@@leexgx Is it $500? Because that's what the locks with integrated GPS trackers cost. On the plus side, you'll get (superior) Medeco keyway and keys with it.
I own one of these locks. I have it mounted on an automatic garage door. After getting my garage door broken into several times I finally found a padlock that nobody can pick. They might cut it off but they aren't going to pick it or bump it. I paid 225 for my lock and it's not brass I had it shipped from Bowley Lock Company in Canada to Georgia, U.S.A. It took me a while to learn how to unlock it with the key but once you get used to it it's as easy as any other lock. That key is not going to bend or break in your pocket. There is nothing made cheap about this lock. That key is stainless Steele. I love my padlock.
Does the key ever snag anything? I wear my keys on my belt loop, and I could definitely see that key ruining a sweater, catching a nylon strap, or snagging on other things. Has that been a problem?
@@ectoa5093 well, he apparently did try to pick a one-sided bowley core ( 636 ) and failed, so I guess it's fair that he didn't attempt to pick the two.sided one
I figure at some point putting more tines into the key will make the metal shroud less effective since you now only have to reach around 45 degrees rather than a full 180 with the original lock.
I love that despite all the warding and the idler making both tensioning and picking monumentally difficult, they still took the time to make security pins in there. It almost feels unsporting at that pont, like adding a fourth phase to the boss fight.
Uhhhh- Well, “difficult”. I think it’s basically impossible if you only use traditional to modern methods. You’d need a picking tool that’s shaped like that specific key to even have a chance to get to the pins. Amazing craftsmanship to make such a lock. I hope they can make similar locks, more compact, maybe cheaper.
It's because the cost difference between standard and security pins is so marginal that when you're making a lock the costs well north of $100 not adding security pins is just disrespectful to the customers at that point (this is realistically the case at any lock over $20 but that's besides the point)
Because he is being pro company and looks more like an ad, he could be harsh about it like the brass is so soft, easily cut with a 10$ powered reciprocal saw
@@shable1436 they make a steal one, and sure lol, try that, be my guest, you'd be there screaming away for 3 mins. HEY, HI, IM STEALING YOU SHIT! And of course he's pro company, he's a lock geek, this is the first real advance in mechanical lock tech in out lifetime, this lock is a big fucking deal. Looks like your down 18::1 on your opinion as well, yikes.
The only additional protection this adds over regular locks is the 0.000000001% of people who could possible pick it. Better off buying a $30 padlock 🔐
@@TheNuclearBolton I'm a fairly recent lockpicker myself and many cheap padlocks like that don't really require much skill as far as I'm aware of. It usually requires tools tho. There are rake-able locks in that price range. I even showed a co-worker who has never done it before and she picked up a lock in a couple of minutes, first try
@@Shuffle_Gaming yeah especially i work as a Landscaper and we secure our (wooden) tool chests with padlocks if someone really would want our tool they would break the chest or attack literally anything else. locks are honestly only there to keep people from casually stealing your shit. if someone wants to steal your stuff they will find a way
Another selling point: the key looks like an ancient artifact straight from an Indiana Jones movie. It'll probably unlock an ancient door under the Eiffel tower leading to the chamber of the Forgotten Kings that contains the real Mona Lisa.
I watch this channel, and I don't care about locks. I watch "Forgotten Weapons", and I _really_ don't care about guns. I just enjoy mechanisms, and skilled people explaining them to dumb-me :-)
Thing is, this wouldn't be an original concept and he wanted to try and approach the project with no prior knowledge of locks. It's what made his original locks actually very impressive and difficult to pick (lpl didn't actually pick any of them he just exploited other weaknesses which are more easily removed)
@@terrorhuhn9192 Yeah, you could build a very specialized tool that could open this easy. I have some ideas about the design. But such a tool would never be proliferated beyond a handful of ethical enthusiasts with a high degree of manufacturing capability who would never try to pick a lock they didn't own themselves. It would never have a commercial market, so they'd have to be custom made by said enthusiasts, and even if the plans were made available publicly, no criminal would spend the time and money to custom build their own for a lock they're probably never going to see in the real world anyway. The threat model becomes a state actor with an unlimited budget and they're probably not targeting you unless you're doing something very illegal or very unusual. And that that point, what is the chances for a sneak-and-peek over more kinetic alternatives by some tier 1 types at 3 AM ending with you in a head bag or body bag? If they wanted to do a sneak-and-peek, I'm sure they could always just destroy the lock, replace it with an identical one, and you wouldn't know the difference anyway. Heck, they could replace your whole door. They'd get things down even to the scuff marks and paint chips. Is there a weaker part in your security, such inadequate intrusion detection? A lock this good is only good for forcing a destructive entry so you can file a police report and insurance claims. Or, for simple enjoyment by lock nerds who like knowing they have one of the most secure locks on the market. I would say the latter is the majority of Bowley's current customer base.
Stuff made a similar concept where the pins weren't accessible to picking, although he used a different method to achieve that. It was actually quite a good design. He didn't know enough about bypass methods to guard for them though so that's how lpl got through it. With some tweaks it would be a good lock.
Customer: "Hey Mr. Banker, why do you have two separate safe doors, side-by-side on your vault?" Mr. Banker: "The first one had a Bowley lock and we lost the keys. It was the easiest solution..."
@@georgiykireev9678 Sufficient brute force will destroy ANY lock. Think diamond drill or plasma cutter. The point of the lock is to make you use brute force.
Ever see the episode of The Andy Griffith Show where they forget the combination to the safe so they install a screen door in the alley to get in? Hilarious.
