Bambu Lab X1 Carbon: 5 Things You Don't Know
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- In this video, I share the second half of my review of the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon Combo and my final thoughts on this top-of-the-line product. Special thanks to Wham Bam for sponsoring this week's video. Be sure to check them out and their Flexible Build System at whambamsystems.com/.
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In last week's video, I shared my initial impressions of the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon Combo and the surprises I encountered. In this week's video, I will be concluding my review of this best in-class product and sharing why I agree with other creators that it is light years ahead of the competition.
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Can this printer do PEEK filament?
The problem with the walled garden (also an Apple user, so probably a little hypocritical on this one) is that they have utilised decades of open source software and hardware development to do the heavy lifting of building their printer, and scattered some new engineering niceties on top. If they wall it off here, this is where that development ends. If you kill the open source 3D printer movement off by redirecting funds to proprietary devices like this then you had better hope that Bambu continues to develop features that you like, because they will be the only source of future innovation.
I think that this is distinct from Apple / Linux / BSD in that the server space continues to be very open source in computing, but the equivalent industrial applications of 3D printing were already tending towards proprietary solutions.
Excellent reviews. We'll balanced and very informative. One request: When you do a pop-up on the video, keep it on screen for a few seconds so we have time to read/understand it. Thanks.
Sounds like a skill issue most of these cant get your machine running in two days? I came from an m3d mini then an ender ill take 10 min to wait for that cash money perfect first layer every time
The 7 minutes for start up sequence is so worth it. Got perfect prints every time
Agreed. I think that complaining about it for over a minute in the video was overkill...the quality of prints and the overall reduced speed is TOTALLY worth it. I can print PET-G about 60% faster than on my Prusa Mk3 and Prusa Mini.
Wouldn't it be okay when the start up sequence would only be necessary one time a day or so. Because especially if you have already been printing, it would not be necessary.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 Well. If same material, just uncheck it during start? I really just like fire and forget. Always works
So true!!!!!!!
7 minutes seems crazy
One often overlooked feature of the AMS is the automatic capability of switching to a new spool when you finishes one. Having two spools of the same material in it will ensure that your print will complete without any manual intervention! No more trying to figure out if you have enough filament to do a print…. Genius!
Totally. I’d seen that covered a lot though so I didn’t mention!
It's especially useful if you're dumb like me, and manage to unwind a third of your spool when you tried to transfer a cartboard spool onto a plastic one..
Got my P1P (X1C on order) setup in 20 minutes, been printing pretty much non-stop for 3 days. I am spoiled, no bed leveling or constant tuning, upgrades on my Ender 3’s and 5 Plus. I care more about design and making stuff than tinkering even though I have done that. The P1P makes perfect first layers, extrusion is spot on, corners beautiful, the best ironing I have experienced and much more. I want another and another….
You and me both, mate!
@@davydatwood3158 I added AMS, fantastic! Then yesterday my X1C came, seems even faster, display is amazing, especially with AMS. I have to order another AMS today, it’s just too good. I have two “appliances” running full tilt-yet to have a failed print,..hope this lasts!
If you are printing abs on your 2.4 you should be heat soaking. That is wait half an hour after the bed heats before you start printing to get the best results. The voron team generally recommendeds this. It makes a huge difference in print quality. For smaller prints it doesn't matter as much but I really recomend setting up a heatsoak macro. The reason for this is if you start printing with the chamber at say 30C and it heats up to 50 to 60 during the print things are gonna be different because of thermal expansion and you may get some strange layer lines. If the printer cools down you dont need to run the exhaust fan. The VOCs will condense on the inside of the printer. I wouldnt run the exhaust fan unless you need the parts right away which I wouldn't recommended for abs anyway as it can warp if not cooled down slowly. I would rather keep the VOCs in the printer than try to filter most of them out. Just my thoughts. Thanks for another interesting video.
True, true... I should be doing that.
@@thenextlayer I didn't start until a couple months after i had mine running. I had a hundred projects that built up over a couple years that needed a big printer so I had no time to waste!
What if u add an external hear source ?
I like to print a lot of abs to oh yea fist i turn it on and preheat before i go to the slicer sometime before i start working in fusion.
I use a Wham Bam plate for my X1. It is SOOOO nice that I bought 2 so I was never without it in case one failed down the road. I pumped up the bed temp for PLA on it to 65. I started at 50, 55, 60 then finally 65 and I had mirror like flat finishes on the bottom at 65.
Yeah this is a game changer, honestly. Improves the printer so much.
