The unique 1960s Hi-Fi systems that became time capsules

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  • The Schaub Lorenz 5001 Music Centres were ahead of their time, expensive and a failure. Fifty years on, surviving examples often hold a unique piece of the past. (CLICK - “SHOW MORE”)...
    Invaluable resources:
    www.ilove-schaub-lorenz-music-...
    www.hifi-archiv.info
    www.americanradiohistory.com
    Thanks to:
    Edward Norton (not that one) - I believe he was the first person to put me onto the Schaub Lorenz 5001 - He mentioned it in the comments to a few of my videos back in 2016. I then searched for a working one for a year and bought the machine you see in this video in November 2017. Edward's youtube channel can be found at / farmerinboots09
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    •If you want to learn more about these unique machines visit www.ilove-schaub-lorenz-music-... - On here, amongst other things you’ll find information about the 29.7 hour stereo version of the recorder that was made by Schaub Lorenz but wasn’t used in their own cabinets, instead it was sold to GE in the US.
    •During playback this machine should automatically advance onto the next track after rewinding and continue playing. Because of this feature a number of these were used as background music players in hotels etc.
    •The track length of 22 minutes is more suited for recording one side of an LP per track. As long as your LPs were of a suitable length it would hold 63. The lack of fast forward makes more sense here as playing a track is just like playing one whole side of a record from the beginning to the end.
    •Repairs - I won’t be attempting any repairs on the lighting circuit until I get the audio recorded from the machine. I don’t want to risk damaging anything before all the recordings have been archived.
    •The speaker output isn’t designed to be plugged into a recorder - the impedance is different from a standard RCA connection - hence the ‘thinner’ than optimal sound - since making the video I've added a "High to Low level converter" between the speaker output and the PCM recorder line-in and these new recordings sound much better.
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  • @Techmoan
    @Techmoan  Před 5 lety +1091

    *FAQs INFO & UPDATES*
    • Since making the video *I've added a "High to Low level converter" between the speaker output and the PCM recorder line-in and these new recordings sound much better.* The speaker output isn’t designed to be plugged into a recorder - the impedance is different from a standard RCA connection - hence the ‘thinner’ than optimal sound in some of the video demos.
    •If you want to learn more about these unique machines visit www.ilove-schaub-lorenz-music-centers.com/ - On here, amongst other things you’ll find information about the 29.7 hour stereo version of the recorder that was made by Schaub Lorenz but wasn’t used in their own cabinets, instead it was sold to GE in the US.
    •During playback this machine should automatically advance onto the next track after rewinding and continue playing. Because of this feature a number of these were used as background music players in hotels etc.
    •The track length of 22 minutes is more suited for recording one side of an LP per track. As long as your LPs were of a suitable length it would hold 63. The lack of fast forward makes more sense here as playing a track is just like playing one whole side of a record from the beginning to the end.
    •Repairs - I won’t be attempting any repairs on the lighting circuit until I get the audio recorded from the machine. I don’t want to risk damaging anything before all the recordings have been archived.

    • @solidamber
      @solidamber Před 5 lety +31

      They must be very reliable, the troubleshooting page has no entries.

    • @mgabrysSF
      @mgabrysSF Před 5 lety +148

      If you put the recordings on archive.org - please post a link in the description because that's a treasure trove you've got there.

    • @MrPiroman1990
      @MrPiroman1990 Před 5 lety +12

      I was just about to comment about that. Pluging power output into recorder or a console is potentialy damaging for the amplifier in most cases. Consider yourself lucky for avoiding an accident.
      Very enjoyable video otherwise . Cheers.

    • @MrPlannery
      @MrPlannery Před 5 lety +20

      If you need any advice from the SL 5001 engineer I found, let me know and I can pass his details (he's not hard to find TBH).

    • @whatifchinese
      @whatifchinese Před 5 lety +4

      you need to pin this!

  • @swarfrat311
    @swarfrat311 Před 5 lety +346

    After graduating high school in 1965, I worked at a local 500-watt AM radio station. This was before broadcast cart machines were invented, so we had the advertisements ("spots" in radio lingo) and other jingles recorded on a Gates model ST-101 Spot Tape Machine. This unit contained an 11-inch wide tape with 101 tracks each with a running time of 90 seconds. After the commercial or jingle played, you flipped a switch to rewind the tape. The tape had little windows in the oxide layer so a light could shine through the clear tape backing onto a photo cell. If you didn't rewind the tape it would automatically rewind when it got to the end. At the start of the tape was another window that would stop the rewind and re-cue the tape. It had a lever with that locked into notches to select a track. In case the dj forgot what track contained stuff, there was a list posted near the machine with the title of the spot or jingle and the track number. It was quite an ingenious machine.
    Thanks for the posting, Mat.
    Dave in California

    • @beavis6363
      @beavis6363 Před 5 lety +11

      "Swarf". Somebody knows the black art of grinding. I was a class A grind operator for Rollway Bearing back in the 80's running Heald universal grinders. Lobing, grit marks, burning, chatter, perpendicularity, runout, dog stops, and coolant floods. Ah, the memories.

    • @rockolutheran
      @rockolutheran Před 5 lety +3

      Fidelipac was invented in 1959...

    • @Split10uk
      @Split10uk Před 5 lety +1

      Indeed..one of these www.radioyears.com/wpla/photo_details.cfm?photo=1357 They say 12 inch tape, but who's counting.

