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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2021
  • Today we are playing MMORPG Tycoon 2 and we will be making an mmo that is pay to win and guess what it is broken! We will be charging people £1000 to just respawn in the game. Everything will have micro transactions in this insane tycoon game! Our game will naturally make us millions. We beat going medeival by building a giant trap maze but for this we will be creating a nightmare hardcore MMO game that requires you to become a millionaire to play. so using this mmo tycoon we will make the best mmorpg!
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Komentáře • 3,7K

  • @firecrushfox
    @firecrushfox Před 2 lety +2586

    "After one person complained we're changing it."
    Wow, it's just like real MMOs!

    • @craigrobbins2463
      @craigrobbins2463 Před 2 lety +117

      "just like the simulations"

    • @reeceshugrue6167
      @reeceshugrue6167 Před 2 lety +66

      "Watch those wrist-rockets!"

    • @nathaniel817
      @nathaniel817 Před 2 lety +45

      "The enemy team has captured a command post"

    • @sealessseadog2735
      @sealessseadog2735 Před 2 lety +66

      That's a cool comment *but one person doesn't like it so you need to change it*

    • @pheonixshaman
      @pheonixshaman Před 2 lety +18

      Pretty much was one of the biggest issues with Blizzard balancing classes in WoW/Overhype (and still is, tbh).

  • @sterim0029
    @sterim0029 Před 2 lety +6682

    Imagine purchasing a game for $1000 and then later in the day its free...

    • @rvsen5351
      @rvsen5351 Před 2 lety +943

      We'll give them the legacy hat or something

    • @Vexy93
      @Vexy93 Před 2 lety +854

      Imagine purchasing a game for $1000 and then later in the day you get banned for speedhacking

    • @drewhallson8203
      @drewhallson8203 Před 2 lety +144

      @Wickem Then make them pay a small fee to put it into storage for a day.

    • @ellieblaber4243
      @ellieblaber4243 Před 2 lety +11

      this has happened with multiple games, i think H1Z1 did it for example

    • @MagiconIce
      @MagiconIce Před 2 lety +122

      That sounds like an EA business concept.

  • @juanvega594
    @juanvega594 Před 2 lety +2222

    I love the fact that I heard spiff say "that's not how you're supposed to play the game!" Being annoyed at an ai cheesing the game he is making

    • @RealEnerjak
      @RealEnerjak Před 2 lety +8

      AI's can cheese the game because they cheat out of thin air, summon units they shouldn't be able to and give themselves unlimited money.

    • @inferno3197
      @inferno3197 Před 2 lety +48

      Hypocrite

    • @kevininnocenti2398
      @kevininnocenti2398 Před 2 lety +87

      Todd Howard: "First time?"

    • @Clayvessel79
      @Clayvessel79 Před 2 lety +41

      Perfectly balanced with no exploits(tm) lol

    • @louhill4317
      @louhill4317 Před 2 lety +99

      Spiff just met his NPC self lol

  • @aliasunknown4879
    @aliasunknown4879 Před 2 lety +1767

    The fact Spiff is barely approaching Korean mmo levels of monetisation says a lot.

    • @popularatom463
      @popularatom463 Před rokem +84

      Oh please tell me more and enlighten me on this topic.

    • @iammeok
      @iammeok Před rokem +90

      @@popularatom463 Maplestory

    • @yuukil5522
      @yuukil5522 Před rokem +78

      @Popularatom Black Desert Online

    • @dawnv3436
      @dawnv3436 Před rokem +33

      Ragnorok, kRO

    • @lavantant2731
      @lavantant2731 Před rokem +41

      @@yuukil5522 oh god dont remind me of BDO, i used to be in a siege guild as a free to play cuz i had 10k hours

  • @thenatundi9009
    @thenatundi9009 Před 2 lety +2486

    "I'm going to throw all those extra points towards advertising, because advertising means MONEY"
    *Raid Shadow Legends has joined the chat*

    • @flopus7
      @flopus7 Před 2 lety +32

      You say that but shadow man actually got me to try it

    • @ashtonhoward5582
      @ashtonhoward5582 Před 2 lety +36

      @Dead one eye: the skeptical bastard I knew it would be. Now I can be secure in knowing that not trying it is the best choice.

    • @dabigork
      @dabigork Před 2 lety +52

      And this comment is sponsored by RAID SHADOW LEGEND'S
      Yeah that is all move a long

    • @MrDUneven
      @MrDUneven Před 2 lety +6

      It's indeed ya boi, RAID SH-

    • @greenanon8588
      @greenanon8588 Před 2 lety +5

      Cyberpunk join the chat

  • @JohnDoe-on6ru
    @JohnDoe-on6ru Před 2 lety +3816

    -"I've been playing this game from day 1."
    -"Wow, what level are you?"
    -"Two."

  • @RNRAGE7666
    @RNRAGE7666 Před 2 lety +766

    I just want to say... That person who broke the game by making level 2 immediately was probably the gaming worlds version of Spiffing Brit

    • @Can_be_anyone
      @Can_be_anyone Před rokem +16

      That human being was the god

    • @eyeballus
      @eyeballus Před rokem +8

      they'd be a legend. The only level 2 player on the game.

    • @theletterF
      @theletterF Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@celardoorhorse 🤓

  • @InvadeNormandy
    @InvadeNormandy Před rokem +420

    "Our MMO has just become Star Citizen"
    I laughed and will continue to laugh at this for the next decade as it stays true.

    • @sanguinenocturne
      @sanguinenocturne Před rokem +9

      I dont understand the comparison though. The non-starter ships are comically expensive, sure, but once you buy the game nothings blocking your progression or requiring you to spend a single cent more.

