Which Pokémon Game is Best for a Mono-Type Fire Team?
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
- Out of the starter types, Fire definitely has it the worst with a mix of being hard to find in most games, while also having many weaknesses early on! However that doesn't mean Fire should be counted out because there are some regions where Fire works rather well , and maybe even Better than Grass or Water? So let's see where the Fire types function as an all-consuming inferno, and where they burn out too soon!
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A mono fire team? Obviously Diamond and Pearl!
:( fire enjoyers were starving in 2007
Ba dum tss
Steamrolling the whole game with that grand total of 2 fire types, as the devs intended
Yup! Flint had so many options! XD
A team of two Pokemon
But Sinnoh has such fire types as Steelix, Drifblim and Lopunny....
I love that Fire Drifblim was basically what they used to reveal Terastallizing!
If you made a team of nothing but psuedo dragons like gyardos and charizard and called it a dragon type team, it would still be more believable to me than Flint's team being called a fire team.
This was fun. I can't believe Gen II put Slugma and Houndour on the Kanto side of the map. Such an odd move.
Not JUST Fire either, with Murkrow and others being only there too!
@@emperorcubone makes me glad I was 9 at the time, so I didn't realize what a mess the games kinda were.
At least you can get a slugma egg very early in HGSS
@@BruceBoyde yeah same. My first pokemon game was Crystal when I was 7
Fire and dark are my two favorite types, but the fact that two johto pokemon, both being my favorite types and some of my favorite johto pokemon, are locked in the kanto post-game (even in the remakes), was always weird and kind of frustrating to me 😂😢
In Crystal you could get growlithe outside violet city by sudowoodo tree at level 6, always picked him up as he’s such a good boy
BW2 you can get growlithe in the Virbank Complex as well, then eevee in the Garden and with Darumaka you can have 5 members before the 3rd gym
And in B2 u can get Camerupt at Reversal Mountain
You can even get Volcarona at an cave near PWT in Driftveil City. Which is in the mid point of the game.
Isle of Armor you also can get Torkoal and Larvesta decently early (You can actually get both before gym 2).
Actually, you will miss out on Mega Houndoom in X, because funny thing is that the Houndoomite is excluisve to Y, while the Manectite is exclusive to X, despite Manectric being a Y exclusive.
Why would they do that? That's just cruel!
Trade, that's why.
@@Fighting.Flower Yup. Its the same with the Pinsirite and Heracrossite as well.
Mono fire type run in Hisui. I wanted to be different from everyone saying Sinnoh😅
Most trainers might not know the Fire type exists there! You'd be like a rare Dragon trainer in Gen 1.
I like Black and White 2
Emboar (starter)
Magmortar (Virbank Complex)
Arcanine (Virbank Complex)
Flareon (Castelia City)
Volcarona (Relic Castle)
Chandelure (Celestial Tower)
if you have the Dream, Radar, you can get a Fire Stone ASAP instead of waiting for the Desert Resort and Battle Subway.
For White 2 users, you can sub Magmortar for Darmanitan. Plus the Life Orb can be found in the Battle Subway for 24 BP, unlike 48 in Black and White or the Dream Radar.
Another thing is if you have Heart Gold as well, you can use Ho-Oh in your run, and it's a very low level!
I think this series should be called “why do GF insist on locking new pokemon in the post-game?”
Why do they though? It's so frustrating..
Thanks for proving my point that fire might be the most disrespected type. Definitely of the starter trio
It definitely is for sure!
@emperorcubone if I still have your attention, I would love a video exploring the possibility of "theme gyms" instead of our normal type gym setup. Example a Cat type gym leader, monkey (don't make them black) or wrestling. I think it would be a cool way to mix things up. Even more if you gave every leader 8 pokemon and the game randomly matched them based on the number of badges you have. This would mean that you can challenge them in any order, and potentially make early leaders feel harder to plan for than late ones.
nah bro, it's Grass 100% the disrespected one, it literally has the most amount of weaknesses of any type, and even then they gave Fire more advantages in it's offenses than they gave to Grass
Glad this series is continuing!
Personally really excited for the rock type, as I want to do a mono-rock type run in the future!
Edit: I also picked the fire starter for the first time in gen 9!
Fuecoco is just that good!
