TEKKEN 8 - Mishima Dojo | How to do an Electric Wind God Fist (Pad/Stick)
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- Tutorial I put together on what the electric is, why its such a strong move and how to perform it on pad and stick. Had a few comments in some of the combo videos of people asking what is the electric so I made this video for it!
If anyone has any questions just leave a comment and I will respond to you!
Just to clarify the fastest launcher in the game is yoshis flash which I forgot about (I dont know how i forgot cause its cheap af) but it is limted as its range is very bad!
Flash is also -15 with no range, so if people follow your video its full launch on a block or whiff!
I'm practising Reina and this video helps!
Flash is i6-9 I believe
@@roadman_abz488 When he goes into one of his stances it is a bit slower I think but has a tiny bit more range or something like that isnt it? It's 6 frames outside of the stance I think
I dont think flash is a launcher anymore, it might just be me but i cant get more than a 14 frame move off of it.
See this is how Yoshi keeps getting away with it. The move is so forgettable for being as good as it is.
Something I noticed as a pad player regarding timing for electrics, if you tap forward on the d-pad, and immediately press 2 afterward, it usually lines up perfectly for when your thumb slides to down-forward.
Wait what do you mean
@@ZenkaiwavI think he means that when you press forward, instead of focusing on inputting the sliding motion for the down forward, try to focus pressing 2 first instead. The reason I think that's what he means is that people often comment that the ewgf seems easier when you try to imagine yourself pushing 2 before the down forward input instead of in the middle of it
Good tip, also putting on command history to see if you are doing the 2 to late or to early helps!
I’m going to have to try that in the lab. Thank you for the tip
Dude thank you. I read this and immediately got it off like 3 times in quick succession. It’s still hard but this def gave me the muscle memory I needed
Finally someone who slows it
Down and shows the actual controllers inputs
Thank you
Yeah I feel that helps a lot, it always does for me when I'm learning new stuff!
I’ve tried that too. It’s tricky ngl
Bro just change the playback speed to 0.5x. You can do this to any YT video.
The electric effects looks so beautiful in 8.
I know you can tell they had a much higher budget for this game and really put a lot into the visual effects!
Yeah its so cool, it makes me feel like its black flash (the mechanics of it is kinda similar too)
oh yeah absolutely!@@kamish6738
I personally prefer the electric effects in 7. It's one of those situations for me where "less is more."
@@RickyRank i get what u mean. It looks more simple and realistic in 7
I’m kinda glad that even pros can’t execute these moves perfectly.
that isnt very comforting if pros cant do it i have no hope
@@mxsayian no, it means they’re not even perfect so you don’t really have to EWGF all the time.
But they can they tho they insane
This is such a great video. I got back into Tekken with 8 after not playing much since Tekken 5 on the PSP years ago (i dabbled with 6 and 7 but not much) and I've been having a blast with Reina, but i couldn't for the life of me figure out why I couldn't hit the electric. Didn't realize the df+2 needed to be hit at the same time, so now i know what i was doing wrong. Appreciate it my dude.
Glad to see you are back playing tekken after a long break!
appreciate it brother, i was having a little trouble with WGF and EWGF. you cleared my doubts
Glad it helped!
Easily the best breakdown video for this move. This is extremely helpful for a new player like me who wants to main Kaz/Jin
Glad I could help!
Play both
Amazing video, learning the sliding motion on pad helped a lot!
Thank you!
nice tutorial i am about to put it into practice thank you very much!
Appreciate the vid, been enjoying Tekken 8 more than previous titles, want to actually learn this now
Glad you liked it!
Just got my first fight stick so I’m definitely studying this as my homework. Such clear explanations you’re goated 🙏🏻🫡
@czcams.com/users/iALcHeMiisTx Welcome to the club. Be patient and go slow with your movements at the start to build up the muscle memory!
Great video i was immediately able to get it with your demonstration 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Glad it helped!
