It's funny. The manufacturer took the trouble to send the LPL an "improved" lock, but didn't bother to test it ahead of time to see if it's improved. How hard would it have been to go to a competent locksmith and say "Please try and pick this lock open." These people just don't seem to believe in testing their products.
Have you considered their goal isn't to make an unpickable lock, its to make a lock the will make people feel secure. the fact is the majority of break ins do not involve picking the lock, they involve destructive methods. why take a minute to pick the lock when you can just break the window. I know for a fact that I would feel safer with an unlocked door and a large dog than I would with the most unpickable lock in the world.
Locksmith is not the same as picker. Some locksmiths do learn to pick, but their job is to service the locks, not open them. Coming to your house with an angle grinder and a drill because you forgot your keys is a side job they do because everyone asks locksmiths as the only thing in the phonebook with "lock" in the name. And a few more customer focused ones learn a small amount of picking skills to be less destructive. What's needed for this is dedicated pickers, and it's cheaper to send cheap locks to reviewers than to hire someone with the right skillset. Even hiring someone at minimum wage to watch LPL videos and try out the things on the videos on their locks would cost around 30k+/yr with all the required expenses outside of direct pay for an employee. They could send out 300 locks for less than that, and every good review is doing double work as advertisement.
One of these days, I wanna see LPL open an electronic lock and show his testing setup including a multimeter, and say, "I wanted to show you my multimeter, so you can see it's not a Fluke."
It appears the wave rake can open the lock faster than putting in the code. The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code.
"The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code" - You also don't have to worry about revealing the code to people behind you.
Thank you LPL, I've been a so called locksmith for a large county facility for years. My first lock picking device was always a drill, but not anymore. I appreciate your channel very much. Coming along with practice.
Code of conduct before sending a commercial lock to LPL 1) Ensure it can't be picked with the packaging of the product 2) Ensure it doesn't collapse if you bang it with yellow plastic 3) Ensure it resists a wave rake. well... it's 66% LPL compliant, you can print it in the ad.
Don't forget that when LPL get bored with something, it ends up at McNally driveway chained to a mannequin where he opens it with a construction square.
I think this might be one of the scariest videos of this October. Three sweeps in under one second with the wave rake on the first try and a total of three seconds on the second try - this is one scary lock!
If it was advertised as low security I'd have no problem with it... sometimes you just need to keep people out of a simple storage closet to keep things like soap, paper, office supplies, etc... from being taken, or electronics messed with by someone who "thinks they can fix it". (imagine a small office environment) everyone is already employed and in the building, the lock does not need to be very secure.
Look into the KABA simplex story - it'll blow your mind. Ended up in a court of law and all sorts - what they continued selling after a vulnerability was exposed is crazy.
LPL is excellent at voiceover. He makes sure every single word is enunciated, because he does not need to sound natural. He knows the goal of these videos is not to ACT, but to INSTRUCT. And for that reason, he puts understandability above all others. Fantastic work for the videos' purpose.
I was completely blown away that he was able to recite the number of the previous video while at the same time punching in a numeric code that's slightly different to the number he was saying. There's no way I wouldn't have mixed the numbers up somehow
It takes less time to open with the wave rake than to use the keypad. Maybe the lock manufacturer should include a wave rake along with -- or instead of -- the keys.
Most of these fly by night companies couldn't care less how well the locks work. People buy them regardless. Spending more on design work just eats into profits and could add to manufacturing costs.
I worked for Sargent Lock for 12 years in the electronic locks division. The mechanical lock division suffered heavily from NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome.
@@--_DJ_-- NIH means that unless it's designed in-house, they're not interested in input from external sources. The marketing team is who drives the product specifications. Engineering attempts to build what they specified, with compromises made in quality vs cost.
In my experience, door locks with a mechanical keypad aren't guarding anything secure anyway... they're on something like an office storeroom or bathroom, and the pin number is almost certainly something which can be described as "the top four buttons", or something that similarly doesn't require remembering the actual number.
