I almost smashed that DISLIKE button for Shai Linne's Eagle's Sweater. But then I remembered that He's my brother in Christ.. so I'll have grace on him! lol
This was recorded before the summer as Brindle's most recent child is already a couple of months old. However, that's neither here or there, this installment of the chopping block is dope, glory to God...#longlivethetruth!!!
I can relate to S.O. and his love story, I have known my wife for 13 years and we broke up and got back together at different points in our life and God orchestrated our story in a special way that when we had both given up on love we found each other again and reconnected and got married.
At the beginning of my walk in faith I prayed for gospel music with a street feel. The kind of music that the dopeboys in the ghetto would listen to. It was few and far, hard to find. But after lecrae won the Grammy I began to see many more Christian rappers developing. Than I began to pray that the lord would put the Christian gospel rap right on the same big stage as mainstream media.
To the first question, if you call yourself a believer in Christ then they would BELIEVE in his words and not try to twist or omit scriptures to suit your own desires.
There are many ways the Gospel can be portrayed through music but the issue is most mainstream artist have lost the Gospel part of their music and just focus on good morals and good living. You don't need to do a musical surmon to share the gospel through music but if the music doesn't bring glory to God then it can't be called Gospel or even Christian.
I agree with what Brutha Shai said as he highlighted an important doctrinal truth. We Christians, believers in the true and living God, who have been purchased, by the precious blood of Christ, have a responsibility, duty and service to our God, to faithfully use every opportunity through wisdom in love to "Contend for the faith!" To compete with the chance of winning...some to Christ! As a Christian artist, I pray that we must maintain visual clarity in our IDENTITY in CHRIST. Eph. 1:18-19aI pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened so that you will know:- What is the hope of His calling- What are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the Saints- And what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe.
The only part I really dislike and was sooooo disappointed about was Timothy Brindle saying that from marrying his wife, he realized how racist and prejudice he is. Using the doctrine total depravity to justify saying how racist he is. Man I thought he was one of the last godly man standing against this poison called critical race theory. First, I'd like to hear examples of how he truly was racist. Then I'd like one of the darker skinned folks talk about how racist they are because of total depravity. This makes me so sad to hear Timothy capitulate to the lie like this. Also, I'd like to hear one of these men define what racism is. There's one thing to commit the sin of showing partiality and repent of it. It seems like all my favorite Christian rappers are capitulating to the Zeitgeist. Golly man..... Man it makes me want to cry..... Edit here: just found relief in a recent video addressing all my concerns listed above. Talk to Tim now and I'll bet he tells a much different story. We learn and we grow. Thanks be to God who keeps us! A big sigh of relief for a video called the dangers of social justice and critical care theory with Timothy Brindle from 5 months ago. Watch that video to get encouragement and truth regarding this topic. Thanks be to God for Timothy Brindle who has rejected the wokeness cult, the fake social justice gospel which denies the all sufficiency of Christ work on the cross. 🙌
Great subjects and great chopping it up. We need to rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15) to be workman that need not be ashamed. Chopping it up may have different dynamics in a conversation, but it doesn't negate the truth of God. Appreciated the subjects talked about. Especially appreciated what Shai said about having the privilege to proclaim the name of Jesus. I also appreciated that he had his Bible and quoted from it. Christians need to remember that the scriptures are God-breathed and sufficient for all things (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Our view on all things, despite the different dynamics involved, must be Biblical.
I agree with your take regarding the BLM movement. I don't support BLM at all because of what it has become but I do agree that there is still racism and we need to fight it by obeying the word of God that says that we should love each other and be without preference. Instead of labeling entire groups of people as evil based on the actions of some let us deal with the situations individually.
i love these guys so much and I love everything they're saying from top to bottom. I want to bring up one uncomfortable issue that people aren't supposed to bring up. I hear reflection and conviction and repentance from White Christians when it comes to racism. I don't hear that same reflection, conviction, and repentance coming from Black Christians. I see finger pointing. I hear a great deal about the travails of the black experience and how I need to consider those things while i examine the motivations of my heart, well and good, how much consideration is given to those who have a completely different set of experiences? Are those experiences relevant? or do we just roll the eyes? I see Churches all across america that explicitly avoid integration and diversity, I see Churches that do not reflect the racial or social makeup of their communities AT ALL, and I'm not talking about "white" churches. there's a division in the church that's not being addressed, there are communities of believers that identify themselves first and foremost by skin color, that minister to skin color, that preach skin color, that divide or unify based on skin color. we're so busy convicting people of racism that they never think about, and ignore the racism that is on the minds of individuals on a daily basis. we are treating the cold and ignoring the cancer. we are dealing with a sin that the world has told us they would like fixed, and ignore the sin that we know we should deal with but are too uncomfortable to talk about.