@@thenextlayer I checked the price of those plates, and they are way more expensive than Bambu plates 😭
Can you provide a link to the plate you mentioned? I'm looking for a textured plate that works with the lidar, but the Wham Bam site is not making it easy to figure out which one that is. Thanks!
The Chamber fan is controlled by the start-up G-Code. I think it's triggered by the bed temp when it gets past 45c. I have seen some custom code on Reddit, that will trigger it sooner and at a lower speed. Cause ones it's triggered, its triggers at 100%. It is loud.
Please do not edit your Start or Machine G-Code if you do not know what you are doing. You can damage the printer if you mess it up.
The command is "M106 P3 SXXX" Where XXX = 0 through 255
Sample:
M106 P3 S0 ; turns off the chamber cooling fan
M106 P3 S255 ; turns on the chamber cooling fan to 100%
M106 P3 s127; will turn it on at around 50%
I have watched a lot of CZcams videos on the Bambu printer but this one is the most informative. It was interesting that the software picked up a change in the level profile when you added a brace to the desk.
My ideal printer would be delivered with true AI. I can only dream.
Wham Bam really is the go to 3rd party supplier. I have 2 hot boxes for my Enders and the flexible build plate on the Mars 3.
wow, thank you, so glad i found a way to add something unique after so many reviews out there
I just discovered your channel when searching out X1C videos. Thank you so much for informative videos but mostly thank you for your positive attitude even when giving constructive criticism. It’s refreshing.
wow, thank you, so glad i found a way to add something unique after so many reviews out there
I have had my prusa since 2016 and upgraded to the 2.5. The fact is the prusa just works. I love the fact you build the prusa yourself from a kit so when it needs fixing, its no problem. Would i like some of these other features of the X1, yes but I am one of those very opposed to a closed system vs prusa which is as open as you can get. Would I buy an X1 just to mess with, maybe soon. Thanks for a great video on the X1 . Larry
I just discovered your channel. The content is super smooth and concise. Very well put together, kudos to you. Definitely subscribing
I learned about the exhaust fan the same way you did. I didn't know about the real time resonance monitoring. That's insane. I've started to buy Bambu filament just for the added convenience of the RFID tags. That's something else I think could be out in the hands of 3rd party companies and allow Bambu to recognize other filament brands automatically
Yep, crazy how we all misread, or maybe they updated the site
i got mine yesterday, so far only tested pla and petg. with (generic) petg it shuts off the build and aux fan, but the exhaust fan is full on!
the prices they have are comparable to every other filament so its not bad at all.
@@Shinobubu agreed. Shipping takes a bit longer and their inventory seems to be out a lot though
Great video. Thanks for making this. As someone new to 3D printing, content like this really helps me learn and understand core topics like this.
My biggest concern with filaments other than PLA is the fumes and particles etc.. I don’t have a proper ventilation setup for my Bambu X1C and I don’t think I would feel comfortable using these other materials until I do.
7-8 minutes on a 20 minute print is feels like such a pain, but then I step back and realize that print would have taken me an hour anyways, and I quit sulking. 7min out of an 8hr print is nothing to blink at. A decade of 3d printing, and my X1C is the best experience I've ever had.
I have a new Raise3D Pro 3 Plus and it takes 6-8 minutes to get going. Between prints you can reheat the bed and HE to retain the heat & keep going quicker.
Nice
This is the first review video of the Bambu X1 that I think covers these really important areas which I are often forgotten / overlooked and I 100% agree with your view and suggestion on their walled garden approach.
wow, thank you, so glad i found a way to add something unique after so many reviews out there
I have a Prusa. Love it and open source. I bought a P1P too. It’s fast and great value. It’s been really good too. I’m using it to print parts for my 3rd printer - the open source Rook 180
Super informative, thank you. I just started learning about this printer
I'm totally fine with the walled garden approach. I'm not big on modding things and their parts are fairly priced.
Agreed. But I get how much of the 3dp geek crowd have alot of time tinker and tinker and tinker.
I just want a solid ecosystem that works, is fast and has output that is great... price is secondary.
@@graphguy Yep! Like for me, I just want to be able to print my inventory. If it prints my products reliably, easy to repair if needed, and has great quality. I can't really ask for more.
But if you like to tinker and upgrade and stuff like that. Do what makes brings you joy! In the end, everyone should be happy and make cool thinks :)
Regarding fans and VOCs. This is something I am paranoid about because my printer is in the middle of the house, I like printing with smelly stuff, and my wife has the nose of a bloodhound.
The provided "filter" really is just a nod, IMO, so they can put it on the spec sheet.