@@DavidFMayerPhD personally, i'd go for a sledgehammer... if you hit it downwards, you're only fighting 2 parts, depending on what they use to lock the loop in place, it could be easier than cutting the loop or drilling the body
@@majan6267 And 500€ is not even a lot for a bike. You can easily spend thousands for a bike. Now put in some E-bike components and you are looking at a 3000-5000€ bike if you want premium everything.
They gave him the smaller door lock before thus and he went down the list of picking method and why they wouldn't work. Bowley is the gold standard of unpickable
Also Bowley: And ya know what, add a spool pin and serrated pin just in case somebody manages to get a pick in there, just to make it that much harder.
I think it's the first time I've heard LPL give a compliment to a lock. The engineering on this thing is awe inspiring. I'm a mechanic and this is so interesting to me!
yeah tough luck 'cos if you're going to steal a bike you're more likely to come prepared with lock breaking tools, and breaking a chain with a ramset sounds pretty impossible to me.
when I found this channel I were wondering if there was a lock he couldn't (or at least wouldn't try to) lockpick, and now I found a video. I feel like I have just experienced the satisfaction of scratching an itch I didn't even know I had.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that this one is probably the closest a lock will ever get to being “pickproof” in a long time. Edit: I’d like to reiterate that I said PICK-proof. A cutting wheel and a blowtorch is not lock picking
The thing is, that this here is a commercially mass produceable lock, while the stuff made here one is so incredibly specific and has so many unreliable parts, that you cant realistically mass produce it
I think that Bowley's willingness to let LPL disassemble their lock on video speaks to the excellence of the design. Whats really smart about it is if you were to invent a pick for this, it would somehow have to be able to push in, then BACK DOWN the lock and still be able to push the pins in... and even if you COULD make a pick that complex, the components would be so thin that torsioning the lock would make them snap. It's impeccable engineering.
I own a Bowley 543 in hardened Stainless and I can say after 2 years outdoors in the Pacific Northwest with once weekly use, it still looks as good as the day I bought it. Beautifully made product and as LPL says, the key is much more robust than it appears. Great conversation piece for many people, lock nerds, machinists, people in high theft areas...
11mm shackle! Awesome as it means it will work in most self storage units. What people don't realize is that if a lock can be picked leaving no signs, your insurance won't pay. Forced entry will be required to bypass this. This lock defeats storage places with rotten employees or managers.
I didn't think of that. It'll at least make it less of an easy target than someone else's storage. Motion sensors that "phone home" are probably better, though.
@@ChickenPermissionOG that is absolutly correct. Without any sign of damage on lock insurance company won't pay you. Luckilly thiefs know that and usually make sure there are visible scratches (made after succesful lock picking) just so your insurance company pays you. What is the source of that? Thiefs who got caught tella the police and that part of information (after the case is closed) is not secret so they told to tv/news reporters.
@@ChickenPermissionOG Why doubt it? You think insurance will pay without an investigation? Claim are rejected if there's no clear proof. Insurance companies are businesses not charity.
@@sarasotauptoseattle Were those two locks ones where you just put something inside and jiggle it around and it opens? So basically were they Master Locks?
@@hulksmash3429 No. They were combination padlocks. I didn't use any tools. I just put tension on the shackles and moved the dials until I felt them set, then "Presto".
Thanks to you, if I ever need a secure lock I will consider Bowley locks. Because they're just genius! Make the lock pick proof by adding in a mechanism where only the key can get access to the pins? Brilliant!
I started lock picking recently thanks to this channel. And I have found a lot of joy in this hobby. That being said, I've never had a nerd gasm like I have after seeing this lock.
I love technology like this. Fascinating the amount of science and tech that goes into creating a mechanical device. That said if that was a key you had on your keyring, it looks like those two "hooks" might snag on everything... clothing, etc.
Such a beautifully designed piece of work and without a keen eye the likelihood of someone breaking into it is just so minimal that you would not even have to worry.
@@BMikeAD actually good point. in a workshop I know of in canada, the main measure is inches, so American machinery can be used. which makes sense for a machined lock...
j Walster that’s not the reason we use imperial. Canada is not fully metric due to our roots being tied to the UK (before they were metric) and our close proximity to the US so when they began the conversion to metric in the 70’s there was a lot of resistance so it’s a big mish mash of both. We use kilometres instead of miles and litres instead of gallons at gas stations but when talking about length and weight, we usually use feet/inches and pounds. Height, weight, how much you bench, the length of a room, size of your tv, length of a piece of lumber or a pool, etc. We use mainly imperial in government documents, even our height is listed in centimetres on our drivers licences but in everyday life we use imperial for height and weight.
@@Cailloumax That generates noise, and noise brings unwanted attention. Running around with tools big enough to break through this giant thing also attract some attention.
Never thought i'd find these videos so enjoyedable but damn the random lock facts and the excitement watching you pick it hoping you fail but knowing you're going to open it everytime is a thrill.
the lock is only like 150$ about. Its expensive but its not crazy expensive for a high security lock. You use this for applications where the thing youre protecting is worth far more than 150$, maybe something like a storage unit or shed, where the tools and materials you have inside are far more valuable.
@@jeffperron3915 its not, its just the internet, you can never tell when people are being sarcastic or not without things like voice infliction or facial reactions. Youd be surprised at the number of people on here who actually think dumb things that youd expect were sarcastic.
He said in the video he’d need to make a custom tool to pick it so it’s probably a lot of work to make a tool that’d only be usable on a very specific lock.
@@caster269 I think the u-shape pick also needs to be pin-specific because of the pin shield. You cannot pick all the pins with the same lenght tool. If there's a key, sure it's pickable, but I guess this would need 5 to 9 custom single picks and a lot of time.
