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  • @simontomlinson6484
    @simontomlinson6484 Pƙed 2 lety +52

    54 Bradford fans and 2 Lincoln fans died. I'm a Lincoln fan- one of our stands is named the Stacey/West after the two Lincoln fans who died. I knew Bill West. Every year, a memorial wreath is placed in the centre circle on the nearest home game date to the date of the fire. 35 years later, we don't forget and never will. Awful awful day. RIP to all those who died.

    • @ianjackson1674
      @ianjackson1674 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      Amen Simon. I was far away at the time, but as a Lincoln man, it still hit home, and still does.

  • @andyrjs
    @andyrjs Pƙed 2 lety +65

    I never thought I would see you reviewing this. I was there in the stand that burnt down as a 16 year old. The stand was split into seating at the back and a standing area at the front. Fortunately I was at the front next to the pitch. There was a high wall to climb over but no problem for a young person. The heat from half way across the pitch from the fire was incredible, I can still remember it now. There is a memorial service every year which I try to attend.
    This video is respectfully done but it doesn't convey the speed that the fire spread. It was a few minutes. You can see the real time footage and it is scary.
    As well as the TV footage, there was a live radio broadcast from a guy who was in a position in the roof of that stand.

    • @chriscjad
      @chriscjad Pƙed 2 lety +10

      Wow respect to you Andy. One of the lucky ones!

    • @andyrjs
      @andyrjs Pƙed 2 lety +8

      @@chriscjad Thanks Chris but I did nothing more than escape. The fire started at the opposite end to where me and my mate were stood so we had time. We helped an older guy over the wall and then quickly left to find a phone box to ring home.
      As we left the ground a car pulled up and a woman said her son was in the ground and did we know what was going on. We assured her everybody got out OK - we genuinely believed it. We didn't know about the locked turnstiles at the back. I often wonder if her son was OK. He probably was because most people were in other stands but I do wonder.

    • @andyrjs
      @andyrjs Pƙed 2 lety

      The radio commentary conveys the rapidness of what happened: czcams.com/video/DkTFG9c1QfY/video.html

    • @chrissmith3215
      @chrissmith3215 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      I was there too as a 14 year old. Like Andy I was on the terracing at the front of the stand. It's often referred to as the forgotten tragedy. But not so in Bradford

    • @chriscjad
      @chriscjad Pƙed 2 lety +4

      I vividly remember watching the whole thing on TV as a kid. Glad to hear you both made it out of there ok!

  • @desbyrne1256
    @desbyrne1256 Pƙed 2 lety +26

    I was in Wales on an outward bound course (city kids canoeing, mountain climing etc.) Part of the character building was standing up with all the peope on the course and reading the news. This was the story i had to read out and it has stuck with me still nearly 40 years later. The silence from all was chilling. Great channel Fella. keep up the great work.

  • @bluesilvahalo3576
    @bluesilvahalo3576 Pƙed 2 lety +37

    I remember watching this on tv as it happened, it just started as a small fire but the cameras kept going back to it and it was clear it was escalating rapidly. I'll never forget seeing a policeman on the pitch with his hair on fire. From start to finish was just horrifying.

    • @allisonnancholas9620
      @allisonnancholas9620 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      I saw it live on TV as well and that image of the policeman has also stayed with me all this time - poor souls

    • @jackiefax2315
      @jackiefax2315 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I was watching on TV too. I remember the commentator noticing when the fire started and how quickly it escalated.
      I live about 10 miles away and been to Valley Parade a number of times. There are always scarves, pictures etc at the memorial. The memory is very much alive in Bradford.

    • @dianepiggott1083
      @dianepiggott1083 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I was going to say the same, I couldn't believe my eyes just remember the policeman trying to put the flames out on his head with his bare hands.

    • @kristymac3236
      @kristymac3236 Pƙed rokem +1

      I remember that too and it still has an effect on me, whenever I watch a film and they have someone on fire it brings it back

    • @adamhenry2744
      @adamhenry2744 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +1

      That policeman was Constable David Britton. He entered the burning stand, with the roof collapsing in around him and burning tar falling down, to help a man he saw struggling to escape over a wall. He pulled him out by the waist and dragged him to the side of the pitch where they tried to save him as flames began to engulf him. I don't know if the man survived. The heat caused Britton's hair to catch fire and he had to leave the area, returning shortly after despite severe burn injuries to continue providing assistance. He was awarded the Queen's Gallantry Medal, along with three other policemen and two civilians. Over 50 police and civilians received bravery medals for their actions that day.

  • @desmondobrien68
    @desmondobrien68 Pƙed 2 lety +15

    I will never forget the fact it was live on TV
    Truly shocking scenes

  • @petedenton9434
    @petedenton9434 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    I remember this well - I was in high school and one of our teachers was there with his elderly dad and his young son. He was faced with the tough choice of which one to help out of the stand first. Thankfully all three managed to get out of the stand unharmed.
    I now have strong associations with Bradford and many friends there. A tradition has become established of remembering the 56 people who died in the fire, every year on the anniversary of the tragedy.

  • @andrewcoates6641
    @andrewcoates6641 Pƙed 2 lety +8

    I’m from Bradford and I was 24 years old on the day of the fire. Although I myself had no interest in the game, I had driven my father and my brother in law to the match and made arrangements with them to pick them up after the game so they didn’t need to find parking. For various reasons they had to go into a different stand than they would normally have (Main Stand), so they were both spared the worst of the fire’s effects but they were left with a first degree burn on the right hand side of their faces and hands and the fabric of their clothes was singed on the right hand side too. I returned to try to find them , which I did fortunately as dad had caught a lung full of smoke and he would not have been able to get much further than they did. He lived another 20 years afterwards but rarely ever spoke about the events of that day. One good thing that came from the fire was the development of the fire treatment facility of the local hospital which is now a world leading unit treating fire victims from all over the country and the staff also are sent to major fire incident’s in other countries around the world to consult.