Earl, I appreciate your candor and your honesty. Yes, sometimes the conversation about racism can be one-sided because we live in an America media driven world that highlights the prejudices against people of color in provocative ways. It seems like there's a underlying view of racism behind every situation and for the brethren that aren't from an African-American culture, we inadvertently tell them they need to address their racism and get their act together through repentance (which is true), but we don't address the same prejudice from those brethren of color that may feel they have a right to feel that way because they are the most oppressed. First and foremost, we know it is a sin issue (Romans 3:10-18, Ephesians 2:1-3, Jeremiah 17:9, 1 John 3:4). Second, we must know there are no races the way sinful man likes to define us; Acts 17:26 makes that clear. Third, we must know, as the church, that we can never address this sin issue the way the world does. Yes, we must have grace, compassion, and understanding, but we want to be careful not to subtly tell unsaved people of color that they're the biggest victims because of the man-made sin of racism. I appreciated everything these guys said about it, but it is difficult to talk about the other side of it because we've put this elephant in the room no one wants to talk about, which is, you can't talk about the prejudices of those of color or you'll look like a racist hater yourself. This shouldn't be in the church, but it happens when we bring the vain deceits and philosophies of the world into the church instead of bewaring of it (Colossians 2:8). We should address this issue (and all issues) as Christians from the perspective of Galatians 3:28 and Colossians 3:11 where our position in Christ overrides our sex, culture, language, and social status. When we begin there, we can speak on these things as brethren and not be afraid to address these issues through the truth of scripture and the love of Christ. It doesn't mean the conversation is always easy, but it shouldn't be avoided because we are the body of Christ.
you encapsulate my feelings to a T. thanks for reinforcing it with scripture too. I long (groan even) for unity in the Church, not just on matters of race, but even in the details of interpersonal relationships in the local church. I can't wait for the new heaven and new earth and glorified bodies
Amen, Earl. And don't be afraid to lovingly begin these conversations. I am from the African-American community and remember two brethren (one white, one black, though I hate those terms, but I'm using them just for this example) arguing about that shooting of a young black kid years ago (forgot his name) and police "racism." I let them go back and forth for about five minutes before I interrupted and said, "You both have been debating this subject and neither one of you have brought scripture to bear on the situation. Don't you guys believe 2 Timothy 3:16-17 and 1 John 3:4?" That gave them pause and we started again using scripture as our guide. I am a firm believer as a Christian in having a Biblical worldview in all things, even matters of race. I recommend two great messages, you can probably find them on CZcams. One is One Race, One Blood from Answers in Genesis. It is a Biblical view on race. And a recent message on SermonAudio from Voddie Baucham called One Blood, which goes over this situation. He does talk about racism from the perspective of the African-American community (rightly), but does a great job of giving an overarching view of this subject. You are so correct; the local churches need to be Biblical about these things. In glory, this won't be happening (and, I too can't wait). As a Christian from the African-American culture that has been saved by His grace, do you know how I handle the "racism" towards me from the past and the present? I forgive like I've been forgiven by Christ (since I am also a wretched sinner) and I love my enemies. These are Biblical commands and we need to heed them, no matter our skin tone. God bless, brother.
Mike W I think that we focus more on the sacrificial aspect and not on the edification, growth, nurturing, evolving and enhancement that marriage can bring. How much do you know about intergenenerational trauma? How much do you know about Attachment Styles in childhood and how it effects adult relationships? How it effects our approaches, views and mindsets with regards to marriage?
I don't fully agree with the "it comes down to the motive" part because people can have good motives and still do horrible things because they genuinely think it's right.
Praise God for your art. May the Lord keep you all spreading the Gospel. Grace and Peace !
Word up shai, we stray every. God in our hearts is the only thing. Your music is truly blessful
"If you're not willing to sacrifice your wants...your desires...just chill bro, play playstation or something." Haha.
I can’t wait for the Unfolding.
Love how your rap extensively shows .it's all about your heart
I almost smashed that DISLIKE button for Shai Linne's Eagle's Sweater. But then I remembered that He's my brother in Christ.. so I'll have grace on him! lol
Lols and then they won the super bowl! Sincerely an Eagles fan who is also in Christ lol. Love you bro!
I am a Patriots fan. But my social circle included Shai in 2002 amd we became good friends anyways because we both love Jesus.
More please...love it guys. AGTG
Good stuff! Thank you for sharing.
We need more of these thank you soo much Grace and Peace to you all
This was recorded before the summer as Brindle's most recent child is already a couple of months old. However, that's neither here or there, this installment of the chopping block is dope, glory to God...#longlivethetruth!!!
