The Stupidest 4-Way Control Mirror | Commander Clash S16 E06

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Komentáře • 239

  • @andyspendlove1019
    @andyspendlove1019 Před 6 měsíci +366

    Legit shocked a 4 way control mirror game is only an hour long

    • @harrisonlorens3585
      @harrisonlorens3585 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Same lmao, very interested to see how it plays out.

    • @Niuttuc
      @Niuttuc Před 6 měsíci +187

      The actual game time was over three hours, but a lot of it was people thinking while doing nothing, as could be expected, so the edited video is much shorter

    • @kurowasanabe
      @kurowasanabe Před 6 měsíci +48

      Editor is Best Boy yet again.

    • @TMidander
      @TMidander Před 6 měsíci +9

      Thank you for the deep Lore!@@Niuttuc

    • @hanschristopherson8056
      @hanschristopherson8056 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I think the actual game was, it was like 20+ turns

  • @Nathanael_Forlorn
    @Nathanael_Forlorn Před 6 měsíci +157

    Again, I miss the debrief segment at the end.
    Makes for a less abrupt end and it's just natural to talk about the game that just happened.
    That's what we do irl as well, isn't it.

    • @gerardoayala8124
      @gerardoayala8124 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Though I agree, I can imagine Seth wearily saying "we don't need a wrap up" after this game lol

    • @gluttonne
      @gluttonne Před 6 měsíci +1

      Could make a fun follow video for people that like wrap ups

  • @Luteloots
    @Luteloots Před 6 měsíci +108

    Wow what an ending. 100% did not see that coming in the slightest. This was WAY more fun to watch than it had any right being considering it was a 4 way control mirror.

    • @chrisgebben2043
      @chrisgebben2043 Před 6 měsíci +1

      for those wondering what that was don't look below
      Basically richard drew a miracle with his "Spectral sailor" he drew "Glacial Chasm" then he was able to kill both of them with "Price of Progress" and he lives with his land.

    • @JustDan_777
      @JustDan_777 Před 6 měsíci

      100% agree so fun to watch even tho all control

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 Před 6 měsíci +131

    I like how the phil control deck is still a phil disgusting value deck 😂

  • @thatguyinyellow2950
    @thatguyinyellow2950 Před 6 měsíci +59

    Your editor is amazing! they put all of the cards on screen and cut all of the boring searching! Love you guys!

  • @ernestosalinas1091
    @ernestosalinas1091 Před 6 měsíci +62

    Crim's birthday party looks good

  • @Snargglecraft
    @Snargglecraft Před 6 měsíci +62

    The editor is doing a GREAT job

  • @Deverille
    @Deverille Před 6 měsíci +38

    Not a Green mana pip in sight. Beautiful. Really enjoyed this game. Control match-ups are fun to watch.

  • @vividsyntax5301
    @vividsyntax5301 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Phil's absolute disdain with "You tap your lands in different directions? Disgusting." made me laugh out loud. To be fair, he's correct. XD

  • @KDurahan
    @KDurahan Před 6 měsíci +10

    I have to say, I'm loving the new format where you play with real cards. MTGO works, but i'm a big fan of your current setup and the editor is doing an amazing job with the big cards to read as they get played

  • @onlyRicky_x
    @onlyRicky_x Před 6 měsíci +10

    I love how organized Phil's board is

  • @thatguyinyellow2950
    @thatguyinyellow2950 Před 6 měsíci +7

    The change to spelltable is amazing! I love this so much!

  • @DrMonty-ng5fo
    @DrMonty-ng5fo Před 6 měsíci +11

    what a cool win! never seen that combo before.

  • @Spotifist
    @Spotifist Před 6 měsíci +20

    Did not expect it to end like that but it makes sense. The editing is great but I do miss MTGO, maybe I’ll get used to the new format eventually. Thanks for the video!

  • @lesternomo6578
    @lesternomo6578 Před 6 měsíci +5

    richard trying to mystic sanctuary with half the lands in his deck out and only one island 😭

  • @heraclies325
    @heraclies325 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Am I the only one that noticed Richard used Sharpie to draw on his dry erase tokens at 36:16...?