  • @Brummie31
    @Brummie31 Pƙed 2 lety +12

    I remember watching this final on the television with my family. At first, we really didn't think it was going to be so bad. After a while, it became obvious that this was going to be much worse. We couldn't stop watching, it was still being televised. It was truly horrific, something that we can never forget. God bless all the people who suffered that day at Valley Parade.

  • @dongillan5287
    @dongillan5287 Pƙed 2 lety +14

    As a long standing City fan, I was in the stand on the day. The only reason I didn't have my fiance with me on the day was I couldn't get her a ticket. The seats were divided into blocks, seven across and two down. In the rear section a low wooden wall surrounded each block with an entrance at the rear and centre stairway, not so in the front section where the blocks were seperated by stairways at each side (except for the directors block in the center which was walled). A gangway running the length of the stand separated the front and rear sections. Unusually, entrance was from the back at the highest level, and the seats reached by going DOWN the stairways. I had a seat in the front row of the rear section in the centre (D). Luckily, when the fire broke out, I chose to go forward by climbing over the low wall in front of me into the centre gangway. There was no panic at first, no one really knew what was happening, just waiting patiently for the queue to move. But then a ball of flame and smoke began rolling along the length of the stand under the wooden roof directly towards where I was standing and we knew we had to get out. I started climbing over the backs of the rows of seats in the front section until I reached the front wall beyond which was about a six foot drop to the standing area in front of the stand. As I was climbing over a hand from below grabbed me and I was literally thrown several feet down the terracing behind the policeman that the hand belonged to. I looked back and he was doing the same to everyone that appeared at the front of the burning stand, clearing the way as quickly as possible for the next. I retreated across the pitch and even from the far touchline the heat was unbearable. I wasn't hurt at all, just a hole burned in the elbow of my jacket where some burning tar paper from the roof had stuck to it.

    • @burnbrae6948
      @burnbrae6948 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Harrowing Don. I remember watching it live on TV in horror and utter sadness knowing that people were not going to make it out alive. It is heart warming to hear from someone who did.

    • @shayneramsay1388
      @shayneramsay1388 Pƙed rokem +1

      Its crazy what a split decision can do, thankfully your decision was the correct one i know over the years you would relive that decision in your subconscious. We are all grateful you are hear to tell your story about it.

  • @Louisewolf
    @Louisewolf Pƙed 2 lety +14

    My dad recently told me we are related to one of the victims, Moira hodgson. I haven't seen this footage since. May they all rest in peace. Xx

  • @keithdelaney3728
    @keithdelaney3728 Pƙed rokem +2

    I’m a Bradford fan and was sat on the back row behind where the fire started on that terrible day. I was 32 at the time and had my 9 year old son with me.
    We saw the commotion and the smoke and decided to go to the back of the stand to the fire exits but they were chained and locked we tried several but all chained. It was now to late to go towards the pitch as the whole of the roof was ablaze, I knew there was a tiny souvenir shop near me and thank god I found it. This door was locked but I easily kicked it open then over the counter and kicked another door open and we were safely on the street outside the ground.
    I’m nearly 70 now but both my son and me regularly go to matches we’re still a topsy turvy club we’ve had some great promotions even managing to get into the top division for 2 seasons in 1999 although we’re back in the bottom (4th) tier of the football league. This year we have great expectations of gaining promotion but whatever happens the City of Bradford and all our fans will never forget the 56 fans who sadly perished due to that terrible fire.

  • @kaineash
    @kaineash Pƙed 2 lety +12

    I'm from Bradford, now living in California. I remember every minute of that.

    • @matthewjamison
      @matthewjamison Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Not surprised you split. I lost all respect for the people of Bradford when I found out 25% of the 500,000 population was Muslim & they were preying on your kids. Westminster tried a few times to inflict them on us in N.Ireland. That didn't work out too well. We love our children

    • @chrisboult6610
      @chrisboult6610 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@matthewjamison not just Bradford

    • @matthewjamison
      @matthewjamison Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Evikeuklavier It needs purged by the sounds of it man.

    • @matthewjamison
      @matthewjamison Pƙed 2 lety

      @@chrisboult6610 Fuck that man. Westminster tried unloading loads of Syrian refugees into Belfast. But the people wouldn't have any of it & all the private landlords were threatened & told if they like their properties & safety, they'll rent them to people from the area & Westminster had to backtrack lol

  • @generichuman2044
    @generichuman2044 Pƙed 2 lety +29

    I've seen the video of the incident and it is one of the most horrific things I have ever seen. It's difficult to imagine just how quickly a fire can spread. Within 5 minutes it turned from a celebration to 56 people being killed.
    I will never forget the image of a man running around on fire while fans and police officers desperately tried to save him.
    RIP to those 56 innocent souls and I hope their families have recovered well.

    • @thaitim007
      @thaitim007 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Yes i saw that

    • @ryanbotha9775
      @ryanbotha9775 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Easy to imagine when wood and tar are involved.

    • @DEWDLES
      @DEWDLES Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Yes I always think of that poor man . It was truly horrific.

