How To MegaSquirt Your Fox Body Mustang 5.0 (1986-1993)
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PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
MegaSquirt PNP2 Standalone ECU Tuner Kit by DIYAutotune.com
Add serious tuning potential to your 1986-1993 5.0 Mustang with MegaSquirts Plug and Play Gen 2 standalone ECU. Designed with the DIY tuner in mind to give your Mustang all the options of a custom engine management system at a fraction of the cost. Easy to install and setup, this standalone ECU comes with a 5.0 HO base maps is pre-loaded to help your engine start on the first turn of the key. With an average install time under 1 hour, this unit installs in your stock ECU's place making it as streamlined and simple as possible. Combined with a USB to Serial adapter and a Innovate MTX-L Digital Wideband Air/Fuel Gauge will taking your tuning to the next level!
Tuning At Your Fingertips
TunerStudio brings MegaSquirt 2, tuning software unmatched by any other aftermarket EFI controllers at any price. The free version of TunerStudio MS, known as TunerStudio MS Lite is hands down the leading MegaSquirt software, it allows you to fully set up and tune any MegaSquirt controller with a more refined and simpler interface than all previous options.
Tuning Hardware and Software Note
Use of the provided USB to Serial Adapter is recommended to interface modern laptops with the MegaSquirt PNP2 serial port.
Innovate MTX-L Digital Wideband Air/Fuel Gauge
Easily datalog and remotely tune with this Innovate MTX-L digital wideband air/fuel ratio gauge! This 100% digital gauge is the only one of it's kind on the market. Utilizing award-winning and patented DirectDigital™ technology, this gauge is faster and more accurate than the common "UEGO" gauges. This reduces wiring and simplifies your installation. The wideband O2 sensor is compatible with all types of fuel including leaded, unleaded, diesel, methanol, and E85.
Key Features and Full Control
- Fully Plug and Play Installation - No wiring required for basic functionality.
- 5.0 HO base maps are pre-loaded to help your engine start on the first turn of the key.
- Real-time tuning and data logging with a laptop connection.
- Supports most aftermarket wideband sensors.
- Uses internal MAP sensor - can be used on both cars with factory MAF or speed density.
- Mounts in the stock location - case is specifically designed to use factory mounting points.
Product Notes
- Scalable to popular larger engine sizes.
- Due to the custom nature of this product, please be sure to read all installation manuals provided. Please visit DIY Autotune for more detailed instructions and technical articles.
Applications
- Fits 1986-1993 Ford 5.0L Mustang
This product is intended for off-road use only, and is not legal for use in emission restrictive states.
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Not the megasquirt I was hoping for, but hey, here we are.
CZcams pops up on my phone "how to megasquirt"
Ok
Was checking some megasquirt videos, checked this video by far this is the best video explaining every little details how to dial you megasquirt...
Thank you! We are here to help you get everything you need for your installs!
@@latemodelrestoration hey man I pray to God that you still keep up with this channel I have a 91 F-150 it's not high performance but they've tried to high performance it before I got it had her pipes EGR delete and wanted to do more things but the young kid who had it graduated from high school kids changed his mind fast and they stopped got it to where it would run and it runs good but they've already put so much into it am I going to put a mustang computer o2 sensors by the time I'm done it's going to have a mustang heart and brain the only thing I don't have is the intake and the heads and probably I guess the cam do you think my truck will run okay temporarily if I get this computer setup then in time I'm going to get the heads and intake off of a mustang and put on that truck also re tune from there
@@latemodelrestoration this is part 2 of that same conversation sorry it's a book I'm sorry I have two A9L stock mustang computers I'll need to add wires onto the harness and precisely the right spot along with soldering a junction for the o2 sensor at exactly the right spot to keep me from frying the computer Crap ton a research has been done and it is possible I have the MAF sensor and am almost ready to do the MAP to MAF conversion I just haven't pulled the trigger because now I'm wondering about the flow rates of my exhaust and intake system I know it won't be great but it's temporary any suggestions I don't mind going after market if I can get it to work okay I just want it a little more power and a lot more feel economy
good explained ..i have MS2PNP now for 18 month in my 92 Stroker.. best spent Money for a tuning item .. works great but needs time to learn if you are a newbee..but ok.. best you can do is buying the Registred version (like 70$ extra) with Auto Tune and full Datalog..VE analyze...very helpfull and make your tuning live easy..lots of help also en youtube and MS forums..
