Sony 20mm f/1.8 G or Sony 24mm f/1.4 GM? Which one is better for wedding photography
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2022
- In this video I breakdown practical differences between Sony 24GM and 20G from a perspective of a wedding photographer. Sony 20G feels like a smaller brother of 24GM and it's also 500$ cheaper - but how good is it? Watch the video to see the photo samples!
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Thanks for your sharing! I already have 24mm G and now plan to purchase 20mm G. Because of the close-up of 20mm G. It inspires me a lot!
I've been shooting 35+85 for the last 9 years, and in my experience the 20mm it's the perfect compliment to that setup. 24mm is just too similar to 35mm. For the dance floor, the 20mm is glued to my camera. I also use it a lot in different part of the day, even for portraits. The key is to put your subject as close to the center as possible. If you try to use it as a 35, the perspective distortion will kill you. If 35 is the safe and boring lens, the 20 is my special fun lens.
Yeah I'm thinking that also...and I agree that 24 is already really tough and a bit too close, unless you want to do 24/35/50/85...but I also skip the 50. ... 35 I can do almost any typical shot. This was a good video as I mostly shoot people plus video work, and not landscapes/astro. Most 20mm reviews are the latter... think I'll get the 20 to do the wide end of my 35/85 I already have... have a 24-70 already so having that bit extra will be useful sometimes.
Thanks for sharing, I always got problem using 20mm for people.
Yes youre right, i also have 35mm & 85mm 1.8 lens and planning to add 20mm to make the 3 lens combo for wedding/portraits..
@@stanleyyow4496 As much as possible put the subject close to the center to avoid distortion from the corners..
@@TheJoejoez sell your 24-70 and get the 20mm..even better.
Both are outstanding lenses. Depends on lens combo, 20-35-85, or 24-50-135. On high MP images, crops are so easy.
20 1.8, 50 1.4, and gm standard zoom for me. Those 3 lenses and then perhaps a macro + telephoto one day. The only thing I want to do though is change 20 for 24mm because I want less bending
Bought the Sony 20mm 1.8 and have been extremely happy with it. Great video. Also, I need a hoodie like yours.......DOPE!
I’m leaning towards the 20mm (20,35,85). I do more video than stills and active stabilization pushes the 20 towards 24mm once the active stab crops in. So, it’s the 20mm for me. I have the f1.4 in the 35mm since that’s my sweet spot! :-)
I tried a lot of diffrent gear for my wedding photography and developed to an only primes shooter. Last year I bought a 24GM but sold it after one year of usage. Maybe you think I am crazy, but I am so much in love with 28mm! For me it is just the right allrounder, 35mm feels for me (especially inside) often to tight and a 24 definitly to wide for general stuff and people. Usually I like to be close to the business and 28mm is for me the widest prime I like to use for people . I hope so much, Sony will develope a 28 f1.4 GM, but until I am using FE 28, 55, 85 and for the realy wide shots a Voigtländer 15 f4,5 III (still have a 35 f1.4 Voigtländer Classic for funky stuff with crazy flares, but just as add-on lens)
I got the 20mm. The little extra width helps make up for the active stabilization crop i get on my S3.
One thing that you did not mention when considering focal length, is that new Sony cameras will crop in, in some modes to compensate. This is something I have thought about when buying E-mount lenses, because I just purchased a Sony A74.
If you turn on active stabilization the A74 will crop in when shooting video.
If you turn on lens compensation, the A74 will crop in a little.
If you turn on focus breathing compensation when shooting video, the A74 will crop in a little.
If you use Catalyst Browse software to stabilize a video the software will crop in.
After listing these modes when the A74 crops in for compensation, it looks like the compensation crops affect video more that photography.
16-35-2.8GM/24-1.4GM/50-1.2GM/135-1.8GM. I choose this setup after have been testing-using then selling a lot of glas (85GM/20G/24-70GM/70-200GM etc...)
