Denafrips Ares upgrade by Ian Canada

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
  • Denafrips Ares DAC upgrade using components from Ian Canada. Discover how these enhancements can transform your Dac and take it to the pro level, bringing out the best in your audio setup. We'll cover the installation process, key benefits, and a detailed sound comparison.
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Komentáře • 76

  • @BrianS-xg5uq
    @BrianS-xg5uq Před 2 měsíci +4

    Brilliant stuff Gabster...now i need an upgrade kit for my pontus II ;)

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      If the Clocks are accessible can not see why not

    • @bryancox5192
      @bryancox5192 Před měsícem +1

      I'll second this, I have a Pontus II and am hoping Ian put out a kit for the upgrade.

  • @Pete.across.the.street
    @Pete.across.the.street Před 2 měsíci +1

    I replaced the clocks and power supply in my eversolo dmp-a8 with Ian Canada . Great improvements 🎉

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      Good tip! thanks for letting us know that it is possible with the Dmp-A8

    • @Pete.across.the.street
      @Pete.across.the.street Před měsícem

      ​@@Gabster1 pretty easy, since the clocks are the same pin out

  • @Geolog66
    @Geolog66 Před měsícem

    I have aquired the Iris 12th DDC as a bridge between my computer and my DAC and I am very satisfied.

    • @jungtarcph
      @jungtarcph Před měsícem

      can you hear the difference?

  • @BostonMike68
    @BostonMike68 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks Gab! I would love to be able to learn some of these diy projects, I have designed my own speakers . The main reason why I go the diy route is because of the money savings. I want good sound quality but I'm unfortunately on a budget and this is an expensive hobby. I could never have speakers like this if I didn't design and build myself.

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před 2 měsíci

      DiY is a amazing path not only you save but you can build things that are hard to buy and the biggest reward is the enjoyment you get doing it and the proud ownership that follows.

  • @LuxAudio389
    @LuxAudio389 Před měsícem +1

    It's probably economically better to have a local electronics repair shop do the upgrade. Shipping is still expensive, but it's superb that he offers to do it.

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      if you have someone close it is Ideal I doubt Ian has a lot of free time I think he is just doing it to help bear in mind the Ares is very small and light.

  • @michaelmajchrzak3476
    @michaelmajchrzak3476 Před měsícem

    Hello Gabi, nice video. It's definitely a good option for those who already have the Denafrips Ares. However, if someone is interested in this DAC, they should consider the Denafrips Ares 15th. I already have large-size clocks. Ian board won't be needed anymore.

  • @michel8166
    @michel8166 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Once again nice video, I'm really curious about the TDA1541A you are working on, I hear good reports about this type of TDA number DAC, I'm really looking forward to it.

    • @CollectingRetro
      @CollectingRetro Před měsícem +3

      The TDA1541A in a modern circuit is absolutely excellent. I have the MHDT Orchid & Orchid 69SE with upgraded output capacitors. I've been able to compare them to the Bricasti M3 and Audio Note DAC 4.1x Balanced Signature. I've found that I don't like the Audio Note sound and it was a very close race with the M3. I'm very happy to have compared them and realize there is little if anything to be gained by spending way more.

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem +1

      Coming soon! It is my favorite dac sound

    • @michaelmajchrzak3476
      @michaelmajchrzak3476 Před měsícem

      @@Gabster1 Do you consider sharing or selling schematics of your TDA DAC?

  • @mrpmj00
    @mrpmj00 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wow, I like the chart that shows his ratings in which the Ares upgrade sounds as good as a $2200 Holo Spring 3 (+150 shipping) = $2450
    (I have both the Ares II 12th and Pontus II 12th-1, Iris 12th)
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    source=Apple Music lossless

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem +1

      Do you hear a difference between the Ares and Pontus? I have heard a few Pontus dacs and was a bit disappointed by the Pontus but it could be the system and not the dac.

