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- Crusader Kings 3 / Crusader Kings III Is the latest entry into the crusader kings series and it is set to release in the next few weeks. The Developers have given me early access to the latest dlc Northern Lords game to record this gameplay footage and show off my favourite features in the game! We will be following the life of the count of the isle of man The dread pirate Captain Jock Sparrow who will be making money by Raiding the entire planet and world of ck3! By doing so we will become a legendary pirate and viking raider who will have infinite prestige and money! So sit back and enjoy this Pirate simulator which has been disguised under the name of a grand strategy game CK3! I loved playing CK2 and I am excited to be able to show off this next in CK3! But is this new game Crusader Kings 3 a perfectly balanced game with no exploits or is making money by Raiding so quickly I teleport overpowered! Well lets see what The Spiffing Brit has to show us today in Crusader Kings III
So sit back and watch as the spiffing brit tests to see if Crusader Kings III is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits or if the Becoming a pirate Challenge is broken!! How can you even Become Famous and prestigious in CK3 without doing any big achievement beyond raiding the entire world! What strange Strategy game exploit is this! Also featuring an Unlimited gold thanks to a gold exploit!
This video game exploit video will be jam packed with a best bits funny moments montage style of editing similar to that of Valefisk, Robbaz and RTgame. So sit back relax and grab a cup of tea to enjoy with the spiffing brit!
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Title: Crusader Kings 3 IS A PERFECTLY BALANCED GAME WITH NO EXPLOITS - Making Money By Raiding!! #AD
#Funny #Exploit #CK3 - Hry
Forgiving your son for fathering a child with his step mom.
That's one hell of a sentence
What a great dad.
Speed Child should have been named Chadipus Rex.
What are you doing step son
Like Zeus?
He basically was fighting his brother, "Well, I did your mom!" Yeah... Still weird, imo
@@TheBloodRedDragon damn bro, dont make it even weirder
Don't you just love it when you accidentally beat the speed of light
There are no accidents-Sifu Franklin Turtle
@Aarav Shah Biggest oof
"I 1-up the Pope by stealing his hat, my son 1-up's me by stealing my wife."
Best line, hands down.
Tis the cycle of life
2 things. i liked your comment so its not stuck on 420 anymore. drugs are bad. 2nd, did they DP her?
@@matta9215 Don't think so.
Queen: "Help me, stepson! I've become stuck in the ye olde washing machine."
Prince Speed Child: "It's free real estate."
what?
It's funny and disturbing how I'm well informed enough to understand this reference
@@Apollo-gd4qp Oh sweet summer child.
:'D
@@kiriuxeosa8716 Informed, so that's what we're calling it now?
Legends say that Speed Child was so fast, that he reached the age of Eighteen in only Six years.
Alesha Popovich then he was but smart
was about to comment on that notification saying that the Speed Child grows up so fast :D
Legend has it he was so fast his child was born before he finished pulling out.
And climax in a matter of seconds
Big brain time
“This is either madness, or brilliance.”
“It’s remarkable how often those two traits coincide.”
- Captain Jock Sparrow
Captain jock sparrow actually said yo bro let's go play some football me hearties yaaarrgg
Pirates of the European.
@@brookenash8729 this made me laugh more than it should have.
imagine raiding the holy roman empire to just steal the popes hat.
Lmao
pope isnt under holy roman empire...2 different things
maybe u mean papacy..
Worth
Uh what
Spiff: And we're going to leave Wonder Child in charge. - Returns later and Wonder Child is nowhere to be seen and the Empire is being led by Speed Child, which let's be honest here it really wasn't going to go any other way.
Speed child the Conqueror
@@thomasquwack9503 The conqueror of step moms indeed
😂What happened to Mega Chad?
Speedrun getting Emperor Any% Glitchless Perfectly balanced
Speed Child was an absolute *God* and his brother was only slightly good. So what if boned his Step-Mom? Sure, it's a little weird, but no relation means no deformed or lunatic children, so all's good. Who would you rather have had in charge, the "Okay" Son or the Chadimus Maximus?
The first move of this brit was raiding northern ireland, a classic in his culture.
It just works...
Just can't help it
Old habits die hard
Free real estate.
he started by raiding France ... still on point, though
Therapist:Captian Jock Sparrow doesn't exist he cant hurt you
Captain Jock Sparrow:
@@thespiffingbrit Oh god
@@thespiffingbrit NOOOOOOOO!