    • @wendacox9105
      @wendacox9105 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Yes I remember seeing that poor man on fire ..it was the most graphic awful thing I had ever seen I was a teenager at the time but that imagine is still in my mind ..RIP 🙏 poor loves

    • @thaitim007
      @thaitim007 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@wendacox9105 just remember he rests in peace now. I saw that. I have seen similar in real life at a car accident. Shocking at the time. Unforgettable. But to make peace with it, remind them to rip. It was due to sad factors beyond your control.

  • @timberwolf5211
    @timberwolf5211 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    After this tragedy, you would've thought that lessons could, and should have been learned, but they sadly weren't, as it was only two short years later, in 1987, that the London Underground station of Kings Cross, had a major fire. That started from a dropped lit match, on to a wooden escalator, which in turn, set fire to the accumulated grease filled trash, which, like at Bradford, fuelled the fire further, which then turned it into a major blaze, where, sadly 31 people were tragically killed.

  • @jamescockings6852
    @jamescockings6852 Pƙed 2 lety +9

    My most vivid memory of this was seeing a man engulfed in flames wandering onto the pitch and around 10 people taking him to the ground and trying to beat down the flames with their coats and jackets and also a policeman leading someone to safety not realising his hair was on fire.

  • @ddaddy1775
    @ddaddy1775 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    I'm a Bradford City fan and this disaster was an accident waiting to happen. There was so much rubbish built up under the stand that it could have happened at any time. It just so occured on a day when we were celebrating our promotion in front of a large crowd.
    Check out a video called "Returning to the terraces 31 years on" which is about a elderly gentleman who's last game was the Bradford fire, but finally goes back to watch a game over three decades later. It's really heartwarming!

    • @spamvicious
      @spamvicious Pƙed 2 lety +1

      The stand was due to be demolished after the game, it was just a horrible tragedy.

    • @moraymac2922
      @moraymac2922 Pƙed rokem +1

      A horrible tragedy but a preventable one. The council had alerted the club to the build up of debris under the stand years earlier. A newspaper dated from 1968 was found in the ruins of the destroyed stand. Not an accident - preventable.

  • @karlaro2460
    @karlaro2460 Pƙed 2 lety +13

    The reason the fire crews arrived on site so quickly was because they were watching the match live on tv when they witnessed the fire breakout, they were already on way to the scene before a call was even placed

    • @screamingplastination5991
      @screamingplastination5991 Pƙed rokem

      Wrong.
      The fire crews, were taking part in an exercise on Canal Rd, a few hundred yards away. (Downhill)
      The call to them was requested multiple times before they were actually called and they arrived far too late.

    • @michaelclayton960
      @michaelclayton960 Pƙed rokem

      Also wrong because lower league matches were never televised live in those times.

    • @screamingplastination5991
      @screamingplastination5991 Pƙed rokem

      @@michaelclayton960 it went Live via satellite, as breaking news. But not as a Live game.

    • @michaelclayton960
      @michaelclayton960 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@screamingplastination5991 I know. I was responding to the original post from Karl.

  • @alans.2735
    @alans.2735 Pƙed 2 lety +8

    We still watch this at our fire lecture..The time it takes is still shocking. We remember the victims and their families with love and respect.

  • @davidbrooks960
    @davidbrooks960 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    I was a fire marshal at work and the training video included a clip of how fast this event happened. It showed in five minutes little smoke to a furnace, people were actually running while on fire! Sad sad day 😞

  • @sarahealey1780
    @sarahealey1780 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I have had to watch the live footage of this in fire training at work, it is truly horrific, I'm glad you only saw pictures and not the full video.

    • @Westcountrynordic
      @Westcountrynordic Pƙed 2 lety +2

      I've watched the full live footage as well before becoming a steward at then local football club

  • @trevmacc
    @trevmacc Pƙed 2 lety +8

    i remember watching this on tv, and just last week i was talking with some friends about it and now its on here, shows its not forgotten like a lot of disasters

  • @AshtonCarr-bl1rg
    @AshtonCarr-bl1rg Pƙed rokem +2

    I’m a Bradford fan this will be remembered by the fans forever

  • @douglasthompson296
    @douglasthompson296 Pƙed 2 lety +8

    Hi Joel, as others have said a wooden escalator at Kings Cross station London caught fire from all the combustible rubbish that had gathered over the years. That fire caused a high loss of life too (31). However, it brought about the removal of any wooden escalators and changes to fire fighting etc. RIP to all who lost their lives at Bradford and Kings X

    • @keelbyman
      @keelbyman Pƙed 2 lety +1

      The sad thing is all you hear after these disasters or social services tragedies is "Lessons will be learned". Unfortunately they never are â˜č

    • @JJfromPhilly67
      @JJfromPhilly67 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I remember the Kings Cross fire.

    • @douglasthompson296
      @douglasthompson296 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@keelbyman so absolutely true Peter

  • @anhistorian7255
    @anhistorian7255 Pƙed 2 lety +9

    That unfolded live on tv right in front of our eyes, as we had a sports magazine show called World of Sport at that time and they went over live to their reporter as the fire took hold. Watching someone running onto the pitch with his head on fire will stay with me forever.

    • @generichuman2044
      @generichuman2044 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Those poor fans and police officers tried so hard to save him. Absolutely horrific

    • @shithappens1975
      @shithappens1975 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Yeah that's the main image that has stuck with me, I was 10 years old watching with my dad. It was truly horrific.

    • @Spiklething
      @Spiklething Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Yeah me too, was at a friends house watching live. That image is also what I immediately think of when Bradford is mentioned.

    • @lyncohn9505
      @lyncohn9505 Pƙed 2 lety

      No it didnt, you saw a news report, the match wasnt on tv

    • @shithappens1975
      @shithappens1975 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@lyncohn9505 yeah it was, where do you think the footage came from?

