How Fastbond Can a Fastbond Bond If A Fastbond Bonded Fast | Vintage Cube Draft
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Oracle of Mul Daya is that gf you don't wanna break up with cause you love their family
That is both oddly specific and extremely accurate at the same time.
😂😂😂
Lol "gf"
That is not a real thing
A gf? No, they are real. Sometimes they turn into wives if you’re unfortunate enough
8:08 "and maybe wewewewloznorm"
Classic LSV commentary, this is what keeps us coming back
rofl.
Sadly, we didn't wewlzornorm :(
The most powerful planeswalkers a dog and a hamster.
And then a guy with nice abs
And a fun little bug that lives in a skeleton!
All three-letter & one syllable at the top of the planeswalker pyramid:
Boo, Dog, and Oko.
Narset and t3feri prob next
I like how lsv is uncertain which Heisenberg it is. I hope this observation doesn't affect the outcome.
That M1G2 Comet was just absolutely ridiculous lol
Horrible card to watch. Dont think its good for the cube at all. It was literally a 4 mana deal 16 with no work. So stupid.
@@rezzytheskyguy Agreed, Un cards have no place and shouldn't be in the cube irrespective of the black border.
I've been thinking of adding it to my cube on power level, but seeing a 4 mana, roll some dice, deal 16 has me re thinking.
Randomness is inherent to a game of magic, but Comet’s randomness feels far more “ok so we’re just at a roulette table now” than other cards do.
@@rezzytheskyguywait until you hear about ancestral recall
Comet four mana deal 14
Very normal card.
Second time Luis has been super ahead and just straight up died to a comet lol
Yea I cut comet from the cube for just that reason. You play it and flip a coin; heads you win, tails it does nothing and you lose. Not super interesting gameplay.
Comet is interesting because it has the upside potential of very high variance cards, but not really any lows. Worst case, it’s a 4 mana planeswalker that gives u about a card of value each turn, most of that value helps protect it too (the creatures and damage). But occasionally you get crazy double or triple rolls, or just doubles on a few turns and it goes crazy!
As a Gitrog Monster enjoyer I felt so excited to see you put it in your deck and equally devastated when you proceeded to never draw it 😅
Haha look at me I'm so quirky and unique I enjoy playing one of the most popular commanders of all time
Comet, Stellar Pup is such a cursed card. Really makes you wonder why you’d put Oracle in your deck when you could spend 4 mana on Minsc and Boo or Comet or sheoldred or whatever 😢
Is there an argument for removing it from the cube just for play pattern reasons?
@@subtleknife1yes
Classic Fastbond deck doing classic Fastbond deck things (which is to say, not drawing Fastbond)
I feel like it's been a long time since I've seen a dedicated Fastbond deck work well for LSV.
When was the last time it worked out for him?
I just find it funny that like 80% of the times he has fastbond, he also has exploration, and that he often draws both in same game, along with the usual variance involved with them, like drawing Them late or without extra lands.😂
@@stevenashley27 I think I remember drafts from the summer having strong Fast bond plays, especially with Upheaval. But that's been quite a while lol
I feel like Fastbond is such a trap. It's so easy to dream of the Fastbond - 3 Land - Timetwister openers, but so many of the games you either don't even draw it or get the good old fastbond 1-2 lander where it does basically nothing
Even the mid case of playing a 3-4 drop on turn 1 or 2 still requires like 6 or 7 specific cards in your opener, and if they answer it you're playing off the top in a deck that's intentionally land heavy
martell always forcing tinker/fury/thopter/sword/reanimate/faithless looting/persist with minsk & boo and strip mine. its like jesus let somebody else get it once in a while.
Thanks to these videos, I was one of the first 15 people to trophy in the mtgo vintage cube league yesterday!
Wait it’s back online!
@@ultimateo621 As of yesterday! It’s back for 2 weeks
Awesome, good job! What deck got you there?