@@thespiffingbrit It's not your money from devoting your husbands, it's ours, USSR anthem intensifies
@@thespiffingbrit "I heard you didn't like the video OR subscribe"...
@@thespiffingbrit Nothing personal, kid
I love how Spiff just kinda ignored the fact that the last line of the kingdom of pirates was "But they have heard of me" which I feel is a subtle nod to Pirates of the Caribbean which basically doubles down on the meme of the characters name
Good catch lol
I was looking for someone to mention this.
Norrington: "You are by far the worst pirate I have ever heard of."
Sparrow: "But you _have_ heard of me."
Speed Child be like: "Common, your not even my real mom, your my step-mom. Just this one time. No, father is raiding, he wont be home soon."
“BLAST! FATHER IS BACK EARLIER THEN USUAL! HE SEIZED CONTROL FASTER THEN EVER BEFORE”
This Man drank himself to death at 80 years old after conquering France. What an absolute legend.
Not to mention, reformed the religion to be their new god... not a bad life
If you make it to the age of 80+ like I don't even know that it can be called "drinking yourself to death" anymore, even if it's 100% cirrhosis of the liver or whatever. When you die that old it might as well be filed under "natural causes"
@@voteZDLR is alcohol poisoning not a "natural cause?"
@@fenixchief7 My point is I guess, and I guess the joke is like if he's that old and started drinking and then died suddenly it's not really himself drinking himself to death. He was just old.
I am trying to remember my point when making the comment lol.
Moreover like if he's a freaking Viking you better believe he started drinking when he was like 6. And he makes it to 80+ lol.
That also could've been my point. I dunno. I was drunk when I wrote it, that's the other irony.
@@voteZDLR Absolute legend
Using prestige to buy armies is literally "paying with exposure".
it really is its just like the rock walking up to someone and saying kill for me im famous
You can also spam the hell out of prestige as vikings by killing prisoners for piety and marrying for prestige divorcing and remarrying infinitely
Stealing the popes head and wearing it as a sign of dominance is a very Jock Sparrow like move. I quite enjoyed that XDDD
Any character that successfully founds Mann and The Isles can truly be said to have earned that Living Legend status. I'll never forget my boy Magnus Unisson Svavrsson, whom inherited the already mighty Jarldom of Iceland built by his grandfather, and used its power to become the terror of western Europe.
My child, Kyrie Eos, inherited the Persian Kingdom and used the gold and armies of her forefathers to not just go from a Kingdom to an Empire, but conquer the Byzantines, the Arabian Empire up to the Nile, fight off a Crusade, and turn her culture into a Matriarchy, ensuring her children would rule as queens. This enabled me to become the terror of Catholics everywhere for the rest of the game.
I think she and Magnus would've gotten along famously.
@@ladywaffle2210 average paradox player
The thing about the concept of this character is: There was actually a pirate bishop of the Isle of Mann. He was called Wimund (also spelt Wymund) and took up the Bishopric in 1100. And he took up piracy because, as the spiffing Yorkshire Tea drinker said, the Isle of Mann has an absolute garbage province. Wimund later got captured, ha his eye poked out and was locked away in a monastery in Carlisle.
cool! i did not know this. 👍
Wow, I had to look this up, but it's true. Unlike Captain Jock Sparrow, they poked out both of his eyes, but it's really similar.
Thanks for looking that up. New knowledge to randomly drop in a conversation about black mold.
Anyone who's spent a Friday night drinking in Carlisle will confirm losing an eye is not unlikely.
Not really the inspiration for the character, but absolutely for the ingame decision to make a pirate kingdom
Anglo-Saxons: No you can’t raid monasteries
Vikings: ha ha ha raiding go brrrrr
:D
35 min video released 35 min ago. Comment made 31 min ago. Time traveler confirmed.
@@harrynutts8856it means they posted comment 4 minutes AFTER video was made. Think you are getting your mathematics a bit backwards.
Well, Spiff's Viking was remarkably devout, sacrificing all those nonbelievers and defeating so many christians!
@@harrynutts8856 he made the comment 4 minutes after it was released?
Spiff: makes one-eyed character
>Just look into this man's eyes
Spiff, you glorious jerk
Jock sparrow: *exists*
Everyone: "that has undoubtedly got to be the best pirate I've ever seen..."