    • @maxwolfe9699
      @maxwolfe9699 Před 5 lety +8

      Dave - What great memories. My first full time radio job was for WJPW 810 in Rockford, Michigan (different calls now and Spanish language station). This was in 1966 the year I graduated from high school. The station was only a year old. Although we had two cart machines, one of them - the record unit - was mounted in a huge cabinet and was disconnected and rolled into the production room when a spot had to be produced. We only owned about 50 cartridges so the majority of the spots wereWe on one of these Gates units. Ours was so poorly maintained it had so much wow and flutter that you couldn't record music on it. So all the spots on it were voice only. And if you had two spots on it that had to run back-to-back you had to reach up and manually rewind as soon as the first spot was done and ab lib for about 30 seconds until it was rewound. It produced a loud "clunk" sound when it was ready to go again. I did a lot of long, drawn out weather forecasts on a busy afternoon when we had a heavy spot load.
      The station was owned by a guy that ran a bunch of jukeboxes in the Grand Rapids area. The two turntables in the studio were little 7" turntables taken out of old jukeboxes with huge Gray tonearms added! If you were playing an LP you had 3 1/2" hanging over the edge of the turntable so you had to have a large weight centered on your record. We had a couple 3" industrial nuts for this.
      It was a great learning experience and it lead to over 50 years in commercial broadcasting, from unrated to top 10 markets. Spent years in Washington, DC, Houston, Salt Lake and Las Vegas. In all that time I never ran into anyone else that was familiar with that Gares machine.
      Max

    • @swarfrat311
      @swarfrat311 Před 5 lety +7

      @@maxwolfe9699 Thanks for sharing your experience. KMSL 1260 AM was in Ukiah, CA. We had 2 Gates (I forget the model number) turntables with (if memory serves) Pickering cartridges. The spot tape machine sat at a 45-degree angle to the "board" (Gates "The Yard"). You always tried to rewind the tape machine when the mike was dead as the machine made a loud whirring sound when rewinding. There was also a cloud "clunk" when the machine stopped rewind and re-cued itself. These sounds were audible on a hot mike. The control room also had a Berlant Concertone reel to reel tape deck. It took up to 10.5" NAB reels. We got some Sunday religious programing on tape, but most on 14" transcription disk. There would be 2 sermons on each side of the disk, so each disk was 4 Sundays of programming.
      Unfortunately, the owner went bankrupt and sold the equipment for pennies on the dollar. I tried to get on another local station, but didn't. I tried some stations in towns not far from home and failed. I gave up broadcasting and have always regretted it. It was fun work!

  • @bryanmcalley5695
    @bryanmcalley5695 Před 4 lety +223

    Many thanks - I've spent the last 20 years repairing and restoring these beasts, so if you get stuck let me know!! I also have masses of spares for them.... I'm a Tefifon restorer as well, and this is well up to your usual high standard of videos!! All the best,
    Bryan

    • @Space_Reptile
      @Space_Reptile Před 3 lety +29

      i think its best you send techmoan a well worded email, if you havent already

    • @Roberob1189
      @Roberob1189 Před 2 lety +11

      I think it’s great that there’s people (you) out there still working and repairing these machines.

    • @michaelmarshall1628
      @michaelmarshall1628 Před 16 hodinami

      You are much appreciated Bryan I'm just trying to out as plug in this but two wires without any colour indicator I font want to blow it up it was working great last time it was tested

  • @rich1051414
    @rich1051414 Před 4 lety +360

    Man over 40 hours of radio from the late 60's through the 70's is priceless!

    • @scaleop4
      @scaleop4 Před 4 lety +9

      yea your not kiddin

    • @4TheRecord
      @4TheRecord Před 3 lety +6

      I wish there was a way to get hold of all the recordings he's done. Do you know if he's selling DVD/Blu-ray's with all these audio recordings?

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 Před 3 lety +8

      @@4TheRecord That would probably be illegal without a LOT of correspondence. I don't know how long before that recording becomes public domain.

    • @RossMitchellsProfile
      @RossMitchellsProfile Před 3 lety +3

      There's probably some movie studio that'd be intrested in buying something like that for use in films. (obviously the rights to the music would probably be separate)

    • @aris95
      @aris95 Před 3 lety +2

      That's a wacky machine! Real blast from the past literally

  • @pauldavis6356
    @pauldavis6356 Před 3 lety +25

    Incredible that the tape has lasted that long. Watching it rewind actually scared me a little. Nice demonstration.

  • @einstein.1869
    @einstein.1869 Před 5 lety +577

    Those Kenny Everett recordings are SUPER rare! Don't lose them! All his tapes were lost!

    • @MrWombatty
      @MrWombatty Před 5 lety +70

      Lost? Most probably intently destroyed/recorded-over each time Kenny was sacked!

    • @christopheralthouse6378
      @christopheralthouse6378 Před 5 lety +31

      TechMoan...Internet historian extraordinaire! 😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😊

    • @PoisonedAl
      @PoisonedAl Před 5 lety +63

      @@MrWombatty Yes, but fired or not, the BBC would have recorded over them anyway. Tape was expensive, and was reused constantly. Many shows were lost.

    • @einstein.1869
      @einstein.1869 Před 5 lety +22

      @@PoisonedAl we should get all the home recordings of Kenny Everett and create an archive.

    • @todaysbestmix
      @todaysbestmix Před 5 lety +18

      Kenny Everett was amazing :)

  • @bavarianbanshee
    @bavarianbanshee Před 4 lety +99

    Hearing the actual radio broadcast from the '77 Belgian Grand Prix was really amazing. Thank you.

    • @Zestyclose-Big3127
      @Zestyclose-Big3127 Před 2 lety +2

      Two Swedish drivers on the podium. I wonder how many times that happened.