I see the main problem with mechanical dead bolts is the fact, that the order in which the numbers are depressed isn't important. Hence a set of fingerprints on the lock gives away the combination easily. This is even worse with a shiny surface like this dead bolt has. There are two ways to tackle this issue. You could clean the surface every time after using it, or you could make sure there are fingerprints all over it by randomly tapping through all the digits regularly.
I have a Schlage push button locking latch on my front door. I was concerned that the keyed portion of the lock was the weakest link, so I rekeyed it using security pins and different spring tension springs to make it more resistant to raking and bumping as well as picking. I also installed a Mul-T-Lock Cronus Interactive+ deadbolt that's almost always locked, and beefed up the hinges and striker plate.
I've heard it said that "locks are just there to keep honest people honest". Your videos prove than in most cases, if someone really wants to get into a lock destructively or non-destructively they will.
Because the manufacturer sent LPL this lock it reminded me of another youtube channel, 'Just Rolled In', where the motor mechanic ends lots of stories with the words, 'The customer refused all repairs.' 🙂
Well, if the manufacturer realizes that they need to step their game up and sent you the lock... I guess they're trying, but they don't know how. I like how you gave them that credit. But they can ASK you or watch any of your videos and you freely tell them how to add security pins and how other manufactures make their locks more secure. Of course I wouldn't purchase their locks, but if they fix these horrible issues and make it better, then send it in to you for a review... I cannot imagine no higher praise than an endorsement from the LPL ! I hope the Manufacture also reads these comments and steps up to the challenge.
It seems to me after watching all your videos that the key lock is always the weak spot. I put super glue on my key insert it in my lock 3 or 4 times and let it dry. I never use a key anyway. I think that would make any combination/key lock more secure. If I need to use a key I break into my garage, get my carb cleaner and spray it into the key slot, and wiggle the key in until it unlocks. 😂
LOVE IT. That you show these combo, locks that have KEYS, and use the Key way to open them. Just to show,,, WHY are you putting a KEY WAY, on a combination LOCK.
These companies make themselves look bigger and safer of what they actually are. A more accurate metaphor would be challeging Mike Tyson to beat their marketing team. Lol
It's amazing that they go through the whole process of making new locks and then put the same old cheap cores in them. Was that a kwikset or schlage keyway? lol....
You should do one on the electronic Schlage BE365. The code itself only allows 3 attempts before disabling for 5 minutes, but I'm curious how [not] solid their core is.
So... With 2 months watching LPL and Bosnian Bill's videos and a couple hundreds in Covert Instrument tools I can basically become a GOD like quality tester in any of these lock manufacturers. Prove me wrong.
We had mechanical keypad lock once on a door of an apartement building. After some time the correct combination keys get dirty so you don't need to know the code even, just press all the buttons that obviously were pressed time and time again
What's the longest time it's taken you to pick a commercial lock, and what brand/model was it? Ever thought of doing reviews of the most secure locks by type (doorknob, dead bolt, padlock, etc)?
Funny thing about that type of locks do you even don't need to decode it once it have a bit of use. The only clean and shiny buttons is your combination. I also decoded similar but cheaper locks on a front door of an apartment building in Russia in early 00 simply by sound. The correct buttons made a dull sound when tapped with a finger while the inkorrect ones ringing slightly.
It seems that a lot of people misunderstand how this works. The company wasn't so proud of this improved lock that they send it to LPL. This company works with a marketing company and said company sand it to anyone who has given number of subscribers and content featuring locks, security, or anything like that.
Companies know that if you send reviewers a free product, successful reviewers know that if they give a product a bad review then they are less likely to receive free products going forward. At least LPL has integrity.
LPL got this 'improved' lock open in less than one full second. Hilarious!! [side note: LPL was slacking the second time - took him two full seconds to get it open]
hey could you do a video on a victorian secretary desk lock. I work in a used furniture store and would love to see it done with real lock picks or a proper kit. I think its a mortice lock?