@@emperorcubone I wonder if gen 10 will continue our new trend
In Crystal, you can get Growlithe before the first gym
I'm something of a Fire Type Specialist myself 😏
Correction on the Y thing, saying you can use Mega Houndoom. The houndoomite is not in the same game. I know because I had Y when it came out, my best friend had X and he was happy he could use a Houndoom, his favorite Pokemon, but I had to trade my Houndoomite over to him so he could use the new form. Guess what he did to that save file that makes me remember this?
I'm glad you're doing this again. Fire's a tough one. My pre -watch guess is Paldea. Edit: Yup, Skelelidirge is just too broken. It nearly solos the first two and last three gyms.
You actually have to go into celestial tower before the 6th gym in Black & White and you can enter the Virbank Complex before the 2nd gym
I’d go with hoenn personally. I think it favors fire in a big way. TECHNICALLY galar and paldea are the best but I consider those copout answers due to the decision fatigue you’ll suffer with too many meaningless choices.
But this is a really really fun idea to replay hoenn, so thanks for the idea. I’ll credit you in my social circles. Good day.
Since the beginning of the video i am predicting Paldea
The volcano in ultra moon always had Fletchling as well, but if you already had charmander there wouldn't be much point to getting that.
You can catch fletching on the first island in the alola games already
YESS NEW VIDEO SERIES IDEASSS can’t wait to see what the rest of the types will be!
It might be a little more spread out than other series, since I don't want to commit to the same thing once a month for 18 months in a row, but I will get to them all eventually...
totally understandable!! i’m always excited about ur video ideas so whatever you do im sure it’ll be great ☺️
Kalos is actually really good tbh for Fire type only. Already did it myself. Only problem is all the surfing parts, but that's where the free Lapras came in for me. It never battled, but was just used for Surf and Waterfall.
love the vid but...can you PLEASE UP YOUR VOLUME. The commercials are YELLING when we have to up the volume so high to hear. sorry. No other issues. Great video! thank you!!!
platinum, obviously
I actually did Y for a Fire Mono. Delphox was MVP of the run when she swept both Lysandre and Diantha. The rest of the team was also great. Pyroar had great synergy with Delphox, Charizard can Mega Evolve and set up Sun, Flareon was the only Physical Attacker and got Flare Blitz reasonable early, Chandelure has 145 Sp Atk to abuse, and Rotom Heat covered Water Types. I was saving Talonflame for the Flying run.
I actually never used Delphox when I chose Fennekin because I wanted to challenge myself and only use Braixen as unevolved. Still useful though!
Just the perfect video before bedtime!
Excellent! Sleep tight!
1:04 except let’s go
Well, you still get all the Kanto starters there anyway. Plus Eevee can learn a signature Fire move!
In Red and Blue Growlithe and Vulpix are on routes 7 and 8 right before Celedon and access to fire stones.
I can see how the Vulpix at the game corner in Yellow and easy access to Flareon in Celedon would be overlooked.
Ponyta evolves so late because you find it so late in Kanto. I’m pretty sure it is the last evolving Fire type you can catch in those games since Magmortar didn’t exist until Gen 4.
Hopefully you do the Bug type after Water, since Bug type runs are usually pretty interesting due to the mixed quality of Bug types.
I always thought Kalos was begging you to do a fire-type run. Obviously you can have 5 of them before gym 2, and once you get through there, you just steamroll the rest of the game up till Siebold in the Elite 4. Delphox being quite fast helps a lot, teach her enough coverage moves and usually she goes first, then it doesn't matter if the opponent is super-effective!
I've never tried it for X and Y, but maybe I should! It sounds fun.
My original Ruby run was basically a Blaziken solo run already, since I was a kid and didn't think about team composition beyond flaming hot chicken = cool 😂
I love doing a Poison run in FRLG. You don't have to worry about getting poisoned yourself and there are so many mon to pick from since Poison type is almost 1/3rd of the Dex . Plus I love ghost type and that way Haunter (no trade for Gengar sadness ) will always be on my team.
Oh nice, I was getting concerned until you got to Paldea that NO region was going to be good for Fire. I was thinking about what region would be good for Fire types ever since your Grass video. Because I was thinking Hoenn because of Blaziken, Magcargo, Torkoal, Camerupt, and Ninetales...but then I realized that's it.
Right? So many of them start strong and fizzle out, or the opposite and there's nothing until the end of the game...
@@emperorcubone Yeah it’s a shame because I wanted to try a Fire team, I guess I can in Paldea or maybe Kalos. Water would definitely be much easier. Are you going to do the other types too? I know you like Ground types, so that would be cool to see a video on that.
