Romans 14 & Halloween, Christmas, Easter, Birthdays - Ask Pastor Tim
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 2. 08. 2024
- How should we as Christians recognize (or not recognize) the holidays that are observed by the world? How should we view other Christians who hold a different view or take a different approach than we do on these matters?
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My husband and I stopped Halloween because it is directly demonic and I donât want to open any doors. The other holidays can have a Christian focus, if you choose to do everything to Godâs glory. Even birthdays, for God giving us another year to serve Him and grow. Same for anniversaries, I praise God for my marriage and my husband is my biggest earthly blessing. This is what is correct according to my conscience that I continue to train using the Bible. I wouldnât bind that on someone else, but I am willing to explain to anyone who asks why. Itâs kind of a, âwhen you know to do better, do betterâ kind of thing.
Amen I have always despised Halloween. Even as a child I thought this feels evil. In spite of all of it we teach our children all year "Don't take candy from strangers", "Stay off peoples property", "Be kind to others" as kids are yelling awful things like trick or treat. Then we let them have all these restrictions go out the window.
Halloween in the sense that kids dress up as their favorite characters and ask for candy is what it is to me, I will always practice it that way.
Unworthy Servant I know. Again, donât celebrate it like that. Never will.
hahaha... which demon... ? hahaha
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That point of "who cares how we bring people to Christ" did not really set well for me. When you say something like that you have to extend this logic to other things. Imagine "I dress like a drag" to go hand out tracks during pride parade. Go ahead and bring people to Christ but you don't have to blend in and do it wordly way. You can witness to people without candy on Halloween. While some may have pure motives in all of this, knowing that unbelievers will certainly say to themselves "oh, they approve me dressing like a Dracula on Halloween- they gave me candy and on top of it said Jesus loves me" - I don't know how can one not see a problem with this. Honestly here is that these kids are exposed to demonic influence through dressing up and engaging in pagan practices with demonic origins (however innocent they look) and the best thing to would be to tell them and their parents that this is not good for their soul, they need to repent and turn to Jesus for help and His love. Sorry for my strong conviction
I agree!
Well said!
This comment really caught my attention. I'm with you on this. Praise God for your strong conviction. and I believe that you dont have to say sorry for that.
Hardly... the analogy would be that if there was a gay pride marathon in town and your church decides to go to that parade to hand out tracts and water--the church I attended in Chicago did that. On that night kids would be knocking at your door uninvited anyways. Well, since Providence has delivered them to your door, why not give them a tract? You could have considered giving them just the tract without candy and then explaining why you believe Halloween is wrong, but I see no harm if there were a few pieces of candy with it to make the little kids glad. Why should the devil have a monopoly on the candy? God is the one who created the sugar cane and all the plants that made the candy in the first place!
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Thank you for this encouragement! It confirmed something the Lord has shown me in the recent past, where i was 'standing my ground' with family members over estate settlement...i was SO sure that I was the one of strongest faith in the family. Obviously my pride caused a huge fall for me- i was shown that i was 'caring more about honoring the family heritage & legacy, & the wishes of our deceased Mom than i was taking a stand for the Lord...'
My own idolatry (of my parents
& siblings) led to a long & painful journey into what real sanctification is all about! So this topic reaches far beyond 'opinions' about holidays!
Praise the Lord, who knows & sees our heartâŁ
Your right! I watched videos on the holidays and immediately stopped celebrating them! As a Christian, it shocked me! đČ the verses are in the Bible to not follow the pagans.
@Laureen Mwangi Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
I don't understand this message by Tim..If your celebrating something the Bible clearly states is against Biblical teaching....it doesn't make you a " strong" Christian, if you practice it.... obedience to God word makes you strong..
Pastor Tim I really thank God for this.
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Brief answer. Be blessed.
Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
Iâm glad Pastor Tim is answering this question because this is something that Iâve been wondering about for a while.
Me too. It's like the unforgivable sin subject. Glad I know the answer to both now. Tim is a wise teacher
I don't think I agree with this Pastor's views on the pagan origins of holidays, but I really appreciated his attitude in accordance with Romans 14. He really captured and summarized the essence of the issue. Props. On a side note, please do research the pagan origins issue. You may discover as I did that Easter is not the name of a Saxon goddess, and Christmas is not a repurposed Saturnalia festival. You might even discover that Halloween is not linked to Samhain in any way, and that we don't actually know anything about Samhain because the Celts didn't keep records of their religious beliefs.. But all that said, this pastor is correct. Conscience toward God is what matters, and thus we need to be very careful about our judgments.