  • @DragonAttack515
    @DragonAttack515 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Really like the in person format

  • @corbinunderwood8584
    @corbinunderwood8584 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Crim, it was an amazing day meeting you at nationals. I'm so thankful to have your signature on my mat. Also wanted to let you know I ended up 43rd:) in the digimon nationals

  • @AustinMerfeld
    @AustinMerfeld Před 6 měsíci +5

    Not going to lie, I was not expecting the price of progress. Very nice finish.

  • @tianruixiao9239
    @tianruixiao9239 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Back from vacation to catch up on the clashes! This episode you know Crim definitely says clash on!

  • @allnightgamer792
    @allnightgamer792 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I never look in the foreground of their streams too often but I'm just NOW noticing that Phil has a Buddy Christ model and that's the best thing ever

  • @lesternomo6578
    @lesternomo6578 Před 6 měsíci +4

    phil looking like jimmy wong with these land drops

  • @WushuTaz
    @WushuTaz Před 6 měsíci +6

    Always enjoyed your taste in basic lands Seth. Keep it coming, there is still so much excellent "under rated" art out there.

  • @moralessanchezoscarelias6412
    @moralessanchezoscarelias6412 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Excellent edition, it made the game feel fast paced! One of the most enjoyable control matches to watch

  • @krevin543
    @krevin543 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Love the layout of the video with the playmate and faces in square frames in the middle

  • @esconde9922
    @esconde9922 Před 6 měsíci +22

    Gold border cards are awesome.

  • @thomasvconti
    @thomasvconti Před 6 měsíci +9

    Richard won despite having lost like 10 Nezahal triggers, well played

    • @Thecalebpoe
      @Thecalebpoe Před 6 měsíci +1

      Spoilers much....

    • @masterjbt
      @masterjbt Před 6 měsíci

      richard always wins lol

    • @emagtresni
      @emagtresni Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Thecalebpoe If you haven't watched the video you shouldn't be reading the comments.

    • @Thecalebpoe
      @Thecalebpoe Před 6 měsíci

      @@emagtresni how does that even make sense. I was looking to see if someone commented what I was thinking during a certain point of the video. So I could join that conversation.

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@Thecalebpoe Protip: The comments section will contain spoilers. Including the thing you were looking for, which also would've been a spoiler for people who haven't watched as much of the video as you have.

  • @dolando5031
    @dolando5031 Před 6 měsíci +2

    As someone whos only really ever watched MTGO/Arena, I'm enjoying the switch to paper a lot. The on screen graphics really help clarity, and not having to deal with MTGO's jankiness is really nice (even edited down it would slow the experience down as a spectator, it mustve been 10x worse for you guys lol)

  • @Ingvar_the_Red
    @Ingvar_the_Red Před 6 měsíci +2

    This is the most riveting game I have seen in a long time, and I aint even joking.

  • @hammernnaila7031
    @hammernnaila7031 Před 6 měsíci +10

    The only episode that I feel has held up to the previous seasons on MTGO.

  • @stronggreenflame
    @stronggreenflame Před 6 měsíci

    This has been amazing. The thing i love the most about control decks is you are never completely out of the game. And its so hard to know who's in the lead.

  • @Nathanael_Forlorn
    @Nathanael_Forlorn Před 6 měsíci +1

    As the dedicated hard control player of the pod, I am very thankful for this episode!
    A) I love a good control mirror match!
    B) As my list is less salty than these are, I am hopeful that folks will be not as upset with me. :D

  • @xantous2229
    @xantous2229 Před 6 měsíci +15

    It's been a few weeks of them doing the live play and I think its 1000% better than playing mtgo. I hope this is the new standard for commander clash

  • @arieleraso5734
    @arieleraso5734 Před 6 měsíci +2

    phil at 19:50 LOL

  • @ctomsky
    @ctomsky Před 6 měsíci +1

    Okay so maybe a 4-way control game is a bit much, but it IS nice to see them actually playing interaction and counterspells.

  • @ToSGod
    @ToSGod Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is amazing. Thank you for this episode.

  • @BoozeJob
    @BoozeJob Před 6 měsíci

    That was great and I would love to see more control-leaning themes in the future!