    • @capt.bart.roberts4975
      @capt.bart.roberts4975 Před rokem +2

      The driver of the second Tyrell, was the getaway driver for The Great Train Robbery, Bruce something of other. I'm not good at names.

  • @HughJeffreys
    @HughJeffreys Před 3 lety +211

    WOW thats amazing, i would love to listen to the radio of the past.

    • @tysontitus3332
      @tysontitus3332 Před 3 lety +6

      czcams.com/video/B324wjx91lg/video.html i think you will enjoy this!!

    • @G-Mastah-Fash
      @G-Mastah-Fash Před 3 lety +6

      There are some full broadcasts on archive.org. Most from the 80's and later but the 60's an 70's also have a pretty big selection.

    • @RoraighPrice
      @RoraighPrice Před 3 lety +2

      im sure iv listened to some on Spotify too but i couldn't find them when i just quickly looked.

  • @gjrrr2968
    @gjrrr2968 Před 4 lety +130

    Imagine needing to buy a second machine because you ran out of space.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Před 4 lety +13

      Imagine buying a second machine because you wanted stereo. A synchronization mechanism wouldn't have been too difficult, I don't think.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Před 4 lety +7

      @@danieldaniels7571 Well, that's par for the course. Indeed, the less sanity one has, the lesser the cost after the attempt. ;-)

  • @DasGanon
    @DasGanon Před 5 lety +586

    That's amazing!
    You should put the whole of the contents on the internet archive!

    • @mgabrysSF
      @mgabrysSF Před 5 lety +95

      Agreed. That's pure archive.org fuel. Huge fan of their work (and Techmoan). I use them because they can reformat material for everyone in one shot (scanned pdf converted to PDF w/text, spoken word for the blind, ebooks, kindle - boom - from one single uploaded doc)

    • @AnonyDave
      @AnonyDave Před 5 lety +10

      Paging Jason Scott....

    • @StevenOBrien
      @StevenOBrien Před 5 lety +15

      I want to hear all of it too, but he probably can't because of copyright. :(

    • @slashtiger1
      @slashtiger1 Před 5 lety +26

      @@StevenOBrien Me too... All I can say is copyright sucks sometimes... Especially when the creative minds involved can't even benefit from it any more, because they've passed on... I would have LOVED being able to hear all of this in one, two or three runs...

    • @ladymunch0
      @ladymunch0 Před 5 lety +17

      Agreed. @techmoan please upload all this old radio content to the Internet Archive for everyone to enjoy. Fab video as always!

  • @lesrogers7310
    @lesrogers7310 Před 5 lety +155

    Wow...i'm ancient and into HiFI but i've never seen or heard of this machine. What a fabulous peice of equipment.

    • @robertbox5399
      @robertbox5399 Před 5 lety +2

      It is a thing of beauty indeed. Need a bigger house though.

    • @fontende
      @fontende Před 5 lety +1

      That speaker inside look so modern, amazing.

    • @petrosrz8990
      @petrosrz8990 Před 5 lety +2

      tarstarkusz well todays people only want base. And good prices. Today’s people are stupid. And that comes from a 17 year old

  • @Professorke
    @Professorke Před 3 lety +28

    I'm glad I could still see this, because in 1974 I repaired such a radio, the amplifier was broken and the mechanism had to be completely lubricated. I found the sound very good and the reception was very sensitive, you didn't need a large antenna. I got a nice price for that at the sale.

  • @meropealcyone
    @meropealcyone Před 4 lety +88

    So it's well-designed consumer music product with limited access to the interior and a simple interface based on concentric circles. Yup, it's a sixties iPod.

  • @theautisticguitarist7560
    @theautisticguitarist7560 Před 5 lety +315

    You're like CZcams's cool uncle, thank you for existing.

  • @gooseknack
    @gooseknack Před 4 lety +22

    What a gem! To have that history recorded in such a way. I bet they never thought they would become an "Audio time capsule"!
    And thanks for sharing this remarkable and unusual piece of audio history.

  • @AppliedScience
    @AppliedScience Před 5 lety +92

    Amazing find, and video! I got a kick out of your "original iPod" clickbait thumbnail. Always enjoyable. Thanks!

  • @FrankOlsonTwins
    @FrankOlsonTwins Před 5 lety +154

    Wow, the 4" tape! And that rewind was TERRIFYING! Great find!

    • @klausstock8020
      @klausstock8020 Před 4 lety +18

      Yes, I guess the advertising about "you do need to know about what's inside" was actually the marketing version of "you would be ***ing scared to death if you knew what the **** was going on in there!".

    • @aterack833
      @aterack833 Před 4 lety +3

      Frank Olson Twins glad it isn’t trying to rope feed the reel, imagine if the feed motor keeps going but the take up motor fails?

    • @woopimagpie
      @woopimagpie Před 4 lety +8

      When I was a young fella a mate and I were tired of how long it took to rewind cassettes so we rigged up a 12v wiper motor from a car to rewind the tapes. It went alarmingly fast, and we wrecked a few tapes with that dizzy monster, that's for sure.

    • @woopimagpie
      @woopimagpie Před 4 lety +19

      @@aterack833 Heh. I worked a film projectionist for 12 years. I have quite a few stories about projector take-up belts breaking and the resulting pile-up of 35mm film. If you were in the room and saw it let go it was an easy enough problem to sort out on the fly, but if you were somewhere else in the building (which was likely in a multiplex type situation) then you were destined to return to an enormous pile of film on the floor, and that's if you were lucky. Some projector models had a dogleg turn at the bottom roller before going on to the spool so if the take-up failed it would quickly pile up in the soundhead and get horrendously torn up by the still rotating sprockets. Usually your first indication of that problem was the sound going dead. Front of house would buzz you and say "there's no sound in Cinema 4" and you'd go "Oh SHIT" and run like buggery to the corresponding projector. 2000 feet of film folded and jammed into an area about 6 inches square was not fun to sort out afterward. Ah, the memories. LOL.