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I’d say it’s quite appropriate that you usher in the Fall season with a peaceful raking video like this. Bravo!
just missing a zen garden
@pratikkore7947 That implies that he's have many locks strewn about! Each one "pickable" by raking! The sight of each shackle unlatched bringing zen.
Did the lock say "leaf me alone"?
Nice Fall (or Autumn if you prefer that) pun!
don't rake your leaves, they are an important habitat
It's funny. The manufacturer took the trouble to send the LPL an "improved" lock, but didn't bother to test it ahead of time to see if it's improved. How hard would it have been to go to a competent locksmith and say "Please try and pick this lock open." These people just don't seem to believe in testing their products.
Never try to put effort into something when all you have to do is buy the mass media.
Makes me wonder if the competitors are sending them
Have you considered their goal isn't to make an unpickable lock, its to make a lock the will make people feel secure. the fact is the majority of break ins do not involve picking the lock, they involve destructive methods. why take a minute to pick the lock when you can just break the window. I know for a fact that I would feel safer with an unlocked door and a large dog than I would with the most unpickable lock in the world.
Locksmith is not the same as picker. Some locksmiths do learn to pick, but their job is to service the locks, not open them. Coming to your house with an angle grinder and a drill because you forgot your keys is a side job they do because everyone asks locksmiths as the only thing in the phonebook with "lock" in the name. And a few more customer focused ones learn a small amount of picking skills to be less destructive.
What's needed for this is dedicated pickers, and it's cheaper to send cheap locks to reviewers than to hire someone with the right skillset. Even hiring someone at minimum wage to watch LPL videos and try out the things on the videos on their locks would cost around 30k+/yr with all the required expenses outside of direct pay for an employee. They could send out 300 locks for less than that, and every good review is doing double work as advertisement.
What did they say was the definition of madness? Same thing expecting different outcome? Crazy company!
LPL is the reason i removed all the locks on my house. Now its 100% pick proof!
😂
@michaelscarport don't forget the moat.
@@pickleeater3102and the spike pit
Bold of them to send you a lock and dare you.
out of my nine kids one came out as cisgender. We’re putting him up for adoption.
Bet they are regretting it now
@dli7423 as you should but hey 1/9 isn't bad
All balls and no brains.
@@smashyrashy wth 💀
"Please not the wave rake, please not the wave rake, please not the - "
It's funny how they genuinely believed in their product enough to send it to LPL. They should get some better engineers, and a better marketing team.
I'de like to think they got told "send it to people who may review locks" and they saw the LPL name without looking further and then sent it...
My eyes were so far in the back of my head as soon as the wave rack came out.
Negative PR is still PR - that's all marketing team read before sending it out.
Yes, do not get the idea to make a better produt. Buy the competition and mass media instead!
Engineers said it was good, someone said no it isn't and sent it to here to prove a point.
I'm not even a lockpicker but can tell that when the first go-to is a wave rake, it's a bad lock 😆
Many of the locks he single pin picks his way through could also be raked. He single pin picks for the challenge.
Still better than the "tactical ziptie" McNally sometimes uses.
I'd also call in the bypass hook, but even worse if no tools are needed at all.
@@ehsnils That tool working is just sad.
@@ehsnils Or a stick he picked up from his garden.
When I hear LPL say "novice could pick", I immediately think "uh ho, wave rake time" :D
Exactly my thoughts
Novice = Wave rake, combpick, or bypass driver.
I was thinking Lego Spaceman......
@@erinfinn2273 Or zipping it.
You had higher expectations than I did. I was thinking comb picking.
One of these days, I wanna see LPL open an electronic lock and show his testing setup including a multimeter, and say, "I wanted to show you my multimeter, so you can see it's not a Fluke."
sparky approved
*Slow clap* I like you 😂
I need a t-shirt that reads "It was not a fluke."
I would prefer to see what is a Fluke for comparison.
Good idea for LPL to add in an april fools videos
The bravery of the manufacturer sending one
Manufacturer: “Please humiliate me daddy 🥵”
It appears the wave rake can open the lock faster than putting in the code. The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code.
"The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code" - You also don't have to worry about revealing the code to people behind you.