  • @speedyreedy4878
    @speedyreedy4878 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I lived in the next town to Bradford and we received a few survivors for treatment at the hospital I worked ,extremely sad day,I’ve never been inside any stadium since.💕

  • @alansmithee8831
    @alansmithee8831 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    A'reyt Joel. I would normally say hello and I enjoy your reaction, but instead I appreciated this one and felt it appropriate to greet you in Yorkshire dialect.
    I was not at the ground, but still near enough to smell the people burning. I was among older friends who had kids at the game.
    I grew up in Manningham, which was the name of the rugby team that changed to become Bradford City.
    Back when the football team started the local woollen mills meant the area had millionaires. The FA Cup trophy they were presented had been made in the city the year they won it, by a jewelers near the Bradford Wool Exchange, the "Wall Street" of world wool trading.
    The invention of modern fabrics killed the city's earnings, hence the lack of investment all round. The other professional football team Bradford (Park Avenue) had gone bust about a decade prior to these events. Their address in brackets had been added to distinguish them from City. They have reformed as a non-league team. There are videos of their demolished ground on CZcams.
    City are in the fourth tier of England's professional clubs, having got to the Premier League on local support about twenty years back. Not being able to maintain the money needed, they tumbled back down through the leagues by relegation, which may be new to US readers whose teams are franchises.
    The city's surviving rugby league club play at Odsal Stadium which once held around 100,000 people for a cup final replay, but had ended up in a similar dilapidated state. Bradford City played there for a while, but the emotional attachment to Valley Parade, especially after the fire, meant moving permanently was not an option that fans would accept. The rugby club later moved briefly to Valley Parade, but similarly their fans see their record breaking ground as part of club history, though having been league and cup winning twenty years ago, they also went bust, had to start again and temporarily moved to Dewsbury for ground improvement to be done.
    Bradford is poor, but vibrant. It has the fastest growing population of almost all the UK cities as immigrants can afford to live there and make a fresh start. It always had an eye on business and making money, but with people who were in no way posh and had no time for those who were or those who felt themselves upper class.
    One of the the big five supermarkets in UK was from Bradford, which used to be based about a mile from Bradford City, due to the value for money, no nonsense attitude of the local shoppers.
    The image elsewhere however was of a blue collar city and investment often bypassed it as a result.
    A better image used to be of industry and reliability. I have commented on channels that react to "Dad's Army" that they should watch "The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp" which has Bradford characters from early 20th century of this type. Most film characters from the area tend to be the century before due to the successful Bronte sisters' books from the area, which in another way can make for a backward looking view of Bradford.
    The Bradford area has about half a million people, most in what would otherwise be a picturesque bowl shaped Yorkshire Dale. You should look at some more cheerful views and perhaps go for a curry and for fish and chips if you visit.
    I keep asking US reactors, without success, to check out Yorkshire Tea adverts, including Sean Bean and Ripping Yarns, including "Eric Olthwaite" and "Golden Gordon". The latter is relevant to this video, but watch "Eric" first as they follow on and the black pudding would be relevant to your previous reactions. It is from Monty Python colleagues of John Cleese from Fawlty Towers, done about the same time.

  • @willrichardson1809
    @willrichardson1809 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    a week or so after it was followed by Hysel a different situation, however a crumbling stadium and currupt authorities allowed it to happen. Both could have been easily avoided with the right regulations in place..............85 was a bad year for Football.

  • @benkegg4419
    @benkegg4419 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Been to Bradford city many times with a colleague from work. They play a memorial game each season to pay respects to the lives lost. League 2 is where they currently play.

  • @cornishmaid9138
    @cornishmaid9138 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    We watched it unfold, it was traumatic to say the least. It’s still emotional to revisit, especially for the children. 😱😱😱

    • @lyncohn9505
      @lyncohn9505 Pƙed 2 lety

      You didnt watch it unfold as the match wasnt shown alive. The camers were there because the other team were being awarded the trophy after the game

  • @binkybuns462
    @binkybuns462 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Thank you for your reaction to this. Those that died deserve to be remembered. I remember watching this live and, as others have already said, some of the things we saw and heard have been cemented in my memories. The horror of that day can not be overstated. I would like to praise the police and those fans that tried their best to help. Many put their lives on the line to help others and many have them to thank for their lives. Also an honourable mention for the commentator John Helm who went from a sports commentator to a news reporter. His professionalism that day was outstanding under such horrifying circumstances. I always think of Herbert Morrison and the Hindenburg for some reason when I think of John Helm. Completely different and yet similar in that they kept going despite the horrors they were witnessing. Blessing to all involved.
    P.S. why does it always take a tragedy to state what is so blatantly obvious. 2 years after this we then had King's Cross, different place, same circumstances. I had to go to Kings Cross about a week after. I can still remember the smell to this day.

  • @stevenlawrie7819
    @stevenlawrie7819 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I remember watching it live on TV horrific :-(
    Rip lest we forget

  • @briwire138
    @briwire138 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I remember watching the live pictures coming through, seeing a policeman with his hair catching fire from the radiated heat. It was only when a poor old chap walked out onto the pitch on fire from head to foot that the pictures were cut. Most stadiums at the time were similar, wooden deathtraps.

    • @moraymac2922
      @moraymac2922 Pƙed rokem

      It was the build of debris underneath the wooden stand that acted as kindling for the fire. That debris had accumulated over decades and the club had been warned of the dangers posed.