    • @KorbinVelarde
      @KorbinVelarde Před 4 lety +2

      Didn't think it was gonna stop speeding up lmaooo

  • @webchimp
    @webchimp Před 5 lety +56

    That F1 report was timely considering the tributes to Lauda at this weekends Austrian GP.

    • @butters_147
      @butters_147 Před 5 lety +4

      @@lucasrem Verstappen is Dutch. 🇳🇱🏁

    • @tomtalk24
      @tomtalk24 Před 5 lety +1

      @@butters_147 Dutch, and a star to be!

    • @butters_147
      @butters_147 Před 5 lety

      @@tomtalk24 already a star! Kid is special, no doubt about it. Only a matter of time before he's World Champion.

    • @tomtalk24
      @tomtalk24 Před 5 lety +1

      @@butters_147 Defo! Once the money boys are out of the way he'll be on podium in every race.

  • @MattePurple1
    @MattePurple1 Před 2 lety +11

    The report on the Belgian Grand Prix is really cool. It's interesting to imagine the excitement surrounding an unfamiliar (to me) event more than 40 years ago. Unfortunately, I learned that the winner, Gunnar Nilsson, passed away the next year. Also, James Hunt ended up in seventh.

  • @MrChadsimoneaux
    @MrChadsimoneaux Před 5 lety +141

    I didn't know I was going to watch 31 minutes of video about a weird 1970s radio but I did. Your videos are always fascinating.

    • @vannjunkin8041
      @vannjunkin8041 Před 4 lety +1

      He pulls you in every time!

    • @davidmarawai5713
      @davidmarawai5713 Před 3 lety

      @@vannjunkin8041 i second that every time 😄😄

    • @pungisotu
      @pungisotu Před 3 lety

      Techmoan can.

    • @springer1985
      @springer1985 Před 3 lety

      Wow I thought you were joking. It really is 31 minutes. It felt like 10 minutes.

    • @RoraighPrice
      @RoraighPrice Před 3 lety +1

      wait this was 30mins long, I didn't notice. it was just so fascinating

  • @martytoo
    @martytoo Před 5 lety +14

    4 inch tape!!! Thanks so much. This is something I would have bought on close-out. In a year or so I won't believe I ever saw this incredible machine. The idea that everything but the illumination works is a testimony to the engineering and manufacture.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl Před 5 lety

      This really would be worthy of the Antiques Roadshow. Far more interesting than an old vase or similar.

  • @flemishdog
    @flemishdog Před 5 lety +57

    I would immediately start capping all the radio recordings from this and putting them onto the internet archive. We all need MORE cuddly Ken in our lives. Excellent video.

  • @trevorbrown6654
    @trevorbrown6654 Před 4 lety +21

    Definitely one of the most interesting items you've reviewed to date. Complex, innovative, well built, reliable, but unfortunately a bit of a dead end considering the way the market was going in the 1960s. That it is still working well half a century later is testimony to the quality and engineering that went into building it.

  • @mgsee
    @mgsee Před rokem +4

    I have a Shaub Lorenz portable radio that I bought at a car boot sale many years ago because I was into old radios at the time. It looked quite similar to the one in the image at the 2:00 mins point in this video. The sound quality was very good - rich with a surprising amount of bass weight. Unfortuanately, it no longer works and electronic repair shops are practically non-existent these days.

  • @davidmcgill1000
    @davidmcgill1000 Před 5 lety +220

    So it's a tape with 22 minutes of audio over 126 channels. Now that's oddware.

    • @danijelujcic8644
      @danijelujcic8644 Před 5 lety +39

      LGR?

    • @jan_h
      @jan_h Před 5 lety +23

      @Jurassic Coast Comics LGR mainly focuses on retrocomputing. He has a series called 'Oddware' where he reviews products that are "odd, forgotten, and obsolete."

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt Před 5 lety +2

      He even said it, this box is just out there. :}

    • @johnm3152
      @johnm3152 Před 4 lety +1

      Odd and interesting

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 Před 4 lety +2

      LGR didn't invent the term 'oddware'. 'Ware' refers to software/hardware.

  • @AdamJRichardson
    @AdamJRichardson Před 5 lety +16

    Man, what a treat. iPod with clickwheel is exactly what I thought of right away also. From 46 hours on your sideboard to 1000 songs in your pocket. That open back shot of the rewind is almost scary!

  • @supernatishere6578
    @supernatishere6578 Před 5 lety +12

    As a 45 year old woman who is a huge radio collector in fan what an amazing piece the historical recordings on that are just incredible I hope they had him here in the USA I doubt it but that is amazing it's gold it's historical gold the recordings alone

  • @jonathanharvey2156
    @jonathanharvey2156 Před 4 lety +15

    19:10 "I think Lemmy would approve" He certainly would Mat! - RIP Lemmy, You will be forever missed!

  • @dpt4402
    @dpt4402 Před 5 lety +22

    This could be one of your most amazing archaeological finds to date. Fascinating presentation cost analysis ,Target end-user ,price comparison of Technology of the time

  • @ExplosiveAction
    @ExplosiveAction Před 5 lety +15

    I was fully expecting this review to be about a modern retro looking device that contained a hard drive full of MP3s. This is quite something.

  • @DaveFromColorado
    @DaveFromColorado Před rokem +1

    You posted this three years ago, and it is just as relevant and fascinating today. Absolutely fun to watch it. Thank you again for posting it.