This is great. I been trying to figure out to do this without using the easy mode
Excellent visual to audio connections. Super easy to understand why this move is so great and how to use it
Thank you :)
The moment I started getting the input in practice regularly, I was so happy like a kid lol. Gonna start throwing games and using it randomly just to get it everytime
I'll never forget when I got it down to, I was so happy!
amazing guide, thanks❤
Great tutorial! As a new player here, it will be fun to practice this for using Devil Jin! :D
Glad it helped :)
Jin kazama is the goat character
@@Hehdhdi6778kaz all day
Thanks I’ve been struggling with this move
Returning playing Tekken since 2 on the PS, my hands are not good as I was before, but this game is so fun that I'm practicing, I'll leave this for last until I can master the combo guide on practice mode :)
Someday I'll be able to do this beautiful staple move of Tekken on command. I wanna do this before I die.
Appreciate it 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Its almost like playing a piano and hitting the notes perfectly with the rest of the band. Once you find that pocket, youll never forget it!
@czcams.com/users/gdotwiz This is a great way of describing it!
Thnks bro so helpful😊
I need help getting used to hitting electrics on the right side as a controller dpad player
Mapping 2+3 to L2 has always helped my consistency for electrics. Something about the input for df & 2 being on the same hand works for me. It doesn’t force heat when you do it. Also note that if your character has a d2 or d2+3 input. It could cause issues.
The reason why that is; it is easy to coordinate movement with the same hand.
Tryin this fahsho
can i ask how does heat doesnt proc when u tap L2?
@@rudeus4990 you'll have to use heat before that method works
btw for anyone here on a console, just go to accessibility and map forward/back to a different button. Easy electrics after that ;)
Thank you for the video and slowed down input. May i ask, are you using Triangle on the dpad or back padels? can't quite tell from this
@czcams.com/users/TheRustaclut0 I am using triangle on the d pad. Some people also map triangle to the L1 button as they feel it helps when everything is done on one hand so you can try that to and see which one works best!
Personally. I found that if I prepare to hit 2 when I go down, it increases my accuracy (on stick). I am still practicing thanks for the tutorial.
Thanks for watching!
I do Forward... neutral..... then DF+2
In between neutral i just kinda flicker.
Try this u might luv it
Nice guide
Thanks for watching!
I find that timing the button press is really awkward. On pad, I notice that it seems inconsistent on whether I press earlier or later in the crouch dash (i.e., getting electric and the normal wgf on seemingly the exact same timing). Any recommendations on finding a consistent method for timing the press?
Wonderful demonstration, btw.
It's kind of just a matter of practicing the timing, I remember when I first started to do it I thought I'd never be able to do it consistently and that was when I played on pad but I just got better and better! Some people find it easier to time the electric if they map the triangle button to R1 on their controller! I press the 2 button just after I start the sliding motion on pad if that helps at all
Turn on your command history and pay attention to the input frames.
On arcade stick, there's a df angle which allows registers down for 1f before df so the way forward would be to find that angle and practice your electrics from there.
On pad that same angle might exist on the D-Pad(definitely does on the analogue), so you pay attention to the command list and see what way positioning your fingers to do electrics brings the most consistency for you... If you're lucky, it will also be the fastest way you can do it(i.e not the actual fastest way in terms of perfect input, but good enough).
What's the background theme?
thanks for the vid, i almost drop reina but your vid give me hope🤣
Glad it helped!
I use the analog sticks on xbox and the faster movements are easier in my opinion than dpad once you hit the lab and find exactly where you start and end your quarter circle forward
It was the same for me until I forced myself to use d-pad, I do way less mistakes when I use d-pad but thats just me
I prefer analog stick too. But for particular reason other then the fact i find the dpad very awkward to use at least on an Xbox controller. It also feels way more fluid and fun to use then the dpad for me. Arcades often use joysticks so even if dpad is better ill just use that fact as cope
IMO once you get how it's done, it's much harder to maintain consistency on pad/controller than it is on stick. i.e. you are still gonna fail more on controller than on stick. And if you're on controller, be ready to get a few blisters especially if the D-pad on your controller is still new or not worn out yet.
So… which controller objectively is the most optimal for performing the EWGF? Keyboard, leverless, arcade stick or pad?
Keyboard or hitbox is in my opinion, I'm just reluctant to change as it is a big learning curve and I have been playing on stick a long time!
How many hours did you spend to do it consistently?