Everyone's happy when Spiffin Brit uploads.
Exactly
Yes my friend
I know
Ya me to
Spiff's updates are completely and utterly broken
"I 1-up by stealing the pope's hat. My son 1-ups me by sleeping with my wife"
*impregnating
@@Oblithian Well, one usually follows the other.
Queens are a gift from God and all men want a gift from God. Even the straight ones. ;)
Spiff is NTR confirmed
A game that lets you fight and capture the Pope is pretty piratey but taking and equipping his hat is the most Pirate thing I've ever seen.
His life is actually a drama about a godlike Viking warrior who couldn’t die in combat, so he drank himself to death, because he knew they won’t let him in Valhalla, despite all he has done.
Now that's depressing
if only someone as great as him exist in real life, the Earth itself would be having an intense orgasm by now
Tbf drinking yourself to death is a pretty good death in Viking history, probably Valhalla worthy
@@marcmurphy581 that's a rock song waiting to happen
He did die in combat,
Combating a bottle of liquor! It just turns out the bottle was victorious in the end! 🤣
Pope: I am the Pope! God’s Voice on Earth!
Spiff: Gimme your hat
The pope has a nice hat
*Captain Jock Sparrow
"Basically these men are serving us off of hype and not pay making them very very valuable."
We're all a commodity!
Its called "Human resources" for a reason
It's basically fiat currency Invented 1600 ish years early!
Ah yes, the shady startup company experience.
I cant believe Speed Child betrayed you like that. A true mastermind philosopher indeed
the spiffing brit has literally become a bug check at this point because if there's a bug he finds it and shows just how bad it can be abused
"Just look into this man's eyes"
Ok, but you're going to have to give me some time to find his other eye
Spiffing: is British
Also spiffing: invades France
coincidence I think not!
He wants a Woman to beat his english ass nothing to worry about.
Spiff: look at how unbalanced this game is!
Also Spiff: pay no attention to the character with 2.5x the regular amount of points. :P
He’s showing off exploits, while making the game entertaining. Just bc the character is op from the start doesn’t mean the exploits aren’t there.
@@PasteGames Did this one have exploits? I can't remember as it's been months since I watched it. Given the OP starting character I wouldn't be surprised if it's not just intended game mechanics... with an OP character at the helm.
It's like when he did that video of Mega Chad doing kidnapping schemes on people and declaring war on them just before it would finish, or something like that. That wasn't an exploit - that was a regular game mechanic; it's just next to impossible without an OP character.
@@jaxsonbateman the fact that the Jock Sparrow as a vassal couldn’t be attacked because he was a vassal. No stats required to pull off that exploit, definitely an unintended game mechanic. When spiffy shows exploits he might give himself a boost to make the recording process quicker, but he rarely shows exploits that require cheats or god mode to pull off. Just because he uses a boost doesn’t mean you need it to pull off a certain exploit. You might not do it to the extent that he does lacking the boosts, but you can still pull pff the exploit.
@@PasteGames I'm not sure it's unintended given that raiding and bodyguard overlords worked exactly the same in ck2 and were regularly exploited. It's more like paradox prioritizes player agency over balance (to the benefit of fun in my opion)
@@stephenchurch1784 tbf the CK series always had more of a vibe of shenanigans and storytelling than necessarily being a balanced experience.
Fun fact the reason why pirates wore eye patches for so they could go from above and below deck quickly by having one eye accustomed to the dark.
That and whenever they looked through a telescope/sextant, sometimes they ended up staring at the sun for some reason
I do this when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night basically. So if I need a light, I still have one good eye once I turn it off
"As vikings we don't hold feudal lands, we have tribal holdings."
*Laughs in Jorvik*
More notably Haesteinn
@@Enseeyar you don’t know what notably means
I can't stop playing this game for reasons like this, every time I create a character I feel like I just painted an absolute masterpiece. An inbred masterpiece
A trailer of pony tails, if you will.
Why playing CK at all if you not gonna make an absolute bastard
Dude literally created an infinite money exploit for IRL…get paid by the developers, CZcams ad rev and Patreons ..and as long as they keep making games he’ll keep exploiting them IRL and in game. It’s absolutely perfectly balanced…
This made me uncontrollably happy.
