.)
    I only played Black Version growing up, I didn't know White Version could add others to the list if we are talking about each generation.

  • @Nok56
    @Nok56 Před 4 měsíci +2

    The Drifloon line only missed out on HgSs. So they are near perfect. (I know it's exclusive to Scarlet...)

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Fun fact; you can still trade over Pokemon that AREN'T in the HGSS Dex and use them from the very beginning! I did this with a Drifloon I hatched on Diamond and used in from as early as possible. It was so fun to have in Johto!

  • @AJadedLizard
    @AJadedLizard Před 3 měsíci

    I've always loved that Scyther, my favorite Pokemon, can be found in the wild in every region except Hoenn (coincidentally my favorite region).

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 3 měsíci

      Oh, clash of the favorites! Scyther and Hoenn are both definitely solid choices!