You could crop into 20 mm to obtain 24 mm like perspectives. Or, if you had A7r IV, you could get 30 mm 26 mp pictures using the aps-c mode. So if you just need to keep one lens, keep 20 mil. However, in the wedding situation, I think a fast zoom lens will be more useful.
Thanks for your video! Yes im using the 20mm its good for partys at nigth, groups, concerts, djs etc.
Perfect! Great choice
I have switched from Pentax k1 who i had a 15-30mm and I have somes epic shoot with that, but I have to made some money choice to choose my new setup, and after looking lot of video, and your I have choose the 24gm 1.4 at wide lens instead of my 15-30, I know I will not able to make all the pictures, I'm hoping to not be frustrated when I will come back of my first wedding on the Sony system.
Great! Thanks man. I've waited for this comparison Magic!
Hope you like it!
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Of course, as always! Though I am waiting for "How I manage the dance floor part" video!😇
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Magic, your dance floor shots are, as the kids say, lit!
What do you use to get so much light for these wedding photos in your showcase of the 20mm photos?
Nice comparation
I planning to add 24mm
Excellent timing I was about to start research!
Hope that was helpful!
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer definitely, thanks!
Do you also use a 24-70 on weddings sometimes or just prime lenses?
I have both and I've used both at weddings. The 24mm just has little extra bit of magic with background seperation and telling a story without as many distractions. I'm keeping both but my current go-to set up is the 85mm F1.4 and the 24mm F1.4. I think it's a killer combo.
Which 85? Sigma or Sony?
@@photosblossomsau1624 Both are Sony GM's.
@@photosblossomsau1624 sigma is very nice as well, but with my personal experience, if u r going for a long and stable run then go for the GM instead, cheers
I'm thinking both as well, they're two different lenses - I just hope I have room in my bag...lol
i sold my 20mm Sigma because wasnt wide enough and was to close to my 35/1.4 and i bought Viltrox 16mm, now my trio 16+35+85 cooperate perfectly, i wish i had this sony 20mm, because atm is the best 20mm on the market.
Great review. I purchased the 20mm used for $700 to give it a go. I just didn't find a sweet spot to use it as often as I do the 24mm. And when it comes to the drag shutter dancing shots I prefer the 14mm GM. 14mm adds to the look and I crop in a little if needed. It's just a random focal length that didn't work for me. Might for others. I only took a $40 loss in Ebay fees.
Oooooh I’d love to see some of your dancfloor shots from 14GM!
I'm currently using the 85 1.8 at weddings and I'm about to buy a wide angle as an addition! it will probably be the 20th 1.8. as I can use it on my a6000 second body at weddings in 30mm crop and also for landscapes in my spare time. the best deal for me. and thank you for the comparison! I was waiting and hoping for that! keep it up!
Yup, 20mm works great for crop cameras!
20f18g lens focus breathing (from the corrected Sony camera body) may be because the minimum focal length is very short, so the corrected angle of view is almost 24mm. It is a top mtf section with a slight disappointing depth expression and a slight crop, but satisfactory video shooting is possible
Have any emount prime lenses for sale that you dont use? I have a sony a7riv but no lens to shoot...
Your photos are fricken amazing!
personal preference here, I think that the magical look from the bokeh on the 1.4 makes the difference. I would miss that having only a 1.8
Is the solution the Sigma 20mm f1.4?
:)
Can you expand on why the 20mm is better for the dance floor?
Is it because of your particular shooting style?
I wonder... if you use higher f-stop values on the dance floor anyway, why not use something like the 16-35 f4 PZ? It would be comparably sharp as the 20 and would give you additional versatility over the 24 for when you need it. At least, IN THEORY lol... I just picked up the 16-35; we'll see if I end up keeping it and selling my 20...