I canât believe what Iâm hearing. No you absolutely should NOT do that! By participating in the demonic high day you are showing them that you think itâs ok. There is nothing about that day that honors The Father. I know youâve read Deuteronomy 12 â...that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, âHow did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.â 31You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way; for every abomination to the Lord which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods.â
I was shocked by this, too. The church is in big trouble. Zero discernment in the end times.
Participating in Halloween by dressing up and asking for candy is not demonic or pagan, thatâs the Iâve always practiced it and thatâs the way I will teach my children as well. Please, prove me wrong.
@@tythompson4794 look up John Ramirez. I met him personally while attending Times Square Church. He is a former warlock satanist and now Christian. czcams.com/video/AQg9aAYrcbM/video.html
macolyis no question. Iâm aware of the roots of it. But like I said, thatâs not the understanding or the reason I celebrate it. I just wanted free candy. Nothing more nothing less.
macolyis I donât see it that way, Iâm not idolizing anything. I thank you for taking the time to talk to me and I will be more careful concerning things like that. The serpent is subtle but he is in everything we do. We be careful. I will proceed this Halloween with caution.
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Good Intro
Look let us not lie to each other. And we all agree we celebrate all these before we accepted Jesus. Now we accepted Him, we still love to celebrate it, am i right? We do. Just last year i was visited by Jesus , Dec 19 if i still remember. When He told me "where are my generals? The army is ready, but where are they?" And i said "they are preparing to celebrate christmas".. then i messaged my friend and telling them that something is going to happen which i dont even know. And from what i understood with God, He was not even concerned about christmas, and He was even asking where are His children? What is going on? Then when COVID came, Jesus came to me again, teaching me all His words from old testament to new.. i was shocked that Jesus is the speaker in the entire old testament.. my goodness.
Now HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD. HE WHO HAS EYES AND EARS, LET THE LORD YAWEH YESHUA REVEAL IT
"Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good."
Oh you children of God, during Halloween, xmas, new year and every satanic holiday where the occults do their rituals even until now, when do you say "PRAISE JESUS!!!!" during these days!? Do not lie, for you all lie to the Lord. You never did and the same for me also! If you want to celebrate, do it in the presence of the Lord, according to thr scriptures. Do not follow the ways of the heathen for i did, and i suffered from it before Yeshua decided to save me!
But the only one who can make you not do all these is Jesus. Because i celebrate these things, even if i know in my conscience it is wrong, even before accepting Jesus. Just pray to Yaweh to guide you and take control of you
A bit muddled to begin with but he did a really good job of addressing the reason why I left Grace Fellowship Manchester (the church he is addressing). No-one was expressing strong opinions on issues and it was getting very very Liberal. The last half of the video was very well expressed. He hits the nail on the head. If I was still in Manchester I would return to the church. Hope he brings the street preaching back to Manchester UK. I dothink the underlying issue in the chrch was the lack of strong individual convictions, or at least the expression of them.
This surely applies to tithing as well right?
Thank yoy for covering this pastor can you or anyone tell me is its mentioned in the bible that zechariah is john the baptists father im new in Christ i had a conversation with my daughter who converted to islam 10years ago she says its mentioned in the Qu' ran ...but is it in the bible?
Yes... look at the Gospel of Luke, 1st chapter. He is called Zacharias in the Greek which is the same as Zechariah in Hebrew.
@@kb27787 thank you
đObserving holidays for celebrations is not a Christian belief.
Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
The reason why we saved people argue a lot (not christians, Jesus didn't say you must be a christian to be saved. Jesus didn't came down to start christianity, but to finish what He already started), it is because we argue things from our own knowledge, not from thr Holy Spirit. Tell me, of we all pray and seek God for answers, are we going to celebrate Halloween and christmas? I DON'T THINK DO
look, Jesus said everything that we dont do by faith is a sin. Even if we celebrate passover without faith in God is A SIN. if a person celebrated innocently Christmas praising God and shouting "praise Jesus!!!!!", then he is innocent. But if we celebrate Christmas and pagan holidays knowing it is wrong, then we are sinning against Jesus!