@@nomore6167LOL
70th like
The numpad is a red herring.
@@nomore6167 or to take the key with you at this point either.
Thank you LPL, I've been a so called locksmith for a large county facility for years. My first lock picking device was always a drill, but not anymore. I appreciate your channel very much. Coming along with practice.
that's amazing!
Code of conduct before sending a commercial lock to LPL
1) Ensure it can't be picked with the packaging of the product
2) Ensure it doesn't collapse if you bang it with yellow plastic
3) Ensure it resists a wave rake.
well... it's 66% LPL compliant, you can print it in the ad.
Oh, test if it can be opened with a magnet. 😋
Add 4) Ensure it resists a magnet exploit.
Don't forget that when LPL get bored with something, it ends up at McNally driveway chained to a mannequin where he opens it with a construction square.
Write a letter for him to read long enough that is longer that the amount of time to open the lock itself.
I think this might be one of the scariest videos of this October. Three sweeps in under one second with the wave rake on the first try and a total of three seconds on the second try - this is one scary lock!
Lock company: "Okay LPL, let's see you do that again"
LPL: "Hold my pick"
Even worse. Hold my rake.... If the rake comes out you know the lock is poop.
LPL: "PICK! There was no 'r' in there!" 😺😺😺
Wave rake says it all!
Looks strong, opens easy. The company still won’t have any problem selling them online, because looks are everything. Sadly.
@@TomMcdonald9AYahooDotComThose are pretty effective. Everyone who sees it knows the owner doesn't have anything worth getting a real lock for.😂
If it was advertised as low security I'd have no problem with it... sometimes you just need to keep people out of a simple storage closet to keep things like soap, paper, office supplies, etc... from being taken, or electronics messed with by someone who "thinks they can fix it". (imagine a small office environment) everyone is already employed and in the building, the lock does not need to be very secure.
Look into the KABA simplex story - it'll blow your mind. Ended up in a court of law and all sorts - what they continued selling after a vulnerability was exposed is crazy.
I'm feeling incredibly anxious today. Law school, moving out, finances. Thanks for the calming voice.
LPL is excellent at voiceover.
He makes sure every single word is enunciated, because he does not need to sound natural.
He knows the goal of these videos is not to ACT, but to INSTRUCT. And for that reason, he puts understandability above all others.
Fantastic work for the videos' purpose.
I was completely blown away that he was able to recite the number of the previous video while at the same time punching in a numeric code that's slightly different to the number he was saying. There's no way I wouldn't have mixed the numbers up somehow
When the LPL brings out the wave rake, you know it will be a quick video.
It takes less time to open with the wave rake than to use the keypad. Maybe the lock manufacturer should include a wave rake along with -- or instead of -- the keys.
Thanks for explaining things clearly and with positive energy 🖖🏻
I am honestly surprised that some of these companies don't ask you to be involved in the design process.
his consulting hourly rate and new build would probably bankrupt them as it would actually cost some real $$$ in total
Most of these fly by night companies couldn't care less how well the locks work. People buy them regardless. Spending more on design work just eats into profits and could add to manufacturing costs.
I worked for Sargent Lock for 12 years in the electronic locks division. The mechanical lock division suffered heavily from NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome.
@JCWren Meaning they buy it from a supplier and use it in their product without any real testing?
@@--_DJ_-- NIH means that unless it's designed in-house, they're not interested in input from external sources. The marketing team is who drives the product specifications. Engineering attempts to build what they specified, with compromises made in quality vs cost.
Never disappointed by your content, been watching for quite sometime always great video and as well a owner of some of your products. Keep them coming
In my experience, door locks with a mechanical keypad aren't guarding anything secure anyway... they're on something like an office storeroom or bathroom, and the pin number is almost certainly something which can be described as "the top four buttons", or something that similarly doesn't require remembering the actual number.
There is no escape from "The Rake". "An absolute nightmare." -Lock Maker Magazine. "The scariest movie have seen in my life." -Master Lock News.