  • @Swnkmstr
    @Swnkmstr Před 6 měsíci +8

    Dragonlord Ojutai? Hook 2015 standard up and pump it into my veins xD

  • @xyavdast5554
    @xyavdast5554 Před 6 měsíci +4

    On turn 18 - during Crim's turn - at 51:00 Seth used Azcanta to get "Approach of the Second Sun" to his hand.
    Then his turn followed.
    As such during his turn Seth could have simply used his Boseiju's ability to make an instant or sorcery spell uncounterable and used it to cast "Approach of the Second Sun" a second time - just like he did for the first time a few turns prior.
    So he would have won the game with that, right?
    Did he not do it to keep the game going for content or is there another reason I failed to see preventing him from casting it that way while he was at 25 life?

    • @laytonjr6601
      @laytonjr6601 Před 6 měsíci

      I'm wondering the same thing. Crim did say he had a plan for that (and that he would have used it on Nezahal if Approach hadn't been the biggest threat)
      Edit: I've now reached the end of the video, and Crim didn't use it on the Price of Progress so I don't know what he had (he only had 3 untapped lands)

    • @ScottyDoesKnow
      @ScottyDoesKnow Před 6 měsíci

      That was bothering me so much, but looking back it was somewhat reasonable, even if I still woulda gone for it. Crim said he had it handled, and basically what would've happened if he cast it the first time he could it'd get Venser'd back to his hand. He had enough mana to try again but not uncounterable and then it'd probably be countered. That might have been the best result since it would take the heat off him, cause if he tried once and then saved it for the next turn he was dead to the board once everyone focused him. Not trying again the turn after was pretty bad though, he was so low he was basically dead already.

    • @ScottyDoesKnow
      @ScottyDoesKnow Před 6 měsíci

      @@laytonjr6601 It was the Venser he used to save his Teferi

    • @xyavdast5554
      @xyavdast5554 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ScottyDoesKnowSo basically if Seth did not discard his "Stifle" and would have activated his "The One Ring's" ability first to draw out Richard's "Tishana's Tidebinder" then he could have cast "Approach of the Second Sun" uncounterable.
      This would have caused Crim to cast his "Venser" but Seth could have countered it by using his "Stifle".
      Therefore unless someone else had another counter Seth would have had the chance to win the game that turn if he kept "Stifle".
      Everything would have depended on anyone else having another counter.
      Is that right?

    • @ScottyDoesKnow
      @ScottyDoesKnow Před 6 měsíci

      @@xyavdast5554 Ya I also thought it was kinda weird he pitched the stifle, that could've been the win though it could easily have been countered. In the end you gotta just go for it rather than sit there and slowly die

  • @atle853
    @atle853 Před 6 měsíci

    Absolutely loving the paper content, please keep doing it!

  • @BM-rd4ms
    @BM-rd4ms Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have been on gold basics for awhile. Glad Seth has seen the light lol

  • @ethanmaples8893
    @ethanmaples8893 Před 6 měsíci

    by far my favorite episode in a long time. Was so fun to watch!

  • @MagicAlfi
    @MagicAlfi Před měsícem

    I wish there were more matches like this ^^

  • @NaldoNidoking
    @NaldoNidoking Před 6 měsíci

    Great episode. 4 control decks is always a fun time.

  • @hiSoraaa
    @hiSoraaa Před 6 měsíci

    Really do love the paper magic as a change up and hope to see more of it in the future!

  • @highshelf
    @highshelf Před 6 měsíci +1

    Phil was genius for playing monarch on control week

  • @Eddyb1e
    @Eddyb1e Před 6 měsíci +6

    As unfun as this might initially come off as, I actually really enjoyed the level of interaction in this game.

    • @DiscardatRandom
      @DiscardatRandom Před 6 měsíci +1

      High interaction game are usually the most fun

  • @crayyonnyadrav4055
    @crayyonnyadrav4055 Před 6 měsíci

    The most impressive thing was just that altered Mana Tithe. The priorities here have been laid out clear and loud.

  • @Spacie_687
    @Spacie_687 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love how three diffrent teferis were in this episode

    • @DarthTUK
      @DarthTUK Před 6 měsíci +1

      4

    • @skykur
      @skykur Před 6 měsíci

      @@DarthTUK 5 if you count his protection too XD

    • @DiscardatRandom
      @DiscardatRandom Před 6 měsíci

      I would’ve expected more

  • @gerardoayala8124
    @gerardoayala8124 Před 6 měsíci

    Perhaps it was a brutal experience for (some of) the players, but that was a really cool game! Love how everyone injected their own flavor into their control decks.