I can do the Wgf but I just can‘t get the ewgf right. I don‘t know why? Do you have any more tips? I do exactly what you‘re sayin but I just can‘t get it
I‘m on pad btw
@czcams.com/users/ravy3822 Are you inputting it as fast as you can? if you tap forward on the d-pad, and immediately press 2 afterward, it usually lines up perfectly for when your thumb slides to down-forward to get the electric
Great job on the thumbnail
Thank you very much!
Are there any major differences between jin's electric compared to the other mishimas? Because it seems like his launches differently
His does a different launch, yes.
It launches different and tornado spins immediately but other than that it shares similar characteristics.....still has high damage to!
Whole Mishima BloodLine aint sugarcoating it
the simultaneous bs is annoying hard on the controller
tip for DPAD: use ur thumb to get DF easier by that means is rather than rolling ur tumb like in the video you just mashed it at once it's more easier but then again
for every person it's different
but i dont know why EWGF is actually input was FNDF without D before DF
oh yeah try it on reina better if you wanted to practice it cause reina has electric dash to know the timing when you doing FNDDF
I play on controller stick and I always seem to struggle in matches inputting in from the left side. But when I'm on the right side of the screen, I nearly get electrics consistently. Any tips?
Left side is very tough and took me a while to get good on it. My best advice is to force yourself to play on the P1, that's what I did and now I prefer P1! Just practice doing it slowly on P1 in practice as its your whole hand doing the work compared to the P2 side
@Dianatroda yeah, the funny thing is I normally practice/play p1 side, and it feels more forced after a couple hours of playing. Whereas p2 side I never train and electrics come like nothing. It's weird. Just gotta keep working on it
He forgot about Kuma 😔
I dont show kuma enough love I'll admit that 😅
Thanks gonna use this to practice Kuma stuff 🙏
I actually might try kuma now that he has an electric 😅
@@Dianatroda he is super fun 🙏 and im having a blast
Did you change any buttons or joystick to your Etokki omni? or its just the same as you bought you
It's just the same as when I bought it, I think I will change the grommet in mine soon though as its lost a lot of it's resistance
@@DianatrodaSo you have the K-stick Version?
@@WrathofGuldan yep etokki omni korean edition
Recognised the accent straight away 🇮🇪, nice video btw 👍
Anywhere I go I get that 😅
Judging by the accent I'd say we're in a similar part of the world lol. Was wondering how did you get your hands on the eTokki stick? Did you order from them directly? Seems like they haven't restocked the korean version in a long time.
Good to hear :) I got my omni back in 2013 😅 I just had a look there and didn't even realise they weren't selling them anymore
It's a great stick very sturdy and you wouldn't think mine is over 10 years old! You didn't send them an email enquiring about one? Maybe they are bringing out one thats compatible with the PS5 now
@Dianatroda Aye I probably should've sent an email, I'll do that this evening. I just use a traditional japanese lever and it doesn't feel like it springs back to neutral very quickly. I can do single CD and EWGF some what consistently but chaining them is tough. Just have to keep at it. Anyway, brilliant guide!
@@Drunzer I'm going to email them myself now because I need a new fanta stick as the one I have is getting bet 😅I used a traditional japanese stick before switching and much preferred the korean stick!
If your doing it on pad and doing (foward - down - foward ) doesn’t that mean that your like technically skipping the DF input also to get it successfully I’m assuming you’d still need to hit (triangle) when your hitting the last foward input then?
No you wouldn't be skipping the down forward and you need to hit the triangle at the same time as downforward
Great video man genuinely helpful.
Also what was the song in this video it’s crazy
It's the the homaru theme from tekken 4, it is a classic!
Idk I’ll have to try later, but I think my problem with just frame is when I do wind god fist, I push 2 while doing forwards and not down forward
Turn on command history and look at exactly when you are hitting 2! Try to delay it a bit more then if you are hitting it to early!
I ordered the 8bitdo stick and sometimes i wonder if i should cancel it and get a hitbox or just bite the bullet and learn the stick😂 execited to practice
or just learn to use a pad like a poorboi
hahaah using the pad for some reason makes my finger tired super fast while using the claw grip, and the stick came yesterday and surprisingly i managed to nail a few electrics right away!@@GhostsGraveYT
PEWGF is the SECOND fastest NORMAL-HIT launcher (after Yoshimitsu's NSS flash).