Thank you, on behalf of fire type lovers, for validating our struggle to actually play our type. Grass may be full of a lot of weak and underwhelming pokemom and Water may be full of basically-a-fish mons but at least those pokemon *exist* in the first place. There has never been a pokemon game where I worried that if I didnt take the grass or water starter I'd be short on choices after. For fire types thats true of almost every game. Water lovers worry about getting another 'basically a fish' and grass lovers worry about getting another 'basically a flower' but fire lovers worry about getting 'basically anything after the starter'.
Edit: A comment elsewhere has me wondering what the most unfortunate pokemon in the whole series is. Not weakest or unpopular, or forgotten. By unfortunate I mean things like: has physical stats but few physical moves, how hard to find, fewest appearances through out the series, bad typing for its stats (aka bulky but ice rock), that sort of thing. The one that most makes you go "wow gamefreak must really hate that pokemon". I think it might be Aurorus.
Sadly Aurorus is pretty unfortunate, because I love the thing! If only the people in charge felt the same...
@@emperorcubone You can really tell Aurorus has it pretty bad because I genuinely thought it would be much MUCH harder to pick a winner, I thought it would take literal hours of comparing wiki pages. It took like 15 minutes. At least 5 of those minutes were me marveling at just how unfortunate Aurorus is. The ONE thing it could have had going for it was its looks, and then they paired it up with Tyrantrum so it even lost, in its own game, at literally the ONLY thing it does well.
Hey Cubone, I notice you’ve come up a lot in Thor Skywalker videos. I was wondering if you, since it seems you’re passionate about Star Wars, if you’d ever do a video relating it to Pokemon. Like using bad batch as a recent example, maybe a video about what teams the different members of the bad batch might have?
I dunno, I’m spitballing here but think maybe there’s a good idea in there somewhere
I actually did do that right before Rise of Skywalker came out! I was quite proud of it, even if it didn't do all that well. You can find it in the Pop Culture Clash Playlist! (And I really do love Star Wars!)
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@@emperorcubone I’ll check it out man!
I tend to choose the fire type starter, but never tried to complete a game using only fire or any other type.
Availability issues are why i only do mono type runs in randomizers
I’ve done a fire only nuzlocke in white 2. It was tricky at times but very doable and loads of fun. Would definitely recommend BW2 for a fire run.
There is a Chmichar quest in Legends quite early on as far as I recall
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I’ve never really used Fire type Pokémon as much as some others. Maybe because of how late they push them sometimes, so by then I already have a team I like using. It’s a shame since I quite like Houndour, but I had to trade with my brother to obtain one for my Soul Silver team. I certainly agree that Paldea has been the best for the Fire type, though. I had always wanted to use Camerupt, I just didn’t want the pain of its home region. So I had my chance here and Barbara(her name) certainly never disappointed. Especially since I fell into the Solid Rock ability. I had done no research so I could go in blind, as I prefer to play the game at first.
Sorry for making a short story here. Trust me, this is actually shortened!
While everyone is saying dp is the worst with 2 team members as options, i'd just like to say that fire manages to get outclassed by flying in r/b/y even without mentioning Dragonite. Consider this, no steel types cause this was before magnemite and magneton got that type change. And while fire can hit ice super effectively, most of the ice types in gen 1 are part water type. The exceptions being Jynx, which you only fight once as lorelei has it, and Articuno, which is a legendary that is optional. Like the rest of the legendaries.
For bug and grass, flying is also super effective against them. and you get more flying type options earlier as well as not having to wait until the endgame to get a move like flamethrower for most of the team as it wasn't a tm in r/b/y. And Rapidash couldn't even learn flamethrower in gen 1.
Excellent point; and there are many more Flying types that can be found much earlier too!
@@emperorcubone You could a full team of flying types in kanto before the 3rd gym. Granted either half or a third of the team would be part normal but its still better than waiting until route 8 for a version exclusive fire type.
I've been doing a bunch of mono runs lately, I had been planning to do fire in Black but you've made me reassess. I think I'll do fire in X instead.
I'm trying not to reuse any specific games (like, have done sword already but will still do shield later), and I did my scarlet fighting run last month. I want to use violet for Dark so Paldea is out, but Kalos seems receptive to it. Will absolutely need that heat Rotom tho or Siebold gyarados gonna destroy me
That's a fun challenge! I should try something like that sometime... Which game did you use for Ground?