    • @chicken_burgers
      @chicken_burgers Před rokem +41

      @@sanguinenocturne “It’s a cool scenery demo that asks you to pay at most 10,000 dollar”

    • @CheapSoda1
      @CheapSoda1 Před rokem +8

      My great grand kids will enjoy it when they have kids of their own.

    • @Remixersoloman
      @Remixersoloman Před rokem +5

      @@sanguinenocturne other than the regular wipes lol

    • @starfire2133
      @starfire2133 Před rokem +3

      @@chicken_burgers You can buy ships with ingame money now

  • @Lavourrin
    @Lavourrin Před 2 lety +4945

    You should NOT build the respawn area in the zone 2. So every time players die, they would have to use $1000 flight path :P

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před 2 lety +203

      Would that impact the player happiness too much or would they accept it?

    • @blacksuitnotie
      @blacksuitnotie Před 2 lety +788

      @@kaltaron1284 They're consumers. They don't ask questions. They just buy product and get excited for new product lol

    • @denrol8266
      @denrol8266 Před 2 lety +316

      @@kaltaron1284 Not if you're marketing it as a soulslike

    • @bahadrbaserkok3335
      @bahadrbaserkok3335 Před 2 lety +234

      Or make the respawn 999£ so it's a tiny bit cheaper BECAUSE if the player respawns faster AND pays almost same price he can die faster making you money FASTER!

    • @TheFinalChapters
      @TheFinalChapters Před 2 lety +109

      Nah, just make the respawn $10000... gotta pay for the convenience of not flying back.

  • @DatHypnoboi
    @DatHypnoboi Před 2 lety +1572

    Scam Art Online: "If you die in the game, you die in real life, unless you pay the low low price of £10"

    • @vibez2806
      @vibez2806 Před 2 lety +71

      I would play that game for the thrill of knowing that if I don't got the 10 then I will die.

    • @thesysop4998
      @thesysop4998 Před 2 lety +48

      don't forget. you have to pay to say scam art online or any of the letters in the title because spiff co has copywritten and trademarked everything in there including world history

    • @Derzull2468
      @Derzull2468 Před 2 lety +2

      @SCP - 1669 - 46 'p', 's', 'z'.

    • @voiddragonborn646
      @voiddragonborn646 Před 2 lety +11

      I see I wasn't the only one who saw the Sword Art Online repherence

    • @Derzull2468
      @Derzull2468 Před 2 lety +21

      @@voiddragonborn646 Isn't SAO directly mentioned in the video?

  • @KamelotFan17
    @KamelotFan17 Před rokem +26

    Maplestory actually did used to have a quest you had to spend real money to complete. When the 'Mercedes' class was first released, you needed an item called 'unicorn food' to get her storyline mount. It had to be purchased for $10 in the cash shop. And it was an actual quest you get in-game money and xp for. They have since changed it so that you can complete it with 10mil in-game currency instead, but this video reminded me of it.

  • @raymuniz3841
    @raymuniz3841 Před rokem +198

    This is what EA truly wishes to do.

    • @Stormgamer-xb7gv
      @Stormgamer-xb7gv Před rokem

      Are these Really REAL People who play this game and pay money? So did he really make like 20000 pounds? Or were those just all bots?

    • @ryanrobbins2579
      @ryanrobbins2579 Před rokem

      @@Stormgamer-xb7gv just bots, but the guy was saying that what spiff is doing is what EA would kill to do

    • @Stormgamer-xb7gv
      @Stormgamer-xb7gv Před rokem

      @@ryanrobbins2579 ok thx

  • @allesarfint
    @allesarfint Před 2 lety +2015

    Spiff finally meet his match: "Breaking Scam Art Online by reaching MAX LEVEL IN ONE DAY - Scam Art Online Is a Perfectly Balanced Game with No Exploits" - The Chewgazm Brit

    • @josephwoodrell9922
      @josephwoodrell9922 Před 2 lety +110

      He used the Spiff to stop the Spiff

    • @mistseeker388
      @mistseeker388 Před 2 lety +33

      underrated comment

    • @shivery_timbers1430
      @shivery_timbers1430 Před 2 lety +92

      “Parties are op, They have no cap, so get all of your friends I have 5000, and murder everything!”

    • @AshPikachu9
      @AshPikachu9 Před 2 lety +15

      @@shivery_timbers1430 wait are you killing mobs or-

    • @shivery_timbers1430
      @shivery_timbers1430 Před 2 lety +38

      @@AshPikachu9 let’s just say, the video was made after the PVP update

  • @Disasterclese
    @Disasterclese Před 2 lety +289

    "Still nobody has reached level 2 except our one original player." I imagine that person is a celebrity in-game. People clamoring to get them in their party, asking what the level 2 zone is like, etc.

    • @ostrichman-yi8gs
      @ostrichman-yi8gs Před 2 lety +12

      So sao when people got to later floors of the tower amd survived

    • @MagiconIce
      @MagiconIce Před 2 lety +10

      "I've seen some shit.... emty plains filled with crocodiles... it is a big scam..."
      "That guy must be mad, I have to reach level two to see for myself."
      "Don't say I didn't warn you!!!"

  • @ledumpsterfire6474
    @ledumpsterfire6474 Před rokem +23

    "200 kills per level"
    Ahhhh, Spiff is making a Korean MMO. A worthy successor to Silk Road Online.

  • @saninorochimaru2
    @saninorochimaru2 Před rokem +220

    Damn, this sounds extraordinarily exploitative to the point where nobody could ever imagine a real game being anywhere near as predatory. It's not like anyone would release a game that costs a similar amount to progress in.