Steve's b1, for instance, is faster than PEWGF but it's only a counter-hit launcher.
🤓
Flash is faster indeed but wouldn't be a traditional launcher in the sense as the opponent has to be attacking/make contact but yes it is faster (so cheap at times 😂)
Steve's b+1 is 13 frames which is the same as kazuya/Reina PEWGF and the fact that it's counterhit means it can't punish etc!
When you're doing the 2xewgf combo you can do the guaranteed stance version for the second ewgf every time and get it easily.
What do you mean by stance version?
@@bignoob2726 3+4 stance, hold df to cancel into red eye stance(forgot the name), then just press 2 for ewgf.
@@AodinValar damn, will ppl be able to tell that I'm a fraud tho?
@@bignoob2726 no one hit's every single ewgf and the only reason it's not as good as just straight up hitting the second ewgf is because you have to go into stance and essentially plan on hitting.
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Very good tutorial. I used to main Asuka, but Reina was too cool to not play. I can do the electric, but struggle with consistency. Any tips on finding that sweet spot for the timing?
Practice that’s all it is man.. once u find that spot u can’t lose it.. u honestly aren’t going to electric every single time even the best don’t
Practice as much as you can and it gets better over time. Just try out the different timings and make sure you put on command history in practice to see if you are inputting the 2 to early or to late!
Reina also a much stronger character than Asuka. Asuka received way too many nerfs in T8. Definitely among the worst characters in the game currently sadly.
@Shadowsmoke11 yeah I seen she got nerfed hard for some unknown reason, she wasn't really strong before that so not sure why they went for her at all
Thank you for the helpful replies. Not sure why they nerfed Asuka either. It’s all good though, I up for a challenge this time. Asuka was a lot less execution heavy.
Idk what I’m doing wrong exactly, your tip helped me do WGS and WGF, but I can’t seem to pull off EWGF at all. I have the input display out I see that I am pressing the correct input but it’s still giving me WGF instead of EWGF 😭
Someone commented here saying that after they tap forward they immediately hit the 2 and it lines up nicely with the down forward!
Are you doing the movement fast enough?
Whenever I try to do an electric with Jin the grab keeps coming out instead.
Which grab? Are you sure the 2 button is not mapped to more than the right punch?
Do you hit it x button twice?
No I don't hit the x button, it's the triangle button and you only hit it once!
Did you mod your stick to make it feel more comfortable to do”
Nope I didn't mod it, the etokki omni is a very comfortable stick!
Stupid question, can i do ewgf on xbox one controller?
@czcams.com/users/ache8080 yep you can
Try ➡️, ↘️+2
Is anyone able to do electrics consistently on the PS5 controller? Cause I've been struggling the past week.
it is possible, just takes a loooot of practice, people take years to get good at getting an electric capable of whiff punish, switching timings, counter hit, etc. See your command history to know where you messed up
New sub🎉,
Thank you for supporting the channel! Plenty more tutorials/guides to come!
Stupid question, can I apply this on Tekken 7? I don't have Tekken 8
@czcams.com/users/planerice7630 Yep its the exact same for Tekken 7!
I spend so much time mastering the electric.... but I still suck at this game because because I can't seem to remember the punish frames xD
I thought you said "we'll go through hell to do an electric" 💀
THAT’S IT!!!! IM UTILIZING THE DIA NA TRODA METHOD. I CAN DO ELECTRICS CONSISTENTLY ON P1 SIDE, P2 IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
IM MAINING RAVEN SINCE IM STILL LABBING HOW TO HIT ELECTRICS AT WILL. THANK YOU FOR THE CONTENT 🙏🏿
You're welcome and glad it helped!
It’s really difficult with the xbox controller since the d-pad is one whole thing, instead of the individual left,right,up,down buttons on a ps5 controller. That is my only problem
Yeah the xbox controller is not optimal for tekken at all! There is alternative pad controllers you could look at getting that are made for fighting games and are not to expensive!
New to tekken, feel like an arcade stick would fit me better, any recommendations?