  • @stayathomedad4830
    @stayathomedad4830 Před 6 měsíci

    Dragonlord Oj was so much fun in standard. Thats when i got into edh. My esper dragons was a fnm pub stomper. My favorite card that standard rotation was "silence". The look on peoples face when i would silence them was priceless

  • @Zwork101
    @Zwork101 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Not sure why this is labeled as disgusting, this was Magic at it's finest

  • @Wearywastrel
    @Wearywastrel Před 6 měsíci

    Wild prediction during the intro, this ends with a man-land beatdown somehow.

  • @thomasdehetre300
    @thomasdehetre300 Před 6 měsíci

    This game is a perfect example for this format of video being superior. I bet this would have been a 3 hour game on mtgo.

  • @nathanpalmiter3260
    @nathanpalmiter3260 Před 6 měsíci +1

    That was a cool win though

  • @voidprism_studios666
    @voidprism_studios666 Před 6 měsíci

    interesting watch. That ending K.O. was epic

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad Před 6 měsíci +1

    Richard tricked me. I thought that Phil actually played Standstill.

  • @SP-ik6cc
    @SP-ik6cc Před 6 měsíci

    This was a lot of fun to watch, guys!

  • @Ravynsrage
    @Ravynsrage Před 6 měsíci

    This was absolutely fantastic to watch

  • @astrowerm
    @astrowerm Před 6 měsíci

    Crim didnt even say clash on and everyones like, he did it good job! Haha

  • @GomuRoux
    @GomuRoux Před 6 měsíci +7

    I’m surprised myself at how much more enjoyable those “live” games have been for me. Glad you guys keep playing this way

  • @VivBrodock
    @VivBrodock Před 6 měsíci

    Crim is so happy throughout this video it's so cute

  • @brighamschellinger147
    @brighamschellinger147 Před 6 měsíci

    Got to give it to Richard. He practices what he preaches.

  • @ScoobyDoo135711
    @ScoobyDoo135711 Před 6 měsíci

    Dang, awesome seeing all the instant speed interactions everyone had. Really thought that Crim would have won as it was in in forte.

  • @CyberNewType
    @CyberNewType Před 6 měsíci

    loved,loved,loved this game! Good job guys!

  • @emailboyatthestar
    @emailboyatthestar Před 6 měsíci

    this was amazing guys! really enjoyed this!

  • @Razdasoldier
    @Razdasoldier Před 2 měsíci

    No one played a commander that made their own spells uncounterable. Was this a gentleman's agreement?

  • @webbc99
    @webbc99 Před 6 měsíci

    Hilarious game, there were so many Teferis :D

  • @coreysierchio4650
    @coreysierchio4650 Před 6 měsíci +1

    1:04:16 Phil called it!

  • @williamscerbo458
    @williamscerbo458 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Control mirrors are some of my favorite 1v1 games to play. Curious how this plays out in 4 player.

  • @_claymore
    @_claymore Před 6 měsíci

    "[you] tap your lands in different directions? disgusting.." - Phil, and he's goddamn right about it

  • @tk421eatmyshorts
    @tk421eatmyshorts Před 6 měsíci +2

    Seth had Boseiju, what was he afraid of casting the Approach into?

    • @Princeofseance
      @Princeofseance Před 6 měsíci +1

      You can exile spells or end the turn etc

    • @Princeofseance
      @Princeofseance Před 6 měsíci

      Ok Crim wasn't bluffing he had Venser to bounce the spell back

    • @seanv42
      @seanv42 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Time stop, remand, mindbteak trap, summary dismissal for a few options.

    • @tk421eatmyshorts
      @tk421eatmyshorts Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@seanv42 Remand wouldn't work (it only exiles if the spell is actually counter) but the other three are good points.

  • @ciaran.downey
    @ciaran.downey Před 6 měsíci

    Thank God Phil brought Chandra lol

  • @LilRawly
    @LilRawly Před 6 měsíci

    "Misery is on the menu" like every week

  • @jessegalvin1187
    @jessegalvin1187 Před 6 měsíci

    Mad respects to Crim for the Menzingers shirt!

  • @thygamerguy
    @thygamerguy Před 6 měsíci

    what a twist ending!!

  • @alexkulis7295
    @alexkulis7295 Před 6 měsíci

    Loving the webcam games by the way. The games definitely move at a better pace than what MTGO allows with its outdated interface.