Going to use it on my HCI supercharged coupe pretty soon.
Ah...9/32" hold down screw then a 7mm bolt for glovebox. Nothing like working on an American car from the 80s lol.
I know, you take the throttle body off and it's 1/2" then 10mm for the cable brackets...rolls eyes.
At least my John Deere tractor from the 90's uses all metric stuff lol...
Megasquirt....... sounds like fun 😂
Thanks Very helpfull since i just purchase a MS
That is awesome! We are always glad to help!
@@latemodelrestoration hey there
Getting close to 100K subs!!
Can you advise on what you do for the air conditioning, to make it idle up?
All this makes me want to go carburetor lol
Will this allow me to delete the salt and pepper shakers or any other wires to clean up the engine bay????
What about key programming do i need to program my key and Vin number ?
Looks like you did not connect the WB sensor to anything.. You just tucked he plug out of the way. May want to take a second look. Good Tutorial. Thank you Sir.
can yall do how to Megasquirt ms3 for cobra terminators?
I need to put one of these in my 86 crown Victoria
I'm thinking about putting this on my 91 marquis! Need a tune but with the factory mustang gt EEC it has isnt obd smh. I think this might be my fix
Can anybody explain to this noob if this is better than the Holley terminator? I have a 94 sn95 and am really trying to find reasons to build the 5.0. Is the mega squirt even available for my car?
I want this on my 86 tbird but I'm dumb and don't understand wiring lol
u never did TPS set up in the Vid??
When setting initial/fixed timing; is the distributor spout connector installed or removed? I thought it should be installed, but your video shows the spout on top of the radiator. Thanks
Rob,
The spout connector does not need to be removed. We have verified this with DIY Autotune, and they have sent over this link with some other information on adjusting the timing. scroll to "Verifying and Adjusting Base Timing" for a step by step: www.megasquirtpnp.com/docs/mspnp_g2_eec4a8.php?isModel=1
@@latemodelrestoration Thanks, was confused about this as well. Bought the Innovate MTX and MS from you and have it physically installed on the car.
When is LMR going to have tuning available. I would be on that list whenever it is.
Too much liability
I want one.
Someone help please, which vacuume port on the vacuum tree do I route my vacuum line too?
Hi Logan,
Please give us a call at 1-866-507-3786 or email with the link below and one of our CCR's can assist you with that: lmr.com/contact
Im having trouble setting timing, car idles to violently up and down to get a correct reading with the light, do i need to remove spout connector when setting timing?
Give us a call at 1-866-507-3786 or email us using the link below and a CCR can assist you with what's needed for setting the right timing - lmr.com/contact
@@latemodelrestoration thankyou
Can you do a video on how to install a light bar on a 1993 foxbody mustang convertible G.T please thank you
@lmr why won’t my computer detect my ecu when I press detect, keeps saying no controller found
Hey there,
Give us a call at 1-866-507-3786 or email us using the link below and a CCR will be more than happy to assist you with that!! lmr.com/contact
What keeps the wideband wire from pulling out of the connector?
The small terminal end expands halfway down so that it can't pull through the connector. -Landan
Can I buy one for my girlfriend?
Jeff V I was looking for this comment
Do this ECU offer anything for a mild H/C/I car or just stick with the stock ECU?