Awesome Video love the Chopping block! Reppin the Lord down here in Yuma AZ!!!
Praise God for you mans. So dope !
How did I miss this?? Right in my back yard, L.A.
Thank you to the entire panel for sharing your thoughts on all the issues and questions. That was a great interview. As always, ALL GLORY TO GOD!!!!
Glory
so true.preach
Thanks for my birthday present today, guys.
happy birthday mike! Serve Christ forever!
Go Shai!!! (20.00) brother in Christ!
Word and amen.
Amen!
I enjoyed watching this as always
Different take on one thing, but blessed for a different, GOD centered view.
Thank you for creating this forum
I live in Southern Cali..umm how did I miss this 😭
I can relate to S.O. and his love story, I have known my wife for 13 years and we broke up and got back together at different points in our life and God orchestrated our story in a special way that when we had both given up on love we found each other again and reconnected and got married.
At the beginning of my walk in faith I prayed for gospel music with a street feel. The kind of music that the dopeboys in the ghetto would listen to. It was few and far, hard to find. But after lecrae won the Grammy I began to see many more Christian rappers developing. Than I began to pray that the lord would put the Christian gospel rap right on the same big stage as mainstream media.
❤️🔥
Timothy Brindle is a presuppositional apologist! Right on!
Who else is here during Coronavirus lockdown?
To the first question, if you call yourself a believer in Christ then they would BELIEVE in his words and not try to twist or omit scriptures to suit your own desires.
There are many ways the Gospel can be portrayed through music but the issue is most mainstream artist have lost the Gospel part of their music and just focus on good morals and good living. You don't need to do a musical surmon to share the gospel through music but if the music doesn't bring glory to God then it can't be called Gospel or even Christian.
amen brother, im looking at you lecrae
I agree with what Brutha Shai said as he highlighted an important doctrinal truth. We Christians, believers in the true and living God, who have been purchased, by the precious blood of Christ, have a responsibility, duty and service to our God, to faithfully use every opportunity through wisdom in love to "Contend for the faith!" To compete with the chance of winning...some to Christ! As a Christian artist, I pray that we must maintain visual clarity in our IDENTITY in CHRIST. Eph. 1:18-19aI pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened so that you will know:- What is the hope of His calling- What are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the Saints- And what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe.
The only part I really dislike and was sooooo disappointed about was Timothy Brindle saying that from marrying his wife, he realized how racist and prejudice he is. Using the doctrine total depravity to justify saying how racist he is. Man I thought he was one of the last godly man standing against this poison called critical race theory. First, I'd like to hear examples of how he truly was racist. Then I'd like one of the darker skinned folks talk about how racist they are because of total depravity. This makes me so sad to hear Timothy capitulate to the lie like this. Also, I'd like to hear one of these men define what racism is. There's one thing to commit the sin of showing partiality and repent of it. It seems like all my favorite Christian rappers are capitulating to the Zeitgeist. Golly man.....
Man it makes me want to cry.....
Edit here: just found relief in a recent video addressing all my concerns listed above. Talk to Tim now and I'll bet he tells a much different story. We learn and we grow. Thanks be to God who keeps us! A big sigh of relief for a video called the dangers of social justice and critical care theory with Timothy Brindle from 5 months ago. Watch that video to get encouragement and truth regarding this topic. Thanks be to God for Timothy Brindle who has rejected the wokeness cult, the fake social justice gospel which denies the all sufficiency of Christ work on the cross. 🙌
Great subjects and great chopping it up. We need to rightly divide the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15) to be workman that need not be ashamed. Chopping it up may have different dynamics in a conversation, but it doesn't negate the truth of God. Appreciated the subjects talked about. Especially appreciated what Shai said about having the privilege to proclaim the name of Jesus. I also appreciated that he had his Bible and quoted from it. Christians need to remember that the scriptures are God-breathed and sufficient for all things (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Our view on all things, despite the different dynamics involved, must be Biblical.
Why dont they mention bryann trejo top of the christian rap charts
Does S.O. live in Texas now?
yes.
I agree with your take regarding the BLM movement. I don't support BLM at all because of what it has become but I do agree that there is still racism and we need to fight it by obeying the word of God that says that we should love each other and be without preference. Instead of labeling entire groups of people as evil based on the actions of some let us deal with the situations individually.
Where is this?
Joseph Wright Conference in California
All lives matter, couldn't even step on an ant. after the awakening.