I have been reading up on the Bento Box internal air scrubber, which you are dismissive of, and I think (hope) that is a step in the right direction - keep the printer sealed and keep the internal air cleansed while printing ABS and the like.
The Bento Box has both carbon and HEPA filtering. My research indicates HEPA is useless for VOCs. So I am designing my own carbon only scrubber, taking the best ideas from the Bento Box. I will absolutely be maximising the amount of carbon.
The other vulnerability in the X1C is that the poop chute is open to the outside. So the poop will come with smells 🙂 I am designing a poop catcher that will give a 99% air seal, so those poop smells won't drift out when the exhaust fan is not running.
Finally there's the door hinge gap. That's easily fixed with a bit of tape.
So IMO what Bambu Labs should be doing is integrating a scrubber, and modifying the software for a post-print scrub cycle and advising the user to keep the (properly sealed) door shut, and only then running the exhaust fan to shift the inside air out through the filter.
Regarding the walled garden: That's what you get with companies like Stratasys, AFAIK. it's many years since I looked at them, but when I did their FDM printers came with filament cartridges with a disposable printhead. The print surface was also to be replaced on a very short cycle. And of course the chamber was sealed and heated, and subject to a patent that stalled general development of FDM printing for 15 years. More a fortress than a walled garden!
Great Video! Thank you for highlighting the exhaust fan as I had no clue and was kicking myself for not buying the XC1 instead of the P1P. The only worry I have is if Bambulab will be around for the next 5 years. How would I get replacement nozzles and other parts? I have to say one amazing thing that Bambulab does, is that they have all accessories available to Canadians without gouging us too much, $35 for PLA is on the high side for pricing, and I think that $30 is the right spot IMO. I do find other accessories to be decently priced. Great job Bambulab
You have made several great points that I find and hopefully bamboo as well ....hard to ignore!..very informative and insightful review!
Thank you so much. Hope you're subbed
Thank you for this - I've been running the X1C for several weeks now, and had completely missed that the carbon filter / chamber fan was a manual on/off step - VERY useful information! Hope they add this to the software as you suggest.
Glad I was able to share something new with even an existing owner
Would love to see a lemons to apples comparison between the V2.4 and the X1 Carbon. Currently on the fence between building a 350^3 Doom 2.4 or buying an X1 carbon... then using it to eventually build a 2.4.
247 printing did a good video with a comparison between the 2.4, x1c, and v400
I love my X1C so much that I purchased a P1P just for PLA/PETG prints. And I have been pretty pleased with your coverage of the offerings from Bambu Lab. As a fellow Apple user, I don't mind the walled garden here so much as the consumables are very reasonably priced, but it might be pretty amazing to see how much further things can be pushed with a bit of openness. But I can understand the immense amount of pressure Bambu is currently under trying to get printers to customers and dealing with the occasional bad apple or issues with shipping that crop up. I, honestly, love the fact that I can just hit print and largely continue with my day worry free regardless of the material I'm printing with. No, not everything is perfect, but it just works and I love that more than getting a perfect print every time as most every print I have gotten has come out perfect enough.
I agree fully
Glad I went with Voron trident for my first, but I almost got the Bambu. Potentially will get it for my second printer, or whatever newest iteration there is of it. A tuned Voron I'd take any day, it just takes soo much time to tune it up
Live the video, thank you!! I'm looking at making my first purchase the X1 Carbon, but the VOC's etc. that are emitted make me weary. My solution was just to build an enclosure to ventilate it...but you're saying that it DOES come with a carbon filter? With you printing in your home m, you feel comfortable in leveraging what's built in, and not having to solution for that aspect? Thanks in advance!
This channel is growing fast! Great content and relevant info on what is going on in the 3D community. I ordered a WhamBam one day before seeing this video but I would like to see one about the WhamBam. If it's good enough I will put one on my Voron V2.
Thanks so much! Yeah I think I need one for my v2 as well, though I do prefer textured plates, but wow... the whambam is like glass, it makes the surface soooo nice
Glad I found your channel! Looking to get my X1-Carbon ...I was ready to put my order until I saw this video, where you mention the Wham Bam plate. Should I get this plate and not buy any other extra Bambu OEM plate like I was going? Just keep the included Bambu plate on the kit and get the Wham Bam? I'm planning to print a lot of TPU ...have you used with TPU yet? Do you need to mess with glue? ...any feed back would be appreciate.
Thanks and keep the great content! Wishing you the best?
The Aux Fan is (without changing it during the print) in the G Code, which is created based on the Material, but you can edit it in the settings
Usually based on bed temp there are 2 values and an if then else
M106 looks like to Address the fan, and S255 is 100% Speed
I changed mine in the PLA to around 70% because it was too loud if having a parrallel online business meeting.