I wonder why we don't just celebrate God's holy days the Biblical feasts in the Word they have a Biblical base and reason why they are celebrated.
We forget about the Spiritual world we live in. Lots of Spiritual activities occur on these holidays. But I mean to each their own.
But in 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 we have
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
I don't believe that Romans 14 allows to participate in halloween or christmass or easter because it is against 2 Cor 6:14-18.
Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
Hi Pastor. You said there are some things in the bible the it is not so clear. Mentioned around 6:50-7:12. May i know what it is? Because when Jesus taught me how to read bible, there was not a single thing which is unclear. I even learned how to start a business just by reading the bible.
Tell me. Do not say things which the Holy Spirit doesn't say. You are a saved man by God so talk with THE HOLY SPIRIT. You speak in the knowledge gained by your understanding. Speak in the power of the Holy Spirit.
Now tell me, what is unclear?
Many people seem to associate modern Halloween with three things: The old Celtic New Yearâs celebration of Samhain (in asserting that most of Halloweenâs customs can be traced to Samhain celebrations); Satanism (asserting that Halloweenâs origins are Satanic as evidenced by the many Satanists who use this day to promote their beliefs); and All Saints Day (asserting that the early church established the holiday to âChristianizeâ Samhain). Upon a more critical examination however, these associations are more wishful thinking than actual fact.
Modern Halloween as we know it today is just that - a modernly invented âholidayâ combining elements of an earlier American tradition called âHell Nightâ, along with a healthy dose of good old âHollywoodâ thrown in for good measure. Virtually _all_ American customs associated with Halloween originated right around the 1920âs - 1930âs or so. While there are some vestigial elements from pre-Christian religions in some of the customs (bobbing for apples for example), the modern costumes, the blood, the gore, the reveling in death and destruction, the candy, even âtrick or treatâ itself, dates no earlier than 1900âs America. In short, itâs a relatively new phenomenon and represents a mix of cultures, capitalism, and accommodation.
Again, all three holidays, Halloween, All Saintâs Day, and Samhain share a common date and perhaps a âfeelingâ, but thatâs really about it. Modern Halloween is no more âpaganâ than Labor Day or Columbus Day. Indeed, so much of Halloween âfeelsâ pagan that attempts to connect those things to ancient Samhain and Satanism simply âfeels rightâ.
Samhain/Halloween is to some people a very spiritual and magickal time of the year; for some itâs a time of fun and candy, perhaps a way to celebrate Fall in general. Still for others, perhaps a time to contemplate their own mortality since the modern holiday mocks death. Some perhaps are not quite sure what to make of it and prefer to steer clear of it, but however you wish to celebrate itâŠ.or not - Halloween, in and of itself, is only âevilâ if one chooses to make it so.
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Yes, but the purpose of all that is to mock death and evil. For Christians ("Christians" in a broad sense of the term), poking fun at that evil with the idea that, as a Christian, the Devil holds no power over a 'believer'. It is also a way to remind us of our own mortality and (for at least once a year) play on the fears of man with respect to death.
It is only evil if you choose to make it evil.
I can make a birthday cake and wish a happy day to a struggling, but overcoming through Christ, addict and glorify God. I don't think I can encourage Halloween and glorify God, even if I try t downplay the worldly meaning. The Christmas argument is lost on me, because I don't do the tree anymore. I certainly don't judge others over it though. If I did, I'd have to leave my church body.
Not sure Halloween is pagan in origin. Also, not sure there's anything wrong with just enjoying a holiday for fun. Just like game night is for fun, or Thanksgiving can be for enjoying family. Doesn't need to have its "original" meaning (which usually isn't want people claim it is anyway).
@@user-tb3sj1hv9c Why not? They celebrated other man-made holidays. You seem to be assuming waayyy too much -- you're begging the question.
Yes, you should be very carefulâŠ..a Holy God has revealed his views on Holiness and separation very clearly through scripture. Problem is, the âchurchâ has been compromised and we no longer take sin, Holiness and separation (set apart) as serious as the Lord does.