If (6 month later) You still have that same dilemma then it looks like you can consider the Sigma DG DN 14-24mm since f/2.8 and smaller is what you would use for the dancing scenarios - with the benefit of being 4 excellent lenses more (it is fantastic 'especially' at 20mm regarding distortion) but things ain't that simple lol. Suffice to see the new sigma 20mm f/1.4 to throw us in doubts, lol
I want an updated 28mm lens. A 28mm f/1.8 G lens would be amazing to pair with my 50m GM f/1.4.
Damn, that shot at 9:39 is breathtaking!
So what did you pick????
Nice video! What about the 14mm GM?
Hello Magic
Awesome video, can yo do a video on how you achieved the pictures at the dance floor , I also love the picture of the band with the light start behind them .
I would love to see how you do it
Thank you ! And keep going
Yup, I’m making a full online course about mastering one flash dance floor stuff, so coming soon!
@@MagicWeddingPhotographerLooking foward to that!
Great review.
Can I take indoor pictures and videos of family and parties with this lens
Oh easily, both will work great with FF camera
Great video as always!! So which one did you keep the 18 or 24? :D
24!! :)
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Amazing! Thanks so much for letting know :)
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0:17 what is that mounted to the bottom of Magic’s camera? It looks like something that makes it easier to hold the camera.
It’s L-bracket. From aliexpress, nothing fancy, but better grip for older Sony cameras (A7RIII here)
Yea, you do need to keep both, why not? Lol! The 20mm is cute! 😀
At 10:05, you said that "I don't have to keep both of them". Now it is already 8 months since you post this video. Finally which lense is still with you or both? Thanks Magic.
still rocking only 24mm, and still tempted by that 20mm :P
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer the new sigma 20mm f/1.4 is my favorite. Hopefully soon Sony will make a second version of their 24mm and possibly make it 1.2! That would be insane!
I love my GM 24mm, it's my first GM and I got it right away when it came out with my first FF cameras the A7-III. Now I have quite the GM collection.. lol
Collecting GMs can be addictive 😂
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer To be honest all the best GM lenses started with the GM 24mm but now I'm gonna try to sell my GM 135mm to get the rumored GM 85mm f1,2.. that lens will be FIRE
My first GM was the 24, what an awesome lens! Next is the 35 and the 135 GM.
so, you say that lens 20/1.8 it is wide enough for wedding photography ( some creative photo sessions )? do you think it is a better option than tamron 17-28 ( only 17 mm interest me) or samyang 18/2.8?
I do think it's a personal choice. Obviously when using ultra wide like 14 or 16mm you can get really creative with it. For me it's just to not worth to have such a wide lens for just few shots, so I prefer something more all around like 20 or 24mm, that can be used in multiple situations. If you're not sure which focal length you'll like more it might be worth getting a zoom like tamron to see which focal lengths you'll use most.
I have the 20mm and I LOVE it. I honestly didn't think I would like it as much as I do. Some of my best shots in my portfolio are from that lens. But there is a learning curve what what you can and can't get away with it for. The biggest advice, get really close to your subject.
On an A7IV I measured my 20G 1.8 with breathing compensation and active stabilization to be tighter than the 24GM without either.
The 20G with breathing compensation, is just about the same as the 24GM without either.
Interesting, eh? My 20, if used for video the way I like it with both breathing compensation and active stabilization is is a tighter field of view than the 24GM, probably like a 26mm.
so which one you prefer bro? i have a7 iv too, but still confused to decide which lense should i buy
@@RiantoEffendi I still don't have a preference. They are both excellent. The depth of field of the 24 is hard to match to anything the 20 can give, but the 20 allows more versatility in some of the things I do.
Just get the one you want most, and work with it for a while. If you feel a need for the other, that is how you'll know. I always buy used, and occasionally sell lenses I don't love, even if I take a $100 hit.
I use both nearly every day and am not able to decide. If I could only have one, it would be the 24. But I would miss the 20.
I have the 35gm and use 17-28 Tamron for anything wider. I guess theres not too much difference in depth of field at 20mm between f1. 8 and f2.8.