Btw, if you do not have change material prints, you also can use the software to manually change it also during the print.
But if it changes with the AWS.. it goes back at 100% for PLA any change
I know you think it takes a long time to start up, but with other printers I came from, I spent hours fixing and tweaking it to just work. If we don't all have 7 mins to give for perfection then you probably want to get a printer that requires a lot of maintenance but starts fast. For me I can wait. I don't actual wait though, I do other things because I don't have to worry if its going to print. It just works!
True true
If I'm printing multiple things in succession with the same filament, I always only run the bed levelling and flow calibration the first time. Then the startup time is much faster than 7 to 10 minutes for the next prints.
As someone who has monitored 3d printing for several years, but not bought one because of the learning curve and incantations required, I do like the X1. The walled garden element is worrying, but the ability to print and it works, almost offsets that. I would not hesitate to buy into the 3d world of Bambu Labs if there wasnt a wall around it. I probably wouldnt use the freedom a non walled garden gives, but it would be nice to know it was there.
Thanks for a great pair of videos! Very informative. I've got a Bambu X1-Carbon in my June budget. Yee-Haw !!!
NIIICE enjoy
I don't think you'd want to force the chamber fan to be on when printing higher temp materials. That would cool down the chamber and probably cause more warping. Whatever air leaves the chamber is replaced with room temp air from outside.
It would be a better design to recirculate the air inside the chamber through a filter, since that shouldn't change the temperature. That's why I ended up installing the Bentobox on mine. I certainly agree it is a bit of a hack, but I don't see this being fixed with software.
yeah my suggestion is a wait period AFTER printing them to filter out before you open
@@thenextlayer Yeah, I should have waited until the video was over before commenting. I thought you had moved on to the next topic but was impatient. That would definitely help, though of course you'd get fumes leaking out in the meantime. Really you could use both when you think about it, and it isn't like the carbon is expensive. The only gotcha with recirculation is that you need to use acid-free carbon or you'll destroy the machine. I could see people getting THAT wrong and creating a reputation issue.
I really really hope they make their own proprietary glass bed. Maybe I'm weird, but I've always had the best turnout on prints when using glass (excluding ABS)
Question; I am new to the 3D print world. As for the walled garden, can you use filament from other manufactures and use the settings in the slicer to enable their use?
Thank you! Especially introducing "walled garden" into the 3d print world vocabulary. I know I am getting ahead of where we are now, but I think it is critical that others need to know in the future this device should fall under the "right to repair" argument. I don't think Bambu Labs is going to disappear or go bankrupt like a US company; it is Chinese owned so it may fold or transition into another Chinese company. Also, the difference between Apple and Bambu Labs is that their programming environment is that Apple built their own programming language, Swift, while the other is using Open Source for slicing (Slic3r / PrusaSlicer), printer commands (GCODE), and kinematics (Klipper).
And finally, with any walled garden, network interfacing must be cloud based or you've now hobbled your printer with LAN only. And from what I understanding now, the P1P has a different chipset that is less capable than the X1 so you must use the cloud based tools or it won't work. So for anyone with a secure home/office network, setting up the X1 or P1P is going to set off a lot of alarm bells.
If any device relies on a internet connection and their cloud service, I refuse to buy it. Too many companies are gone or decided to turn off their cloud service or drop support for older devices. I hate walled gardens and never owed a single apple product mostly for that reason. I hope Bambu Lab isn't like that.
You can actually turn off the buildplate identification nowdays. I had to because my unit didn't recognise the cold plate it came with stock. It seems to be a common issue, hope they fix it soon
Edit:
.... as always with bambu printers, it was user error... I had the wrong plate set in my slicer.
As soon as I corrected the plate selection, the printer worked flawlessly...
(I swear this thing is smarter than me.. I wouldn't be surprised if it started detecting defects and failiures in humanity in a few years)
Amazing review with stuff most reviewers just skip, talking about the unique pros and cons flat out! Thank you Jonathan! We ordered the X1 carbon based on your reviews and feedback!
We’ll also check out wambam after our X1 will arrive.
As I mentioned on the previous X1 video you did, a head to head comparison of the X1 vs “your” 2.4 😁
Thank you! Appreciate the tip, and your kind words. I'll do the comparison soon, most likely. Where in Israel are you based, btw?