The thought of seeing your own dynasty in motion is truly unique.
Finally, I can be recognized as a early tea drinker
Same
Same
@@thespiffingbrit NOTHING CAN STOP ME FROM EXPLOITING THE ALGORITIHM!!!!! ( I WILL SPAM THIS) EVIL GENIUS 2!!!!!!!!!
Does drinking green tea count?
I assume you're drinking some nice ear(l)y gray tea?
Only if Jock had his famous ship; The Block Peril with his friend, Black Board.
Yeah but first he and "Willis Turnedher" would have to sail across the sea to stop his mortal enemy "captain Barbedbootsa" to get the damn thing back and then there's the whole I sold my soul to "Davis boned" fiasco
"The Isle of Mann is a tiny, absolute garbage province. It's pretty much useless and has no value."
My Manx grandfather: *Breakdances in his grave*
As someone currently living on the island I concur
@@turnbu1l Please Explain
I’m genuinely curious
@@dankcatsmemes9219 am not from there but as I understand it is a shithole with fish....a suicide is regarded as "finally someone did something with their life"
@@nenadvujakovic3335 Also from the Isle of Man. Only things it has going for it are scenery, history and tax haven status.
@Ryan Carter not sure about that being a bonus personally! The money and tourism it brings are a big bonus of course but having been closely involved in the emergency services, it's not a good thing at all in terms of safety, injuries and deaths.
After such a glorious life he actually managed to live until 81 and drank himself to death - what a legend 👏
F
Play the game normally: no
Pirate simulator: yes
From what I can tell, with the exception of the bug that made you non-hostile while raiding (which has been fixed by now), this was absolutely intended to be a part of playing the game normally. It would have just taken a bit longer to get there.
@@Orillion123456 isp did it the none exploit way the difference is he sacked the byzantines instead
My favorite part of the legacy of Captain Jock Sparrow is that even the AI knew what an absolute madman he was, and sent him out the only way that is proper: with rum.
I love how the pirate plan/law is called P.R.I.C.K. XD
I like how he raided JERUSALEM with 666 troops :)
That was a hell of raided.
My dissapointment is non existent and my evening is now improved.
This is the day you will always remember as the day you've been exploited by Captain Jock Sparrow.
-Captain Jock Sparrow
Ah yes “How to play as Euron Greyjoy in CK3”
Oh my god, you brought me back to childhood with Sid Meier's Pirates! What an absolute banger of a game
You are wrong about Sid Meier's Pirates. Extremely simple and boring game. When i first played, after 10-12 hours, I realized that I would not see anything more and the game just suggests jerking off stats. It would be worth it to play Uncharted Waters 2 by KOEI.
@@Skyarkhangel Ok.
34:22 F for THE LEGEND Jock Sparrow
F for the mad lad chad!!
Thank you for this, it was a great inspiration for gameplay on ironman! I also found another exploit thanks to this gameplay - with the "wrathful" trait, you can use the "punish criminal" interaction on other characters and if you win the duel, you can ransom them as they become your prisoners. So I am running around making incredible money with high prowess and sinner chars :D
Spiff: *releases video*
Paradox: *patches same day*
* crying *
Oh, that follow up to the dynasty was so satisfying.
Duke Spiff presents: Skyrim meets HOI4 starring Reanu Keeves as Captain Jock Sparrow.
Just imagine how strong a France like that would be in EU4, starting out with the whole of France and Britain most of Western Germany, Northern Spain, Western Anatolia plus Thrace and some other bits and pieces. With complete control over the trade in all of Northern Europe and the manpower to lift those buckets full of ducats they'd slap anyone silly.
There's got to be a World War 2 joke in here somewhere.
I haven't laughed this much watching a gameplay video in a while. Thanks for the chuckles.
Spiff: "Ah i steal the Popes hat, My son steals my wife... ahh the cycle of life everybody"
Me: Im so glad im never having children
what?
@@Apollo-gd4qp watch the video again, you might click on..
No I click on, you just don’t make sense.
@@Apollo-gd4qp hmm seems to be a you problem.. if it doesnt make sence, then it doesnt make sence, just dont you worry sweetpea
@@Youre-so-right learn to spell sweetpea
I didn’t realize Spiff had gotten early access to Valhalla’s “Siege of Paris” dlc
Classic Spiff move, declaring war on France for no reason other than the lulz
Man this podcast is one of few that can make me laugh out loud. Keep em coming!
that´s gotta be the best pirate i ever seen
This should be the #1 comment.