@@SpaccaspecchiRed aggro with a lotus, so how much skill was it really haha
I also had a 2-1 academy splashing forth eorlingas and fable deck that was much more of a “LSV says this card is good” deck where I felt like a genius drafting, but I couldn’t quite get there match 3
Between this video and Bosh N Roll's vid yesterday, we really saw the good and bad of Plow Under. It either ended the game on the spot, got boarded out, or clunked up the hand on both vids.
Please replace Elvish Mystic with Fyndhorn Elves for old border/art value
5:35 "setting the stage"you really got me with that one ! 😮💨
Mountain was the strongest card in your deck, by evidence that you vamped for it more than any other card
hierarch vs sylvan library when you already have fastbond is an interesting decision.
the hierarch is worse than a land if you've got fastbond out. but library cost is awkward if you are already paying lots of life with fastbond...
knowing that you get exploration later makes the library the better pick, but not knowing that, its tricky.
I think fastbond decks always need something else going on to compete with other vintage cube decks. so I think speculating on the portal over awould have been good, even if the tinker didn't come up.
also i think speculating on the thopter foundry over an elvish mystic would be way better.
that zuran orb in a pack with library of alexander, brutal that it didn't wheel. I know team draft points towards taking library. but orb makes the deck so much better if you get ranumap or cruicible that i think it would potentially help the team even more to lock in having it.
what a fun tough draft.
Comet has zero chill. Dear lord.
Quality title game on point.
I subscribed to you today, should have some time ago. I watch your vintage drafts and I don’t even play vintage. I just like listening to how you evaluate cards and give insights. You have to be at the top of the list in the “best draft player” argument in my opinion. ❤
Don't know how you keep coming up with these titles, but this one is a gem
Shed a tear for Oracle. I wonder how you'd up the power with that concept - make it a 3/3? As-is, but make it 3 mana?
Though I think I know how wizards would boost it. If it's your second main phase, and you've cast three or more spells with a vowel in their name, and your opponent has less than 24.5 life, you can turn your deck upside down and play lands from the bottom of your deck. It would also be a 4/5 hexproof for 3 - Wizards, hire me.
I like that LSV knows Sandy will be WR while Sandy knows LSV will be UG. I know neither is 100% but this feels like this UG 1-2 trend has lasted long enough it doesn't feel luck based anymore. I guess someone in the cube needs to take the green cards. All that said, thanks for the content.
You got Heisenberg from Breaking Bad to play?!?! You brought him back to life, taught him Mtg and playing at a top level. You sir surely are an amazing Wizard
This was the best title ever! XD
One of my favorite things to do in my Elf-ball deck is to make 13 mana, cast Plow Under, cast Eternal Witness for Plow Under, cast Plow Under. 😂
Best video title yet!
Inb4 "alrighty"
Update: All is right in the world
Yay new cube video
Can we not just get rid of that stupid Comet thing? (...and just ban that whole set when we're at it)
1st W was pretty sweeeet ✊🏾
8:45 is it crazy to pick the surveil land over savannah? ofc actual duals are cool but a surveil land to fetch with 2 fetches already picked up seems like a great option to have
I figured the Ramunap getting taken in the first pack was a sign someone else opened Strip Mine. But now I’m confused by the Zuran Orb going because he didn’t take it?
Is this discord invite only or is there a link? I’ve wanted to get together some arena based cube drafts together and it seems like that server is the most populated for that type of thing.
Chaos of Kass Adventurer
That Comet!
I think the problem with Sharp-Eyed Rookie is that fair Aggro starts (and Artifaggro?) aren't really well supported in your cube. But I think the archetype is super cool and has some merit. It gives some nice depth to GW and GU. I think the cube is lacking 1-drops, especially in red. Sure they are not exciting vs Power starts but T1 creatures are still important. Maybe you could try Teething Wurmlet alongside the Rookie/Tough Cookie/...? Not my most coherent prose in this comment, sorry
good name for vid
Every time I see Oracle I pray LSV takes it, one day
That was rough.. starting to worry we're getting quantity over quality with these.