@@thenextlayer Tel Aviv 😁
We got it, I can’t believe we started unboxing and 12 minutes later already started printing 🤯
Pre-ordered mine yesterday. Have to wait till probably the end of March to get it. Good times
Really useful video, thank you. Sounds like the x1c is the go to printer if you just want to print and not have to spent time and money tweaking and buying addons to make it work
Really good review on both part 1 and 2. Your views are really welcome as you highlight the general trend on where 3d printing is going. I dont mind the closed system aslong as they keep up with issues and updates and give a you a hassle free experience. The only reason we are used to modding our machines is because the printer companies arent keeping up or havet ironed out all the issues before shipping there product. Cant wait to see how the 3d market competes against bambu. Lets hope bambu makes a bigger version. Would be good to see how the bambu handles different materials and how does it compare with speed and quality.
more videos on the X1 please :) this printer is a beast. Keep up the great work!
You got it
Amazing video quality. I see greatness in the future for you good sir!
Thank you so much. Hope you're subbed
Bambu Lab has certainly raised the bar. I am saving my money and going to watch from the sidelines to see how the Bambu Labs printer holds up after many hours of use and how the other 3D printer companies answer. My printers are tuned and work to my satisfaction (for now :)).
I have a MK3S+,Prusa Mini,CR-30,V400 and a SV06. I LOVE my X1 Carbon!!!!
The "filter" is secondary because it is a chamber temp regulator for when you print PLA. Prevents heat creep
I'd like to know more about the Plug ins that you spoke of missing with the X1C. You mentioned a camera plug in for time lapse but did not mention that the X1C has a camera already doing Time Lapse. There is a checkbox to disable the camera time lapse but I never turn it off. It has come in quite handy in my ability to send the video to customers I find on the net who I can show I've done the work and then they send the money with confidence.
Also you mentioned a plug in that allows to not print a particular item. But perhaps you may have missed a feature that I never hear about where the printer operator can stop printing an item that may have fallen over or such. When I am printing dozens of parts at one time, one might fail and when I see the spaghetting happening, I can turn off the continued printing of that object so as to not mess up further parts. Check out that feature as you may have missed it. I love it and never hear people mentioning it.
I bed level every 12-20 prints depending on how much vibration there is. I usually skip most of the flow calibrations. I basically do that when I change filaments. Once the machine is up and running, it can print>repeat pretty well.Also, I have to say, once I tried the new liquid glue, I have zero bed adhesion issues. I recommend you try it. It works, it's easy to apply, less messy and cleans off easily. I can apply one coat of glue and get several prints out of the one application. Good stuff! These machines are game changers. Meanwhile, I agree with you, Prusa is falling way behind. I actually canceled my XL preorder.
I think this stuff is similar to the Magigoo Bed Adhession glue and it works 100% of the time with out making the printbed tacky.
Something that is frustrating to a lot of Bambu users is the cloud. Last week it was down and you could not print using it. I never want to go back to using a SD card, and the LAN option is pretty much useless. The LAN option could be made to function just as well as the Bambu Cloud, I'm thinking that will be a hack someone will come up with quickly.
It feels like it's abit of a regression that they wont allow some kind of rpi installable app or somthing to upload to the machine. I don't like sd cards either but klipper or octoprint have made it easy to bypass. I'd be annoyed with out them.
I am having issues with PVA print quality on my X1C. Would love to see a video using BambuLab PLA and a dissolvable Raised 3D PVA+ material.
Looking forward to buying a bambu lab x1 carbon. Great video!
Hope you enjoy it! Use my link when you do please?
With how well your videos are edited and produced, I assumed your channel had at least a couple million subscribers. I hope to see you grow and thank you for the informative video!
Wow, thank you!
Hi I am considering an Adventure 4 from Flash Forge. But how does this compares with the X1?
My P1P arrived today and i’m in love like never before. This printer is just crazy but I’m scared of printing on 100% every time. Maybe it could handle the speed very well, but we don’t know for how long. I’m from Germany and can’t order any Bambu Lab filament (except ABS, but yeah it’s the P1P) so I hope that they get a huge restock. Thanks for your Videos and your opinion about this beast!
100% is where it defaults to. After a few days of being amazed at the speed and quality of the parts it produced, I figured out how to adjust the print speed. Now, I typically adjust the speed up to Sport mode and let er rip. Ludicrous mode still makes my butthole pucker a little and I only use it when the part is small enough to not have to be making long sweeps across the entire build plate. Seriously, the print head is damn near a blur when printing in Ludicrous mode. But I do trust the engineers that came up with these incredible machines that it's not going to RUD when running as fast as it can.