  • @kurt120032002
    @kurt120032002 Před 2 měsíci +5

    This is interesting, but I would be even more interested in a project about how to take Soekris 2941 system and upgrade it. Sure PSU is not that hard to upgrade, but I would be more interested in how to send an I2S signal in to that board. I think Soekris 2941 is a more interesting project then Ares becasue it is literally 500 Euros with very good performance for the price. I took a look at the layot but does not quite match with Ian Canada's reclock board for I2S.

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Soekris 2941 is a very interesting project to try, I think the Ares is a great platform to DIY it is good and ready to go we often forget the cost of adding power supplies enclosures etc...

    • @kurt120032002
      @kurt120032002 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Gabster1 I was not trying to put down Ares, I was just trying to point out that for DIY getting a complete board with very good performance for 500$ is a good proposition and as you said a very interesting project. I would try so see if there are people who can help me identify the proper connections to send the I2S. If I manage that, there is a lot to try with that board, power supply, IC's output stage, "audiophile" grade components to be replaced... receipts to be hidden from the wife.😄

  • @Nightjar726
    @Nightjar726 Před 2 měsíci +4

    At some point it would be good to see some measurements. I’m not 100% a measurements person, but this is starting to sound like a commercial.
    Some measurements please to see what diff the clocks make.
    Cheers and no offense

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      I think Ian did Measure the clocks phase noise Ares/ScPure
      iancanada.ca/blogs/news/denafrips-ares-12th-ii-r-2r-dac-clock-upgrade

  • @Roger-lz9ro
    @Roger-lz9ro Před měsícem

    This s great being able to change clocks on the Denafrips Ares

  • @beherit98
    @beherit98 Před měsícem

    I hope Ian Canada comes up with a mod for the denafrips pontus as well , that would be awesome !

  • @jungtarcph
    @jungtarcph Před měsícem

    But if you play via Optical, does the Aries even use the clock? Or only via USB?

  • @RumblestripDotNet
    @RumblestripDotNet Před měsícem +1

    The question I have is how would this upgrade compare to adding the IRIS DDC to the Ares 12th.

    • @carminedesanto6746
      @carminedesanto6746 Před měsícem

      I guess no change ..you’re unable to bypass its internal DAC.

  • @marcodeangelis4535
    @marcodeangelis4535 Před měsícem

    as always thank you for all your experiments, one question.....I noticed that on 1:25 of your video you powered 3.3v of the hdmi pro and Q7 directly to your UCPURE that's great! i have it too! but I can't understand why J7 jumpers on HDMIpro are short and not open to Takes 3.3V power supply from J3 ? thank you to aswer to my doubt

  • @ehickert
    @ehickert Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great video Gab! If you are using great clocks in your Ian Canada streamer, do you also need great clocks in the DAC? I believed that the Streamer clock would be the master clock for the DAC. Is this wrong?

    • @vladiny
      @vladiny Před 2 měsíci

      I'm interested in this answer also. I would think the DAC clocks overrides the streamer clocks or having sc-pure clocks on both streamer and DAC is best?

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem +1

      Most Dacs tend to reclock the stream regardless of origin even I2s a few let you bypass the internal clocks like the Holo Spring 3 The Denafrips Dac do not they reclock.

    • @vladiny
      @vladiny Před měsícem

      @@Gabster1 thank you! Then it’s worth it to do the upgrade on denafrips ares DAC.

  • @teknolojigundemi
    @teknolojigundemi Před 2 měsíci

    Your contents are very good. I recently bought Holo Audio Cyan 2 and need a quality streamer with good psu and clock to match price/performance. Upgrading clocks maybe next step for enchancin sound quality. Streamer must be stable and support both Android-IOS remote app's. Thank you.

  • @michaelmajchrzak3476
    @michaelmajchrzak3476 Před měsícem

    Do you consider sharing or selling schematics for TDA 1541A DAC?

  • @new-kids-on-the-block
    @new-kids-on-the-block Před 2 měsíci

    decoupling caps on the tda1541a ar best on 1.1uf

  • @mannytheseacow7381
    @mannytheseacow7381 Před měsícem

    Hi, Gabbie. I find the Ares to be rather thin in the low mids. Does upgrading the clock improve the low end at all?