  • @geekexmachina
    @geekexmachina Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I remember watching it on the news as a child. Regarding fire Extinguishers I think at the time they were not mandatory. Its also worth pointing out that fire and building regulations were less strict and as a result of this a lot of laws were created, and a lot of fire awareness came in. For example the laws about smoking began to change, this was also due to the Kings Cross subway fire of 1987 czcams.com/video/0iwkBwTYLEc/video.html . I work for a big paint company and fromerly a big plastic company as a chemist and Fire testing is taken very seriously in our products
    there were a handful of disasters in that period, Including the Hungerford massacre of 87, lockerbie plane bomb of 88
    Liverepool FC also suffered the Heysel Stadium Disaster of 85 as well. and thats without counting a number of serial killers.

  • @oldbill6396
    @oldbill6396 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I remember watching this live on TV and was shocked that the cameras were showing people on fire. I would imagine if anything like this happened today the broadcast would stop immediately.

  • @russellstanton7583
    @russellstanton7583 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I will NEVER forget seeing , live on TV , some poor soul walking as if on a country stroll, on the pitch , engulfed in flame. It was surreal and incomprehensible. Moments later a copper ran and knocked the burning fan to the ground , frantically trying to beat the flames. A vision that shall haunt me for ever...

  • @richardtaylor5289
    @richardtaylor5289 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    My brother was in that stand with many friends. He saw the smoke and decided to get out. By the time he ran to the other side of the stadium he said that it was like being too close to a bonfire. Really frightening

  • @melbeasley9762
    @melbeasley9762 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I remember watching it live on TV in utter disbelief.

  • @beakybuzzard
    @beakybuzzard Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I was on my way back from Bradford Ice rink when this took place, drove right pass the stadium as the fire took hold, was a horrific thing to see, my thoughts went to all those inside

  • @lighterthief69
    @lighterthief69 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Memorial Stones are always so poignant because the names and ages of the lost tell the most human elemental losses with the clues they carry. Father with daughter and son, Grandfather and Grandmother with 2 sons and grandson, Father with twin sons..
    Massive kudos for tackling this vid and looking forward to your UK posts.... Big Love ......DT

  • @shoutinghorse
    @shoutinghorse Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Bradford City currently play in Football League 2 which is the 4th tier of the English football pyramid. They did manage to get promoted to the Premier League in the late 90's but only managed to stay there for two seasons before being relegated.

  • @lynnemacfadzean4855
    @lynnemacfadzean4855 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I remember this every year because it happened on my 30th birthday so every year I say a small prayer for those who perished!!!

  • @alfredbearman396
    @alfredbearman396 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I remembered seeing this it still brings tears to my eyes.

  • @paultordoff7417
    @paultordoff7417 Pƙed rokem

    I went to school with Rupert and Felix Greenwood. I remember going back to school on the Monday after the fire and the headmaster telling us in assembly . We had a 2 minute silence and the whole school was in shock. Their father also died,it was just so sad. I went to first match after they rebuilt the stand. The England team came to play Bradford city as a tribute to the 56 that had died.

  • @QuarkTheMagnificent
    @QuarkTheMagnificent Pƙed 2 lety +2

    This was the year before my son was born - I remember it well and the horror unfolding before our eyes at an unspeakable rate of knots. The starkest memory for me being that of a man running onto the pitch and fully on fire - horrific. As the days went by and the victims were identified by name in a surreal way the tragedy became all the more real and all the more personal even for those who would have never known the victims personally. May they all RIP and may this never happen again.

  • @DidrickNamtvedt
    @DidrickNamtvedt Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Horrible disaster. I was 4 years old when this happened and though I'm sure this was mentioned on the news here in Norway, I was too little and occupied with my things (as 4 year olds typically are) to take note of it but learning about the disaster as an adult really saddens me and my heart goes out to the victims and their families. I've seen the video footage and it's crazy how quickly the fire spread and how the chaos on the pitch ensued. I can see how the footage would serve to demonstrate by the fire department how quickly things can take a turn for the worse during a fire. The new stadium is hopefully equipped with everything needed to stop something like this from happening again.

  • @lindafirth1562
    @lindafirth1562 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I was working in Bradford and some of my managers were there on the day. I watched the scene on TV. "The cameras kept rolling" and broadcasting. The scene was so upsetting - it showed so many people on fire, running for their lives. It affected me deeply and I'm no football fan. So tragic and sad but also an horrific scene. The worst of the footage isn't shown anywhere now. The whole City was in total shock. So much outpouring of love for those who suffered. It's still a huge part of Bradford's history.

  • @technickelnet
    @technickelnet Pƙed rokem

    I remember we were in the City Centre at the time. I could hear my parents talking about the smoke, and my dad was concerned that it was coming from Valley Parade. We finished our shopping and then headed home. Then my dad caught the news. A day I remember for all the wrong reasons. 6 years later I played at the new stadium.

  • @davem9208
    @davem9208 Pƙed rokem

    Great video and a good summary of the incident. I remember the day well although I was not at that game, I was actually at another game in England, between Birmingham City and Leeds United. Ironically, at this other game, there was a major disturbance/riot by some Leeds United fans, resulting in a wall at the stadium collapsing, in which a 15 year old boy was killed after being crushed by falling debris.
    Due to the coincidental timing of both incidents, the Bradford fire got virtually all the media coverage and, understandable as that was, a lot of people have never heard of the death at the other game.

  • @abbafan1972
    @abbafan1972 Pƙed rokem +1

    I remember this happening - it was really sad!

  • @AndrewJamesWilliams
    @AndrewJamesWilliams Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I was only about 6 when this happened but I still remember what happened.