  • @Oldbmwr100rs
    @Oldbmwr100rs Před 5 lety +7

    You never cease to amaze me with the recording formats and consumer electronics you come up with! Bravo on another amazing piece of lost history, those audio tracks should be put up for people to hear the bits and pieces of radio history.
    Thank you for showing us your wild collection!

  • @xray111xxx
    @xray111xxx Před 5 lety +34

    So a 60s music mono Server. 46 hours, that is excellent. Fun to see.

  • @dhamma58
    @dhamma58 Před 5 lety +5

    it is amazing that the rubber drives and belts are as intact (as seen on the video) since almost every bit of my rubber parts has given up the ghost or turned to gummy sludge...

  • @timbertown.vintage
    @timbertown.vintage Před 4 lety +24

    Amazing. If it had inputs for a turntable, you could've recorded all of your LPs to each track. Hundreds of LPs in one small box, and somewhat "portable". Pretty ingenious for its time.

    • @danielpenaofficial4186
      @danielpenaofficial4186 Před 3 lety +2

      It does on the back “record player”

    • @zipzip8239
      @zipzip8239 Před 2 lety

      it would only be 88 albums at the very most since it recorded 44 hrs.

    • @jamesbulick1897
      @jamesbulick1897 Před 2 lety +7

      @@zipzip8239 that is still a lot of albums, 88 albums on their own could possibly take up even more space than this machine including the player. Also, im guessing that that was more records than the normal person would have then.

  • @stevejordan7275
    @stevejordan7275 Před 3 lety +1

    Simply *brilliant.* Never stop.
    Thank you for taking the time to share it with us, and thank you especially for capturing that priceless, lost-to-the-world-until-now audio.

  • @slaughterround643
    @slaughterround643 Před 5 lety +14

    Millennial Techmoan scares me! I'm glad we have the Techmoan we have now - never change, Matt!

  • @victorvalium9099
    @victorvalium9099 Před 5 lety +50

    22 mins was aimed at one side of an LP at the time. Remember C45 cassettes?

    • @mikeos1
      @mikeos1 Před 5 lety +2

      Most vinyls, although I've got a few playing up to 25 minutes.

    • @victorvalium9099
      @victorvalium9099 Před 5 lety +5

      @@mikeos1 I think that time was more rare back in the 60s and 70s. I remember most of my punk albums would fit fine on a C45

    • @Stefan-
      @Stefan- Před 5 lety +1

      @@victorvalium9099 Yeah many classic pop/rock albums were 30-40 minutes back in the day.

    • @victorvalium9099
      @victorvalium9099 Před 5 lety

      @@Stefan- Why C90 then and not C100? Over 20 odd minutes and the quality, dynamic range and volume degrades. That's why 12 inch 45s excel due to being good in these respects.

    • @Stefan-
      @Stefan- Před 5 lety +1

      @@victorvalium9099 I honestly dont know what you are getting at, C90 would be great if the album is less than 45 minutes (one album on each side). C100 and even up to C180 has existed but were not as common i believe.

  • @heliumtrophy
    @heliumtrophy Před 3 lety +9

    Wow, that bit about Gunnar Nilsson's only F1 win is really special considering what happened to him. Terribly sad but quite evocative to listen to it as if you're transported in the moment.

  • @jockspice
    @jockspice Před 3 lety +2

    What an amazing bit of kit. Currently binge watching all of your videos - as a child of the 70s there are more than a few memories being brought back.

  • @jayaramg9411
    @jayaramg9411 Před 5 lety +14

    Another brilliant piece of quality equipment made to last. Thanks for educating us about such beautiful hifi equipments from the past !

  • @RCAvhstape
    @RCAvhstape Před 5 lety +36

    That thing has beautiful styling, very 60s Mad Men aesthetic.

  • @SpeakerFreak95
    @SpeakerFreak95 Před 5 lety +3

    That has to be one of the coolest thing I’ve ever seen on your channel, and you regularly blow my mind with cool things all the time.
    Well done.
    I gotta find one of those.

  • @ETC_Rohaly_USCG
    @ETC_Rohaly_USCG Před 2 lety

    Thank you Mat!
    I’ve been binging on this channel for weeks now, and love the flashback to my childhood in the ‘80s...
    My Grandfather was a Broadcaster in Los Angeles, CA from the 50’s to 80’s on a Classical station (KFAC-92.3MHz) and I grew up with a lot of similar technology because he loved it.
    Cheers mate! Keep the content coming!

  • @MrUlski
    @MrUlski Před 5 lety +8

    This device belongs in a design museum- I really love the look of it.

  • @HouseNuova500
    @HouseNuova500 Před 5 lety +9

    Wow, that recording of the results of the 1977 Belgian Grand Prix ! Excellent ! Unforgettable for the year, with the 6-wheeled Tyrell !

  • @vinylspell7179
    @vinylspell7179 Před 4 lety +9

    Caution. Low Space: Please Buy another Music center (I love this kind of work that you made. Genius!)

    • @ajax700
      @ajax700 Před 4 lety +1

      You would overwrite old tracks. Like you do with cassettes.

  • @aliasdandavisofficial
    @aliasdandavisofficial Před 5 lety

    I've only been following this channel for about 6 months or so. I've enjoyed everything so far, but this was truly amazing.

  • @jonathanyork8977
    @jonathanyork8977 Před 5 lety +26

    That Kenny Everett recording could be the only one in existence. Amazing! I love your videos, really interesting. By the way, I still have a working Akai 4000DS reel to reel!

