D&D STARTER SET Review | Dragons of Stormwreck Isle
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- Is the new D&D 5e Starter Set: Dragons of Stormwreck Isle actually better for beginner players and Dungeon Masters? Let's find out! ▶️ More below! ⏬
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00:00 is it better? YES
00:43 dnd starter set contents
01:44 NEW dnd character sheet design
03:52 dnd character sheet error?
05:00 dnd starter set rulebook changes
05:58 official dnd guide videos
07:22 the critical rule they left out!
08:50 no D&D Beyond support
10:09 Dragons of Stormwreck Isle (no spoilers)
11:24 which books are right for you?
#dnd #dungeonsanddragons #dndstarterset - Hry
PS: The island map shows it right off the Sword Coast, not far from Phandalin 😎
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That's what I most wanted to know, if it was still set in the black hole of Phandalin, the unluckiest place in the entire forgotten realms.
I'm curious about your opinion of house rules?
For example in the past me and a good acquaintance played D&D with a house rule that allowed characters to be created from other Fantasy series and lore as long as there was multiple iterations of the lore for the race that are relatively consistent. So I wonder about your opinion in regards to that.
That is good to know too. Now we can fit it into the Phandelver campaign.
"every character is an alignment of good. Now that's not a bad thing..."
That's correct. Good is not bad.
Great video bob, keep up the good work.
I had to resist going on a tangent about alignment in this video haha
Sad to see ideals, bonds, and flaws go away. I always encouraged their use and I find them more useful in role-playing than alignment.
@@BobWorldBuilder id be down to watch a while video on it.
Ive never had players who had a problem being Good. Its finding more than 1 person who actually wants to be Legitimate Lawful. Everyone is always some variation of Chaotic whether its on their character sheet or not.
@@The-0ni The problem is that most people alignment differently. For me, lawful means somebody who holds onto oaths and promises, not somebody that follows the law absolutely
The Essentials kit seems to be the best deal monetarily, especially since it can be had cheaper than list price if you look. It is nice to see they are catering the starter kit to new and beginner players more effectively.
Yeah the EK definitely highest quantity of stuff, but I think this new one will suit new players better
The Essentials Kit has more dice too.
My favorite part of the Essential Kit is the stack of status effect cards. We use those things nearly every session.
What about the Stranger Thing's starter set ?
Only thing that is lacking in essential kit is pawns.
They need to capitalize on baldurs gate players because I’m one of those trying desperately to get into this
‘Every character has a direct personal interest in the adventure’
Nice! If you’re going to give one role-playing prompt for a character, ‘what am I doing here?’ is a very solid pick.
Yeah they really kept it simple, and I think it'll pay off!
What I, as a brand new dm who is playing with brand new players, have liked about this set so far is the explanations for everything. When my nieces wanted to try the game, I volunteered to DM for them. I found a silly one-shot adventure online and, since I’ve watched a lot of videos of people playing online and some stuff from you and others, I thought I’d be ready to help everyone. I was SOOOO wrong!
All of us had questions while creating and playing their characters and running the game that I had no idea about and couldn’t find quick answers to online. One question literally took me 2 hours of searching online before I could find the answer!
Luckily, everyone still had a great time and decided to try out the new starter set. Reading through it and watching the included videos have been so helpful! They’ve answered almost every question that came up in our first game, and showed me some things I should’ve done to better prepare for the game. I’m excited to try to run it this weekend.
This is an awesome testimonial. Thanks for sharing! I'm really glad your family wanted to give it another shot and are now enjoying the game!
One tip what I did was just to make a ruling the players agreed is fair, and just continue. Then I'd search the actual rules and answer it in the next session's pre-game recap.
I think the value for money in the essentials kit is what makes it the best. More dice, more rules, poster maps, lots of handouts for players, and it comes with extra content on dnd beyond.
I agree best bang for your buck, but for a *brand new DM, I think those contents could be a little excessive/overwhelming
my essentials kit did not come with anything for dndbeyond, it was purchased only last month.
@@BeetleBuns Same here.
@@BeetleBuns Yeah mine didn't either.
Can create character too
It’s great that this is way more tailored towards the newest of new players! I always felt that the essentials kit was almost more like a quick start for groups that already have some experience, especially because like you said there’s not much DM tips. On top of that, essentials kit has really tough encounters early on that probably require the DM to do some numbers tweaking to not demolish the party lol
Totally! I think the EK, and the original Starter Set especially, were better suited for people who had some familiarity with a previous edition or as a player, but this new one sets of brand new DMs quite well
The one thing the essentials kit adventure did that most other adventures don't do is that most of the encounters are written to be scalable (e.g. "1 goblin plus 1 additional goblin for every 2 characters in the party, not counting sidekicks").