We quit Christmas when I found in the bible ( ot ) that pagans would bring a tree inside and decorate it. That was it. Halloween has been out the window for me for years including trunk or treat. I don't celebrate Easter but instead , ressurection day. Birthdays and anniversaries i can't see anything wrong with just like Thanksgiving and weddings and their receptions. Halloween is the big day for witches snd satanists. Horrible things are done on that night in secret. Its fun to dress up in costumes as long as they are not evil, maybe church could have costume parties in the gym for the hours leading up to praying in the New year. Or sometime in March just for fun in the gym. I would never tell my child all the Santa Claus stuff or Easter bunny or tooth fairy lies because its lying to them and then the kids wont trust you about the reality of the Lord later on once they think about it. I have been known to put Halloween tracts in stores and books stores etc for secular kids to find. I once celebrated all of those holidays. I was really into halloween. God forgive me, im ashamed. If kids need candy, buy them some. We give gifts for birthdays instead of Christmas .
Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
You know that's your personal conviction ,therefore don't judge other believers who don't get convicted by it .
On Sunday April 4th 2021 Easter I'll be worshiping the Lord while you Pharisees will be worshipping the Sun. It's the day of the sun isn't it?
Halloween on paper should be about kids dressing up as their favorite characters and asking for candy, none of that demonic crap. The rest of the holidays are fine.
Christmas-celebrate Jesusâs birth and enjoy family with presents
Halloween-already mentioned
Birthdays-celebrate the day of your birth
Valentineâs Day-spend some time and/or buy things for a loved one.
Those are my beliefs, and they always will be. Much love and prayers Friends, god bless.
Iâm assuming Easter is a given for this list...
49jubilee what?
PROPERTY of ELOHIM Beatrice. I know, I understand, I just donât see how a kid dressing up as....letâs say darth vader and asking for candy is demonic. Sorry, I canât.
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Look into John Ramirez channel you'll see how the enemy is able to creep into Christians lives. Those Holidays are pagan days. â„ïžđ
PROPERTY of ELOHIM Beatrice I couldnât agree more. I just donât celebrate those holidays like that. I see Christmas for example as a day where we get presents. Nothing note nothing less. I hope that makes sense.
Unworthy Servant I donât know, wasnât around back then. No mention of it in the Bible so we canât know for a fact. đ
All holidays iĆ not from YHWH, we most co out babylon! Not easy No ,it is the small wayđđ€Čđđđ€đonly remember the shabbat exodus 20
Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
The 31st of October should be a celebration for the reformation, not Halloween.
Birthdays are biblical. Jesus was at a birthday party. And marriages. But Christ mass isn't Christian. Or good. It's supposed to be about the birth but it's nowhere near
Tim you must correct this. You can not eat from the table of demons and the table of God. You do not get to say "I eat from the table of demons for God's glory!" We are told to stop mixing with the unclean! To stop putting the traditions of man above the will of God! Will people dislike us because of this? Of course! But we are not to be loved by the world, but to be set apart from the world. I pray you understand I speak so firmly because I see my brothers and sisters I love in danger!
You people that think we're honoring Ishtar on Easter better stop using the days of the week. Do you honor woden on Wednesday Thor on Thursday the sun on Sunday the moon on Monday. Let's not get into the months. Lighten up. Honor God in everything.
We donât have a choice with the days and months as itâs the only way to get us through. However, with Christmas, Halloween, Easter, you have a choice.
Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
These are jewish feasts.
It's not about other people's opinions but obeying the teachings of Jesus which is the teachings from Jesus to the apostles by the Holy Spirit, which is God's Word. Acts 2:42. 2sd Timothy 3:16-17. The leadership of an assembly should lead according to God's Word. God will judge individuals when He comes back. Romans 14. We are to love in Spirit and truth. When a person is truly born again they will know it dishonors the Lord to celebrate holloween etc. We are commanded to do two things after we are saved. 1, be baptized. 2, celebrate the Lords table as we know it. We are not told to remember His birth. We need Godly leadership in the assembly. Titus 1:5-7 able to instruct God's people. Personal opinions today is why the body of believers is in the state it's in today. God's word is a closed book. Get back to God's word and such questions would not be asked. Is it ok to celebrate holloween?.