The elegance of this lock really puts me in a good mood about human beings in general. Also, thanks for keeping your channel and videos simple: no music, no swirling logos, just the good stuff.
@@Chetanarora2308 what? i cant hear you, i have my airpods in. also not sure if you're joking about it or not, but wireless in-ear headphones have been a thing for a while and apples suck just as much as the rest
That is why the keyring goes into ur left pocket and ur phone WITH the headphones I to the right pocket of ur pants. This way it can be easily avoided and wouldnt even have to shed 2 brain cells to come up with that idea.
Oh, I finally understood what he meant by "You will dump a lot of pins" in regards to disassembling it while it's unlocked. The actuator goes in a hole that is just big enough for the ball bearings to fit through, so when the lock is unlocked, the ball bearings are stuck to the magnet of the actuatory and if you try to pull out the locking mechanism, the lock will gut itself because you're effectively pull the bible off the core, which is being held inside the lock body by the bearings. If the lock is locked, the bearings are out of the way and stay inside the lock nody while you pull out the mechanism
I think it would be a good option to have the lock without any company or other identifiers on it. Reason being, might prevent someone from looking up videos on how to pick or otherwise circumvent the lock.
zwz • zdenek Honestly I think it'd be interesting to see if a theif tries and fails and possibly gets caught instead of moving to easier targets to steal from.
I don't think any thief, even unaware of what lock he's facing, would spend more than a minute on this before figuring out that he doesn't stand a chance.
I have just had my first play with my Genesis Set. I picked the lock on our bike store in less than 15 seconds. It is the first time I have ever picked a lock. I think I am going to enjoy this hobby (and will be going out soon to buy a better lock).
As far as the key goes even if it is strong and won’t break I would honestly worry about it getting fought on something. I wouldn’t mind seeing like a rubber cap or something for the key
The design makes it get caught on stuff such as rubber bands, another Keychain if you have multiple, hair ties if your female and use them, etc. Rubber cap would be great
This may be one of my favourite LPL videos just because you can tell how excited he is to be playing with a new toy :) Always fun watching him tear apart a terrible lock, but seeing this is definitely a highlight too.
This is the most interesting video of all the LPL videos so far.. it explains how each component placement is critical inside the lock. Other videos are of course good, however we tend to know that the lock is going to be picked 😁. This wasn't a standard LPL video..nice one.
Preston Henson Oh, is that just an Australian delicacy? Salad is iceberg lettuce, slice of tomato, some onion, some grated carrot, some avocado, a couple of slices of sweet beetroot and some mayonnaise! Of course it can contain anything you prefer!
@@MrPeelcam hmm... Should a trust a Canadian that they aren't part of a Canadian cult?... IDK... Seems suspicious. Haha I'm just kidding, I have no clue what's going on, I'm just joking around because I'm bored. Side note, go chug some syrup and say sorry to someone for absolutely no reason, this is what comedy media tells me you people do LMAO prove you're a normal Canadian and not a cult follower, cults never apologize. And they are far to bitter to enjoy sweet things like syrup, or so I'd like to assume.
Those dang ball bearings (that lock the shackle) are a pain in the rear to get back into the lock, lol there fun as the holes in the hole there don't sit right at the bottom. I own a Stainless 543 lock and had a lot of fun getting those back in without the other one falling out lol its fun! Other than that the locks are a absolute beast! Plus like others have said the keys are one of the strongest keys I've ever seen and made totally of solid steel!
-Sees bike with *this* lock.
-*Breaks* *lock's* *chain*
-*Leaves* *bike* *steals* *lock*
I mean, you won't be able to use the lock since you wouldn't be able to pick it open. It would just be a trophy.
But it'd be an _awesome_ trophy.
I hope it have a integrated GPS tracker in it for that price
You are obviously not familiar with hardened security chain.
@@leexgx Is it $500? Because that's what the locks with integrated GPS trackers cost. On the plus side, you'll get (superior) Medeco keyway and keys with it.
@@agentvx8320 bro, chill.. it was a joke
Imagine making a lock and it being highly regarded by the lpl
If it’s gonna happen it’s gonna be the next vid
I've never seen a lock he can't pick.....
@@jeffward6239 I've seem him use gallium to eat threw locks this guy is the lock terminator lawyer
Sponsored content always gets praised.
@@nekomushi7067 probably because he only accepts the ones he likes
"Bigger isn't always better, if it renders the lock unusable."
Wise words for many applications.
Different shackles fit different holes, all a matter of preference
"That's what SHE said?!" Lol
Exactly the Same as a large penis vs a small vagina i guess 🤷♂️
Do you want a key that opens up every lock, or a lock thats opened by every key?
-the vibes I got from this comment 😂
Yeah a big hammer proves to be more of a hinderance as time has went on
I own one of these locks. I have it mounted on an automatic garage door. After getting my garage door broken into several times I finally found a padlock that nobody can pick. They might cut it off but they aren't going to pick it or bump it. I paid 225 for my lock and it's not brass I had it shipped from Bowley Lock Company in Canada to Georgia, U.S.A.
It took me a while to learn how to unlock it with the key but once you get used to it it's as easy as any other lock. That key is not going to bend or break in your pocket. There is nothing made cheap about this lock. That key is stainless Steele. I love my padlock.
Does the key ever snag anything? I wear my keys on my belt loop, and I could definitely see that key ruining a sweater, catching a nylon strap, or snagging on other things. Has that been a problem?
@@CasualDandyAkaSqwrty If you're worried about the key snagging, you could wrap the key in something.