@@jims6450 thank you for these informations! Yeah, maybe my brain starts accepting those accelerations after some more prints… Which filament brand are you using? I can’t order any bamboo pla/petg so i’m looking for an alternative, don’t wanna mess around with the slicer profile (switching from Cura and having a new printer is kinda stressful) and f up the quality. Thanks mate 🙏
As thorough, professional, and enjoyable as always. Great video
Thank you so much. Hope you're subbed
@@thenextlayer I am subbed 😁
I print ABS 99% of the time so I let my bed get to temp and sit for 5-10 minutes to heat the chamber up some.
Enjoying your videos on the Bambu printer which will be my next printer. Your own experience with these printers is very informative.
Looking forward for more content on your journey with this printer.
Thank you!
It would make for a very interesting comparison if you were to take the Bambu Studio slicer and choose the Ender 3 as the current printer to see how it works on the Enders. I imagine that perhaps Enders with the Klipper firmware upgrade installed would be the closest variety of enders to try it out on. Love my Bambu X1C too. Using my Snapmaker F350 now feels like I'm taking a step back in time. To be honest, as soon as the Bambu sales guys get back from their CNY benders, I'm getting me another X1C combo system.
It doesn’t support adding Enders I don’t think. Maybe with custom profiles. But you won’t see any benefits over Prusa slicer. The slider is just a very small part of the performance if anything at all
True. I really want to buy the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon even though it might be my first printer but I guess because of these limitations of it being the Apple of 3d printers, I'd have to settle for a do it all Android like Creality Ender 3 S1 Pro so that I can get replacement parts etc in my country.
I switched to the Bambulab at the end of July 2023 and a textured Plate that doesn't need Glue stick is available at BabumLab now. I must admit that I am just like you, meaning that I came from Makerbot Method Carbon to the new X1C. It's wow.... like night and day... Bambulab is so faaaar away from the best "fully automatized" 3D printers... I have bought 2 AMS so it is now able to handle 8 colors, and it is just insane...
Yep.
Do you think you could do a quick video on how to set the bamboo lab to not purge so much? You kind of passed over it so quickly I didn’t even know that menu was available. A lot of times I just print by layer which does save a lot. I don’t even turn on the purge tower but occasionally I want to do a multicolor print where I can paint the colors and I would like to change the amount of purge since I don’t really worry about bleed through, thank you like your channel
The hot end fan on my P1P stopped working only 3 weeks after I received it. Had to wait a week to order because Bamboo Labs were out of stock. 😟
A couple questions: I've never used glue sticks... textured plates only. Do you need to use glue for the smooth plate that's included? (How do you get the glue off the model...wipe it off with warm water?) Can you purchase a separate textured plate instead? And if so, does that affect the use of the Lidar Scanner? Thanks for you videos!
A lot of people tell me that they don’t use glue stick for the cool plate, I didn’t have as much luck, but maybe I should try again. It’s best to remove glue stick with high-quality dish soap, and hot water.
I seem to remember you saying Bambu Lab sent you the X1 Carbon (maybe I'm wrong). But if you were starting with neither printer, but still had your Prusa, based on price and functionality which would you get: The X1 Carbon or the Voron? I think that would be a very interesting comparison video.
I’ll do a video. Apples and oranges
Mentioning the air filter (that I agree should definitely be updated), do we know how well of an enclosure the printer is? I only ask because on Edge of Tech's maintenance video for it, he mentioned black dust that builds up in the printer, and suspected it came from the carbon fiber rods wearing with use? I don't know if that's actually what's causing it, but isn't carbon fiber dust highly toxic?
Maybe you're going to do a video on this, or I missed one you've already done, but the Wham Bam website doesn't seem to mention higher temp filaments like PC/PA on the X1C. I did see a passing mention of them in general, just saying they may need glue stick. I'm not sure if that will be necessary with the enclosure.
Since they're sponsoring you, maybe you'd be able to do a video on using the PEX build surface with some of these filaments. I'm happy with the Bambulab textured and high temp plates, but I don't use the smooth surface with anything but PLA due to over-adhesion concerns. It might be nice to have a smooth option like this for other filaments (but not PETG apparently).
Oooooh, that's a great idea, I'll try them. I don't have any PC here, but I do have a bunch like PA Nylon and even some more exotic stuff...
I'm an Apple guy and have been since I was a kid, watching my dad unbox and set up a Macintosh LC on a rickety table in the main bedroom of our house. And I have to agree that the walled garden approach works (at least for me) with phones...I'm not as convinced that it's the best way to go with 3D printers, at least the way it's working now where the only 3rd-party solutions are those that are reverse engineered and could potentially be invalidated with future software updates. The X1C is obviously a fantastic printer but it's not the end-all, be-all solution - anyone who wants to do quality multi-material printing but doesn't have the space or ability to buy a standalone IDEX printer is out of luck if all they have is an X1C in their possession, while there are modification options for people with printers that practically beg to be tinkered with, for example.