Out of the box, there is not a calibration for a H/C/I setup. You will have to load the base file for a 5.0L and adjust the parameters accordingly. -Landan
when synchronizing the timing with the MS does the SPOUT connector still need to be removed or does the MS eliminate that step? i have a 95 and I'm very familiar with the MS since it first came out. i hope there is a version available for me should i decide to go this route. thanks LMR
Please go to www.diyautotune.com/ for any tuning or tech-related questions on these setups.
i have a 87 foxbody thunderbirdf that is a sefi 5.0l v8 will it work in it? it is basically a stang yes?
Hi Jeffery,
We have not tested the ECU on other applications, like the Thunderbird. We recommend contacting MegaSquirt and get their input on application before purchasing.
i know this video is olf but there was a msd nob type thing on the driver side what is that?
found it
would this MegaSquirt kit work in a 93 f150 5.0l?
Hey Cody, we have not tested the MegaSquirt kit on a 93 F150 yet. You will need to contact MegaSquirt directly to make sure everything will work with the application.
Wonder if this would work on my 1990 F150... v8 5 speed... im just barely slower than a gt from light 2 light... wanna throw a turbo on there n party...
Soda Pop, this is straight from DIYAutotune(the company that makes the MegaSquirt)
"1986-1993 Ford Mustang 5.0 & 1986-1988 Ford Thunderbird 5.0 with manual or factory automatic transmissions! Easy to Use and Install! (Can be reconfigured for some other EEC-IV (EEC4) equipped cars with internal jumper changes by special order - contact DIYAutoTune for details)"
Can I tune out low rpm low speed bucking that comes from a big cam?
You can tune the engine to it's exact needs, and yes that includes the best driveability and manners possible with a variety of modifications, cam included.
Try adding timing in those bucking areas ... 😉
@@hereinmissoula11 Getting ready to find out...got a fresh 393 with a big cam in my Strawberry notch and have a new MS/Innovate halfway installed.
Could this system work with an 1985 grand marquis 302 tbi?
Thank you for inquiring about our products. While many of the products we sell may fit other Ford-powered vehicles, we solely specialize in 1979 to current Mustangs and SVT Lightning.
To best answer questions about non 79 to current Mustangs and SVT Lightning, we would suggest you try internet forums specific to your vehicle or even some internet searching. We believe heavily in customer service and would hate to give you incorrect information due to us not being experts for your vehicle.
Related, I hope this works with 88 Tbirds.
@Rico Cantrell welcome to the tbird club I'm thinking about this
You know you're in trouble when the instructions start with: "First, disassemble half your Mustang..." Did you see the size of that instruction manual? The sheer size of that binder could give someone a concussion!! It looks like the Pentagon's twenty six page brownie recipe, except a lot longer.
if you're one of those ADD people not willing to spend a MONTH getting this installed, I recommend having a professional do this for you...
Do they have these for the gen 1 lightning ⚡️
Hey Matthew, we do not currently offer the Megasquirt for the Gen 1 Lightning
Any idea if i can run this ecu on a 2.3 turbo off the svo
The MegaSquirt technically will work on the SVO but some alterations need to be made. The air charge temp sensor placement is different for one. Contacting MegaSquirt to verify fitment for the SVO would be the best option.
@@latemodelrestoration is there a link you guys could provide to contact megasquirt I've been trying to find their contact info but had no luck
The company that makes the MegaSquirt is DIYAutotune. I dont have any direct contact info or I would absolutely provide it!
Do they make these for the 94-95 guys?
Yes they do. Here's a link: lmr.com/products/94-04-Mustang-Tuners-Programmers#12741
Can we have this ecu for ford 3.0 liter v6
The ECU in the video is specifically for the 86-93 Fox Mustangs. There are other Megasquirt ECUs available, but we don't offer them. I'd reach out to the manufacturer directly. -Landan
www.diyautotune.com/
Do they make this for a 95 GT?
Yes they do! Here's a link to our site! - lmr.com/products/94-04-Mustang-Tuners-Programmers
Uploads video featuring product to buy. Only has 3 in stock.
We checked inventory. We have plenty in stock and ready to ship. You may have checked on a day before our restocking order showed up.
Is it compatible to a 347 stroker
Every motor...but not that one ...sorry bruh...