@@Indigo199517 there's also covers for the blade of the key
Just camp out in your garage and shoot the robbers in the face. Simple
I’ve heard that master locks are really hard to pick
You know it's a good lock when he doesn't even try to pick it
It was more of a sponsor, so he wouldn’t show off how to pick it. But im not sure how you’d pick around that pin shield anyway
@@ectoa5093 well, he apparently did try to pick a one-sided bowley core ( 636 ) and failed, so I guess it's fair that he didn't attempt to pick the two.sided one
@@enteelch1717 fair point
@@ectoa5093 nope its cuz he cant pick it 🤣🤣 he just wont admit it
@@pawelwityk1963 he admitted it in video 636.
"The other variations of this lock were given to two other channels"
My brain: "three rings were given to the elves"
How come im the only reply so far? This is a whole month later
Daniel Liu because it’s a year old vid not many are scrolling through the comments after a year
@@AlleywayMurder but the thing is that before a month there should be people replying
Daniel Liu no
@@AlleywayMurder If you say so... In my opinion someone should have replied about a month ago.
Now I want to see a quadruple Bowley lock with a cross-shaped keyway.
I figure at some point putting more tines into the key will make the metal shroud less effective since you now only have to reach around 45 degrees rather than a full 180 with the original lock.
@@khangtruong98 Good point.
So, the key from the 5th Element.
That is literally just lock pickers nightmare
More. More! MORE! Mooooooaaaaarrrr!
I love that despite all the warding and the idler making both tensioning and picking monumentally difficult, they still took the time to make security pins in there. It almost feels unsporting at that pont, like adding a fourth phase to the boss fight.
That 4th phase is called an Encore. ;)
Uhhhh- Well, “difficult”. I think it’s basically impossible if you only use traditional to modern methods. You’d need a picking tool that’s shaped like that specific key to even have a chance to get to the pins. Amazing craftsmanship to make such a lock. I hope they can make similar locks, more compact, maybe cheaper.
It's because the cost difference between standard and security pins is so marginal that when you're making a lock the costs well north of $100 not adding security pins is just disrespectful to the customers at that point (this is realistically the case at any lock over $20 but that's besides the point)
@@kenjiroumiyamoto1432as far as I know, no one has successfully picked this lock to date. I could be wrong on this but this is a very secure lock
@@kenjiroumiyamoto1432 so you essentially need the key, to pick the lock without a key...
"Mr Bowley, we're making our first ever padlock, what security features should we put in it?"
**"All of them"**
Dillon Warcup The funny answer is ”Yes”
And double it
Eeeeeeeveeeeeeerythiiiiiiiing
u forgot the *bold*
edit thanks u fixed it
Oh! Don't forget to send it to LPL
WHAT?!
Ha they've got your videos up on their website. They really appreciate you.
Because he is being pro company and looks more like an ad, he could be harsh about it like the brass is so soft, easily cut with a 10$ powered reciprocal saw
@@shable1436 they make a steal one, and sure lol, try that, be my guest, you'd be there screaming away for 3 mins. HEY, HI, IM STEALING YOU SHIT! And of course he's pro company, he's a lock geek, this is the first real advance in mechanical lock tech in out lifetime, this lock is a big fucking deal. Looks like your down 18::1 on your opinion as well, yikes.
@@index7787 you mean steel right?
@just a channel i guess there's no use in pointing out that brain damaged is 2 words then huh..
@@UnacceptableViews You should have a question mark at the end of your sentence.
i wish he had a playlist for his favorite locks, i’m really interested.
I love how (relatively) simple but incredibly effective this lock design is... Hats off to Bowley
Only thing I've seen that he hasn't been able to pick.
That's a LOCK.
The only additional protection this adds over regular locks is the 0.000000001% of people who could possible pick it. Better off buying a $30 padlock 🔐
@@TheNuclearBolton I'm a fairly recent lockpicker myself and many cheap padlocks like that don't really require much skill as far as I'm aware of. It usually requires tools tho. There are rake-able locks in that price range. I even showed a co-worker who has never done it before and she picked up a lock in a couple of minutes, first try
@@revolt_4588 that's not the lock I was talking about. I was responding to NuclearBolton about the security being good enough with a 30 dollar padlock
@@Shuffle_Gaming yeah especially i work as a Landscaper and we secure our (wooden) tool chests with padlocks
if someone really would want our tool they would break the chest or attack literally anything else. locks are honestly only there to keep people from casually stealing your shit. if someone wants to steal your stuff they will find a way
What have you stolen so far ?
Another selling point: the key looks like an ancient artifact straight from an Indiana Jones movie. It'll probably unlock an ancient door under the Eiffel tower leading to the chamber of the Forgotten Kings that contains the real Mona Lisa.
Youre binging on Dan Brown books aren't you ?
@@antondegroot6061 Sounds more like Nick Cage is at it again.
Those are very recent artefacts for a indiana jones story
I hope the real Mona Lisa is bigger.
@@ChristopherMcBean why are you concerned with her size?