I see the main problem with mechanical dead bolts is the fact, that the order in which the numbers are depressed isn't important. Hence a set of fingerprints on the lock gives away the combination easily. This is even worse with a shiny surface like this dead bolt has. There are two ways to tackle this issue. You could clean the surface every time after using it, or you could make sure there are fingerprints all over it by randomly tapping through all the digits regularly.
there are some mechanical pushbutton locks that are sequence driven, and some that aren't.
The third method is to apply a durable matte coat to the buttons to obscure fingerprints.
Great demonstration thanks.
Double-episode not-a-fluke!
I have a Schlage push button locking latch on my front door. I was concerned that the keyed portion of the lock was the weakest link, so I rekeyed it using security pins and different spring tension springs to make it more resistant to raking and bumping as well as picking. I also installed a Mul-T-Lock Cronus Interactive+ deadbolt that's almost always locked, and beefed up the hinges and striker plate.
I have been enjoying your videos, keep up the videos.
Good that the makers are in touch, I suppose. Hope they listen to the points made in the video.
Oh, dear. Here comes the wave rake…
ASMR heaven, so mesmerizing, so short. The same words, over and over. The same tone of voice. I don't care about locks. Just have to see those vids.
I've heard it said that "locks are just there to keep honest people honest".
Your videos prove than in most cases, if someone really wants to get into a lock destructively or non-destructively they will.
Making the industry of locks better, one lock at a time.
Because the manufacturer sent LPL this lock it reminded me of another youtube channel, 'Just Rolled In', where the motor mechanic ends lots of stories with the words, 'The customer refused all repairs.' 🙂
Well, if the manufacturer realizes that they need to step their game up and sent you the lock... I guess they're trying, but they don't know how. I like how you gave them that credit. But they can ASK you or watch any of your videos and you freely tell them how to add security pins and how other manufactures make their locks more secure. Of course I wouldn't purchase their locks, but if they fix these horrible issues and make it better, then send it in to you for a review... I cannot imagine no higher praise than an endorsement from the LPL ! I hope the Manufacture also reads these comments and steps up to the challenge.
It seems to me after watching all your videos that the key lock is always the weak spot. I put super glue on my key insert it in my lock 3 or 4 times and let it dry. I never use a key anyway. I think that would make any combination/key lock more secure. If I need to use a key I break into my garage, get my carb cleaner and spray it into the key slot, and wiggle the key in until it unlocks. 😂
LOVE IT.
That you show these combo, locks that have KEYS, and use the Key way to open them.
Just to show,,, WHY are you putting a KEY WAY, on a combination LOCK.
I love it when the LPL uses the word “fluke.”
It's always funny when it takes longer to do the Covert Instruments ad than it does to rake the lock.
Look, we upgraded our deadbolt. Now it comes with a wave-rakable core
"...and then we're going to get this wave rake" was the part of this video that I laughed loudly! XD
Challenging this man to lockpicking is like challenging Mike Tyson to beat up a toddler
Only Mike wouldn't do it.
These companies make themselves look bigger and safer of what they actually are. A more accurate metaphor would be challeging Mike Tyson to beat their marketing team. Lol
Production manager: "Should we test it before sending it out?"
Management: "Nahhhh its good look it shiny!"
Great video!
It's amazing that they go through the whole process of making new locks and then put the same old cheap cores in them. Was that a kwikset or schlage keyway? lol....
a soon as he says "wave", it's over. I exclaimed "oh nooo" while shaking my head. lmao
You should do one on the electronic Schlage BE365. The code itself only allows 3 attempts before disabling for 5 minutes, but I'm curious how [not] solid their core is.
Schlage core === WAVE RAKE
When LPL grabs his wave rake, you know the lock is done at that point.
Great video 👍🔝
I about lost my mind when i saw how quick and easy that popped open
As soon as LPL said “And then we are going to get this wave rake…”, I knew this was lock entertainment in its purest form. 😂😂
So... With 2 months watching LPL and Bosnian Bill's videos and a couple hundreds in Covert Instrument tools I can basically become a GOD like quality tester in any of these lock manufacturers. Prove me wrong.