  • @PituDituOfficial
    @PituDituOfficial Před 5 lety +7

    That F1 coverage was so breathtaking. A true time capsule from the 70s.

  • @olafelsberry9271
    @olafelsberry9271 Před 4 lety +39

    That's a beautiful dinosaur. I love seeing old technology like this

  • @alexwright7666
    @alexwright7666 Před 4 lety +8

    Thanks for this - a great find and makes fascinating viewing! One of my favourites from you sir!

  • @SilverfoxJB
    @SilverfoxJB Před 5 lety +28

    great to hear Kenny Everett, a genius of the radio

  • @butters_147
    @butters_147 Před 5 lety +4

    @27:22 LOL! That's brilliant Mat. Almost spit out my coffee when I saw that.
    I'm a HUGE Motorsports fan and hearing the results to the 1977 Belgian GP (our recently passed legend Niki Lauda came second and went on to win the world championship that year) was pretty cool if you ask me. Like you were saying about the music chart listings being fascinating, I agree. Little slice of history on tape, very cool.
    Thanks for this as always Mat. You do great work! 👍

  • @Bobster986
    @Bobster986 Před 4 lety

    For years I have enjoyed your unique electronic reviews, modern and historical. Please keep them coming!

  • @jeremyusbourne6289
    @jeremyusbourne6289 Před 4 lety +1

    I love this video Mat. Great videos as I've been watching your channel for years. Keep up the great work Kieran from Blackpool.

  • @TimmyJoe633
    @TimmyJoe633 Před 5 lety +13

    That was fascinating seeing that huge tape working inside, never realized how many contenders the compact cassette had before it took the lead as an audio standard.

  • @MarkHyde
    @MarkHyde Před 5 lety +17

    Amazing audio time capsule - cool video - thanks Techmoan - always original and as comprehensive as possible.

  • @Christopher-N
    @Christopher-N Před 5 lety +53

    (4:46) You mean, it comes in either *Lindybeige,* or *LGR* wood grain.

    • @avacado6399
      @avacado6399 Před 4 lety +1

      Christopher Noel a truly exceptional comment I commend you

    • @Christopher-N
      @Christopher-N Před 4 lety +1

      @@maxwelsh6121: Nikolas Lloyd, known on CZcams as *Lindybeige* due do his iconic beige shirts with the rounded off collars, rose to prominence for his "Rants" videos... e.g. how torches in movies are clean burning and illuminate a room... the impracticality of fire arrows. He also has a number of videos on historical topics... Why British officers don't duck... anecdotes on the Cromwell tank... how Hannibal defeated the Roman army. Definitely visit the *Lindybeige* channel if you haven't already done so.

    • @Christopher-N
      @Christopher-N Před 4 lety

      @@maxwelsh6121: I forgot to mention... there is a place where you can play paintball... in a tank! Yes, a driveable tank that shoots paintballs, and it's one of the places Lloyd kindly uploaded a video about. Here's the link... czcams.com/video/hk8jsxdgAXo/video.html

    • @Christopher-N
      @Christopher-N Před 4 lety

      @@maxwelsh6121: Thank you, that does sound like something that interests me. I will take a look. Those channels are *Shadiversity* and *Laird's Lair* ?

    • @RobRidleyLive
      @RobRidleyLive Před 4 lety +1

      @@Christopher-N Back in my youth, I once help marshal a paintball grudge match between the sales teams of Kimberly Clarke and Scott bathroom tissue. Did you know that pistol whipping occurred during paint ball?

  • @oc2phish07
    @oc2phish07 Před 4 lety

    Only chanced on your channel today and I am already totally hooked on what you have done. Brilliant stuff. Oddly enough, I was around in the 1960s (Born in 1948) but I don't recall EVER seeing this machine, or hearing about it, before today. Fascinating.

  • @SmithMrCorona
    @SmithMrCorona Před 5 lety +108

    Unremarkable exterior? It's quite beautiful, really.

    • @doomngloom9088
      @doomngloom9088 Před 5 lety +7

      I would agree in that I love the look of old electronics, but it has the fairly standard look of a mid to late 60s HiFi component

  • @toyfreaks
    @toyfreaks Před 5 lety +126

    Reminds me of when my brother-in-law bought a 200 disc CD player!

    • @pjf222
      @pjf222 Před 5 lety +11

      I have on of those, it's made by Sony

    • @EberKlaushartinger
      @EberKlaushartinger Před 5 lety +9

      There is also a 400-Disc-Model i think.

    • @kevinr.3542
      @kevinr.3542 Před 5 lety +12

      Just saw one at salvation army for $20

    • @jackmcsween1334
      @jackmcsween1334 Před 5 lety

      Would love a pic please.

    • @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka
      @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka Před 5 lety +2

      @@jackmcsween1334 its big black box inside in vertical position you can put 200 disks and then arm picks cd up and plays

  • @indiana2096
    @indiana2096 Před 4 měsíci +1

    WOW, a real time capsule, there may be some very rare recordings that exist nowhere else on a tape like that! Thanks for the interesting videos, I am learning so much, a history lesson never taught in school!

  • @dog2man1994
    @dog2man1994 Před 4 lety +69

    "I'm going to have to do it in reel time." I bet you didn't even know you made a pun.

  • @maciejrataj4255
    @maciejrataj4255 Před 5 lety +9

    As a linguist I think it's brilliant to hear British radio announcers and DJs from the past and observe the way the Conservative RP of Lord Reith's BBC gave way to the accents you can hear on the radio today.

  • @korndogz69
    @korndogz69 Před 5 lety +33

    I imagine there's collectors, or someone into radio history that would pay a large sum for one of those with radio recordings from the 70s.