I’m not a lock enthusiast, but I’ve been a fan of your channel, and this video has shown the absolute beauty of how a lock can be. I’m blown away
I watch this channel, and I don't care about locks. I watch "Forgotten Weapons", and I _really_ don't care about guns. I just enjoy mechanisms, and skilled people explaining them to dumb-me :-)
Bowley: made an actual unpickable lock
Stuff Made Here: write that down, write that down!
well.. its just to unusual to have the stuff to pick it.. if its going to be ususal, there will be tools to pick it ^^
Thing is, this wouldn't be an original concept and he wanted to try and approach the project with no prior knowledge of locks. It's what made his original locks actually very impressive and difficult to pick (lpl didn't actually pick any of them he just exploited other weaknesses which are more easily removed)
@@terrorhuhn9192 Yeah, you could build a very specialized tool that could open this easy. I have some ideas about the design. But such a tool would never be proliferated beyond a handful of ethical enthusiasts with a high degree of manufacturing capability who would never try to pick a lock they didn't own themselves. It would never have a commercial market, so they'd have to be custom made by said enthusiasts, and even if the plans were made available publicly, no criminal would spend the time and money to custom build their own for a lock they're probably never going to see in the real world anyway. The threat model becomes a state actor with an unlimited budget and they're probably not targeting you unless you're doing something very illegal or very unusual. And that that point, what is the chances for a sneak-and-peek over more kinetic alternatives by some tier 1 types at 3 AM ending with you in a head bag or body bag? If they wanted to do a sneak-and-peek, I'm sure they could always just destroy the lock, replace it with an identical one, and you wouldn't know the difference anyway. Heck, they could replace your whole door. They'd get things down even to the scuff marks and paint chips. Is there a weaker part in your security, such inadequate intrusion detection? A lock this good is only good for forcing a destructive entry so you can file a police report and insurance claims. Or, for simple enjoyment by lock nerds who like knowing they have one of the most secure locks on the market. I would say the latter is the majority of Bowley's current customer base.
Stuff made a similar concept where the pins weren't accessible to picking, although he used a different method to achieve that. It was actually quite a good design. He didn't know enough about bypass methods to guard for them though so that's how lpl got through it. With some tweaks it would be a good lock.
Customer: "Hey Mr. Banker, why do you have two separate safe doors, side-by-side on your vault?"
Mr. Banker: "The first one had a Bowley lock and we lost the keys. It was the easiest solution..."
Jokes aside, this doesn't look too hard to brute force through if you really want to
@@georgiykireev9678 Sufficient brute force will destroy ANY lock. Think diamond drill or plasma cutter. The point of the lock is to make you use brute force.
Ever see the episode of The Andy Griffith Show where they forget the combination to the safe so they install a screen door in the alley to get in? Hilarious.
Their lock was easily picked.
@@DavidFMayerPhD personally, i'd go for a sledgehammer... if you hit it downwards, you're only fighting 2 parts, depending on what they use to lock the loop in place, it could be easier than cutting the loop or drilling the body
When the lock cost more than your bike
Use a lock to lock up the lock
you put the lock on your bike, and another lock so they can't steal the lock.
When i got myself a new bike after the old one was stolen, i decided to go at least 1:4 so my 500€ bike is now protected by a 125€ Abus Granit lock
@@majan6267 And 500€ is not even a lot for a bike. You can easily spend thousands for a bike. Now put in some E-bike components and you are looking at a 3000-5000€ bike if you want premium everything.
Yeah should be 1 1/4.
I really like locks with exotic keys because it often means that you need a much rarer tool or skill set to open it. Which makes it much more secure.
Can you imagine the excitement when the Bowley lock company saw his video and he couldn't pick it!
They gave him the smaller door lock before thus and he went down the list of picking method and why they wouldn't work.
Bowley is the gold standard of unpickable
He couldn't pick the original so they already knew he couldn't pick the upgraded version.
Tears in their eyes! :)
Never knew I had a lock fetish until I found this channel.
Jungle Ginger lmao
Hahah, it’s the journey that’s exciting.
Me too, strangely :D
x2
I just became like number 666
Bowley: has U shaped key that’s nearly unpickable
Also bowley: another one
W ones
A double U shape is you will ;']
next up three u's
Also Bowley: And ya know what, add a spool pin and serrated pin just in case somebody manages to get a pick in there, just to make it that much harder.
they could also slap in some pin traps like video 1181, that would be overkill tho
I think it's the first time I've heard LPL give a compliment to a lock. The engineering on this thing is awe inspiring. I'm a mechanic and this is so interesting to me!
“A very nice product.” Some of the few lines LPL will say... means like Medal of Honor for locks.
Probably easier to attack the chain at that point.
yeah tough luck 'cos if you're going to steal a bike you're more likely to come prepared with lock breaking tools, and breaking a chain with a ramset sounds pretty impossible to me.
Certainly the weakest link
better yet, dismantle the bike and sell it part by part
I think it's cheaper to cut a section off the bike rack and steal the bike lock and chain together
@@mx_nana_banana I've heard the battery powered angle grinder being used
This thing is going to need a special "Tool that BosnianBill and I designed" to pick it.
Hahahahahuhhuhahhhuahuaahuha
That's what I was thinking. Maybe a cable-pulled rake?
Unfortunately, it'll never happen....
Guts theme plays when you realize BosnianBill will never design a tool with LPL again
@@RealCoolstriker64 hhhhhhhhhwhy?
when I found this channel I were wondering if there was a lock he couldn't (or at least wouldn't try to) lockpick, and now I found a video. I feel like I have just experienced the satisfaction of scratching an itch I didn't even know I had.
I don't even care about locks, but for some reason you somehow make me binge-watch lock videos
as an apprentice machinist, i can appreciate the cuts and finishes of the parts, great lock! now to use it to lock up my $40 walmart bike
Don't worry, the lock will not be damaged.
They'll break the bike and steal the lock.
dont be suprised if you find your bike flexed apart and the lock being gone
@@Cenentury0941 I’ll
@@Cenentury0941 sa
Did I ask about your stupid ass Walmart bike
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that this one is probably the closest a lock will ever get to being “pickproof” in a long time.