    • @Tangowastaken
      @Tangowastaken Před rokem +49

      @HoboMaster literally the joke

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 Před rokem +16

      @HoboMaster and that's how you know that it wasn't made in Korea: it's a round number.

    • @james14294
      @james14294 Před rokem +9

      @HoboMaster that number is actually misinformation, it was a random guess that one person made that everyone just took and reported as a fact. That being said, it still takes an insane amount of money

    • @bcnissley1
      @bcnissley1 Před rokem +20

      @Hobomaster Updated: $520,000

    • @KuroKamii94
      @KuroKamii94 Před rokem +26

      @@james14294 you're right the new number reported by fans is at least 5x that amount 💀

  • @ZoobieDoodie
    @ZoobieDoodie Před 2 lety +424

    and on the first day Todd Howard created pay to win.....

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před 2 lety +8

      @@thespiffingbrit Tea

    • @ZoobieDoodie
      @ZoobieDoodie Před 2 lety +22

      @@thespiffingbrit and it just worked!!
      Spiff i honestly cannot wait for your 3 hour Everything Todd special! That will be the day of days. We can all bask in Todd!

    • @thisguybis7347
      @thisguybis7347 Před 2 lety +7

      Godd Howard

    • @crummbumm7834
      @crummbumm7834 Před 2 lety +16

      And on the seventh Todd Howard left the rest to the modding community.

  • @CDQPK
    @CDQPK Před 2 lety +218

    This isn't "Pay to Win". It's just "Pay".

    • @Wyzai
      @Wyzai Před 2 lety +16

      pay to play... in the worst way possible

    • @SLAK113
      @SLAK113 Před 2 lety +1

      i still dont get this, are these real players??

    • @Wyzai
      @Wyzai Před 2 lety +12

      @@SLAK113 no. They're not. It's a tycoon game

    • @denisjankovic2164
      @denisjankovic2164 Před 2 lety +1

      Just like life.

    • @Urssaff
      @Urssaff Před rokem +3

      @@Wyzai it's more pay to pay, you are not even playing

  • @EvanOfTheDarkness
    @EvanOfTheDarkness Před rokem +23

    And somehow this is *still* less predatory, than Diablo Immortal...

  • @jodofe4879
    @jodofe4879 Před 2 lety +42

    Fun Fact: The Round Table wasn't actually built by Sir Cumference. In reality it was built by Sir Kel.

    • @reanukeeves5638
      @reanukeeves5638 Před rokem

      Sadly not as popular as the the knight who defined how much a Kondom have to hold named Sir Cumsized.

    • @dymondgames2884
      @dymondgames2884 Před rokem +1

      Applauds

  • @manofcultura
    @manofcultura Před 2 lety +964

    “If you don’t die, you don’t have to pay”
    You basically recreated the model of arcade games like Contra or TMNT.

    • @ExFragMaster
      @ExFragMaster Před 2 lety +35

      Wasn't that the idea someday in Japan... They created Arcade Machines that were connected to other Machines, building an intranet out of arcades. And people were storming these arcades to throw in a lot of money.
      MMO Arcades are where the real money is!

    • @129das
      @129das Před 2 lety +5

      It is an interesting concept for an MMORPG although. MMORPG's do need some way to make money.

    • @MachineMan-mj4gj
      @MachineMan-mj4gj Před 2 lety +14

      @@129das Using money to punish bad players. Genius.

    • @129das
      @129das Před 2 lety +5

      @@MachineMan-mj4gj no I make the game hard to punish everyone. And it be like item lost on death maybe

    • @GodwynDi
      @GodwynDi Před 2 lety +2

      @@129das Like MMOs used to be like Ultima Online

  • @Tyran840
    @Tyran840 Před 2 lety +883

    Spiff: "Look at me EA"
    EA: "Finally a worthy opponent"
    Any asian gatcha game company: "And you call this milking your players?"

    • @TehShinegami
      @TehShinegami Před 2 lety +33

      Yes we're looking at you nexon x)

    • @yyaakii
      @yyaakii Před 2 lety +27

      Yes, we are looking at you fgo

    • @LordDragox412
      @LordDragox412 Před 2 lety +67

      "Milk the whales, or it shall be you who is milked" - Sun Tzu

    • @pascalausensi9592
      @pascalausensi9592 Před 2 lety +4

      points at Honor of Kings

    • @adrelius7273
      @adrelius7273 Před 2 lety +10

      @@TehShinegami oh yeah and they're about put an end to my favorite game by gaining the right to publish it globally.

  • @Nick-zm2vm
    @Nick-zm2vm Před rokem +23

    Make the boss the same as the normal mobs, just with with more health and damage. A true MMO.

  • @trindatyata4833
    @trindatyata4833 Před rokem +12

    I've never heard of this game until now, but this was a perfect sales pitch for it

  • @madbrosheo1514
    @madbrosheo1514 Před 2 lety +310

    “If we die in the game, our bank account dies for real!”

    • @stefanejegod8644
      @stefanejegod8644 Před 2 lety +10

      "Congratulations, you've just entered The Matrix" "wait WHAT?"

  • @IchNachtLiebe
    @IchNachtLiebe Před 2 lety +752

    I can just see the update release announcement:
    "We've just released version 5.3! Everything is the same except we have 400 new bushes near a mountain!"

    • @denisjankovic2164
      @denisjankovic2164 Před 2 lety +80

      And the players go like: OH MY GOD THE ULTIMATE UPDATE.

    • @haakz509
      @haakz509 Před 2 lety +3

      @No Peaceful Solotions Anymore Wtf is that game just watched some gameplay

    • @MaximumOvercricket
      @MaximumOvercricket Před 2 lety +16

      @@haakz509 It isn't one. It's a Scam game made by people who have gotten in trouble for scamming before. It managed to make a lot of development money and popularity, because the developers promised the world and produced an ad for it with an asset pack.