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      It will a bit but not a lot I did find the bass a bit lower as well it could be the Ares output stage
      I am planning to try some other mods see if we can push it further in general not a big fan of the Ares or Pontus but for the price they are good.

    • @mannytheseacow7381
      @mannytheseacow7381 Před měsícem

      Thank you for the reply, Gabbie. I agree that the performance of the Ares is not that good given all the rave reviews elsewhere. I am on the fence determining if upgrading the clock will be worth the investment or if I would be better off just going with a different DAC.

  • @everardwilliams2918
    @everardwilliams2918 Před měsícem

    are ians clocks better than those in the terminator or the Gaia?

  • @jackgraves1006
    @jackgraves1006 Před měsícem

    I'm interested in this as an option for pontus 2

  • @tommiranta8817
    @tommiranta8817 Před 2 měsíci

    How would you describe the difference in sound characteristics between the Denafrips and Ian Canada dacs? E.g I’ve seen Denafrips being described as musical, how would you describe the sound of some of the higher end Ian Canada builds you’ve completed on this channel?

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem +1

      good clean Power supply and output stage tend to make the ESS Dacs sound as good sometimes better I think The Denafrips sound is not as musical as some say, it is kind of in-between The most musical I have heard is the TDA1541A

  • @d.s.cullom5461
    @d.s.cullom5461 Před měsícem

    Hi Gabbie! Love your channel. I’m not completely knowledgeable about clocks, but I thought I saw a CZcams video that talked about how the Dac’s internal clocks are used only with USB, all other digital inputs use the clocks in the source. Could you set me straight on this?

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem +1

      It Varies most Dacs tend to reclock the stream regardless of origin even I2s a few let you bypass the internal clocks like the Holo Spring 3 this is why this Diy hack works

    • @d.s.cullom5461
      @d.s.cullom5461 Před měsícem

      @@Gabster1 is there a way to know which dacs do or don't reclock coax etc. by reading the literature or specs.

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      @@d.s.cullom5461 95% do reclock try searching Holo spring bypassing clocks to get a Idea I never had one I can bypass

    • @wyup
      @wyup Před měsícem

      I think all Dacs reclock even those those with external clock sync input, regardless of USB, I2S or SPDIF. To make perfect sense the source stream should be synced with the same master clock aswell to be both in sync and not need to reclock, otherwise you have to resync with the source. That is the problem with dacs, they all use their own clock to decode and sync to the source clock signal, which carries its own jitter that may or may not be corrected. Only CD players use a single clock for dac and data stream.

  • @albertorobinson7611
    @albertorobinson7611 Před měsícem

    thats how is done

  • @carminedesanto6746
    @carminedesanto6746 Před 2 měsíci

    Greetings from Guelph.☕️🌧️
    I just sent an email to Denafrips regarding this upgrade..I’ll definitely be sending it out for the upgrade.
    Thanks for the video!

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem +1

      This is a DIY upgrade by IanCanada.ca not Denafrips

    • @carminedesanto6746
      @carminedesanto6746 Před měsícem

      GM☕️
      Ahhhhhh…I had to watch it again…
      I contacted IanCanada I’m damn interested in this upgrade!
      Thank You for this information and video!

    • @carminedesanto6746
      @carminedesanto6746 Před měsícem

      @@Gabster1 on the sound ..you’ve said more sparkle ✨ on the top ..how about the Bass ..a little more energy?
      I’m seriously considering this upgrade …

  • @x24valveman
    @x24valveman Před měsícem

    I am buying a Raspberry Pi for a similar project, I thought a 5, but which one is best 4Gb or 8Gb? A Ian Canada Streamer

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      4 is way more then enough I run some with a model 3 1Gb
      If you are not using a m.2 drive just a sim Card the 3b or 4 maybe less noisy

    • @x24valveman
      @x24valveman Před měsícem

      @@Gabster1 Thanks

  • @StofanoobN
    @StofanoobN Před měsícem

    Will this work/do anything for the new Ares 15th? Just ordered one today and this looks like a nice upgrade.