Edit: I’d like to reiterate that I said PICK-proof. A cutting wheel and a blowtorch is not lock picking
@@abrother9821 I was boutta mention this video 😁
@@abrother9821 Even if the Stuff Made Here lock turns out to be pickable, I doubt it will be pickable with any existing, well known methods.
@@abrother9821 The avarice of "it's unpickable if it doesn't have a key." That's what bypassing is for, friend.
The thing is, that this here is a commercially mass produceable lock, while the stuff made here one is so incredibly specific and has so many unreliable parts, that you cant realistically mass produce it
I mean arent digital looks pickproof
Even tho most have some sort of exploitable thing
I think that Bowley's willingness to let LPL disassemble their lock on video speaks to the excellence of the design. Whats really smart about it is if you were to invent a pick for this, it would somehow have to be able to push in, then BACK DOWN the lock and still be able to push the pins in... and even if you COULD make a pick that complex, the components would be so thin that torsioning the lock would make them snap. It's impeccable engineering.
I own a Bowley 543 in hardened Stainless and I can say after 2 years outdoors in the Pacific Northwest with once weekly use, it still looks as good as the day I bought it. Beautifully made product and as LPL says, the key is much more robust than it appears. Great conversation piece for many people, lock nerds, machinists, people in high theft areas...
11mm shackle! Awesome as it means it will work in most self storage units. What people don't realize is that if a lock can be picked leaving no signs, your insurance won't pay. Forced entry will be required to bypass this. This lock defeats storage places with rotten employees or managers.
I doubt that.
I didn't think of that. It'll at least make it less of an easy target than someone else's storage. Motion sensors that "phone home" are probably better, though.
@Robert Slackware Ye olde Silence of the Lambs storage setup
@@ChickenPermissionOG that is absolutly correct. Without any sign of damage on lock insurance company won't pay you.
Luckilly thiefs know that and usually make sure there are visible scratches (made after succesful lock picking) just so your insurance company pays you.
What is the source of that? Thiefs who got caught tella the police and that part of information (after the case is closed) is not secret so they told to tv/news reporters.
@@ChickenPermissionOG Why doubt it? You think insurance will pay without an investigation? Claim are rejected if there's no clear proof. Insurance companies are businesses not charity.
Imagine him going to one of the bridges where there are a bunch of lovelocks. He is there and after like 5 min all lovelocks gone.
Probably he can make money off that
There are people that are paid to cut the locks off as the weight could cause a collapse if left alone too long.
I was just at one of those bridges. I was able to get two locks without any tools.
@@sarasotauptoseattle Were those two locks ones where you just put something inside and jiggle it around and it opens? So basically were they Master Locks?
@@hulksmash3429 No. They were combination padlocks. I didn't use any tools. I just put tension on the shackles and moved the dials until I felt them set, then "Presto".
Thanks to you, if I ever need a secure lock I will consider Bowley locks. Because they're just genius! Make the lock pick proof by adding in a mechanism where only the key can get access to the pins? Brilliant!
I started lock picking recently thanks to this channel. And I have found a lot of joy in this hobby. That being said, I've never had a nerd gasm like I have after seeing this lock.
Lockpickinglawyer: doesn't even attempt to pick the lock
Me: I'll take your entire stock
$163 US is pretty expensive though
@@bazil4146 the joy of the security arms race.
And whatever it's locking to needs to be as strong as the lock.
"five quarters of an inch"
wtf guys, this is really getting out of control
Annoy-o-tronino Kripperino cracked me up this is funny af
Yeah, it's so improper.
Eric Y you could say it’s an improper fraction...
@@PandaMan937 That's the joke.
Wait till you try adjusting your guitar neck and find an American manual talking about 7/64th of an inch..
I love technology like this. Fascinating the amount of science and tech that goes into creating a mechanical device. That said if that was a key you had on your keyring, it looks like those two "hooks" might snag on everything... clothing, etc.
Such a beautifully designed piece of work and without a keen eye the likelihood of someone breaking into it is just so minimal that you would not even have to worry.
-canadian lock
-measured in inches
We use both here.
@@BMikeAD actually good point. in a workshop I know of in canada, the main measure is inches, so American machinery can be used. which makes sense for a machined lock...
j Walster that’s not the reason we use imperial. Canada is not fully metric due to our roots being tied to the UK (before they were metric) and our close proximity to the US so when they began the conversion to metric in the 70’s there was a lot of resistance so it’s a big mish mash of both. We use kilometres instead of miles and litres instead of gallons at gas stations but when talking about length and weight, we usually use feet/inches and pounds. Height, weight, how much you bench, the length of a room, size of your tv, length of a piece of lumber or a pool, etc. We use mainly imperial in government documents, even our height is listed in centimetres on our drivers licences but in everyday life we use imperial for height and weight.
@@dlee6985 Being Canadian can be complicated.
BMikeAD same in the USA. Science trades tend to use metric.
OH MY GOD... My worst nightmare. A lock that he can't pick. This lock is too dangerous to exist
He says the body is brass, meaning that you can destroy it with standard cutting tools
@@Cailloumax Non destructive, Not Everyone can break a lock on the go
@@Cailloumax Yeah you can but your not gonna be very stealthy.
@@Cailloumax That generates noise, and noise brings unwanted attention. Running around with tools big enough to break through this giant thing also attract some attention.
Important word you're missing is "yet"
Never thought i'd find these videos so enjoyedable but damn the random lock facts and the excitement watching you pick it hoping you fail but knowing you're going to open it everytime is a thrill.