  • @Chris_GY1
    @Chris_GY1 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    My aunt lost her uncle in this fire he was one of the Lincoln City supporters, she was interviewed by The Grimsby Evening Telegraph. I saw footage of this on tv from BBC national and local news and ITV national and local news. I was 10 years old at the time of this disaster happening. At this time Britain only had four tv channels, satellite television would start a number of years later and cable television would start number of years after that.

  • @daryllmoreton7131
    @daryllmoreton7131 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I was watching TV that day and it was extremely tragic, so many lives lost!

  • @roberthickton7732
    @roberthickton7732 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    It was difficult to click on a like button for such a tragic reaction.
    Tears running down my face.
    Bless all those who suffered.

  • @neilpickup237
    @neilpickup237 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I was working in Leeds at the time which is only a short distance from Bradford, and quite a few of my colleagues supported Bradford City, and we knew were regularly at their home matches.
    The following Monday was a very tense day as we waited for everyone to come to work.
    Fortunately everyone I worked with was safe, although one of them had suffered a little hair loss (and a ruined jacket) as the fire raged in the roof above him as he escaped with his young son.
    One I sat next to was also at the match, but was in a different stand, although he was visably shaken.
    Very little in the way of support or councelling back then, you just got on with it with the help of those around you.

  • @andywrong3247
    @andywrong3247 Pƙed rokem

    I remembered watching it live as a newsflash, I have also seen the start to finish in a health&safty video, is amazing how quickly it spread. My mate & I were leeds utd fans in early 1980s,even though I remained a leeds fan, my mate jumped ship to support Bradford that season, he luckily survived. He is still alive today and still follows Bradford. Bradford a few years later got into the top league but now I think they are in the third tear. Ist division, how ironic that both Hillsborough & Bradford disasters were in North of England Yorkshire.

  • @101steel4
    @101steel4 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I remember seeing that live on telly.
    The video is very disturbing. I can still remember the person still sitting in the stand đŸ˜Ș

  • @johnloony68
    @johnloony68 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I remember watching the footage of the fire on the TV evening news (I was 16 at the time), and it was horrendous to see (worse than the still photos in this video). The flames spread along the structure faster than people could run, hence the high death toll. One common theme about football stadiums at that time was that there was not as much money in the game, so clubs couldn't afford to renovate and build modern structures with higher standards. (You can see evidence of the lack of investment in footage of some old games of football where the pitch itself is churned up and muddy and irregular, because it hasn't been maintained properly). Now there is a whole lot more money in the whole industry, and one good thing is that the whole game of football in the UK has been transformed since the 1980s.
    Another football stadium disaster which I don't know much about (because I am not old enough to remember it) was the Ibrox disaster of 1971 in Glasgow, in which 66 people died in a crush.

  • @spamvicious
    @spamvicious Pƙed 2 lety +1

    life long city fan here. I was two when this happened. My dad was there with his friends and still can't talk about that day even know. My mum didn't know if my dad was alive until the next day due to there being no mobile phones around then. This video fails to mention that the stand was due to be demolished after this game. I want to give a special shout out to the pakistani community that lived around the ground and helped many survivors that day.

  • @dannycarter1966
    @dannycarter1966 Pƙed rokem

    Some of the badly burned were sent to Pinderfields hospital in Wakefield, 15 miles away, which at the time had a world class burns unit.
    Before the fire I had been to the ground with Barnsley FC in the away end (where the photographs were taken) the whole set up was an accident waiting to happen. I slipped and fell over as the gangways were covered in frost.

  • @W0rdsandMus1c
    @W0rdsandMus1c Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Joel you said "No fire extinguishers" when this happened it was unbelievable that you could smoke anywhere, pubs, restaurants, shops, cinemas, theatres, work, the list goes on, I couldn't get my head around the fact that people used to walk around clothes shops smoking, not only fire risk but covering the brand new clothes in smoke, it was all very normal back in the day, since the smoking in public places ban 2007 it takes me by surprise even seeing someone smoking in the street, everywhere is a lot safer now, thank goodness

    • @ryanbotha9775
      @ryanbotha9775 Pƙed 2 lety

      Nothing to do with smoking, and smoking is still common in restaurants and public places, get out more

    • @speleokeir
      @speleokeir Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Although the Grenfell Tower disaster shows such tragedies can still happen, especially where greed and dodgy companies are involved.

    • @W0rdsandMus1c
      @W0rdsandMus1c Pƙed 2 lety

      @@ryanbotha9775 What utter rubbish, if you are smoking in any public places in the UK you are doing it illegally, why do you presume I don't go out? I obviously don't go to the places you go to, I gave up smoking in 2007 because I wasn't having anyone telling me where I could smoke

    • @W0rdsandMus1c
      @W0rdsandMus1c Pƙed 2 lety

      @@speleokeir I agree, there are always exceptions to the rule

    • @ryanbotha9775
      @ryanbotha9775 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@W0rdsandMus1c so don't let anyone tell you, I don't..

  • @lilyliz3071
    @lilyliz3071 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I was in my house in Glasgow papering the lounge ,my dad came in to watch the football and I stopped to watch with him,I'll never forget how horrifying this was

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Usually, we react to some fun videos but this one really hits you hard.

  • @G1NZOU
    @G1NZOU Pƙed 2 lety

    As a fire marshal in a UK business, this is one of the incidents we cover whenever we have our training refresher course.
    People always think "why were fire exits locked" and "why no fire extinguishers" but no one actually thinks it's going to happen to them, I've had people swear at me for asking them not to block fire exits and I've seen people remove fire extinguishers from their designated places to prop open doors and such (another violation since propping open a fire door stops it doing its job to slow the spread of fire and smoke).
    Supposedly at the time the fire extinguishers were removed because people kept vandalising them, and the doors were locked to prevent people entering without tickets, but modern regulations has stopped that being a thing with better fire exits that are alarmed to prevent use as a sneaky entrance.