The few that are not written that way are brutal if the DM plays the monsters optimally, particularly the Talos acolytes if they start hurling lightning bolts at a party of level 3 characters and the wererats if the party doesn't have much in the way of magic at their disposal.
I give my players inspiration for showing up ready to play before or at the agreed upon time. It works great to incentivize players who already show up on time to keep showing up on time, not really an incentive for players who are usually a couple minutes late to change anything. Works well enough I'd say
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I would love if WOTC made an advanced kit for levels 6-10 like they did back in the day, since most adventures don't go to past level 12 max.
Interesting concept!
That's a great idea. I think WotC misses out on so many cool ideas. They could sell modules the size of Dragon of Icespire Peak. It has that old school magazine sized module feel and it doesn't feel as overwhelming as a full blown thick module book. I think they would sell like hot cakes.
With the essentials kit they offer a fantastic set of free level 6-12 adventures you can download on D&D beyond, that fill this niche!
@@AssortedJade and don't forget the code in the Essentials Kit box that unlocks them for free on one DDB account
However, I hate how they are digital only. I seriously wouldn't mind paying a bit more to justify printing physical versions
I think it’s great for new new players. Lost Mines was a bit to chew for a new DM. As for veterans, you get half the adventure you got in the old set….for the same price.
Yeah at this point in 5e's lifespan, it's nice to see them finally creating some products actually geared toward new players. But it's up to us who have been playing a while to realize Starter Sets may no longer apply to everyone
I appreciate that you avoided spoilers, but I'm curious about the narrative content in there. If you read the entire adventure, I'm interested to know how you think the story and overall adventure structure compares to Lost Mines or other WotC-published adventures that are aimed at new players.
Really glad to hear that they included a guide on how to prep the adventure. Some of the modules and campaigns they produced desperately needed an organizational overhaul or separate manual to decipher what to do next.
Yeah I may do a follow up just covering the adventure after I've run it
@@BobWorldBuilder will you do a guide and play through like you did with DoIP? That was really useful and fun!
I liked the essential set along with the original starter set. Took place in the same town and everything and could easily mix things together to make a whole beginner friendly campaign.
Totally agree!
been watching your videos for a long time now, and I never realized how much I love your editing. It's so well done and understated that you don't really notice and your full attention is directed towards the content while still enhancing the mood
Thank you so much!
My daughter wants to run this for her first time DMing…
She can do it!!
I will always show up to creators like yourself over official pages, community is a big part of DND. Love the content man, very informative.
I’ve been geeking out about this set all day and your video was really helpful in calming down my brain and considering all the pieces to it lol
I've been waiting for this!!!! I'm glad to see you got a box!
Yep it took longer than I planned, but I'd say it was worth the wait. I'm happy with this set!
Fantastic video.
Thank you Bob for reviewing the box set, I plan to share this with new DMs.
Thanks! Yes, more new DMs need to know about this!
Tangent, but I am hoping they release corresponding miniature sets. It was a missed opportunity from the prior starter set and essentials kits. Some players really benefit from being able to see representations of where things are. And at that time, it was very difficult to get the right miniatures together. It would be an easy enough play aid for them to do.
Totally! To me, this makes so much sense that each pregen should have a mini. "Ohhh, I pick this guy!!" New players would love that!
@@BobWorldBuilder as well as monsters...I saw that a new or upcoming set is including Gorthok. The Anchorites would have been great, too! Orcs, goblins and the like are easy enough, but there are a lot more specific creatures and characters that each of the 3 starter sets could probably benefit with some minis to go along
I watch as many videos as I can, both official, yours, and what have you. There is some really amazing content for D&D and other TTRPGs here on CZcams! Thank you for the great video as always!
Ah so nice to see you post about this! I saw a lot of videos, but they were all missing something. Apparently it was missing Bob! Best teacher of beginners like me :D
That is super kind! Thank you :)
Really appreciate your break down of the pros and cons of the starter set. Thank you!
God Bob I really like how insightful and genuine you are in your videos. This one in particular was full of a lot of heart and I liked that a lot. I wasn't sure about this box set but now I'm thinking it might be a great resource for starting out :D
Can't wait for your DM guide for this, what to change, what to add and all. Exciting.
