Balancing A Surface Grinding Wheel - Revisited

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  • čas přidán 19. 10. 2021
  • This video is a revisit of my previous video on balancing a surface grinding wheel. I am using a balance ring from Outside Screwball.
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Komentáře • 51

  • @TheKnacklersWorkshop
    @TheKnacklersWorkshop Před 2 lety +2

    Hello Steve,
    An interesting video... Thanks for sharing...
    Take care.
    Paul,,

  • @outsidescrewball
    @outsidescrewball Před 2 lety +2

    Nice video Steve, thank you for the product review, I haven’t had a wheel that heavily out of balance as your example….best, C

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      It worked well. I was not surprised because it was the same as the other wheel that I did. As I showed in the video the wheel that I drilled took a lot of material removal to balance it. I used to balance 24" crankshaft grinding wheels and we actually used lead washers that screwed to the side of the hub. Thank you again for making them available.

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you very informative very interesting I hope to get my tool cutter grinder up and running in the next 4 to 6 weeks this information will be helpful.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety +1

      I am looking forward to that. I don't always comment by I watch all of your videos.

  • @JamesP_TheShedShop
    @JamesP_TheShedShop Před 2 lety +2

    I'm really enjoying your channel and your projects. Like Mr.Pete's channel no annoying music and clear instructional. Thank you for your time and effort..

  • @markwatters6875
    @markwatters6875 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the reminder/refresher on this subject mate.

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video,Steve and I hope I´l get my new surface grinder soon this time and use it.Thank you.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for watching and commenting. My surface grinder gets used more than I expected when I purchased it. I adds a nice finishing touch to most projects.

  • @tced2858
    @tced2858 Před 2 lety +1

    Good one Steve...I decided to get at least one from Chuck also, now the need for one went back farther on the list...hope I don't loose my material I cobbled together to make some..they do work slick...!

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      I need a larger diameter one for 2 of my hubs so I think that I will be making a couple up anyway. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @hilltopmachineworks2131
    @hilltopmachineworks2131 Před 2 lety +2

    Perfect timing. Thanks Steve. Ironically I am currently building a balancing stand so I can Balance my wheels for my new surface grinder.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds like a plan. It really makes a difference on the surface finish. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @michaelhale4041
    @michaelhale4041 Před 2 lety +2

    Just got a boyer schultz 612 from Tom at hilltop machine works glad to see this video pop up thank you

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety +1

      I am going to keep my eye open for one of them. It will actually take up less room that my "bench top" grinder.

    • @michaelhale4041
      @michaelhale4041 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sharkrivermachine mine has some problems but I thought it would be a good one to learn on.

  • @HaxbyShed
    @HaxbyShed Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thanks Steve. Useful for me. Cheers

  • @andrewevans1658
    @andrewevans1658 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice video Steve. I should probably purchase some of those. I also need to build or buy a balancing arbor to use with my balancing stands.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      I turned this arbor. There is a video on it. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop

    Good work on the part of both of you. Thanks for the video.

  • @russelldold4827
    @russelldold4827 Před 2 lety +1

    Been looking forward to this one. Thanks for posting, Steven.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety +1

      I have been going to make this video for a long time. Glad that was able to get it done. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @charlieromeo7663
    @charlieromeo7663 Před 2 lety +1

    Looks like a neat design. I made a balancing ring with adjustable weights so it’s not at the mercy of the fixed weight of the set screws. It’s essentially a cup with thin edges that are perpendicular to the wheel sides around which the weights are adjusted. The balance procedure I use is in the Jones & Shipman 540 manual. The results are remarkable. Be well, Steve.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      I have seen that style hub. They are very expensive. The ring works well for an existing hub that does not have that feature. I am always on the lookout for hubs, maybe I will find one. Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @danielabbey7726
    @danielabbey7726 Před 2 lety +1

    Very helpful to see this again, Steve. Like you, I'm a bit nervous about drilling wheels. Have an old T&C grinder that I would like to do light surface grinding on in the future.