Engagement!
So much disrespect for the Reclaimer! Gets Library, feed the yard for crucible, thins your deck! I find it awesome when drafting the lands deck.
Just wanted to add that in match 1 game 2 i might have drawn the Library and then vamped for a draw 7 since you opponent didn't really have much pressure 🤷
I feel like the title should be, "How much bond could a fastbond bond if a fastbond could bond fast"
How much bonds would a fastbond bond if a fastbond could fast bonds ;]
My girl and i had a fastbond but she naturalized it😢
Could you help me understand: what does he mean when he says "4 on 4 draft"? Also what are the draw-sevens he is talking about?
I really don't like manadorks in fastbond-exploration decks. You're already super prone to flooding with 18-19 lands, adding in dorks that just generate mana makes you even more vulnerable. I think swapping out noble for an Esika's Chariot (in the draft) might have been good
Before I even see the video just want to say am only watching because of the title
How can I join a draft?
Big green mana deck and doesn't even give Craterhoof a look in a pack with like 6 cards. How far my boy has fallen...
Real shame to pass on the cobra for the Fastbond/Courser/Growth Chamber/Cobra/Tracker combo.
First, now that’s a fast bond!
A fastbond could bond fastbond fast if a fastbond bonded fast
But if a fastbond could bond fast should a fastbond bond fast?
I'm a little surprised to see Garruk Wildspeaker still in the cube. There have to be better ways to untap two lands.
It's weaker than it used to be, but the split between +1 untap lands and -1 make a 3/3 is still good enough to be playable
If ik isn't just Ian Kendall, then something is wrong with the world. If it is Ian, then you should might remember him from #teamss days.
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
A woodchuck would chuck what a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
Also I like fastbond.
Even if a woodchuck could chuck wood and even if a woodchuck would chuck wood, should a woodchuck chuck wood?
Maybe I'm just a hater, but it really seems like there's more than enough variance in vintage cube style formats without also needing stuff like comet around.
😢 everytime oracle get passed. Past your time lady!
The Library was a bad pick for this deck over the zuran orb. Your gonna dump your hand everytime unless you get to wheel which isn't much of a benefit.
Cant pass library to take zuran orb in a team draft.
@@rezzytheskyguy Library is in no way hate draft worthy, considering 2/3 players on the opposing team were aggro and there was nothing indicating either person was playing red as he didn't see any red cards being passed to him its really not that big of a deal. Its not like it was academy or hullbreacher.
Yes you can, but only if you want to win games, which is good for the team as far as I'm aware@@rezzytheskyguy
@@Oxiloth you guys clearly dont understand how team draft works. Thats cool.
dude you had exploration and fastbond & gitrog and you past on cobra, is that mana overkill cause i prefer that pick
Man, those Comet roles were some bs.
Late to the game are LSV and Gabby still together?
Annnnnd back on the losing streak with great looking decks we go. We were off it for a little bit but now we’re back on it😞
Stretching the "great looking" a little
I really dont think comet is a good card for the cube. Theres nothing fun about playing it, nothing fun about losing to it or even watching you lose to it over and over again in these weird long shot "deal 16 damage" turns. Its stupid & while variance is supposed to have a hand in card games, its not supposed to be like that. Idk. I just really dont like that card or the way it deflates these videos. You were fine, then you died to one card. Not a 3 card combo, not anything that had to be worked for. Just a 4 mana card that says you lose and cant interact with me on it. Its really annoying.
Comet and the entire Initiative mechanic make most of these drafts really lame to watch.
@@just_anon initiative at least has play to it & can be countered and played into
100% agree.
it's pretty funny though
And it's not fun to see people win with it.
Of Courser he plays it
first
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1-2 is better than I was expecting.
Oh look, another first round loss - fun! 🙃