  • @CL-yp1bs
    @CL-yp1bs Před 3 lety

    HOLY CRAP, this is one of the coolest ones yet on this channel!! WOW its like time traveling!

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher Před rokem +1

    That 22 minute length is so weird. I really wish we knew why they chose it.
    Such a cool device. I was blown away seeing the 4" wide tape. Thanks for another great video.

  • @an1_uk
    @an1_uk Před 5 lety +13

    25:52 the tune in the background is Mike Oldfield - Guilty.

  • @UD503J
    @UD503J Před 5 lety +64

    RIP Niki Lauda. That was a fun time capsule to listen to.

    • @muddshshshark
      @muddshshshark Před 5 lety +7

      Nilsson entered 32 Formula One Grand Prix races, qualifying for all of them. He won the 1977 Belgian Grand Prix at Zolder while driving for Team Lotus.

    • @PhilipvanderMatten
      @PhilipvanderMatten Před 4 lety +2

      Do we know already who finished no. 6?

    • @PatricioGarcia1973
      @PatricioGarcia1973 Před 4 lety

      Yes, it was great to listen to it. If you grew up,on the time F1 races were on the radio since TV was very expensive. Brought back memories

    • @wyattroncin941
      @wyattroncin941 Před 4 lety +1

      Hearing the comment about Ronnie Peterson's six wheeled Tyrrell in third was interesting. You know it drove in races and was a good car for a time, but hearing it reach the podium really sends the fact home.

    • @mojoblues66
      @mojoblues66 Před 3 lety

      @@PhilipvanderMatten Strietzel Stuck. Hunt finished 7th.

  • @jporritt
    @jporritt Před rokem +1

    One of the most mind boggling bits of old tech you’ve shown, given the implications of when it was produced and what it could record.

  • @outsdr
    @outsdr Před 3 lety

    Of all your videos and devices, this one fascinates me the most.

  • @joeblow8593
    @joeblow8593 Před 5 lety +6

    This is by far, the most interesting item you ever reviewed (and you have reviewed some really great stuff by you over the years). Those recordings are a treasure and they are priceless. I wish I could hear all of it without any restrictions. Now I understand from watching various videos that the BBC is looking for old material that they "WIPED" (or never recorded). As you probably are well aware, the BBC has uncovered previously thought "WIPED" TV (and radio) broadcasts from collectors and various other sources. Do consider, if you want. Making copies at your leisure and then donating some or all of the BBC stuff to the BBC (but keep the originals for yourself). Again, thank you for showing this and this is your best and most interesting item so far. Thanks from the U.S.

    • @ericd7709
      @ericd7709 Před 3 lety

      Some of these would be nice!
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lost_BBC_episodes

  • @rayceeya8659
    @rayceeya8659 Před 5 lety +23

    It's more like like a 1960s Tivo than an i-pod. I-pods never let you record live radio.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl Před 5 lety

      We seem to be going backwards with that feature. Sony made a number of |MP3 players with that feature but dropped it. Pure made two radios (Bug and Evoke 3) that had a full EPG to allow you to set up recordings to the SD card (SDHC isn't supported as it hadn't been invented at the time of release) but haven't made anything as good since.

  • @johnmichaelrichards
    @johnmichaelrichards Před rokem +1

    3" and 4" 'Large Format" width tape was used on a few multi-track recorders in studios between the 1970s to late 1980s before being superseded by wide format PCM digital multi-track format. The 3" and 4" width multi-track tape was considerably more expensive than the 1/4", 1/2", 1" and 2" tapes. This would push up production costs still further so 72 guineas was a steal.

  • @johnm3152
    @johnm3152 Před 4 lety +1

    Glad the algorithm put you in my feed. What a wonderful channel. Great gizmo, surprised the magnetic tape survived. Cheers!

  • @MrButtonpresser
    @MrButtonpresser Před 5 lety +46

    I'm sure Techmoan actually invents and builds these things himself! Surely, there are no more formats to be presented ; )

  • @DarkPuIse
    @DarkPuIse Před 5 lety +65

    That Seychelles coup can be dated to June 1977, so between that and the Kenny Everett recordings, whoever had this machine originally used it for quite some time.
    Add me to the list of people really hoping to hear all of the unique treasures on these recordings someday!

    • @CARLiCON
      @CARLiCON Před 5 lety +6

      '77 was also the year Gunnar Neilsen won the Belgian Gran Prix in the JPS car

    • @polygondwanaland8390
      @polygondwanaland8390 Před 4 lety

      It's quite an impressive machine. 63 LPs playing automatically is a library you couldn't really surpass until the iPod.

  • @NigelDraycott
    @NigelDraycott Před 5 lety +9

    How extraordinary, listening to Kenny Everett on Radio from the past.

  • @cheshirecat1595
    @cheshirecat1595 Před rokem +1

    Fascinating and another excellent video. Always a joy to watch you. Thank you.

  • @NytFoxFurry
    @NytFoxFurry Před 5 lety +5

    This was a very interesting video. It's amazing how much these beautiful pieces of engineering can tell us about ourselves. Honestly my favorite part was at the end hearing about Gunnar Nilssons famous Zolder Grand Prix win.

  • @d.aardent9382
    @d.aardent9382 Před 5 lety +3

    Loved to see the interior, I was fascinated by old electronics my uncle had in his workshop, its how I got interested in how things really work and I later apprenticed with my granduncle and studied horology.
    But I always liked how all those old radio and playback equipment had such big heavy levers,springs and big heavy steel reels and drives in the 60s and 70s.