  • @zazinjozaza6193
    @zazinjozaza6193 Před 6 měsíci

    what a great episode, good job guys

  • @Jokerspack
    @Jokerspack Před 6 měsíci

    That was such a great game to watch! :)

  • @jacksonhall2334
    @jacksonhall2334 Před 6 měsíci

    Watching seth bend his cards in frame hurt me personally

  • @gmpd4191
    @gmpd4191 Před 6 měsíci

    Haven’t even watched it yet. This is going to be a great game. Hitting the like button

  • @fade2grey
    @fade2grey Před 6 měsíci

    Love the paper gameplay!

  • @chadjones1266
    @chadjones1266 Před měsícem

    Thanks again

  • @Civera89
    @Civera89 Před 6 měsíci

    Finally, some real Pod Racing!

  • @lothrazar
    @lothrazar Před měsícem

    i feel like Lunar Force is extremely underrated. it did work

  • @HinderYourGeneral
    @HinderYourGeneral Před 6 měsíci

    Seth you gotta play your commander!! Haha
    I have a Dragonlord Ojutai deck made of only cards I've played in standard except lands and a couple mana rocks. She is such a blast to play.

  • @xaxscratchxax926
    @xaxscratchxax926 Před 6 měsíci +1

    "Trouble is Paris"

  • @Skylersuzy
    @Skylersuzy Před 6 měsíci

    Fantastic content guys

  • @TheDewbolt
    @TheDewbolt Před 6 měsíci

    Loved the game!

  • @jekanyika
    @jekanyika Před 6 měsíci +1

    Tbf Crim didn't actually *Clash on!* He managed to fool Richard though.

  • @EnemyToad
    @EnemyToad Před 6 měsíci

    Chrimium! Is this one tempo, too? Love my Chromium deck.

  • @gmpd4191
    @gmpd4191 Před 6 měsíci

    Am I the only person who misses MTGO? Honestly thought it gave the channel some charm because it was the only channel that used it and honestly the random bugs and crashes are probably frustrating for the players but it’s a fun bit of chaos.

  • @Roll-Penut
    @Roll-Penut Před 6 měsíci

    I love this paper magic much more than mtgo

  • @Varler_
    @Varler_ Před 6 měsíci

    Huge props to @Niuttuc for editing this down to an hour!
    Also, that Glacial Chasm into Price of Progress to win was pretty stylish!

  • @josephpayton7522
    @josephpayton7522 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I miss MTGO big time because of losing the hand camera, but this is the kind of episode we gain because of the switch. Someone would have timed out if you played this on MTGO and that never felt good.
    I do miss the video being 3 hours longer so i could result experience the pain of this kind of match though. Lol.

    • @tierfunmtg
      @tierfunmtg Před 6 měsíci

      Preach

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 Před 6 měsíci

      Ah yes, MTGO commander videos, the most exciting way to watch four people wait for a computer to calculate a card

    • @josephpayton7522
      @josephpayton7522 Před 6 měsíci

      @@xchronox0 Ah yes, an idiot.
      No one said it was more exciting. Who's watching commander content for excitement anyway. MtgO was technically more accurate and informative, grumpypants.

    • @tierfunmtg
      @tierfunmtg Před 6 měsíci

      @@xchronox0You mean they get to banter and horse around? Maybe talk about their impressions of the set and their decks? Let a little personality shine through? Gosh, perish the thought.

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 Před 6 měsíci

      @@tierfunmtg They can do the same without MTGO, and definitely do so during this video.

  • @thegreatestblood
    @thegreatestblood Před 6 měsíci

    Had to look up how many cards started with the word "Teferi" in the decklists. There are 15. Seems like cards with his name might be a good include in control match ups.

  • @Keos027
    @Keos027 Před 6 měsíci

    Imo that's the best magic, interacting with your opponents. I'm curious to know how long was the unedited game.

  • @person3176
    @person3176 Před 6 měsíci

    i adore seths gold border basics

  • @urnow2986
    @urnow2986 Před 6 měsíci

    Seth has the real plan, get yourself eliminated first, This is a real War Games "The only winning move is not to play" kind of setup (Loved it to be clear)

  • @Dafins100
    @Dafins100 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Is there a story behind why Richard says Otawaroo instead of Otawara? Or is he just being wrong?