Nah pad would be better for you since it is familiar. An arcade stick is extremely hard and it depends on what you're comfortable with because some stick has different sensitivity that even moving it slightly the character will move
Stick I think offers higher highs and lower lows. Im a god when it comes to execution on p2 side, but whenever I get side swapped it feels like my gameplay becomes noticably weaker.
Understand that stick is a time and cost invesment as well. It will not feel natural at all at first, and there might be chance that you end up getting frustrated, especially with movement and defense.
If youre willing to except these factors, then its most definetly possible to achieve great heights on stick in comparison to pad, but in the current landscape of fighting games id actually recommend a hit box. Has the ease of use of pad and allows for the fast execution you are likely after with a stick.
Buuuut.... if youre still insistent on an arcade stick more power to you. Its a rewarding and just plain fun input to master. Theres also a passionate community around stick modding. If youre looking for a good entry level, prob go with a mayflash f500 that either has the standard japanese sanwa parts, or is moddable to swap those parts in. But of course if you have more to spend then absolutely get a qanba obsidian. Best stick ive ever used and many tekken pros love it. Long asf message but I hope it helps (maybe I should have just made this into a video on my dead channel💀)
youtube.com/@HelloThere-bj9rw I think hunchosett gave a very good reply there and I agree with him. It takes a while to get good and comfortable with stick. When I first started it took me a good few months to get consistent with it. I was told back then that I needed to play on stick to take mishimas to the highest level possible but this isnt the case, you can easily do this on pad or hitbox either!
But if you are willing to put in the time and effort I would recommend a korean stick, I use the etokki omni Korean edition :)
@@Dianatroda great video btw im sorry i did not comment that! Its always awesome to view and support fgc creators, and I appreicate that you actually know your stuff. You'd be surprised how many people dont haha.
Also god I hope im lucky enough to get an ettoki but I cant find a decent new one for sale on reputable retailers. I've been wanting to make the jump to korean lever for awhile now, and im ready for the challenge of more precision but also more room for error with a gromet instead of a restrictor gate. I think my best bet is either the nacon daija or swapping out my sanwa on the qanba with likely the ROX dragon knee lever. I heard pretty good things about it and it looks so sick
@hunchosett Do they not still sell them on the etokki website? I got mine in 2012 so I'm not sure if they are not producing them anymore? But that being said I know it cost me a good bit at the time but well worth the investment as I still have it today and its working perfectly!
what is the difference between both? just the damage?
Electric is:
Safe on block
+ 5 on block
14 frames fast (13 with kaz/Reina)
More damage
Launches higher
WGF
punishable on block
15 frames fast
Less damage
@@Dianatrodato be 14 frames fast do you need all ypue inputs to be only a frame right? how realistic is that? i can do ewgf relatively consistens now but i till i reach the df+2 i need like 8-10 frames and not 3 lol.
You just need to input it perfectly yes!
My Fingers are sliding correctly same with imputs i dont get it.
Are you hitting 2 and down forward at the same time?
I’ve attempted this so many times but can’t get it right. I don’t think I’m fast enough
Just keep practicing you will eventually get it!
me maining kazuya just so i can dorya:
I’ve been practicing it for a bit. So far 2/10 is all a can do 😂
It will get better, keep practicing!
I remember in the old Tag 2 days I could do it very consistently with Kaz but nowadays I can't anymore. Guess I lost the muscle memory. Got some hard work to do....
The movement in TAG 2 was the GOAT! I did like Tag 2 even though it nearly killed the franchise
Currently on padbi use the dragon punch method. I still have to work on the timing but I can consistently wave dash using that motion. Now I just have to time the 2 with the "crescent" motion of the dragon punch input. If you play games like street fighter you know what that means. Simply, it's tap forward, tap down, while sliding your thumb from down to down foward.
Beginning song name please
Tekken 4 - Inner shrine Honmaru stage
Where is kuma
Man Kazuya looks cool in this game but I’m just a casual :(
Now do 5 electrics on pad in a combo
Can you Do a leverless guide?