So it would seem...
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The first move of this brit was raiding northern ireland, a classic in his culture.😀😀
Except it was not Brits that ruled The Kingdom of Mann in the ninth century.
@@PalleRasmussen What are you talking about? He's referring to Spiffing Brit controlling Jock Sparrow. You don't seem to understand the joke. It's another thing to explain a joke and take the fun out of it, compared to completely not getting it like you did.
0:32 haven't watched the video but seeing the isle of mann emblem on your last saved game I know exactly what's about to go down and how glorious it is
man the way you put exploits into perspective like "youd have to have a megaphone telling everybody 'ok we're going to raid this place next' send them a letter in advance and they gather all their gold to give you"... its genius and one of the reasons I enjoy watching your videos so much
Need the banner "Come with me on a magical money making adventure" to exist. I'll put it up on all the schools and libraries.
i’ve been waiting for him to play this again i’m so happy
Hearing you reference Sid Meiers' Pirates was an absolute treat, it is the best single player pirate game of all time
Tbh, you can absolutely do this on Iron Man with achievements enabled because it’s very easy to just eat bits of Ireland and the Northern Isles, wait until Ivan dies, declare independence, conquer the Sudreyjar and elevate the Kingdom.
Wait whoa! I thought you left Wonder Child as heir! How did Speed worm his way in there?? There's so many threads left un-pulled here!
The default succession type, confederate partition. Each child is entitled to a certain amount of titles and it will create new titles for the other kids. From the looks of it, Speed Child got the Kingdom of France while Wonder Child got the rather pitiful Kingdom of Mann and the Isles. And by pitiful, I mean that he doesn't inherit the pirate troops and only inherits the Isle of Man land-wise.
Wonder Child would have actually inherited better if Spiff conquered Strathclyde, the entire duchy north of the Isle of Man, the Suðreyjar, and the Norðreyjar and took their duchy titles before forming Mann and the Isles, as it takes the proper ownership of those duchies when formed.
As it turned out, Speed Child got the better kingdom to inherit and had an easy time winning claimant wars against his inheriting siblings.
I was sitting here just missing more crusader kings content from the spiffing Brit and an hour later the man listens to my inner thoughts and releases this banger
Please make more of this wonderful game xD you're the reason I started playing it
This video is easily one of my favorites on the channel. Incredible
"Speed Child" absolutely killed me and a good amount of tea was wasted in the process... shame on you Speed Child!
When you have you cup of Yorkshire tea gold BEFORE the video is up.
"What are you doing step-mom?" - Speed Chad, probably
Ngl with that music in the background that conclusion hit hard. It's like finishing a video game you really liked and you can't find anything like it.
As a french, i feel that i cant be here. This accent is too perfectly British for me.
Well, Spiff made sure you're Manish now
@@melskunk im now a part of the pirate family.
A true Duke of Sealand needs holdings. Like land on the Moon or Mars.
Or a whole star
The best part is that that’s like basically historically accurate Vikings LoL
i love these videos, i was not expecting the twist with queen anna.
They added culture blending and I of course had to break it. Let's just that the Roman culture being needlessly smashed together with norse is incredibly balanced. Not only do you get heavy cavalry as the norse but it is the cataphract but also there is the neat fact that adding the roman culture gives you +2 to heavy cav and heavy inf. If you don't understand why that is ridiculous understand that the Varangian Veterans are heavy infatry. They also happen to be built like trucks and get buffs from formation fighting
@@Firepoet1 culture blending yes, the cultures with Eastern Roman Traditions, no. That and super late, the Roman's get the Palatini which I am not sure why they are late medieval because from what I found, the Palatini were late 4th but who knows
Love coming back to this video😂...Still I always ask myself why you never plundered Canterbury
Top tier video. You can move where your armies are raised though to make this go even quicker
Excellent video, that was a lot of fun to watch. *Sips on green tea*
There's an even more fantastic bug during character creation if you set any Skill to '69' it changes it from 'Excellent' to 'Nice' while scrolling up/down through the numbers!
Really should have named that character "Emperor" so you could have the "Emperor of Mann" raiding the countryside.