In other words, I feel no compulsion to hack my phone but I would like to have the option to hack my printer to do whatever I need it to do. As long as the rest of the industry refrains from following suit, there will be plenty of space for people who prefer a one-source solution for their printing needs and for people who want to mix and match to their hearts' content. But even Apple and Nintendo let other people play in their respective sandboxes, and Bambu Labs should consider doing the same if they want to maximize their foothold in the consumer and prosumer 3D printing market.
Is the exhaust fan something you could add post-print gcode to handle?
Hi I have an ender 3 s1 and I connected a fan to it and it gave off a burnt smell and now the fan doesn't work I tried to change the fan I tried the motherboard in the extruder and it still doesn't work I would be happy if you could tell me if you know what the problem could be
So again I’m not hearing you say anything overly negative about the x1 carbon. If anything I’d say you not only complimented the printer, but painted a realistic picture of things hopefully to come.
I figure I’ll pull the trigger on an x1 in the next month or so. I don’t forsee the need for an AMS system for my needs so I’ll likely forgo that option. I’ll also either purchase the Bambu labs pei plate or source a third party plate. I’m also contemplating purchasing a spare .04 nozzle as well as a couple of .06 nozzles and likely spare wipers as I’ve heard they can take a beating. I know there is a print file for them but want to reserve that option as an emergency plan. I’ve also heard about some machines having issues with the motherboard cooling fan so will cross that bridge if I have to.
Hopefully I won’t need much more then that for a while. I’m really chomping at the bit for a faster printer, as the best I can do with what I have is in the 60-70mm per second which is abysmally slow never mind the other printers I have that run at a draconian 40mm ps.
Thanks for the update and the useful insight.
BAmboo NEEDS to implement everything you suggested... It would only benefit them..!!!
Thanks for the informative video. Opening up to third-party seems like a win-win indeed. @The Next Layer, have you noticed VFAs or ripples (not to be confused with ghosting or ringing) on your prints? BambuLab’s printers seems to be suffering from VFA’s (BambuLabs discord has a thread discussing the topic and exploring fixes) so I’d like to see a comparison with Voron, Prusa, etc, especially a comparison in quality. Many people who sell prints need a reliable print quality after all.
My prints have all been literally flawless... it's uncanny
I would love to see a comparison between the bambu x1 and voron 2.4.
great video
A reminder to support great content creators like this one. There is also a Patreon which puts more $$ in coffers to continue the cause.
Not sure where you got the info on the exhaust fan (which slicer and firmware version would be useful) but I am currently printing a big run of models in PETG (slightly customised the bed temps is the only change over the stock settings) and the chamber fan is on throughout the build in that case without me doing anything - just sending it from the slicer with no interaction on the printer itself or pressing the button in the slicer/handy app.
PETG vents but also has almost no VOCs. ABS is a different story.
@@thenextlayer weird how they have chosen to switch on the exhaust for PETG then - and like you say it isn't setting exposed in the slicer options.
I love what you are doing, and like always this was an awesome review. I have a particular question if you cand help me. I work away from home, mostly 4 months away. I want an easy to use 3D printer reliable, one witch also my wife can use it. I have an Anycubic Chiron but is not very consistent. I was thinking about Bambu Lab x1 Carbon (without AMS system) or Prusa i3 mk3S+. What you think. Thank you for your time
Bambu Lab X1 Carbon all day long. It tells you what's wrong right on the screen. Did you see my recent "Dear Prusa Research" video? I can't recommend ANYONE buy a Prusa until they update their products.
@@thenextlayer Thank you very much for your response. Yup i see the brake up video 😂 posted only one week before Valentine's Day. I will order mine now. Thank you again
So I’m new to 3D printing thinking of getting this or p1p however I would have to print in my bedroom should it be safe or would I get have to get another purifier for room?
This will be safe as it’s closed but it will be too loud to operate while you try to sleep
@@thenextlayer thank you for response can’t use at night anyhow due to apartment I live in atm.
Please videos about the new BambuLab P1P. Really, looking forward to it. Thank you ☺️
My X1C came with a dual-sided textured/smooth plate.
the bit about the activated carbon filter is a bit surprising to me. I would assume that pushing air through the filter would be part of the print settings for the filaments that do the nasty stuff
Man oh man I’ve got to stop watching your videos. You make me want to order an X1 lol 😂 I just got into printing at the end of last year, thanks for all your support and hard work!