I find it more fun when you use a ftagile type ,like the rock or ice type. It gave you an extra challenge
Type variety is the key to patch any hole in your team
@@emperorcubone Have not yet done ground. So far I've done Bug, Grass, Fighting, Water, Poison, Psychic, Fairy, and Normal. I think I'll probably do Ground in Sinnoh though, I already tend to use both Torterra and Gastrodon in runs, adding in a Garchomp and a couple others wouldn't be too bad imo
(And in case you're interested I did Bug in Sword, Grass in Alpha Sapphire, Fighting in Scarlet, Water in Arceus, Poison in Leaf Green, Psychic in Crystal, Fairy in Sun, and Normal in Let's Go Eevee)
Currently running a monotype water team in kalos and having a blast. Im using greninja, azumarill, lanturn, lapras, swanna and mega blastoise
In HeartGold and SoulSilver, Houndour was made available in the Safari zone, so the only fire type you cant catch is Slugma.
Slugma can be hatched as a egg in the very early game in heartgold and soulsilver.
You can get a slugma egg before the 1 gym in heartgold and sousilver in one of the pokecenters
If you wanna run back and forth for half an hour that's fine too I guess, but Cyndaquil can handle Faulkner easily enough...
Rhyme's Sister is Paldea's Rock Specialist. Also you forgot the Giant Klawf.
You don't get a badge for fighting her so I don't count it. I did show Mulitple pictures of the Klawf, but it doesn't count as a trainer...
SwSh. You can get Ho-oh,Blacephalon,Reshiram and Heatran super early if you have DLC.
Then there's Scorbunny.
Kabu's gym gives you Litwick,Sizzlepede and Rolycoly.
Also Leon isn't a threat. Coalossal has Stealth Rocks via Level Up.
Kalos was really a breeze as my first monotype run but I see why it was 2nd place here
So I don’t know for sure, but when you eventually get to Dragon monotype team I think Kalos is actually one of the best regions to do that. I mean, yes you won’t have any for the first gym and charzard X would be considered cheating. But you do get a lot of dragons or eventual dragons before the 2nd gym with some work which you wouldn’t for most games, although the two most recent gens could be other options.
As for Water, again not sure this would be top, but one of the best regions for water according to other videos I have seen was Sinnoh. I mean you can get piplup, magikarp, and psyduck before the first gym. Then you can buizel and shellos before the second gym, which would be the most difficult but you already have gyrados and prinplup would have at least a flying type move so those two would at least get you through.
Meanwhile, the newest generations actually feel much more limited in water types these days because you have to wait for surf to get most options now that they got rid of fishing altogether.
I would love to see the discussion between the GameFreak devs during gen 4 development about Flint the fire elite four.
Boss: ok so we're choosing to go with a fire elite four member called Flint
employee: hey boss I got a question.
Boss: yeah?
employee: We only have chimchar as the starter and ponyta as an available fire pokemon in the region, shouldn't we add more if we're gonna make a fire elite four member?
Boss:..........So we're going with an fire elite four member called Flint.
Right? It wouldn't have been too hard to just change it to a Dark type user or something...
With how crappy GameFreak can be, I don't think it's a stretch to suspect that Flint is *why* they added Ponyta, that they got to Flint and realized they had literally nothing but Infernape to give him.
I disagree on your Black 2 & White 2 segment. You can also get Growlithe at Virbank Complex. Theres also an Eevee in Castelia Park that you to catch and evolved it into Flareon. Theres Numel & Camerupt in Reversal Mountain. Theres an Vulpix you can get in an area where you visited the shrine where Landorus had it's backstory. Heatran can be found at Reversal Mountain by getting the Magma Stone. But that's only in post game content. And if we wonna count Rotom for the Dream Radar, than go ahead. Besides the additional ones, you still got old ones returning. Darumaka is still in Route 4 and you can capture it before facing Burgh. Litwick is still found in Celestial Tower and you can get it before facing Skyla. Heatmor is still in late game. You can even get Volcarona at mid point in an cave near PWT at Driftveil City where you explore parts of Relic Castle and capture it. The only Fire type mon that's hard to get is Pansear cause it's only found in postgame. But even than, there's still better options. And there is an Fire Stone you can get at one of the desert ruins in Route 4 and another one in Lentamis Town. So yeah. Your clearly wrong about getting Fire types in Black 2 & White 2 not being any better.