    • @haakz509
      @haakz509 Před 2 lety

      @@MaximumOvercricket
      Oh I looked like shit, no surprise is an scam thb

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 Před rokem

      It just works.

  • @DGPDarkar
    @DGPDarkar Před 2 lety +26

    Upgrading the game with bushes was a true approved Game Freak move

  • @pleaserespond3984
    @pleaserespond3984 Před rokem +2

    Amazing business idea. Free MMO, no subscription fees, but to log out it costs 5 pounds, otherwise your character is deleted. Going AFK also deletes your character unless you purchase AFK protection (1 pound per AFK).

  • @DrakeTain
    @DrakeTain Před 2 lety +319

    “But then again everything is the dark souls of MMO if pc gamer can’t beat it.” Shots fired.

  • @andrewhoffman1087
    @andrewhoffman1087 Před 2 lety +733

    IGN: The price of respawning and flight paths could be deemed a little egregious for some. But the amount of time that it takes to grind means you will find more than enough value in this game. Not to mention, that lower price point up front is just gravy. 10/10.

    • @Niterayde
      @Niterayde Před 2 lety +9

      Be a hardcore players wet dream style challenge.

    • @michaeltesterman8295
      @michaeltesterman8295 Před rokem +8

      It is very hard though, so we are going to have to lower it down to a 5/10

    • @dbz9393
      @dbz9393 Před rokem +3

      The lower price point seems to fluctuate between 0-1000 pounds depending on the time of day

  • @korma3736
    @korma3736 Před rokem +22

    All the jokes and satire aside, this looks like a really enjoyable game

  • @GENERALTIM21
    @GENERALTIM21 Před rokem +7

    To be honest - this is the kind of progression that I loved when I used to play MMOs.
    Also, the town design is actually kinda good and I would play this if I was a billionaire AI.

  • @pollyphemeus
    @pollyphemeus Před 2 lety +238

    "buy the game for $40 dollars, then spend a grand to get to level 2" sounds like a mobile game.

    • @InvestmentBankr
      @InvestmentBankr Před 2 lety +7

      Right but get for free and play for free but grind fooooorever. Is every KoreanMMO ever. So, it was inevitable.

    • @tannerdonkey9939
      @tannerdonkey9939 Před 2 lety +1

      No download the game for free pay 100 dollars to actually play it and it is just a copy of every other mobile game

  • @AnTi90d
    @AnTi90d Před 2 lety +223

    Oh, wow.. Pay-To-Lose.. that's an earth shattering concept.

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 Před 2 lety +2

      That sound amazing

    • @phaseshock2962
      @phaseshock2962 Před 2 lety +3

      That's just the next logical evolution of Git Gud

    • @davidross5640
      @davidross5640 Před 2 lety +6

      sounds like normal life actually

    • @FryzuxD
      @FryzuxD Před 2 lety +1

      more like Pay-Or-Lose

  • @tubey84
    @tubey84 Před rokem +7

    I used to think this was unrealistic, but then Diablo Immortal happened and this now seems tame.

  • @hans8856
    @hans8856 Před rokem +7

    you need more pengus near the graveyard, causing people to die as soon as they spawn in, causing them to do even faster

  • @elvingearmasterirma7241
    @elvingearmasterirma7241 Před 2 lety +208

    "It'll cost you money to leave level one."
    Every publisher and MMO designers: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN

    • @lisaruhm6681
      @lisaruhm6681 Před 2 lety +2

      It costs you money to move.

    • @elvingearmasterirma7241
      @elvingearmasterirma7241 Před 2 lety +2

      @@lisaruhm6681 dont give them ideas please

    • @thanquolrattenherz9665
      @thanquolrattenherz9665 Před 2 lety +2

      creative assembly: is he a god?

    • @atashgallagher5139
      @atashgallagher5139 Před 2 lety

      And track when people start pointlessly mashing buttons after deaths or whatnot and then offer a bonus item to help for a small fee, and after that start making things harder and harder until the rage mashing happens again and repeat and then don't do this to people who refuse to buy the item constantly so that they won't just quit.

    • @loganshaw9198
      @loganshaw9198 Před 2 lety +1

      If every lvl of a player is a different lvl of the game then yes great business plan.

  • @andersasblom6452
    @andersasblom6452 Před 2 lety +226

    It DOES make sense for the Evil Business Penguins to lay siege on the starter town. It's a Hostile Takeover.

    • @alexanderschweinehunde167
      @alexanderschweinehunde167 Před 2 lety +7

      Its not a hostile takeover; its a surprise liberation

    • @loganshaw9198
      @loganshaw9198 Před 2 lety +1

      Well business penguins want the profits of the town
      Before the chicken try to take over the town.

    • @drewpickle8916
      @drewpickle8916 Před 2 lety

      If they do it near an inn it can be a hostel takeover

  • @NMe6667
    @NMe6667 Před rokem +5

    Cant believe you made diablo immortal like a year before Blizzard did

  • @ZW6604
    @ZW6604 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Most game developers: Microtransactions.
    The Spiffing Brit: Transactions.

  • @user-fc1vr3wx7l
    @user-fc1vr3wx7l Před 2 lety +97

    *One player gaining a level after killing one pingu*
    Spiff: "i need to balance this game"
    Me: "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

    • @loganshaw9198
      @loganshaw9198 Před 2 lety +3

      What would of happened if spiff made lvl 2 area twice as hard?