Well, though I agree with Pastor Tim here--let it be a matter of conscience, by the comments it seems there are many in the Church who would stumble if we let our kids go trick-or-treating etc. so I guess let's not do that. There was a time when eating meat would be associating with demons as well (since it was sacrificed to idols) and so we are instructed to just ask no questions and eat. But if someone mentions idols, then don't eat it for conscience's sake. I believe the same principle applies. Whatever Easter, Christmas and Halloween were in the past, that meaning has now been pretty much lost nowadays. It is just egg and jellybean day, presents and stuffing yourself out day, and candy and costume day. So go ahead and eat the Halloween candy you were given by that coworker there, but if someone sees it, then let's not eat it.
Meat eating was not the issue. Eating meat from the alter of an idol was. But if it did not seem an issue for one to buy the cheaper meat and eat it without his conscience being bothered it was ok as long as he did not eat it in front if a Christian who felt it was wrong and in so doing yo make him stumble. That's what I understood the bible to say.
I don't really understand Tim's position on Halloween. But I feel like he says it's ok to celebrate it which makes me extremely disappointed. I mean he doesn't do it himself but he doesn't forbid it. He is one if my favourite preachers.
I feel like the church today is soooooo childish, asking completely retarded questions. We will hear questions like "Is premarital sex ok?" in the future.
No wonder, we drink only milk, the sheep are starving.
i don't think you are a pastor,you don't realize how wrong you are.
also if you are a pastor you should know what responsibility you have when you open your mouth...you will be judge for your false teachings,you confuse people..
you speak about the weak in spirit?
you should have a strong doctrine to harden that weak spirit not to allow sin to happen..
i suggest to research more about the subject..
you know that in the beginning the protestant churches didn't celebrate christmas,haloween,easter because they say they are from the devil???
old nick -you know who is it???...and so on
Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
@@cowpokejohnny3419 if you want to keep the sabbath keep it, but you have to know ,when you do this you are under the old low the Blood of Jesus is useless for you..if you keep one low you have to keep all . Sacrifices and all that is included.
@@yoperau9823 I don't keep the Sabbath ,stop assuming things about me ,did you not see my comment on top I put that specific comment because people are judging people for celebrating holidays .There's a few of verses that talk about this specific thing .
Accept other believers who are weak in faith, and donât argue with them about what they think is right or wrong. For instance, one person believes itâs all right to eat anything. But another believer with a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who donât. And those who donât eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them. Who are you to condemn someone elseâs servants? Their own master will judge whether they stand or fall. And with the Lordâs help, they will stand and receive his approval.
In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable. Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him. Those who eat any kind of food do so to honor the Lord, since they give thanks to God before eating. And those who refuse to eat certain foods also want to please the Lord and give thanks to God. For we donât live for ourselves or die for ourselves. If we live, itâs to honor the Lord. And if we die, itâs to honor the Lord. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. Christ died and rose again for this very purpose-to be Lord both of the living and of the dead.
So why do you condemn another believer? Why do you look down on another believer? Remember, we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. For the Scriptures say,
ââAs surely as I live,â says the Lord,
âevery knee will bend to me,
and every tongue will confess and give praise to God.ââ
Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God. So letâs stop condemning each other. Decide instead to live in such a way that you will not cause another believer to stumble and fall.
I know and am convinced on the authority of the Lord Jesus that no food, in and of itself, is wrong to eat. But if someone believes it is wrong, then for that person it is wrong. And if another believer is distressed by what you eat, you are not acting in love if you eat it. Donât let your eating ruin someone for whom Christ died. Then you will not be criticized for doing something you believe is good. For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of what we eat or drink, but of living a life of goodness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. If you serve Christ with this attitude, you will please God, and others will approve of you, too. So then, let us aim for harmony in the church and try to build each other up.
Donât tear apart the work of God over what you eat. Remember, all foods are acceptable, but it is wrong to eat something if it makes another person stumble. It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else if it might cause another believer to stumble. You may believe thereâs nothing wrong with what you are doing, but keep it between yourself and God. Blessed are those who donât feel guilty for doing something they have decided is right. But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning. - Romans 14
If you don't celebrate Christmas,or Easter that's ok just don't condemn others for doing so .
Epic fail. You lost credibility on this. Bereans know better.
@@humilityiswisdom23 Colossians 2:16, NIV: "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day."
@@humilityiswisdom23 Stop using the term lukewarm out of context you hypocrite .
@@humilityiswisdom23 alright Satan have a nice day as well đ.