People think chh, is soft. Like God is soft .
i love these guys so much and I love everything they're saying from top to bottom. I want to bring up one uncomfortable issue that people aren't supposed to bring up. I hear reflection and conviction and repentance from White Christians when it comes to racism. I don't hear that same reflection, conviction, and repentance coming from Black Christians. I see finger pointing. I hear a great deal about the travails of the black experience and how I need to consider those things while i examine the motivations of my heart, well and good, how much consideration is given to those who have a completely different set of experiences? Are those experiences relevant? or do we just roll the eyes? I see Churches all across america that explicitly avoid integration and diversity, I see Churches that do not reflect the racial or social makeup of their communities AT ALL, and I'm not talking about "white" churches. there's a division in the church that's not being addressed, there are communities of believers that identify themselves first and foremost by skin color, that minister to skin color, that preach skin color, that divide or unify based on skin color. we're so busy convicting people of racism that they never think about, and ignore the racism that is on the minds of individuals on a daily basis. we are treating the cold and ignoring the cancer. we are dealing with a sin that the world has told us they would like fixed, and ignore the sin that we know we should deal with but are too uncomfortable to talk about.
Earl, I appreciate your candor and your honesty. Yes, sometimes the conversation about racism can be one-sided because we live in an America media driven world that highlights the prejudices against people of color in provocative ways. It seems like there's a underlying view of racism behind every situation and for the brethren that aren't from an African-American culture, we inadvertently tell them they need to address their racism and get their act together through repentance (which is true), but we don't address the same prejudice from those brethren of color that may feel they have a right to feel that way because they are the most oppressed. First and foremost, we know it is a sin issue (Romans 3:10-18, Ephesians 2:1-3, Jeremiah 17:9, 1 John 3:4). Second, we must know there are no races the way sinful man likes to define us; Acts 17:26 makes that clear. Third, we must know, as the church, that we can never address this sin issue the way the world does. Yes, we must have grace, compassion, and understanding, but we want to be careful not to subtly tell unsaved people of color that they're the biggest victims because of the man-made sin of racism.
I appreciated everything these guys said about it, but it is difficult to talk about the other side of it because we've put this elephant in the room no one wants to talk about, which is, you can't talk about the prejudices of those of color or you'll look like a racist hater yourself. This shouldn't be in the church, but it happens when we bring the vain deceits and philosophies of the world into the church instead of bewaring of it (Colossians 2:8). We should address this issue (and all issues) as Christians from the perspective of Galatians 3:28 and Colossians 3:11 where our position in Christ overrides our sex, culture, language, and social status. When we begin there, we can speak on these things as brethren and not be afraid to address these issues through the truth of scripture and the love of Christ. It doesn't mean the conversation is always easy, but it shouldn't be avoided because we are the body of Christ.
you encapsulate my feelings to a T. thanks for reinforcing it with scripture too. I long (groan even) for unity in the Church, not just on matters of race, but even in the details of interpersonal relationships in the local church. I can't wait for the new heaven and new earth and glorified bodies
Amen, Earl. And don't be afraid to lovingly begin these conversations. I am from the African-American community and remember two brethren (one white, one black, though I hate those terms, but I'm using them just for this example) arguing about that shooting of a young black kid years ago (forgot his name) and police "racism." I let them go back and forth for about five minutes before I interrupted and said, "You both have been debating this subject and neither one of you have brought scripture to bear on the situation. Don't you guys believe 2 Timothy 3:16-17 and 1 John 3:4?" That gave them pause and we started again using scripture as our guide. I am a firm believer as a Christian in having a Biblical worldview in all things, even matters of race. I recommend two great messages, you can probably find them on CZcams. One is One Race, One Blood from Answers in Genesis. It is a Biblical view on race. And a recent message on SermonAudio from Voddie Baucham called One Blood, which goes over this situation. He does talk about racism from the perspective of the African-American community (rightly), but does a great job of giving an overarching view of this subject. You are so correct; the local churches need to be Biblical about these things. In glory, this won't be happening (and, I too can't wait). As a Christian from the African-American culture that has been saved by His grace, do you know how I handle the "racism" towards me from the past and the present? I forgive like I've been forgiven by Christ (since I am also a wretched sinner) and I love my enemies. These are Biblical commands and we need to heed them, no matter our skin tone. God bless, brother.
31:45-33:00 The Devil is busy
34:38-34:50 needs to be highlighted as well.
Mike W The Gamers Comment ?
Marsha Creary The fact that marriage is sacrifice.
Mike W I think that we focus more on the sacrificial aspect and not on the edification, growth, nurturing, evolving and enhancement that marriage can bring. How much do you know about intergenenerational trauma? How much do you know about Attachment Styles in childhood and how it effects adult relationships? How it effects our approaches, views and mindsets with regards to marriage?
Marsha Creary No one said marriage wasn't those things as well.
I don't fully agree with the "it comes down to the motive" part because people can have good motives and still do horrible things because they genuinely think it's right.
I got Christ-centered motives and nonChrist-centered motives out of that
Prejudism.