  • @SunDry_Marchy
    @SunDry_Marchy Před 2 lety +400

    Spiff: breaks a game about making games
    Seems normal

    • @SunDry_Marchy
      @SunDry_Marchy Před 2 lety

      Completely normal

    • @Graknorke
      @Graknorke Před 2 lety +3

      How is it broken? This is exactly how an MMO works

    • @oneSneakySnake
      @oneSneakySnake Před 2 lety +1

      He's already done it at least twice

    • @SunDry_Marchy
      @SunDry_Marchy Před 2 lety +2

      @@Graknorke really shitty mmo, yes. Which actually defines almost every.
      I actually rest my case

  • @NoOne-fe3gc
    @NoOne-fe3gc Před 2 lety +4

    "... and then EA downloaded Spiff's video and started using it as their training material for new devs"

  • @UrMom-it7gj
    @UrMom-it7gj Před rokem +10

    Personally I think enabling duels overs guilds was an oversight, fuel deaths are good but, full on guild war? That would be wildly profitable 💰

  • @Kyeto13X
    @Kyeto13X Před 2 lety +275

    Spiff makes a game.
    "We have tapped into the Star Citizen Crowd!"

    • @Cpt.Str4ng3
      @Cpt.Str4ng3 Před 2 lety +9

      Hes not wrong :D

    • @SirPunch2Face
      @SirPunch2Face Před 2 lety +11

      I actually lol'ed at that lol

    • @LynKazoyuu
      @LynKazoyuu Před 2 lety +3

      how about scummy elite dangerous

    • @Raynedog00
      @Raynedog00 Před 2 lety +3

      Eve Online more like

    • @chrismanuel9768
      @chrismanuel9768 Před 2 lety +1

      @@LynKazoyuu Elite Dangerous has never done any scummy monetization? They literally only charge for cosmetics, and you can earn premium currency in-game, and there's in-game cosmetics you can't buy even if you wanted.

  • @sylphienne
    @sylphienne Před 2 lety +483

    Spiffing Brit: "We can convince anyone in the world that they absolutely have to kill 1000 regular boars over and over again"
    Me in Black Desert currently farming for regular boar titles: 👁👄👁

    • @thedavisdojo5944
      @thedavisdojo5944 Před 2 lety +14

      Is black desert good to just pour lots of time in I been thinking of playing it

    • @sylphienne
      @sylphienne Před 2 lety +33

      @@thedavisdojo5944 If you have heaps of time to spend and want to feel the suffering of grinding so many mobs. Get Black desert online pc version.
      If you don't have enough time, impatient and prefer an auto bot do mostly everything for you, get Black Desert mobile.

    • @skylergabriele6445
      @skylergabriele6445 Před 2 lety +36

      @@thedavisdojo5944 don't play games like that. You waste years of your life farming fucking swords without noticing it.

    • @SaltyMikan
      @SaltyMikan Před 2 lety +1

      @@skylergabriele6445 I'm sorry but that's just not true, yes it's a grindfest, but there are plenty of other things to enjoy

    • @theanniversary2684
      @theanniversary2684 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SaltyMikan Like what?

  • @GamingWolfGod
    @GamingWolfGod Před 2 lety +1

    "Scam Art Online" you just summed up the entire catalyst for the first arc of SAO.

  • @grayl1684
    @grayl1684 Před rokem +10

    Watching this now, makes me feel like diablo immortal was created in a similar simulator and some people are as dumb as the ai players on this game to play thousands for absolutely nothing

  • @sam8742
    @sam8742 Před 2 lety +379

    "Scam art online"
    Does spiff watch anime?
    I guess Rimmy is rubbing off on you or something

    • @sam8742
      @sam8742 Před 2 lety +30

      @@thespiffingbrit
      Sci-fi Royal Navy eh?

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před 2 lety +4

      @@thespiffingbrit Tea

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před 2 lety +9

      @@thespiffingbrit Wasn't only Yan Wengli into tea? Granted he was one of the greatest strategists in the series.

    • @blankblank1949
      @blankblank1949 Před 2 lety +12

      @@thespiffingbrit Damn spiff i didnt know that you're an elitetist

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před 2 lety +6

      @@thespiffingbrit I like tea with rum and sugar more.
      I think there were some scenes with the Imperials drinking tea but I'm not sure.
      Guess I'll have to rewatch the series. Now look what you have done.

  • @Oblithian
    @Oblithian Před 2 lety +29

    "Has killed so many chickens and penguins they're probably on some kind of watch list", said Spiff observing the player he recently located using his watch list.

  • @lilacdoe7945
    @lilacdoe7945 Před 2 lety +7

    I can imagine this is what the execs at EA do everytime they update the rosters and make billions selling the exact same player cards.

  • @christophernottelling8453

    It would be so cool if let’s game it out and spiff did a vid together and called it let’s spiff it out
    And they basically find out that life is perfect balanced

  • @therealdontclickme
    @therealdontclickme Před 2 lety +442

    “We’ve tapped into the star citizen crowd”
    Me: *makes angry space noises*

    • @baburik
      @baburik Před 2 lety +45

      in space no one can hear you REEEEE

    • @Femboi_Hilda
      @Femboi_Hilda Před 2 lety +4

      i play star citizen

    • @casualgerman1949
      @casualgerman1949 Před 2 lety +8

      I backed SC as well and I don't mind the reference, because he is an entertainer and his brilliant nonsense is part of the fun.
      And those phrases are kind of stereotype, normaly used by people who like to troll SC backers or for some reason hate it. And yes there are ships that cost a lot.... but you don't have to buy them. But for some reason some say you will have to and that's where such phrases kick in...
      In fact people who buy such ships often say "My wallet (or my wife, or both) gonna hate me!" :D

    • @baburik
      @baburik Před 2 lety +16

      @@casualgerman1949 if it quacks like cope...