I tried the 24 for a while but its so much harder to use than the 35 due to edge distortion.
Yup. anything wide angle is just way harder and challenging to shoot, especially for portraits. For the depth of field you can actually check the dof simulator, which is a great tool: dofsimulator.net/en/
what the point to take f 1.8 photo sample with f1.4 ? Make GM to 1.8 and then take a shot.
If the wedding is a happy one, no matter which lens you use. Your job is to capture those moments.
Magic, you'd need to compare them at f/1.8 to make a fair assessment of which lens is sharper....jus sayin'.
I'm not sure why the 20mm isn't considered a GM within itself, buy maybe my eyes aren't as good as others. I love my 20 for videos. When i use active stabilization it acts similar to a 24 mm for my uses. Great vid.
As many other reviewers have pointed out, the 20mm is for all intents-and-purposes a G Master lens. It has the latest autofocusing motor, is actually sharper and has greater contrast than the 24GM, and comes with the standard list of features expected from a GM lens. For whatever reason Sony decided to give it a G label. Maybe they plan on introducing a GM version at some point?
Haha......why not both?😜 always good to have option......right? BTW, Love your video 👍
Haha you know I’m just fooling myself that I can’t have both 😂
I’m keeping my 24mm…it just has that something,like my zeiss 55mm….👍🏻
It does! :)
in aps-c mode?
That is a full frame lens, if you put on APSC body you have to multiply by 1.5
It's a shame Sony do not make more G lenses. I wonder if in time the 35 and 85 f1.8 lens will be replaced as G lenses with aperture rings and the look and feel of the 20mm G lens. I use three zooms and two primes at weddings 35 and 85 f1.8. Im thinking of changing the 35 f1.8 for the GM version. Hopefully Sony will bring out a new 24-70GM soon which is stopping me getting the 35GM just in case Sony's new zoom is an F2 which would be amazing. I think they could make it lighter than Canons.
Yeah, I do wonder if we have any new similar G lenses coming. Last year we had a smaller G series with 25, 40 and 50 aimed mostly for A7C shooters, but that’s something else. Time will tell!
I could see them doing exactly that. FE -> G -> GM if they're going for different tiers.
We need 22mm lens lol
We need every single focal length from 14 to 400 with 1mm steps. And in GM version 😂
20 for the winner definitely
The 24/1.4 has great rendering, half body portraits have great sharpness and smooth bokeh. The 20/1.8 is nothing special, it's sharp, but that's it. It has no bokeh to talk about, it's generally too wide for portraits and not wide enough for multiple people action shots.
its the 20 mm.....use the cash you saved and go on a trip or buy some nd fliters lol
Maybe I'm barely human....but I've never understood dancing and how it's supposed to be fun. Do other people think it's fun or are they just mimicking what everyone else is doing to try to fit in? I just don't understand the point of dancing. It's similar to my thoughts on going to a theater with other people. You are watching a movie why is it a better experience with others. Why would you bring a date to a movie? I go to movie theaters alone. The only logically thing I can think of is the men are out dancing because they want to impress or meet other women....and apparently the women like dancing more. Sometimes I wish I could be more human and not think about these things and just be one of the guys. I am not a follower though.
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hey, good thought. i dont club, but when theres a gathering party with my friends dancing is actually fun… maybe its not for the introverts. i mean have u ever not dance secretly while showering? dancing w friends is 10x better than that haha.
If i like the music what i hear, usualy i dance alone in a club, but i interact other peapole in the floor.
The Basic is i dance with the music, but somethimes dance with others, and maybie sometimes impress girls.
It's like a connection like drawing to the paper, and you.
The music and your mind's imagination is the idea, the flow, your body is a pencil, and the floor the paper.
Everybody drawing alone.
Don't overthink, we do sometimes thing because, we want feel good, or just we want change our mood.
I think it’s a commonality of interest. It’s a shared experience and some people find that to be more exciting than personal experience.
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