I have never used a hitbox or keyboard before so I can't really do a guide for them! I do know that using hitbox is a big advantage for tekken though so I always thought would it be worth learning it 🤔
I been playing mishmas for years and im consistent with ewgf but i need to figure out how to do it quicker to punish effectively
You mean quicker for whiffs or block punishing with it? I used to play vs the CPU on TTT2 and just focus on backdashing and whiff punishing with electric in the early days, helped a lot to get me ready for doing it electric really fast in a match when an opponent whiffs a move in front of me!
isn't jett upper just as fast as ewgf
Yep it is
2 hours in practice and i cant still get the electric :D dont know what i do wrong
I have limited practice on player 2 side so my electrics are definitely better on player 1 lol. My main issue is that i can hit electrics pretty good in training mode but in a match my hands lose their nerve, and i only get maybe 2 or 3
Also can you go into detail about what a perfect ewgf is? I assumed it was just an electric with the fastest possible input, but i don't see how that would exclude Jin, Devil Jin and Kuma from doing it
I would just try and relax a bit more in a game and not focus on winning to much but just improving and taking what you did well in a match and what you didn't do well and work on it!
@@Countdownsmiles Yep I can indeed, It's in the process!
@@Dianatroda It's not necessarily winning i'm concerned with as much as it is just doing the stuff i practice. The mental stack is so much even before considering my opponent's character and what they're going to try and cheese me with lol
I do EWGF with Kazuya but in Smash 😊
Mishima clowns 🤡
Trying to do ewfg and wash dashing like crazy on a pad is hard af 😭😭😭
It is tough but plenty of great pad mishima players! Just a matter of practice
This doesn’t seem to work on pad
It does, I demonstrated it in the video! Just keep practicing
Currently stuck at 50% consistency at practice mode. I don't give up.
Can you make video how to do this on keyboard.
Maybe in the future, I dont play on keyboard but I am thinking about trying it out!
I need to get a korean stick now. I still use the sanwa
I used sanwa at the start and I much prefer the Korean stick, I feel electrics, wavedash and backdash are so much smoother! But that was just my experience with it I know a lot of people prefer the sanwa stick or the k stick
@Dianatroda I've been playing paul and dvj since tekken 5 with sanwas, but I want to try korean Stick since my friend recommends me one
@@Isaac-ry3ks I would also recommend one as it shouldn't be to different if you are use to using a sanwa stick!
@@Dianatroda He wanted to get me this one "CROWN/Samducksa Joystick Lever CWL-303MJ-DX-KMS-HST35 Crazy Dongpal Model" What do you think?
@Isaac-ry3ks My first Korean stick was a crown so it would be a good choice I think
It's not to expensive of an upgrade either!
So, from what you're saying in your intro, the EWGF is Tekken's version of Street Fighter's Hadoken.
Dragon punch not hadoken
Yeah dragon punch would be more fitting I think!
A tutorial on how not to sugarcoat things.
I need take my reina to next level and master this
Shes already very strong without but definitely good to be able to EWGF with her!
@@Dianatrodatime to go super sayian reina
I really hate these moves cause it feels like harada is really set on you destroying your controller instead of just taken out the normal wind god fist and leave ewgf in
There's new tech where apparently you can plink special style button and button to get ez electric every time but the problem is it comes out slower than the legit version at 18f whereas normal electric comes out in 13f. so it might be useless but still it's there.
Hmmm never heard of that method until now but 18 frames is a good bit slower but still another method!
I would suggest not practicing wgf but go straight to ewgf, this mindset will help build muscle memory for ewgf rather than wgf
Not working
The electric part?
1+3 on L1, it more easy
I have heard when people map to shoulder button it makes it easier alright!
Man I need some help 2 weeks practicing and still nothing
@czcams.com/users/K1DPUNK Can you get the normal wind god fist out but just not the electric part?
@@Dianatroda yes
@K1DPUNK_ have you got the electric version even once? Try binding 2+3 to the l1 button and use that as you're 2 button for the electric...some people find it easier to do it like this at first!
@@Dianatroda I spoke to soon I can get now , a little more consistent than before , but the f will not input and it will just give me d/f the other launcher Reina has
@@K1DPUNK_ Glad to hear you are getting it a little more consistently. When you mean the f will not input what do you mean? Is the forward coming up on the command history?