I’m so excited for the Black Friday sale
I would love to see the lock this guy would design.
Every time it's a wave rake its beautiful. Sad but beautiful.
You know it's bad when he reaches for the rake
I'd love to see a teardown of the combination mechanism. Simplex locks don't have this issue, and a 12 button Simplex would be formidable.
Lock Company: *gets positive review*
LPL: this just won't do.
Length of video 2:35 . Talking about the lock 2:01. Picking the lock, twice, a mere:34 . Priceless!
Waiting for the LPL to say "Oh, that was a fluke!"
Love your videos man keep it up 👍
"... and then we're going to get this wave rake" ... Ah sh*t, here we go again!
We had mechanical keypad lock once on a door of an apartement building. After some time the correct combination keys get dirty so you don't need to know the code even, just press all the buttons that obviously were pressed time and time again
This man must irritate a LOT of manufacturers 😂
RIP Elemake... When he busted out the wave rake I said "oh no" out loud. That was faster than picking a Master.
very informative! new subscriber:) thanks
When the rake comes out, it's all over! LOL
Wow that was fast!
Why I can't hold myself grinning and sometimes even laughing out loud when LPL takes out the wave rake
Second rake took several 100th of seconds more...
I think it was the lock's last breath.... :)
You mean rigo mortis? It was already dead.
What's the longest time it's taken you to pick a commercial lock, and what brand/model was it? Ever thought of doing reviews of the most secure locks by type (doorknob, dead bolt, padlock, etc)?
Funny thing about that type of locks do you even don't need to decode it once it have a bit of use. The only clean and shiny buttons is your combination. I also decoded similar but cheaper locks on a front door of an apartment building in Russia in early 00 simply by sound. The correct buttons made a dull sound when tapped with a finger while the inkorrect ones ringing slightly.
Whenever I see him pull out the waverake I'm just like OOOOOF.
fellas be locking the door but leaving the window wide open.
It seems that a lot of people misunderstand how this works. The company wasn't so proud of this improved lock that they send it to LPL. This company works with a marketing company and said company sand it to anyone who has given number of subscribers and content featuring locks, security, or anything like that.
LPL has me convinced the best lock is the one with the German Shepherd behind it.
38 seconds in. The Manufacturer has their answer 😅😂
I just stole your signature secret barbeque sauce by picking that same lock...lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I almost die every time the wave rake comes out 😂😂😂😂😂
LockPickingLawyer: (grabs wave rake)
Manufacturer: (facepalm)
Since they are available at all the supermarkets at the moment, YSK that those pumpkin carving knives make decent wave rakes.
Surely it can't be that bad.
**pulls out the wave rake**
Well then.
I would like to see a video explaining the design on a lock resting key.
Example, ABLOY 330.
Thanks
Wow. That's crazy it can be raked.
When LPL pulls out the wave-rake you know how bad the lock is.
I always enjoy your videos, and I frequently learn new things. One question I have is, what ever happened to Bosnian Bill?
First thought when i saw the thumbnail, was "yeah that's a rake job" haha
"Okay folks, now we did a good product, let's send it to LPL, so he's going to review it"
Famous last words.
Oh God, the wave rake.
Companies know that if you send reviewers a free product, successful reviewers know that if they give a product a bad review then they are less likely to receive free products going forward. At least LPL has integrity.
>i wonder how he's gonna
>Gets out the rake
>Oh.
Was recently in a fast food chain and they had these on the restrooms.
In that context the security level makes a little more sense I suppose.
Waiting for and instead of UL approved, LPL approved seal of approval.
LPL got this 'improved' lock open in less than one full second. Hilarious!!
[side note: LPL was slacking the second time - took him two full seconds to get it open]
The Wave Rake of Doom.
I'm convinced that LPL could open that one with just a stern look.
hey could you do a video on a victorian secretary desk lock. I work in a used furniture store and would love to see it done with real lock picks or a proper kit. I think its a mortice lock?