  • @reluctantheist5224
    @reluctantheist5224 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Thanks

  • @nicobyrne2774
    @nicobyrne2774 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I was there in stand my first ever match what a terrible day ! Didn’t think anybody had died until I got home my mum slapped me round face when I got home at 7pm she knew people had died ! Never forget! Love ❀ my club rip 56 X

  • @Maxtedsgarage
    @Maxtedsgarage Pƙed 2 lety

    I saw this from my bedroom window I was just a mile or so from the ground as the crow flies....such a shock as I had sat in those stands as a kid

  • @gdhukLONDON
    @gdhukLONDON Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I can remember the poor bloke walking across the pitch calm as anything on fire head to toe as if he was just out for a stroll. The full video is not nice to watch and so lucky even more did not lose their lives

  • @johnf8067
    @johnf8067 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    13:08 They then played in the third tier of English football, and now play in the 4th tier of English football

  • @ricewychrij
    @ricewychrij Pƙed 2 lety +2

    They've shown this in every work's Fire Safety course I've been on. It really is horrific. The guy that didn't even know his hair was on fire... just horrific

    • @paulguise698
      @paulguise698 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Hiya Ricey, my Dad done this as his fire safety course, the club should of been taken too court fined heavily and pay compensation to the victims families

  • @kh7cz
    @kh7cz Pƙed rokem

    I was a 25 year old EMT and Vol. Fireman at this time. All I could think when I watched this was "It is 1985 and these kind if fires aren't suppose to happen more." We have the technology and know how to prevent these kind of things. Overconfidence can be a killer.

  • @lorrainemackenzie5861
    @lorrainemackenzie5861 Pƙed rokem

    I wasn't there that day but saw the fire from a distance. It was surreal. I worked in the local Bradford Archives & over the years records of funerals & other investigations were housed with us. I listened to & read them all. I will never forget how harrowing they were . Bradford will never forget. Bradford city now play in the 2nd division & are managed by a legend Sparky Hughes, former Manchester United player. One day they'll return to greater heights. We will never forget the lost ones. Xx

  • @MrChris1533
    @MrChris1533 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I saw this live on TV i was only 8years old and i remember people running onto the pitch on fire in particular a man with his head on fire

  • @Lambchop2701
    @Lambchop2701 Pƙed rokem

    I was watching this match on TV at the time. I remember seeing the first flicker of a flame and within minutes it was completely ablaze. The speed was staggering. I sat motionless just staring in horror. It was just so shocking. I remember sobbing the next day when It transpired that people had died, trapped by the locked doors. I don’t think anyone realised initially that there were people trapped there. I still have a strong emotional memory of it and my stomach churns just watching this. Thank you for the respectful way you review these video’s. You are a very emotionally intelligent young man.

  • @williamoates1754
    @williamoates1754 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    It was quite common before this incident for rubbish ro accumulate under ancient wooden stands, espescially the lower division clubs. You can be sure things changed pretty quickly after this.

  • @mickyboy7586
    @mickyboy7586 Pƙed 2 lety

    I will never forget this day, I was at Hillsborough the sight of another terrible disaster a few years later. RIP

  • @davidrowlands441
    @davidrowlands441 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I remember it happening. Such a sad day.

  • @alderaanic1042
    @alderaanic1042 Pƙed rokem +1

    Imagine if they had perimiter fences like at Hillsborough the death toll would of been unimaginable.

  • @colinp2238
    @colinp2238 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    JPS there is a channel that I think will interest you about Scotland, Scotland History Tours. The videos are made by Bruce Fummey, half Scottish, half African. He covers many topics and events from Scottish history and combines them with visiting the actual sites. His videos are informative and amusing, very laid back and not too much like a history lesson from school. The man is a very nice man (I have met him personally) his approach is good and he certainly draws you in.

    • @alansmithee8831
      @alansmithee8831 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @Colin Paterson. I keep commenting the same as this and have on here, despite being a Bradfordian. I kept telling Bruce in comments not to give up on the UK as Yorkshire folk were more like Scots than southerners. Next thing he turns up doing a video in Doncaster, near where I now live.

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@alansmithee8831 I was in a Yorkshire regiment in the army, mainly from Huddersfield, but also Bradford and Donny.

    • @alansmithee8831
      @alansmithee8831 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@colinp2238 Was it Duke of Wellington's. Not army myself, but some family were and I had uniform books and painted wargames figures.

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@alansmithee8831 No, it was 5 Regiment Royal Artillery. We have an unofficial reunion every November in Huddersfield.

    • @burnbrae6948
      @burnbrae6948 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Bruce is a legend. Should have his own TV show! What he doesn't know about Scottish history is either fake or not worth knowing.

  • @johnmorris7815
    @johnmorris7815 Pƙed 2 lety

    I work for an Airline, the Bradford City Fire is used for examples of good and bad practices, for the shear speed at which a fire can go from harmless to uncontrollable and for a situation to go from an event to a fatal accident. Like all disasters on this scale the lessons learned are the best way of honouring the dead so that this can never happen again.