    • @toopink4death492
      @toopink4death492 Před 2 lety +7

      @@casualgerman1949 I'ma be honest with you man. I don't see something beyond the horizon with the tech demo you call a game when the said company is working on another game that wasn't on the list of why you backed it. Really sus.

  • @datonis1280
    @datonis1280 Před 2 lety +353

    Spiff, is Mrs Spiff pregnant? Cause you're telling a whole lotta Dad jokes...

    • @knilorebardus2519
      @knilorebardus2519 Před 2 lety +16

      Is mango acting weird on her streams?!

    • @ryuku2
      @ryuku2 Před 2 lety +52

      The twist is that Sir Cumference building the Round Table is a real book.
      He's married to lady Di of Ameter.

    • @somerandomxboxplayer
      @somerandomxboxplayer Před 2 lety

      9 year olds be like

    • @lemonbot4906
      @lemonbot4906 Před 2 lety +5

      Child support is perfectly balance

    • @solitairemask7754
      @solitairemask7754 Před 2 lety

      @@ryuku2 That sounds like a pretty cheesy book, perfect for 3rd Grade math class. What was the title?

  • @jesus276
    @jesus276 Před 2 lety +2

    Lmao, what you said about "now that the peasants can´t gain access to this game is my favorite game in the universe" happened but inversely with Tera, when it costed money a lot of people loved it but when it went free to play like half of the players hated the shit out of it.

  • @jessewilson2557
    @jessewilson2557 Před rokem

    holy hell, this was so good. when you added that quest chain that costs money to complete ~i was in tears :)

  • @jAujAl1
    @jAujAl1 Před 2 lety +47

    Regular MMO balance update: *tweaks some minor stats by 5 up to 10 percent*
    Spiffing Brit balance update: *adds or remove a couple zeros at the end of the stats/prices*

  • @JessWLStuart
    @JessWLStuart Před 2 lety +130

    Penguins? Chickens? This game should be called "Fowl Pursuit"!

  • @Crazeee9000
    @Crazeee9000 Před 2 lety +4

    “Just throw enough money at a game until you become good at it” - literally ever P2W game

  • @thepiedish903
    @thepiedish903 Před 2 lety +10

    That dad joke actually got me to laugh out loud. Woke the misses but the eye roll after the joke was all worth it.

  • @sir_vix
    @sir_vix Před 2 lety +91

    Presumably if you turn the difficulty up to max in MMO Tycoon the players spawn with Spiff-AI and proceed to prove how perfectly balanced your game is.

    • @wizardkevin101
      @wizardkevin101 Před 2 lety +10

      Wait, a higher difficulty setting turns the ai players into spiff level exploiters? I wonder how they'd fare in Scam Art Online

    • @jackferdinger4180
      @jackferdinger4180 Před 2 lety +7

      @@wizardkevin101 Can Spiff beat Spiff-AI?

    • @spring5385
      @spring5385 Před 2 lety +15

      @@wizardkevin101 Remember that first guy who killed one penguin and leveled up? That was in-universe Spiff.

    • @sir_vix
      @sir_vix Před 2 lety +4

      @@jackferdinger4180 I think he'd add an option to drink tea to the game and they'd get distracted. As long as Spiff himself has already had tea he should avoid the same fate and therefore win.

  • @danielhale1
    @danielhale1 Před 2 lety +127

    It was only a joke, until EA started charging for respawns and logouts

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před 2 lety +17

      I really hope they aren't watching this. On the other hand they are on my blacklist anyway.

    • @The_Keeper
      @The_Keeper Před 2 lety +21

      Who was it that tried to charge for more save-slots, Square Enix..?

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před 2 lety +14

      @@The_Keeper You mean Metal Gear Survive? Yeah, I think that was them.

    • @thereallyrealplayer9676
      @thereallyrealplayer9676 Před 2 lety +4

      Wow, trying to leave the game quick by doing the alt f4 just makes you pay double without even asking to confirm the purchase, now.

    • @VulcanHeStan
      @VulcanHeStan Před 2 lety +2

      @@The_Keeper That was Konami with Metal Gear Survive.

  • @wheelch0ck
    @wheelch0ck Před 2 lety +1

    I just came across your channel the other day and I subscribbed. You're killing me! I can't stop laughing! 👽🤣

  • @kdodds5357
    @kdodds5357 Před 2 lety

    I’ll have you know that I’ve been watching your videos for a few months now but it was the igloo joke that finally made me subscribe

  • @tophatowl6724
    @tophatowl6724 Před 2 lety +102

    Balance suggestion: For the scenery, it could be possible to have a "cohesion level" and a "repetition level" so that putting the same plant gives diminishing rewards and so that you cant just slap together random bits of scenery and calling it a day. So winter themed stuff would have a higher "cohesion level" than if you mixed ice and desert themed stuff. This could be in the form of a score multiplier, so high cohesion would give a high multiplier, and a repetition would give a multiplier

    • @somedude6833
      @somedude6833 Před 2 lety +23

      Also make it so concentrated areas of props have a lower effect on the scenery rating. This could be done to avoid players placing every possible prop in one big square in a corner, but so it still allows a player to place similar props together.

    • @MikyleY
      @MikyleY Před 2 lety +3

      that is actually kinda genius

    • @lonergothonline
      @lonergothonline Před 2 lety +6

      and y'know, limit the amount of props per region of the map, so you can't just go from version 1 to 5 in the first region with just an auto clicker and one type of prop selected. maybe make the limit high, but not infinite. maybe have a soft limit and a hard limit, in case someone wants to actually spend time designing something nice, but would go over the limit to do so, the hard limit would be tied to servers and nodes and the soft limit would be where diminishing returns start occurring, where nothing new in one region would affect version number or prettiness.