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      most likely yes if you can access the clocks should be the same

    • @youriermerdaner5950
      @youriermerdaner5950 Před měsícem

      how much do you pay? I'm getting interested in it recently

    • @StofanoobN
      @StofanoobN Před měsícem

      @@youriermerdaner5950 1190 euro. But now im thinking maybe go with the 12th edition. Looks like this clock upgrade wont work on the new 15th. They changed the layout around the wiring. But im a noob so maybe im wrong 🫡

  • @HoomanR17
    @HoomanR17 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Gabby . Great video. I have the Ares and while this upgrade looks good. I'm thinking of experimenting with a Tube DAC DIY that that I saw on iiWi's channel, a design by Lukasz Fikus (Lampucera) a take on the Lampizator DAC... I know you use tubes and have high efficiency speakers.. do you have any interest in that realm or have any feedback about this particular DIY direction... I ask since cost for parts, its basically the price of an AresII DAC.

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem

      I heard great things about the Lampucera Dac but never tried one I think it will be far better then the Ares if you do not mind DIY route you can then compare and sell the one you like the least :)

    • @HoomanR17
      @HoomanR17 Před měsícem

      @@Gabster1 Thanks for your reply. I don't mind the DIY.. It would be cool to see how you would "upgrade" the design for such a kit :)

  • @jackhastings9800
    @jackhastings9800 Před měsícem

    I would buy a LAiV Harmony DAC and pay the exta then doing that mod.

  • @nickolaymiltenov
    @nickolaymiltenov Před 2 měsíci +1

    My modest option is that if you can hear a difference only by replacing the clock.....well this DAC is poorly built and not good at all.

    • @Gabster1
      @Gabster1  Před měsícem +1

      It is a entry level Dac built to a certain price

  • @simonzinc-trumpetharris852
    @simonzinc-trumpetharris852 Před 2 měsíci

    Why not go the whole hog and put a Rubidium clock in there?

    • @iancanada
      @iancanada Před měsícem

      Rubidium clock doesn't have great phase noise performance because of the PLL. Only good at long term stability. Sound quality will not be benefit from Rubidium clocks.

  • @andreacountry8471
    @andreacountry8471 Před 21 dnem

    "Hights rolled off" isn't an upgrade...

    • @jamietholl
      @jamietholl Před 16 dny

      I believe he said the highs were NOT as rolled off

  • @matytinman
    @matytinman Před 2 měsíci

    Talking about very good recordings, today I have uploaded a Direct Disk 24/96 FLAC 0 vinyl rip with DR16. I think it is ideal to verify the audio system quality. 4K / AAC 192kbps.
    Bill Berry and his Ellington All-Stars - For Duke (1978) Vinyl
    czcams.com/video/EX2jQvwau78/video.html
    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    DR16 -0.88 dB -21.84 dB 4:26 01-Take the "A" Train
    DR14 -6.19 dB -26.11 dB 4:22 02-Mood Indigo
    DR16 -1.95 dB -20.45 dB 2:29 03-Things Ain't What They Used To Be
    DR16 -2.46 dB -23.01 dB 4:54 04-Perdido
    DR17 -0.73 dB -22.43 dB 3:25 05-Satin Doll
    DR13 -2.78 dB -22.27 dB 3:35 06-I Got It Bad (And That Ain_t Good)
    DR17 -0.32 dB -21.25 dB 4:15 07-I Let A Song Go Out Of My Heart
    DR16 -2.05 dB -23.00 dB 4:12 08-Cotton Tail
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Number of tracks: 8
    Official DR value: DR16
    - Greetings from Tarragona (SPAIN/EU) -

    • @simonzinc-trumpetharris852
      @simonzinc-trumpetharris852 Před 2 měsíci

      Hi res is pointless.

    • @matytinman
      @matytinman Před 2 měsíci

      @@simonzinc-trumpetharris852
      Just now.. Orquestral mass with DR14
      Bruckner - 9 Symphonien (1967) Vinyl: Jochum, SODBR: Symphony No 2
      czcams.com/video/d8KlR392rW0/video.html

  • @gorandjurdjevic4959
    @gorandjurdjevic4959 Před měsícem

    same story with Holo Cayan 2 , connect after Altera fpga and Laiv Dac is .....😂😂😂