I think the Secrets mechanic that was introduced in Icewindale Rime of the Frostmaiden are a game changer. Predefined motivations for characters to help them be invested in the campaign are so helpful for DMs to personalize the story
"Drizzt Fan"
@@kirkkerman Yeah they kinda sucked. Making someone actually invest in those secrets is harder than it looks.
@@user-dd9dh9kw5c my players loved the secrets! Especially the cannibal one. Only my husband hated them.
@@JakeConrad666 you are a lucky person then hahaha
@trukien1 yeah I didn't like having a secret forced on me, it didn't really fit with my character so I struggled for a while to get invested. Obviously it wouldn't work if I knew all of the secrets and picked one with the DM; but as a fairly new player at the time I didn't really have a good idea of why my character wanted to be there.
Thanks for the video. As someone who works in hobby retail and has to help people make their first D&D purchases, this helps me a lot.
I got my starter set for Christmas and remember having such a hard time learning the game. I had to start over so many times and the character sheets only complicated it for me. This set seems amazing.
hey Bob keep putting out quality content like you do and ill keep watching regardless if DnD puts out official videos
Thanks! :)
Looks like a good box set for beginners. I initially was not going to pick it up as the only reason I would have is because I thought the 80's characters were in it. But, you've changed my mind. I can see using this. Heck, my main one shot character, Larry the Lounge Wizard started in Phandelver as a sheet from the starter set and now he's a level 8 conjuration machine. Due to some minor incidents involving raising some corpses, Larry is no longer 'good'. But he still means well, dammit!
Start a live play already, I'm invested in this guy!
@@benvoliothefirst As much as Larry would enjoy the spotlight, I am not exactly what you would call an extrovert.
Hahah long live Larry!
The most hilarious thing about this video (for me, anyway) is that the moment you scanned the QR code, it cut to an ad.
Lol ya know, YT automatically placed that ad, and usually I move them around to places that I think make more sense, but I also though it was funny
Sometimes less is more. It's not always about the quantity of dice, or the length of the adventure, or whether you get a DM screen. It's about introducing people to a game with textbooks of rules in an approachable way.
Exactly!!
This was awesome!! As always you kill these videos!!! Keep it up!!!
Thanks very much!
I love your videos, man. Keep crushing it!
Hey, I just wanted to say I came across your channel about a month ago and a lot of your videos have really helped me out. I was a 3E - 3.5 player and dm but I haven't been able to play since 2011 due to life and all that entails lol, well my 11 year old is starting to get a interest in d&d and your videos, especially the what not to buy one, have really been helpful. Just passing along thanks for the info, God bless you and yours sincerely sir, keep up the awesomeness dude
Thank you for the video Bob!
My pleasure!
excellent review BOB
Thank you! I'll be purchasing this thanks to your video! 🎉
Lost Mines of Phandelver is heavy on the massacres, right from the jump. This sounds like an improvement
I started playing D&D in 1980, freshman year of high school. Played for about five or six years. In grad school I got recruited by a youth group at a local library to DM. After grad school life got in the way. Now almost thirty years later, a friend’s son is interested so I’m going to DM something for father and son. I Amazoned the Stormwreck starter set and came here to see what I’m getting into. It is pleasing to know that the game still is played by people like Bob. Great video. Thank you.
Thanks for your review! Just ordered the set. Played DnD a bit when I was a teenager. 30 years later, I want to try playing with my daughters!
Just found this video and am ordering this set for my first campaign thanks Bob you got a sub from me
That's cool they made it easier to understand. When my group started years ago with the old one, it was a bit confusing and took us awhile 😅
Thanks for the review, Bob! Very well done.
My pleasure!
This is why I love you and your videos dude.
Thank you! Can I ask what the reason is? haha
@@BobWorldBuilder Because you go straight to the point and express facts, not just opinions or biases*. You see how the game it could benefit or hinder a new/old player alike. Different points of views. You actually inform people and make it fun.
*Disclaimer: you can share your opinions/biases, because is your right and you make very good points. But is not all you talk about, you know what I mean?
Looking at the investigation being a +0 and directly above it the intimidation being a +3 without proficiency for the rogue I think they probably just misprinted it.
Good catch!
Looking at the character sheet, the rogue actually has a charisma of 16, so that explains the +3 intimidation. It's weird though, if there's a typo here, are there typos anywhere else?