    • @user-yd6sb2ol6z
      @user-yd6sb2ol6z Před 2 lety +1

      Send your update ideas to the devs so they will listen

  • @XenosInfinity
    @XenosInfinity Před 2 lety +187

    Having to pay to complete quests has actually been done, Spiff. One of Josh Strife Hayes' recent Worst MMO Ever videos had a game requiring you buy an item from the cash shop to complete a specific quest - multiple times, and with the item not doing anything other than completing the quest.

    • @RobertMcBride-is-cool
      @RobertMcBride-is-cool Před 2 lety +9

      What is the game? Never mind, it's Metin 2.

    • @1ermejo4ever1
      @1ermejo4ever1 Před 2 lety +4

      @@RobertMcBride-is-cool I've not heard about Metin2 in AGES. There are still people playng that?

    • @RobertMcBride-is-cool
      @RobertMcBride-is-cool Před 2 lety +7

      @@1ermejo4ever1 considering they still have the servers up, yeah. Most are probably for nostalgia’s sake while the rest are either looking for a boring MMO or looking for something to play and just happen upon it.

    • @st4rpt_603
      @st4rpt_603 Před rokem +4

      Ah...Metin 2...one of my childhood MMORPG (in private servers ofc, fuck the legacy ones)

  • @demeincosmos1164
    @demeincosmos1164 Před 2 lety

    Love see you do this till end building maximum. Each area worst then last

  • @stefanejegod8644
    @stefanejegod8644 Před 2 lety +90

    Imagine being interested in a game that used to cost 40 pounds that all of a sudden blows up, and you NEED to play it, so you pay the somehow increased price of 1000 pounds. Then wait a few days... and it's gone free to play.
    Then your friends really want to play it because it's free? and then... it cost 1000 pounds again.
    If that's not a sign of success, I don't know what is!

    • @Kila-Innova
      @Kila-Innova Před 2 lety +4

      And then on a whim the devs decide due to popular reception they're going free to play.

    • @stefanejegod8644
      @stefanejegod8644 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Kila-Innova "How much would I have to pay for the consisdency package?" "Hmm, who knows???" "Dammit!"

  • @Fearedfox18
    @Fearedfox18 Před 2 lety +107

    at the end "someone hit level 2" my first thought, BAN HIM

    • @abadgurl2010
      @abadgurl2010 Před 2 lety +6

      Me too, lol. And I don't feel bad about it!

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios Před 2 měsíci +1

    After playing Scan Art ONline for many years I can say, it wasn't the same after it went free to play.
    But the chicken expansion was clearly the peak in terms of content.

  • @riptiderob5433
    @riptiderob5433 Před rokem +5

    This was great, can’t wait for the next stream!

  • @Mureto
    @Mureto Před 2 lety +64

    0:44 Never before have I been so offended, by something I 100% agree with. as a german this hurts, but you're right

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před 2 lety

      E

    • @Scriptease1
      @Scriptease1 Před 2 lety +5

      The farm equipment in the future will be able to run farming simulators making it twice as effective

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Scriptease1 It will also probably be more intelligent than its owner.

    • @Scriptease1
      @Scriptease1 Před 2 lety

      The dumbest farmers have the biggest potatos is a german saying

  • @TakeMyLunch
    @TakeMyLunch Před 2 lety +132

    "Charging people to complete quests!"
    *flashbacks to having to buy an item from the cash shop in a lot of mmos to complete a quest in the starting town*

    • @ouchhurts
      @ouchhurts Před 2 lety +3

      entropia

    • @129das
      @129das Před 2 lety +15

      that's so gross

    • @sekliley7587
      @sekliley7587 Před 2 lety +14

      @Honudes Gai think they mean the cash shop tutorial where they give you the funds to buy some inconsequential cheap thing that doesn't do anything other than finish the quest, tho idk about any mmo doing this it is a common practice in mobile and browser games.

    • @Wyzai
      @Wyzai Před 2 lety +5

      @@sekliley7587 browser games are technically mmos. It is relatively common practice in those. Not so much in proper PC titles.

    • @sgtmuffinbadger6147
      @sgtmuffinbadger6147 Před 2 lety

      Wizard 101

  • @zebedeetotty
    @zebedeetotty Před rokem +1

    "basically the later you arrive to the game, the more it's going to cost you to even play the thing"
    Wow just like real life

  • @Conta_Minated
    @Conta_Minated Před rokem +1

    Came for the cheesy exploits, stayed for the cheesy jokes.

  • @f0616ch
    @f0616ch Před 2 lety +137

    "Advertising is all that's matter"
    Is this, Raid shadow legends?

  • @RynRobitske
    @RynRobitske Před 2 lety +34

    "We've tapped into the Star Citizen crowd." Hey! ...yeah...

    • @RynRobitske
      @RynRobitske Před 2 lety +8

      ...and the fact that it's still only one zone...

    • @jackson14431
      @jackson14431 Před 2 lety +5

      @@RynRobitske its fine bro just buy more multi-thousand ship keys for the game, im sure the yacht the lead dev is on is doing fine. Uh i mean uh the space yacht from the store.

  • @Yespenn
    @Yespenn Před 2 lety +2

    EA watching this video: WRITE THAT DOWN

  • @GlennDavey
    @GlennDavey Před 2 lety +13

    A game that lets you make games. Wild. There are indie devs out there weeping looking at this.