  • @jrsergii1
    @jrsergii1 Před 3 lety

    That audio from the 1977 Belgian Grand Prix is just priceless!!! So many names from legendary drivers such as Hunt, Lauda, Scheckter, Andretti...
    What a nice channel this is btw

  • @SkyChaserCom
    @SkyChaserCom Před 4 lety +2

    Amazing. Your channel is so informative and educational. Basically a museum! Keep up the good work.

  • @badlarry172
    @badlarry172 Před 5 lety +17

    one of the best channels on CZcams, by far
    TA

  • @Nookerz
    @Nookerz Před 5 lety +8

    Damn... I used to listen to Kenny Everett as a kid on Capital Radio 194 when I lived over there as a kid.
    I’ll never forget the “Worlds Worst Wireless Show”.

  • @ronkraaijkamp
    @ronkraaijkamp Před 6 měsíci +1

    I used to own such a device. But only the recoder/player. Loved it.

  • @drewdemien481
    @drewdemien481 Před 4 lety

    this is a bit tangetial of a comment, but, I absolutely adore what you are doing on CZcams...thank so much for revisiting so many older technologies...i was class of 1986 and took 3 years of electronics classes...and so many ive never seen. its nice of you to play electronic archivist.
    thanks!

  • @thenovicesretroreview7841

    I love when techmoan does videos on tape formats. Because I personally think that magnetic tape is one of the most interesting type of formats. Mainly because it went in so many directions. Like reel to reel, or this thing he showcases in the video, are cartridges. It seems like every tape format had its own story, and style, and that’s why it’s so interesting.

  • @World_Theory
    @World_Theory Před 5 lety +222

    You know… With the so called “tape” being as wide as it is, I think it needs a different name… How about: Audio Scroll?

    • @benjaminmiddaugh2729
      @benjaminmiddaugh2729 Před 5 lety +7

      It's still a tape, just a really wide one. Just because all the tapes we normally think of as such tend to be narrow doesn't mean we need to rename the same type of thing that happens to be out of the ordinary. It's a nice attempt, though. If you want another alternative name, ribbon would fit, too.

    • @World_Theory
      @World_Theory Před 5 lety +17

      Benjamin Middaugh,
      If you look at the Etymology of the word “Tape”, it has its roots in a word that could mean ribbon. But I suppose that morphologically (referring the the field of mathematics), a tape and a scroll are the same thing.
      Although, now that I think about morphology, in relation to tapes, I can't help but imagine a magnetically encoded tape in the shape of a morpheus strip. Gives a new definition to “single sided tape”.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 Před 5 lety +10

      @@World_Theory Magnetoband. So much a better name

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt Před 5 lety +10

      How about calling it "If it breaks, you're screwed!" lol

    • @DTD110865
      @DTD110865 Před 4 lety +3

      I immediately thought of the old Edison Cylinder records.
      BTW, I'd love to get one of those adapters that was attached to it.

  • @numptienumptie
    @numptienumptie Před 2 lety

    Fantasic quality! Discovering old content like that reminds me of watching old VHS tapes in the background whilst doing uni work back in the late 80s- an old recording or two would re-appear at the end of the movies. I've still got a couple of bin bags of tapes to digitize adverts etc.

  • @Bakamoichigei
    @Bakamoichigei Před 4 lety +5

    What an outstanding example of a technological oddity! The recordings sound so good, too. It's rather a shame that it was superseded by the compact cassette, which doesn't sound anywhere near as good...though obviously this format had limited applications, given its formfactor. Great choice of clip for the end btw, mention of the six-wheeled Tyrrell P34 really ties the recording to the era.

  • @RetroRelixRestorer
    @RetroRelixRestorer Před 5 lety +32

    Just...WOW. An amazing historic bit of kit 👍

  • @THX-vx8vm
    @THX-vx8vm Před 5 lety +4

    I'm always amazed when you present a video of a new audio or video format that you have found.

  • @ste93italy
    @ste93italy Před 5 lety +1

    This really fascinated me, you are doing a beautiful thing with this type of video. I follow you from years from Italy. My congratulations.

  • @brandvegnz7925
    @brandvegnz7925 Před 4 lety +1

    It has been a long time since I watched Techmoan. You have upped the game on video production and still bring out great content. Thank you. I am back for some videos.

  • @LeeBondo
    @LeeBondo Před 5 lety +58

    @ 18:42 you can clearly see that Valvo capacitors rule...over 50 years old and still not leaked! Wish my Sega GameGear could say the same!

    • @amnril
      @amnril Před 5 lety +1

      Sega GameGear caps are the worst of the worst !

    • @danmackintosh6325
      @danmackintosh6325 Před 5 lety +1

      Any '90s SMD electrolytics are terrible for leaking, the digital-era equivalent to Hunt's waxies (or Sprague Black Beauties/Elmenco short-o-matics, if you're American) but there's no saying those Valvo's aren't leaky in the electrical sense, lossy, shorted or wide open. That could be the reason for the lighting issue although I doubt it. And at least they have a chance at being functional/formed-up as they still have their innards where they were supposed to be.

    • @ruikazane5123
      @ruikazane5123 Před 4 lety

      Yeah...how low could we go?

  • @lactobacillusprime
    @lactobacillusprime Před 5 lety +11

    Absolutely love the design language used in this Schaub Lorenz 5001 Music Centre. :)

  • @otsku00
    @otsku00 Před 3 lety

    Hearing the F1 news in the end was so good. It just made my day. I just like to experience the past. Keep up the good work.

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool Před 3 lety

    I completely missed this video. What a machine. You do find some great stuff some of which I remember. This one, I've never even heard of it before. Thanks.