Yes, 100%
So I'm guessing that a simple bolt on 5.0 doesn't need this?
Yes, this could benefit you in the long run and it would be able to let you grow in the future for any additional add on's.
Can I use this to do my maf conversion ?? On my 87 5.0 ? And not have to buy a 88-93 pcm ??
If you were to install the MegaSquirt ECU, a MAF conversion would not be required. If you want to retain MAF and install a standalone ECU, then you should consider a system from Pro-M. The Pro-M stuff is substantially more expensive, but you do get everything you need to complete the install. Let me know if you have any questions. -Landan
Pro-M ECUs: lmr.com/products/79-93-Mustang-Computers-Controls
Not to mention the time saved setting up and driving the vehicle.
The shop who does "tuning" gets anywhere from $250-$1000 ranging from a simple retune to a complete tune.
If you were to change heads guess what? Pay for retune.
Change intake? Pay for retune.
And on and on.
You can still connect a maf to these systems if you want to use one.
Or you can learn and tune your own car ... 🙄💡🧠
What's your time worth? And how far do you care to learn about every aspect of ecm operations? Just to get it to idle....
Will it work on a 93 f150 5.0
Hi Patric,
We have not tested this ECU on the F-150 5.0. You will have to contact MegaSquirt directly for more information when it comes to compatibility: megasquirt.info/
Can you please tell me the size of the wheels on that car!
Jonathan, that car is running our series 3 wheels, the front is a 265/35R18 on an 18x9 and the rear is a 285/35R18 on an 18x10! Some modifications may need to be done to clear these on a fox. You will need to roll fender lips and remove quad shocks and tail pipe modification may need to be done depending on your setup and you will need an SN95 5 lug conversion and steering rack limiters upfront.
@@latemodelrestoration thank you.. I am trying to decide between the 17" or 18"....tough call but sometimes the 18s look a bit big for me
Its a tough choice to make for sure, I like them both!
@@latemodelrestoration so nice of you to reply! :)
Will this ecu work with a 351w
In a Fox Mustang, yes. You'll just have to change the displacement and adjust the parameters according to your setup. -Landan
@@latemodelrestoration thanks as I’ve been contemplating the swap for a while. This information just further enticed me to do the swap.
How much more horse power is it putting out
Unfortunately, we never dyno'd the car again after the Megasquirt install. -Landan
Could you for sure feel a difference when driving it
@@levicoleman7723 The car felt stronger after dialing in the fuel and timing tables. -Landan
Hi FRIEND. Anyone who knows the ANSWER can help. i happen to have a Volvo 940.1994 regina model B230 engine. I measure only the crank sensor while it is installed and cranking.I read between 100-120mv. But i can find any ready in my trigger logger of rpm nothing.the firmware sas MS2 3.4.1 trigger pattern is 44-2-2 preset in microsquirt, do you have any ideas what to do? i have no spark either. the sensor has 3 wire. red/blue/bleack seems to be the shield. red and blue reads 196.6 ohm .three weeks trying to find the answer. there are many gues. Pls help. regards
So this won't work on a 93 2.3l
Michael - Great question! We market this ECU for 5.0L Fox Mustangs and do not have experience with this ECU controlling a 2.3L engine. I would recommend contacting the manufacturer of the ECU for more information. Thanks! -Landan
The body panels started in 1979. Why does “Fox body” start in 1986?
I had a 1985 GT which was the last year for the Holley carb. Does that have something to do with it?
EDIT: Never mind..... I just found the video, “What is a Fox body Mustang?”
This has nothing to do with body panels. this is for factory EFI 5.0 cars. The Mustang didn't get factory multiport fuel injection for the 5.0 V8 until 1986, NOT 1979. Might help if you actually watched the video. This isn't meant to be a documentary on the Fox body Mustang.
Foxbodys were produced from 1978 Fairmont to 1993 Mustang...