Looks like these starter sets are pretty handy.
I just started by having a friend who had some experience DM, but we had to drop that after one session, so years later, I started playing with others, most of whom were new and everyone was inexperienced, so we just used DnD Beyond and I started reading the Basic Rules, which was incredibly helpful.
Nice breakdown
I think I’ll have to get this set just to check it out
Great summary! Very helpful :)
Took a break from editing and this came up. What was I editing? MY review. You beat me to it again! Seriously, though. Good stuff.
Haha reviews are always a race, and Ted from Nerd Immersion will always be the winner
Great video bob
Thank you!
Thank you! Great video, and I think viwers will still want your take on things, even if there's an official video tutorial. I own the first two sets, and supposedly was going to pick one to try DMing, but I like the look of what you just reviewed. Currently playing a Dragon Age D&D adventure with elements from the World of Thedas rules. My current character is a dwarf merchant warrior champion. My favorite 5e class to play so far was my first ever, a sorcerer.
I live in Brazil, I just bought this kit. It's on the way. I imagine that in three days I will receive the order. I'm really looking forward to knowing more details about the adventure and being able to use it as the start of a long campaign in an ocean world dotted with archipelagos lost in a vast ocean of monsters.
Great video. Really detailed, succinct analysis.
I am excited to give this a shot. My 1st time DMing was with the Essentials Kit and it was a failure. My brand new players thought everything was great and my experienced players were bored and oppositional to a lack of plot hooks and cohesiveness to the adventures. It definitely didn't provide enough info so I could be a successful DM.
I'm so excited for this box, but I have to wait for the October release
Great video thank you!
Great review. You're the man Bob!
Thanks very much!
Very nice video. I was really unsure about which one to take. But now it is more clear to me. Many thanks! =)
Thanks, Bob!
Thanks for the help. I've gotten very interested in D&D recently (Played a solo game on google drawings, but not withother people) and have been trying to get my family interested. This is very helpful, and I know what I'm getting for Christmas!
I’m thinking of DMing my first time for new players, and I’m really looking forward to starting with this.
It's available in October 2022 bloody hell no wonder I couldn't find it thanks mate 😊
Finally, the vids that i need
well done Bob - please do a full walk through of the adventure
Thanks! Whether I do a full walkthrough will depend on how much I enjoy running it or if I notice major things that DMs should look out for
I really liked the adventure in the essentials kit, just having close to 20, short, ready to go modular adventures is great as a DM. Easy to just drop into any campaign when you need a little more content.
Awesome!
Thank you. I played back in the 90s and am just getting into 5e, and my gf wants to learn so I'm looking for a good way to introduce her to it 😊
you sir have started my DnD journey after baldur's gate 3! Thank you!
So these are great. My girlfriend is showing interest in DnD and I’m not super familiar with it, but my Target has this on sale plus a bogo half off deal where I can get this plus the essentials kit for like $25.
Thanks for putting out these videos for people like us who have no idea what we’re doing.
I'm happy to get a variety of options (as well as more boxed sets), but I'm not convinced that the videos, which seem to be the main benefit of this box over the others, is really all that impressive considering the shear breadth of content out there already, most of it really helpful. The vast majority of the people who would buy into this already know where to look on CZcams too. I'm more interested in learning about the adventure itself because so far the previous two are way more appealing. The Essentials Kit for the amount of content for price and the original Starter Kit for the iconic Adventure.
Valid points! I mayyy be doing a follow up on the adventure itself, but I want to run it first
Excellent presentation, super cool
Great stuff Bob. This looks interesting. I might pick this up in the future foe my son to run as a first time DM.
Thanks! Yeah if you're patient, the price will probably drop once it's released everywhere in October
Me and my friends been playing Dungeon World for years, though we've added a bunch of homebrew rules so it's hard to tell it's DW anymore. For our next campaign we wanted to do a hybrid of 5e and Homebrew and this seems like a solid way to learn the 5e side of things.
Good idea!
Thanks you for the review of best I’ve seen
I don't have anything constructive to add about this video I just wanted to say this is the third post of yours I've seen and I love your show. I wish I would have found this channel sooner! I love that you're analytical but still focus on positives. Keep em coming!
Love your content
Great review, Bob! I was going to skip the new box, but I think you may have talked me into it👍🏼
Haha, yeah if you have new players to run for, it seems worth it
great run down! I love the way they changed those character sheets. even if there is a small mistake lol.