    • @ironspaghett
      @ironspaghett Před rokem +2

      RPG maker has been around for a while

    • @vivishii_
      @vivishii_ Před rokem

      @@ironspaghett it’s also not a game

  • @chandrakas
    @chandrakas Před 2 lety +88

    “People have enjoyed this game MORE now that it costs a thousand pounds!”
    Me: That’s the sunk cost fallacy for you, I guess.

  • @michelvanderlinden8363
    @michelvanderlinden8363 Před 2 lety +108

    "Making an MMO that is Pay to win is broken", otherwise known as "Spiffs Job application for Activision-Blizzard and/or Electronic Arts"

  • @ShotokunWulf
    @ShotokunWulf Před rokem +2

    I’ve never heard of this game, I thought you were talking about real people for a minute

  • @kbhasi
    @kbhasi Před rokem +1

    "MMORPG Tycoon 2"
    That's a real game?!?! That is instantly going on my Steam wishlist.

  • @Trollami
    @Trollami Před 2 lety +14

    Club Penguin certainly has changed.

  • @SirAxart
    @SirAxart Před 2 lety +141

    Imagine buying a game for 1000 pounds and realizing, literally like a day later, that it's been made free.
    You really shouldn't be giving EA so many ideas, Spiff.

    • @GodActio
      @GodActio Před 2 lety +8

      Gents, peasant weekend is upon us!

    • @Wyzai
      @Wyzai Před 2 lety

      that's my experience with Rift, except there was 2 years instead of 1 day.

    • @tthis5299
      @tthis5299 Před rokem +1

      Reality: Buying a game and loosing it in a few months
      *Coughs* Ubisoft

    • @ethanmiller3200
      @ethanmiller3200 Před rokem

      Poppy Playtime moment

  • @MysticMaverick0639
    @MysticMaverick0639 Před rokem +1

    This man predicted diabolo immortal. Yorkshire tea gold officially gives clairvoyant abilities.

  • @XL2TOPPINGPIZZA
    @XL2TOPPINGPIZZA Před rokem +1

    Congratulations Spiffing Brit, you have created Runescape!

  • @HairofSteel555
    @HairofSteel555 Před 2 lety +89

    Honestly. Spiff, you just recreated most Korean MMO's out there. Only difference? You made them pay for it.

  • @jacobmotes7497
    @jacobmotes7497 Před 2 lety +68

    I really want this game to let your friends play your mmo

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před 2 lety +2

      @@thespiffingbrit Tea

    • @jacobmotes7497
      @jacobmotes7497 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thespiffingbrit not your game specifically, I'm not made of money. I meant the royal "your"... Wait does that still refer to you?

  • @adventurousash
    @adventurousash Před rokem +5

    This game looks like a lot of fun.

  • @SpeedDemon03
    @SpeedDemon03 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You sir have reminded me that my kettle is on, i better pour my tea.

  • @manvslife271
    @manvslife271 Před 2 lety +98

    "Advertising is all that matters"
    Damn spiff i didn't know you had insider information from CDPR

  • @okupant880
    @okupant880 Před 2 lety +75

    I absolutely love how the first combat zone basically became a town. This would be a great idea for an actual RPG. Step by step changing the world as the players reach goals and milestones.

    • @BrokenRazorButterfly
      @BrokenRazorButterfly Před 2 lety +10

      it would be a good idea... for early adopters
      late players would basicly play on a map that was allready finished by someone else and would be mostly jealous of the storys theyd hear and prob leave

    • @okupant880
      @okupant880 Před 2 lety +4

      @@BrokenRazorButterfly Make the change level based. You reach a certain level, get quest out of town or in towm and boom change after the quest. AND free movement to the town before and after.

    • @BrokenRazorButterfly
      @BrokenRazorButterfly Před 2 lety +4

      @@okupant880... you mean instanced changes? if its on a per player basis then not much point to it, since other players dont actually see the change you caused
      and if the "before" variant is even still available its hard feeling like you have had an impact on the world at all
      from what i understood of your comment before it was actually changing the world map in accordance to player progress, not instanced changes only players who archieved it could see
      cause that stuff allready exists

    • @okupant880
      @okupant880 Před 2 lety +2

      @@BrokenRazorButterfly WHat i mean is that there is no reason for you to go back except for when you go greet a newbie friend in the low level old version of it.

    • @BrokenRazorButterfly
      @BrokenRazorButterfly Před 2 lety +4

      @@okupant880 so its not an actual overworld change but instead an instamced version, something that allready exists in many games in mamy variations

  • @marellus6769
    @marellus6769 Před 2 lety +6

    Make a part 2! As I would love to see Scam Art Online again, but with more zones (when in reality basically no one will be going to them anyway)

  • @Rezuvious
    @Rezuvious Před 2 lety +49

    The saddest part is, some people actually would pay for this if it was real.

  • @Kairanis
    @Kairanis Před 2 lety +233

    Hearing Spiffing Brit laugh at his own terrible puns, for some reason, gives me life.

  • @jaredklapp1069
    @jaredklapp1069 Před rokem +2

    Spiff knew of Diablo immortal before anyone else he must've been part of the dev team

  • @dimn9403
    @dimn9403 Před 2 lety

    Weird to think all this started from those stellaris timelapses, i was here for it, damn

  • @ijustsawthat
    @ijustsawthat Před 2 lety +34

    "EA, it just works."
    That sentence has layers of curse in it.

    • @GenericUserName443
      @GenericUserName443 Před 2 lety +2

      "It just works" was a Bethesda thing said by Todd Howard.
      EA is "Its in the game", which is also "interesting" in its own way

    • @nonchip
      @nonchip Před 2 lety +1

      @@GenericUserName443 explaining them makes jokes so much more fun :)

    • @MichaelR1275
      @MichaelR1275 Před 2 lety

      @@nonchip ;)