I feel like if I bought this lock I'd have to buy a safe to put the lock in to protect the lock
A safe with a quadruple (cross-shaped) Bowley lock.
the lock is only like 150$ about. Its expensive but its not crazy expensive for a high security lock. You use this for applications where the thing youre protecting is worth far more than 150$, maybe something like a storage unit or shed, where the tools and materials you have inside are far more valuable.
@@eragon78 i feel like sarcasm is lost on you 😕
@@jeffperron3915 its not, its just the internet, you can never tell when people are being sarcastic or not without things like voice infliction or facial reactions.
Youd be surprised at the number of people on here who actually think dumb things that youd expect were sarcastic.
@@eragon78 Yeah right, a shed, where you can cut your way in with a pair of tin snips...lol
10:43 I love rare earth maggots
Lol. Me too!
How do they work
@@darrianweathington1923 very well
X-D
LockPickingLawyer great videos. Sometime you should put a lock back together that you have torn apart
I'm sad you didn't even try to pick it
I'm sure it's because he can't because Bowley locks are crazy.
He said in the video he’d need to make a custom tool to pick it so it’s probably a lot of work to make a tool that’d only be usable on a very specific lock.
@@caster269 I think the u-shape pick also needs to be pin-specific because of the pin shield. You cannot pick all the pins with the same lenght tool. If there's a key, sure it's pickable, but I guess this would need 5 to 9 custom single picks and a lot of time.
He can't.
He can't yet, no one can. They will eventually.
This is definitely one to get! TY! For giving this lock company some exposure !
LPL : "It weighs 3 pounds"
Macbook users : *spitting their coffee*
The elegance of this lock really puts me in a good mood about human beings in general. Also, thanks for keeping your channel and videos simple: no music, no swirling logos, just the good stuff.
remember, it is because of humans that this lock was needed in the first place
@@mischievousone3421 exactly
LPL: *something about pins*
Me, who has no idea what he's talking about But likes his content anyway: :)
why you attacking me?
You eventually understand what is he talking about, its a weird way of learning
I have no clue but i been learning.
Must be your first video :p
Me this guy does
12 minutes?? wow this is gonna be good
I say this in the best way possible. Your videos are amazing for helping me go to bed, perfect background noise.
This key legit look like a keyblade design that could be used in Kingdom Hearts 3.
I said something similar!
Lam Duong Tung 🤣🤣😂hell yeah
Yeeees
It would be the most secure kingdom hearts ever!
You know the locks good when the videos over 5 mins
And that's even without him trying to pick it.
Wow, the first time I seen LPL's approval while browsing through the channel
It's the first video were I see you being the lawyer and defending the lock instead of being the judge and sentencing it to the trash can.
I love how he doesn't even attempt to lockpick it.
I think the short answer is that he could do it, but he would need to build a custom tool to actually access the pins.
@@GR20000 That's true, although I did watch this when I first started watching his videos so I didn't know the amount of skill that this guy has.
@@GR20000 couldn't you just make a key?
@@CamdalftheGreat he mentions in 636 how difficult it is to impression
@@mhx5071 thanks! I'll check it out
Lockpickers: I have no remorse, and nothing bothers me at night.
Bowley lock: *are you sure*?
Leaving a like and a comment for the recounted back-and-forth concerning the shackle. That sort of insight is exactly why we come here
Beautifully made and well thought mechanism
Imagine getting your headphone cable in your pocket all tangled up in that key.
That would be utterly horrible. I'd end up cutting the headphones off and getting new ones! Lol. 😅😂
@@Chetanarora2308 what? i cant hear you, i have my airpods in.
also not sure if you're joking about it or not, but wireless in-ear headphones have been a thing for a while and apples suck just as much as the rest
That is why the keyring goes into ur left pocket and ur phone WITH the headphones I to the right pocket of ur pants. This way it can be easily avoided and wouldnt even have to shed 2 brain cells to come up with that idea.
Chetan Kumar apple created a problem and gave it an expensive solution
@@MoundN it's a joke. Don't get triggered.
LPL: This is a very nice product.
Me: Just ordered one even I have no use for it.
Did you ever find a use for it?
Still waiting if you found a use
It’s going up on my Christmas tree this year.
@@altercaze ok
@@altercaze that's one secure tree
That lock is a MONSTER!
And their cores are pretty smart
No idea how I got here or why I'm watching these, but carry on.
My dad always said: "if someone put it together, I can take it apart"
This man is that saying on steroids XD
Add two more tines and this will start looking much closer to the key from Fifth Element.
He's actually had some old European locks that looked very similar to that one.
Oh, I finally understood what he meant by "You will dump a lot of pins" in regards to disassembling it while it's unlocked. The actuator goes in a hole that is just big enough for the ball bearings to fit through, so when the lock is unlocked, the ball bearings are stuck to the magnet of the actuatory and if you try to pull out the locking mechanism, the lock will gut itself because you're effectively pull the bible off the core, which is being held inside the lock body by the bearings. If the lock is locked, the bearings are out of the way and stay inside the lock nody while you pull out the mechanism
This is close to the 5th element's key. I love it! It's a beauty!
I think it would be a good option to have the lock without any company or other identifiers on it. Reason being, might prevent someone from looking up videos on how to pick or otherwise circumvent the lock.
Matte black Bowley STEALTH variant
About the only way anybody is going to be circumventing this lock is with a quarter stick of dynamite.
Haha no one will pick this lock man.
zwz • zdenek Honestly I think it'd be interesting to see if a theif tries and fails and possibly gets caught instead of moving to easier targets to steal from.
I don't think any thief, even unaware of what lock he's facing, would spend more than a minute on this before figuring out that he doesn't stand a chance.
RAMSET?
No, no no!!!