There is nothing better than arriving home after a 24 hour shift to watch a new Spiffing video. Thank you Sir. Cheers from Hungary!
The Spiffing Brits videos are always a delight to watch
You know what would be interesting? --> Watching the Spiffing Brit make a video about how he finds and executed these massive and absolutely ludicrous exploits. A substantial number of likes on this comment would hopefully make him make a video on it and everything would be perfectly balanced then.
Also, as usual, absolutely loved this video!!
Obviously with copious amounts of Robust and Intellect.
Hes talked about it on some of his old livestreams. You can watch his original pre release Cyberpunk livestream where he figures some out within an hour of playing the game
As someone has already pointed out he has spoken about it before in a few vids. Saying it's either from finding/getting tips from various forums or figuring it out himself using past knowledge and trial/error. He mentioned that a good starting point is to look for multipliers and how they're applied as if those are easily messed with things can go wrong very quickly. Also similar types of games or games by the same company often have similar bugs so if you know an exploit that works for one game it'll often work for another.
I'm open to it but I don't know how interesting an entire video dedicated to him finding exploits would be. Searching forums, reading dms and trying/failing multiple times isn't exactly thrilling stuff and I imagine only a small percentage actually lead to anything. I'm sure he'd make it as interesting as possible but I think there's a reason the whole process isn't included in his usual videos.
Just remembered something, if anyone can back me up on this that'd be great. I'm pretty sure he mentioned something about releasing longer more detailed videos on how he finds the exploits on a different streaming platform, probably nebula/curiosity. I can't remember where I heard it but I'm pretty sure it's a thing that's happening at some point, sorry I couldn't be more helpful 🤷♀️
his level of fame is high enough, i'm sure people send him more exploits then he can use in one lifetime.
Oh my, this bring me memories of 100 stat man and Reanu Keaves
God dam I love spiffs CK videos, I am always left gasping for air by the end of them.
"Just look into the man's eyes." Spiff, that's rude! The man only has one and he's proud of it!
Spiff perfectly balancing the algorithm by changing the title a year later.
Idk if I may have impacted your decision on making a vid on this game but I'm extremely grateful. Thank you, I love this
It's legit a great experience when spiff uploads
Sid Meier's Pirates! is truly a classic but I sort of hated that it's basically borderline impossible to keep your crew happy long enough for them to stick with you for the long term. You have to constantly be making more gold and as time goes on it becomes harder and harder to keep making it, especially at the rate required to satisfy such a large crew.
Impossible? No, you just have to make a LOT of money. At 3000 gold per crew member happiness maxes out, and at 1000 they’ll never mutiny on you. And that’s really all you need.
@@stephenskinner7207 I tried every way I knew how and I never was able to make that kind of money. Even supplementing it by finding some of the lost treasures and strategic saves. Never was able to do it.
When i played the game i managed to create a utopia, my empire was about to collapse by dozens of rebels but for some reason they just never rise, apparently i had so many high dev holdings thanks to my stewardship rulers and powerful vassals, making myself so strong that the ai couldn't ever be strong enough to actually rebel, except when i'm in war, so as long as i could pull out a blitzkrieg on everyone i attacked and then gave the land to a random dude for extra border gore everything was fine, i keep going with this and expanded like crazy and almost getting a world conquest on what was very likely my third game
Those couple of months travel time are actually quite realistic; at the site of Torksey, a winter camp of the great heathen army, archaeologists uncovered a big amount of Dirhams that were actually minted after the great heathen army arrived in England. This means that the time it took for those coins to travel from their mint in Asia Minor to England took months instead of years, which is quite crazy for the early medieval period!
the speed battle canoe for CK3. Sir you are a Genius
So one thing to further break the game while staying within the achievements is that if you make your character 0 and drop all of his stats to zero, then you can just stack good buffs either congenital or just for this character and you can have a op start
Further if you wanna do the easy norse kingdom setup using the above method it makes it so much easier, ive been able to do it as soon as he turns 18. From there you can jump start your dynasty even further and by sending your heir to be tutored by any member of the highest developed/most discovered fascinations. At the same time you can build up your piety. rather than reform the astaru faith and then another generation rename it when making a new verion you can change to a new religion with similar ferver fairly easily, and then its actually a lot cheaper to make a splinter group of that religion than most of the astaru changes.