Thanks! Yeah I think it was a worthwhile change
Watching this post one D&D announcement
"Maybe inspiration is going away"
🤣
The only review that you'll ever need.
Kinda jealous of the brand new DM's getting the tools they need and deserve in this starter set! Wish they got this right sooner!
Better late than never!
Im trying to try d&d and thanks for this video
Had a horrible 1st experience back in the day, but now my children want to play. So we are gonna try out a beginner kit.
Me never having played table top before but enjoy watching it. This is going to be the one hobby I force my kids into (oldest is 5yrs) we'll learn together. 😅
Interesting to see the differences between this and the OG starter set. The way the process of play is laid out is a big improvement.
I'm going to dig into the OG set and compare it to the PF2 starter set soon because I think it's interesting how those extra $ in the cost of the PF2 set get put to use from a player perspective.
Several people have suggested here that I check out the PF2 box set, which I personally don't have much interest in, but I'd be happy to send them your way! :) Also I started out with the yellow background thumbnail, but it was at an 8/10 for a while, switched it to the one with no face and all three boxes for 7/10, but this one took it to 4/10. I really can't understand thumbnails lol
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Im just buy this and gladly can see he comparison. Im very new on dnd and I hope this easy to learn, thanks for the video
My son (14) wanted to become a DM. He used this starter set as a great way to set him up for success. And it means I have a game where I am a player instead of DM. He's since expanded after we played through this to create his own world and adventures. Pretty great get-go set for a beginner.
Great video as always. Just a note about the editing, the glitch transitions you used (0:43, 8:07 and 8:37) were a bit confusing on the eyes, both because there isn't really a tech theme to this channel nor a kind of sound effect to give an audio cue for the transition to make sense. Still, very informative and enlightening video on the new starter set with well-reasoned opinions.
I haven't been able to be an actual player in years (as I'm always the DM) but I get the feeling that I would absolutely LOVE to be player at your table!
I appreciate that! :) And hey, tell one of your players to DM for once!!
@@BobWorldBuilder We talk about it all the time just never happens. Maybe someday...
I plan to get this. A Quick, Simple adventure that somehow, is gonna last maybe 1-2 sessions XD!!!
Thanks for the review Bob.
Glad you like it!
It would be great if you make a guide for running the adventures in this manual. Loved your other videos on running The Dragon of Icespire Peak.
I might! I'm going to decide after I run it once
As a player who wants to learn how to dm, a deeper dive into the adventures would be great
I agree 100%... Kinda wish they had fun customized dice and the cartoon character made an an appearance maybe as helpful hint people or though a fun mini-story at the beginning of each chapter in the adventure as a summery of it.
I wonder if Inspiration was taken off the sheet since you either have it or you don't. It's not really a number or stat you need to track. You may as well just have a token and spend it when you use your Inspiration.
I am currently working on redoing the three boxed sets to happen in the same campaign, with LMoP being 1-5 mostly unchanged, DoISP being 5-8, and DoSWI being 8-10. Hopefully will go well for my game I’m planning to run
I was able to pick this one up last year on Black Friday for $10 at target.
i have the essenttials kit, the starter last starter set, all the core books and still never played it. Now i also preordered this. They look nice on shelf i suppose! Hopefully this time we will play
I agree with you, Bob. I also like that the new starter set is aimed towards absolute brand new people because then they don't feel obligated to go out and be the new CritRole/Stranger Things with their friend group. Young people/teens can ask for this set for holidays or birthdays and they won't feel like what they got was an abundance of jargon and get disappointed when their friends are like "this is too confusing lets do something else".
Thanks for reviewing too!!
I just bought from Amazon in Australia all the other retailers had the 2nd of October listed as availability date on preorder!
Well I can't talk for all the people, but I'm definitely watching your reviews and absolutely not the DnD official channel ones
I personally find the videos on the Dungeons and dragons official channel to be just not descriptive of the things you want to know about at all. Instead they talk for minutes and minutes about just some obscure lore and real world references and inspiration... probably not the juice you clicked on the video for.
On the other hand, your videos, Bob, are just beautifully edited, even in their simple form. Plus you alway manage to cover both good and bad sides of things which i believe to be yet another demonstration of love and care for this channel, for your fans as well for new people who are just approaching dnd.
Great video as always
Thank you very much! Yeah I imagine it makes a lot of sense for people to still seek out videos from outside sources who won't have the bias of an official D&D video haha