  • @GoCreateHobbyMachineShop
    @GoCreateHobbyMachineShop Před 2 lety +1

    Looks a convenient way to balance a wheel, nice idea. It took me a good while to get good surface grinding results, a combination of wheel grit size and type etc. combined with balancing. I made the mistake of initially going for too fine a grit, a 36 grit wheel gave better results. Good luck with your experiments.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      I was rushing the grind a little. I have gotten better finishes in the past. I need to let it spark out after the final grind. I think that I am getting some noise in the machine from the belt. Need to investigate that. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @sierraspecialtyauto7049
    @sierraspecialtyauto7049 Před 2 lety +1

    Steve, I wonder if that wheel was so far out of balance that a good static balance is still out dynamically. I was amazed how much weight it took for a 1/4" wheel.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      The wheel that I balanced was actually a 1/2", I demoed the 1/4" to show the mounting. I think that one of of the reasons for the amount of weight is how close to the center the weight was applied. Building a dynamic balancer would be an interesting project. The other thing that I need to double check is the accuracy of the arbor. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Před 2 lety +1

    Man that wheel was out a lot to start with.

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      I certainly was. I am going to try a high quality wheel and see how that works. I am also going to check my arbor to make sure that is straight. Thanks for stopping by.

  • @OldIronMachineWorks
    @OldIronMachineWorks Před 2 lety +1

    Interesting video Steve, I'm looking forward to getting my grinder up and running. I'm also surprised how far out it was. Will be interesting to see what you find with it. Gary

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      I like using the grinder, it has been a good addition to the shop. Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @testyourdesign233
    @testyourdesign233 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the video Steve. I wonder if the remaining ripples are an indicator of some other issue. Could it be spindle bearing wear or motor vibration?

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      There is definitely some noise in the grinding system. I suspect the motor bearings. The spindle feels smooth. Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @joewest1972
    @joewest1972 Před rokem +1

    Hi I'm trying to locate a contact for outsidescrewball but for some reason my tablet sees no links or contact info. Can you please direct me? Thx

  • @jpsimon206
    @jpsimon206 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Steven, I was just shopping around for precision ground flat stones and consulting with a few YT machinists. A mutual friend told me that you offer them at a good rate. Can you point me to your website, or email?

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 2 lety

      Here is a link to my Etsy shop. I will be deactivating it this evening because I am going away for the weekend and will not be able to ship until Monday. www.etsy.com/shop/sharkrivermachine
      Thanks for your interest. You can send an email to me also and I will send a Paypal Invoice. sharkrivermachine@gmail.com

  • @surindersingh4786
    @surindersingh4786 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Sir you should do the dresser first

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 4 měsíci

      Always, I may have missed saying that but I always do. Have been grinding for over 50 years.

  • @shannonsears3496
    @shannonsears3496 Před 7 měsíci +1

    32 years precision grinding and i have never once needede to balance a 1/2 inch wide wheel. Neither has anyone i have ever worked with or shop owners. For some reason a lot of youtube amatures seem to like creating problems for no reason. I change wheels multiple times a day sometimes. This is just stupid!

    • @sharkrivermachine
      @sharkrivermachine  Před 7 měsíci

      We will need to agree to disagree. I am a retired machinist with over 50 years of experience. For normal commercial finishes your are right and the only grinding wheels that I ever balanced were 24" diameter crankshaft grinding wheels. As a home machinist I seek finer finishes than I ever attained commercially. Balancing these surface grinding wheels made enough of an improvement in the finish to make it worthwhile.

    • @shannonsears3496
      @shannonsears3496 Před 7 měsíci

      Journeyman tool and die maker here. 2 carbide shops and now over 10 doing all grinding in gage shop. possibly you just have a garbage spindle but i have built many draw dies and expand noses, also powdered metal dies all at 4 micro polished. No one ever complaines about my finishes. Only wheels i balance are 1" wide for something like a 6/18 wet grinder where wheel will stay on hub till worn out or larger wheels. No way i want a bunch of set screws spinning. @@sharkrivermachine

    • @shannonsears3496
      @shannonsears3496 Před 7 měsíci

      Im just saying sometimes im holding 2 micron, thats better than class b gage blocks and didnt balance the wheel. Not once ever. @@sharkrivermachine