6:30 *second gym
6:32 what about the growlithe in virbank complex?
Infernape is all you need to sweep a DPP game
BDSP it get Thunder Punch too.
which is why i just breed a team when i want a mono chllange
I do that! Except it's not usually montype teams; the only one was all Flying types in HGSS. I had Gligar, Hoppip, Scyther, Drifloon, Mantyke and Skarmory!
Sinnoh! Why is this even a debate
I would like to see what regions are best for either a monotype water team or monotype steel team
Well Water is next for sure! Not sure when Steel might show up though...
The answer for water is "Yes, except Yellow", and for Steel its Sword. Though Shield, all of Alola, X and Y, and DPPL (and BDSP by extension) are great options as well.
You do need an off type HM slave for X and Y though, as Surf and Fly (though you can substitute Teleport, not that it matters) are required HMs and no steel types that learn them are available before you need them.
Do you play rom hacks? I like crystal legacy fixes the fire encounter problems
Gamefreak: "Lets actively make certain pokemon virtually impossible to ever have for a playthrough without trading/breeding/hacking/headbutting 50 milliion trees/mastering time and space to teleport yourself to a specific location on a specific date in the past."
Pokemon Players: "Screw that lets play romhacks"
Gamefreak: *surprised Pikachu face*
Fire types are discriminated agsinst in most gsmes somehow. Like it is "hard mode"
Im just going to mention you were completely wron on the black and white 2 games
There are 12 different fire type lines in the unova dex in black 2
1 is a mythical victini so we take that out
1 is post game, the fire monkey
That still leaves us with 10 different fire type Pokemon in black 2 and white 2
Magby is exclusive to black 2 and reshiram is exclusive to white 2
In black 2 and white 2 you can get
Tepig (starter)
Growlithe (before gym 2)
Magby (before gym 2 in black 2)
Darumaka (before gym 3)
Flareon (before gym 4)
Volcarona (right after gym 5 al lvl 35)
Litwick (before gym 6)
Numel (right after gym 6)
Then heatmor, vulpix and reshiram is all before the E4
Thats a full team of 6 before the 6th gym, in white 2 you even get a legendary Pokemon before you take on the Champion
Yeah. I agree. I'm shocked when he says Black 2 & White 2 doesn't get any better at Fire types because B2W2 has an really good amount of Fire types you can get in that game.
You can do this with flying ones ?
Honestly I'm half excited/half dreading Flying because it's easily one of the most versatile types, and also happens to be everywhere! So I imagine that one will be hardest...
@@emperorcubone i started a mono flying run in Heart Gold with limitation in 515 max statistics in poke. To be honest, in Johto, apart from Whitney, Chuck and the ice gym leader, there are no strong enemies with super-effective movements.Whitney was easy, Chuck was very difficult, and my save was reset
I agree paldea is the best region to do a fire run
Aww yeah let's go
I’m re-playing Pokemon Black 2 and I have a Growlithe on my team. And I literally can’t find a Fire Stone. I mean I tried getting one to trade for 3 BP in the little tournament, but I kept losing every time.
Sorry to hear that! And it's not even the only Fire Stone evolution in Unova so you'd need more than one!
I just found a Fire Stone in the Seaside Cave
Definitely Pokémon go
I mean... you're not wrong. I got so many Slugmas I don't even want...
@@emperorcubone you can get so many Pokémon, and just wait for sunny weather to get plenty of fire types
Sinnoh also has Arceus (only in BDSP and only with an item and only in postgame 🙄)
I find it funny how fire type bcame such a great offense but also a great def. the most balance of the type
The most RPG the fire type will be similar to ice type., glass canon.
It's true! I didn't even mention that the newer games are even better for Fire because they resist Steel and Fairy now too!
i think calling the Mono type teams is a bit misleading. when you say mono type i assume using only mono fire types so there is no STAB coverage at all.
Your powerpoints are interesting but I really have to set the speed to 1.75x because you speak super slow.
Honen
I wouldn't really consider Terastalizing to get a different Pokemon for your monotype team cheating. I mean, are we going to consider 7 out of 8 of the gym leaders cheaters?
I mean, we've seen plenty of gym leaders cheat over the years with illegal Pokemon below their evolution level, so why not?
@@emperorcubone I guess, but this is something the player can reasonably recreate themselves.
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