I think the chamber fan setting is something that the original Prusa Slicer simply doesn't implement. Also I'd think that the chamber fan should really only run after the print: you want your chamber to stay warm while the print is going. Maybe have the fan spinning at its lowest speed just to maintain a bit of negative pressure, but it shouldn't be running full bore. Either way, that's something that they could just put into the G-code, but that wouldn't give you as much control.
I'm not saying that your concern is invalid: far from it, it's a very good point. I'm just saying that this probably would've been a feature that's harder to cleanly add to Prusa Slicer.
I feel like open source is kind of the thing that made 3d printers grow to what they are now and what makes them so awesome. I'm not saying I wouldn't like a bambu labs printer at some point but I guess we will just have to see what happens. Im still happy with my Ender3 and after I get a couple more I'm going for a Prusa. Happy printing. It looks awesome.
I just got a p1p after using 2 enders for my business. I'm so relaxed now knowing it won't randomly stop working and orders can be churned out 4x faster. Game changer
I'm fine with the walled garden, but what I don't like is that if I want to get some of their filament their EU shop is nearly constantly out of stock.
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Possibly a flipper zero to read fil type rfid and make new ones to put on existing rolls? That’s if you can find the rfid chip they use 😂 Geat video! can’t wait to get one of these bad boys!
Good video but I will enjoy if you make a video to share your experience with more budget friendly printer like Sovol SV06. How is it working for you stock, did you change anything on it, what slicer settings you use etc. :)
Hi! I can do that! I have been enjoying the SV06, it's a great starter printer :) I use default prusa profiles.
BTW you can change the slicer because it's open source, and there are forks or this slicer.
I strongly agree with a lot of these (niche) points. However, you could greatly improve some minor things from a preproduction/production/editing standpoint. It's hard to balance this with a new kiddo (I'm an uncle and I kinda get it). Your drive and personality is as always great, so just keep on keeping on and don't give up. You should definitely have a live chat with your paterons(sooner than later) from time to time just to keep your drive going.
The walled garden approach Bamboo Labs is using ultimately what made me choose a Prusa Mk4, even though I was looking for an out of the box coreXY. This is a really cool looking machine, but the open-source community is what built the 3d printing community, and is why 3d printing is where it's at today. It just looks so shady IMHO. I do really hope it spurs Prusa to step it up and produce a smaller coreXY and push them to get more innovative.
I think the voron 2.4 vs bambu could be an interesting discussion. They have different audiences, but a video on what type of person might want which printer could be interesting. just get it done = bambu, tinkerer = voron, etc...
I will likely do that video soon, make sure you're subscribed
Most of us 3D printing enthusiasts are always in a hurry to finish a print but only to fail halfway because we skipped bed cleaning, leveling, adhesion and proper extruder heat and flow... do it once the right way... plus, the speed will make up for the start up delay...
So even though you returned it, it’s still great.
I have went from A1 recall, P1S stuck cutter I returned but now want Mac Daddy X1-carbon Will I be happy
Does it come with the ruff plate? I heard it’s extra
I didn't return it.
They now come with a textured plate.
@@thenextlayer Cool 😎 they come with the texture plate. I don’t have to get it appreciate that you telling me that.
Um just fyi. I dont know if itnis in an firmware update but i have the P1P enclosed and have added all the fans.
My chmaber fan turns on according to material printing and bed temp.
I discovered this because it wasnt coming on so i thought it wasnt working. But then when i switched to abs it came on the. Went back to pla and it didnt come on. Also i noticed that if i try to control % it will go to where i set it then right back to where it thinks it should be unless i manually turn it off then back on
It takes forever to start..... but, its worth it, it levels the bed, it makes sure your first layer is perfect, it lets you know if it thinks spahetti is going to happen and lets not forget how FAST it is once it starts to print. I've had mine for three days and I am in awe of this machine, and I haven't even made a multicolour print yet.
Agreed.
Hearing that you think the X1 will replace your MK3s+ felt like a punch in the gut. My MK3S+ has been such a workhorse for so long I was not emotionally prepared for it to be dethroned like this. 😂
Same... but... compared to the Bambu, it looks like a 12 year old kid's science class project. Seriously.
WhamBam for channel sponsor? :P
Natural segues and well incorporated plugs. Amazing
Thanks. That’s a big complement!!
what are your thoughts about the future of printer pricing? You previously mentioned that the bambu labs business model may be losing money this round but Prusa and Anker can't be selling as many units with this encroaching on their market share?
I think we're going to see printers are $1k for a while, it's a new segment for "it just works" - but I also think that $250 printers are going to be around for a while. The SV06 is great for that price.