  • @chris23tg
    @chris23tg Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    My mum worked as a nurse in the hospital and said the hospital smelt of fire from the disaster
    If you watch the live feed of it you will see a couple of people on fire in the evacuation

  • @anitahargreaves9526
    @anitahargreaves9526 Pƙed 2 lety

    Can't like, however your reactions are sincere, imo. I was born 68 and feel bad I almost forgot about it, 56 tragedies and tormented football fans. RIP Bradford and Lincoln families, friends and supporters. đŸ‡ŹđŸ‡§đŸ‘”đŸ™

  • @pammyb1972
    @pammyb1972 Pƙed 2 lety

    I live 6 miles from Bradford, and I remember watching this unfold live on TV 😱

  • @peterfoakes7569
    @peterfoakes7569 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I remember this so well, horrific how fast it spread, was at ground in later years to see my team play there, they had a massive wall plaque with all deceaced names on it, was very very emotional, saw footage shown live at time recently, brought me to tears, there but for the grace of god go I

  • @Sarah_270
    @Sarah_270 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I've seen this in an educational course on fire safety. How quickly an incident can turn into a monstrosity and all the elements involved. I hope many laws have been put in place now. That was a tragedy waiting to happen 😔

  • @jacquieclapperton9758
    @jacquieclapperton9758 Pƙed rokem

    When I worked as police staff, I escorted three German senior officers to both Celtic Park and Ibrox to learn how Scottish police deal with football supporters and football violence. The video footage of this, together with that of Hillsborough, was shown to them as influences on both stadium design and policing of football. One thing in Scotland is that the police have control over the stadium from a point before the match to a point afterwards so there is a match commander to direct efforts should a similar disaster or violence occur. Ibrox itself, of course, has had its own disasters; the 1971 disaster being a horrific example of crushing, that nearly happened again in recent years at Wembley. There was an excellent documentary on the 1971 disaster last year in 2021 on the 50th anniversary.

  • @sabinasabina2010
    @sabinasabina2010 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    Well you should watch the real time version, not for morbid curosity but it shows you from the start when the commentator notices and said, "oh there is a ( small) fire"and to the whole stand being burnt down in was literally minutes. I had to do a fire safety course at work and they told us just to sit quietly and watch the real time footage to when it was too late, if you don't have a fire escape plan it is literally minutes until you can't escape. I also remember this disaster for another reason, it was on the very same day I was at ( as a child) another football match in the English professional leagues and after fighting a wall collapsed and killed a 16 year old child at his first ever match, that still lives with me today. No mobile phones back in those day so after what I witnessed I told my brother on the way home I never want to go a football stadium again and then this was on the news.

  • @gemmaaaxx
    @gemmaaaxx Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I remember learning about this at school. It was on the day of the 20th anniversary as I recall. I can’t remember what lesson it was used for (I assume it was science). It’s a lesson I have never forgotten about, like when we learnt of the Hillsborough disaster too. On the anniversary I always think of the victims and their families ❀ xx

  • @kaineash
    @kaineash Pƙed 2 lety +2

    This, and the Hillsborough tragedy made me fear crowds for a long time when I was young.

  • @wrightfamily4373
    @wrightfamily4373 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    A colleague is a son of those killed in the fires he still says it’s horrendous what happened

  • @seanhopton.
    @seanhopton. Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I was also watching The Hillsborough Game,when the disaster Happened.A cover up Happened and they tried blaming the innocent Liverpool fans.30 years to get justice?

  • @philiptodd6255
    @philiptodd6255 Pƙed 2 lety

    I remember watching this on tv on a Saturday afternoon

  • @jodu626
    @jodu626 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    you can actually watch it happen on YT somewhere. the speed in which it takes off is scary.

  • @alandoust551
    @alandoust551 Pƙed 2 lety

    No fire extinguishers is the thing that stood out the most from this video. What the heck.

  • @bordersw1239
    @bordersw1239 Pƙed rokem

    I never watch football but somehow ended up at a friends house and her boyfriend was sat in the lounge with a beer, ready to watch the match. Naturally, I joined him, sat down to watch probably the first match of my life, couldn’t believe what I was seeing when that fire broke out. Probably took me another 20 years to watch a match.

  • @martine6007
    @martine6007 Pƙed 2 lety

    Where I grew up we could see the fire from around 7 miles away. It was a very sad day.

  • @fionabarr6064
    @fionabarr6064 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I was watching this live at the time.
    It was so shocking and heartbreaking to watch

  • @heidithomas3177
    @heidithomas3177 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I'm old enough to remember Hillsborough, it happened the same day as my 9th birthday party but I don't really remember Bradford. But my mum says she'll never forget Bradford and the man running onto the pitch completely engulfed in flames. Just awful x

  • @ClassicWorld19
    @ClassicWorld19 Pƙed 2 lety

    I was ten-years-old when this happened and when TV coverage was being shown of this tragedy, my dad ordered me out of the room (obviously anticipating the severity of it). I was upset (at the time) that he wouldn't let me watch it. Over time, I was grateful that he had shielded me from those harrowing scenes. My heart goes out to all those affected by this tragedy. Never forgotten

  • @adrianboardman162
    @adrianboardman162 Pƙed rokem

    When I was studying hairdressing, this was used. I'm a smoker, and still always put my ciggie ends out in water before throwing them away. It was a stray ember they say that caused it.

  • @helenagreenwood2305
    @helenagreenwood2305 Pƙed 2 lety

    I remember this day I was a young mum (23) of a baby daughter she was born 5 March 1985 - I had a little black and white portable TV on in the background while I pottered about my flat - I glanced at the screen now and again and heard that the commentator had noticed a small fire and then within minutes people were running for their lives which is when my attention turned fully to the TV - heartbreaking watching it unfold in front of all the viewers ❀