This is proof to me that when I failed in school all those years ago because of reading comprehension it wasn’t just because I wasn’t paying attention. I’m interested in being able to tune my car and this entire video just went so far over my head.
Steven, DIYAUTOTUNE is here to help on any setup or tuning issues that may come up. www.diyautotune.com/
Anybody using TwEECer RT?
I am. Have been since about 2004.
Waiting on 4.6 ECU...
99-04 soft release (to dealers only) last week, retail release later this week.
And... it's been released!
www.diyautotune.com/product/99-04-v8-mustang-gt/
What about us 96-98 guys😒
1985 CFI 302?
These will only work on the 86-93 EFI applications only.
@@latemodelrestoration Do I have any options if I want to keep my CFI unit? I have a 2bbl to 4bbl adaptor plate sitting between my Edelbrock Air-Gap intake manifold and my CFI, but the car won't run. Everything else is stock. AFR 165 heads are planned next.
@@latemodelrestoration 5.0 only, correct?
Correct.
Pro m efi makes a direct fit for your car.
This makes want to just throw a carburetor on it.
Who doesn’t like Foxbody Mustangs lol
Anyone selling their 1989 5.0 speed EEC email me.
Yes i need one too.
Lol seems like they're all failing. My 93 went bad ( water corrosion at pcm connector) and my cousins lost the fuel pump command. Then he seen a neighbor who had 2 fox bodys so he asked him if he had any, he said he needs one too!
@@dom_not_torretotedesco5707 lol mine went all wacky , no fuel pump then it would stay on , then wouldn't start , starter solenoid kept burning out , drove me nuts for a year , re wired everything , ecu was entire issue lol 😂 so I got 2 extras now
I was interested until you said Speed Density. I will stick with the Tweecer RT and EEC analyzer.
Speed density is better for boost that's why it uses it over mass air
Forget everything you know about screwing with the factory SD systems... this is another animal, and far superior in capability to dial in any fox from mild to wild.
@Richard Skipper lol a guess vs knowing. MAF wins every time in the knowing category.
Both work, and Megasquirt can use both calculation methods. The best part is that you can use just about any maf. I have a newer GT500 maf in a fox body connected to megasquirt in a standard 3" tube that works great. My other megasquirt fox is speed density and also works fine. Just two different means to an end.
HOLLEY AND DONE. And ProM can get bent. They definitely aren’t the same as they were in the 90s.
I don’t like pro m either
Buy the pimpxs much better based on ms3 sequential injection can do cop and much more and better customer service
I'm only halfway through this video, what a nuisance this is! Wow!
Wayyyy to complicated. LMR, stick with the Pro M Efi. Sure Ms is less expensive but for start up and future tuning, nothing is better. You guys proved it on your On3 turbo install.
Landon keep up the great videos!
@T Web there's a lot of quality that goes into the system and a lot of people smarter than me know the in and outs. Did Snow performance close up shop when Matt Snow stepped down? Nope.
The quality is excellent and the system is extremely user friendly and that makes it more popular everyday. If Chris Richards-the owner, steps down, I'm sure the pro m will be around for a long time.
Order one and find out for yourself 😁 or spend days on end trying to figure out the mega squirt and Holley. I can go from a stock 302 to a blown 408 with absolutely no Dyno or tuner whatsoever.
I agree with you 100 %. Pro m efi is the way to go.
The megasquirt guys have the most knowledgeable and competent tech support... there’s countless forums and tuning tips all over the place... any tuning software is gonna be complicated if you’re doing it yourself...
Absolutely agree. But with the pro m, you don't have to go searching for countless forums for the information you need.
If you can follow the directions, you can have your car running and driving very quickly. Usually within the hour.
1 hour is about what this takes, less if you're good. This video is awesome, and goes into detail and extra steps in the name of helping anyone be able to be successful, but some of those steps are not needed if you know your way around your car. I've never removed the airbox to run the vacuum line for example... though it is tight up in there it's doable. That said, it's hard to make a video that perfectly meets everyone where they are at, and LMR did a great job I think!