Don't touch her holiness
with that violent rod.
I see you're Ramset and raise you a Cut Devil.
Challenges must be presented in haiku format
I see your silly tools, and raise you with , Gallium
@@fracturedhearts3734 Broko Rod etc. ALL of these have SPECIAL penalties for use.
Any of you all know what a Cut Devil is? Its a splitting maul but for railroad track.
I have just had my first play with my Genesis Set. I picked the lock on our bike store in less than 15 seconds. It is the first time I have ever picked a lock. I think I am going to enjoy this hobby (and will be going out soon to buy a better lock).
Yes, as others have said, the lock is likely to be more attractive than the possessions it’s protecting.
“Bigger isn’t always better” .. spoken like a true gentleman
Or spoken by someone who works for Men In Black... Or by women for that matter, as I'm sure at least a few feel that way...
As far as the key goes even if it is strong and won’t break I would honestly worry about it getting fought on something. I wouldn’t mind seeing like a rubber cap or something for the key
Always Bolt the Bird want break huh? Hold my beer
Should have a rubber cap come with it with all the money it costs
The design makes it get caught on stuff such as rubber bands, another Keychain if you have multiple, hair ties if your female and use them, etc. Rubber cap would be great
Its an intersting design, but fuck having that thing in yer pocket
By the way, I love your orderly way of presentation. It’s royal, really
Picked my first lock while watching this, that click hits different when you the one doing it
This may be one of my favourite LPL videos just because you can tell how excited he is to be playing with a new toy :) Always fun watching him tear apart a terrible lock, but seeing this is definitely a highlight too.
I love this Lock, this is what I call a Lock.
I would aswell call it a lock.
Here, here!I vote to call it a lock also.
@@ClearAdventure I call it a parrot.
Y'all are dumb as hell.
@@catlover732
Who would lock up a parrot?
@@joezeigler1064 r/whooosh
This is the most interesting video of all the LPL videos so far.. it explains how each component placement is critical inside the lock. Other videos are of course good, however we tend to know that the lock is going to be picked 😁. This wasn't a standard LPL video..nice one.
"... out of which to make locks"
Thank you for not ending a sentence with a preposition!
Person: I need a good lock to lock up my money
*buys a lock with all the money he was wanting to lock up*
Person: ok den
I've seen this somewhere before...
Technically that’s what investing is. Put your money into something that’s worth money.
@@zachbrown1630 what if I use a $225 dollar lock to protect my spare $225 lock what then master of answers
Ah, yes, the Gift of the Magi parable.
This has to be the most pick proof lock that LPL has ever reviewed
...so it would seem...
+10 points for getting the reference.
@@scottwpilgrim I don't get it
@@wfluxyy It's from pirates of the caribbean.
I looked at the thumbnail and love the look of that lock.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Finally a padlock which is difficult to pick ☺️🙏
Lock porn, what a great design. This may have to be my first high dollar lock purchase.
The deadbolt was mine.
That brass version is a real Beauty! Great video and Thanks for the shout out! =)
Glad he did. Subscribed!
never thought I'd say this about a lock, but... that is a gorgeous lock.
Good luck putting all that back together.
So....you would recommend this one to lock up my lunchbox (I make the best chicken and salad sandwiches)?
Preston Henson Oh, is that just an Australian delicacy? Salad is iceberg lettuce, slice of tomato, some onion, some grated carrot, some avocado, a couple of slices of sweet beetroot and some mayonnaise! Of course it can contain anything you prefer!
Wait they don’t have those in the outer world?
Preston Henson aussie thing. it’s exactly what it sounds like: a salad on bread
@@stephenwoods2900 intresting here in America we iust have chicken salad and tuna salad
no to strong to steal by pick. will drill your lunchbox and steal the sandwich. I want it. I will get it.
Given that they are Canadian I find it obligatory to quote AvE that it's "skookum as frig"
Costs quite a few doll hairs though.
Wtf is happening here?!
@@MrPeelcam IDK.. I assume some Canadian cult tradition.
@@bloodlove93 I'm from Canada and im glad I'm not part of this cult. I'm sorry.
@@MrPeelcam hmm... Should a trust a Canadian that they aren't part of a Canadian cult?... IDK... Seems suspicious.
Haha I'm just kidding, I have no clue what's going on, I'm just joking around because I'm bored.
Side note, go chug some syrup and say sorry to someone for absolutely no reason, this is what comedy media tells me you people do LMAO prove you're a normal Canadian and not a cult follower, cults never apologize. And they are far to bitter to enjoy sweet things like syrup, or so I'd like to assume.
It's beautiful. Like a bar of gold(en) brass!
"While the lock nerd in me would really love to see something thicker, i do have to acknowledge that bigger isn't always better..... "
Beautiful design I love the simplicity of it. Vey nice lock
After so many videos, finally one that is hard enough to even attempt to pick!!
This wasn’t the ASMR we thought we wanted, but it’s the ASMR we needed.
Now I want to watch you put it back together!
It’s the first time for me that a lock impress me that much, there’s so many features and complex security thing to discourage thieft
What a great video, a joy to watch and listen to. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Tony
West Wales Locksmiths
Those dang ball bearings (that lock the shackle) are a pain in the rear to get back into the lock, lol there fun as the holes in the hole there don't sit right at the bottom. I own a Stainless 543 lock and had a lot of fun getting those back in without the other one falling out lol its fun! Other than that the locks are a absolute beast! Plus like others have said the keys are one of the strongest keys I've ever seen and made totally of solid steel!
"You couldn't break these if you tried, unless maybe if you had tools."
*Breaks key*
... Well that's gonna do it for this episode.