The Worst EU4 Disaster Save I Have Ever Laid Eyes Upon.
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- čas přidán 3. 12. 2022
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I FIGURED IT OUT:
The inflation seemed sus so I opened up the first save he sent again and checked what taking full money from Ming would give me. And what do you know? It's over 60 inflation. This is because OP's economy shrank down to 7 ducats due to occupation from Poland/Denmark so taking several thousand ducats caused massive inflation.
The rest is easily explainable through debasing currency or going bankrupt. The other question was "why go bankrupt when you can take all that money from Ming?" Well OP also couldn't have more than 3 loans due to being occupied. OP had like 15 and >3k in debt so they couldn't pay it all off with Ming money. OP's real mistake was not capitulating to Poland and Denmark faster.
I have never seen inflation from peace deal actually doing something, that's pretty funny
@@grubygrzib6308 the same happens when taking max money when playing as horde against ming in the beginning of the game, like oirat. instant 10+ inflation every time
@@dings4097 10 inflation is nothing compared to that, also as horde you are gonna have much more money and enough points to reduce it (if you really want to for some reason) from razing
People forget that losing wars is also apart of the game.
Poor guy got Mali'd
Ahh, so he was going for that "Times of Troubles" RP, I see.
Couldn't think of a more appropriate time for that disaster to fire, especially after losing Moscow
Looks like 1600 Russia roleplaying 70 years early.
Russia is, surprise surprise, very big, so there's a lot of hugely varying geology. While so much of it's interesting, I'm only going to cover a little bit for both the sake of my sanity and my own health (it's still a lot though lol). First will be two cool non-volcanic things, the second two are covering volcanoes.
First off: the Ural Mountains form the "official" boundary between Europe and Asia. Geologically they're effectively one continent now, but the Ural Mountains actually did originally form (about 300-250 million years ago) as a result of the collision site between two continents-a region of Pangaea formally its own continent called Baltica (which consisted of Scandinavia, the Baltic States, parts of Poland and Ukraine and most of western Russia) versus the more easterly continent of Kazakhstania (which underlies western Siberia, parts of Central Asia and western China and, surprise surprise, Kazakhstan). They're way taller and less eroded than most other mountains of a similar age; some of the rocks that make them up are also hundreds of millions of years older than the mountains themselves.
Secondly, Lake Baikal-the deepest, oldest * and most voluminous lake in the world (according to Wikipedia, it's over 1.6 km deep, is as much as 30 million years old and contains more water than all of the North American Great Lakes combined and covers a greater area than Belgium)-exists due to a continental rift developing there. The surface of the rift lies deep under the surface; below the bottom of the lake itself exists more than 7 km of sediments, so the rift bottom is at least 8-9 km down. The rift is between the Eurasian plate to the northwest and the Amur plate to the southwest. It may eventually split to form an ocean in between if it doesn't stop spreading and the edges ever reach the existing oceans, much like what is slowly happening in East Africa.
There are two regions of Russia with extensive modern or recent volcanism-the Caucasus Mountains in southwestern Russia and the peninsula of Kamchatka in the Far East. The Caucasus hasn't had volcanism in a few thousand years but it has the potential for future volcanism; dormant Russian volcanoes there include Elbrus and Kazbek (Kazbek is on the border with Georgia, and in Georgian the mountain's name is Mqinvartsveri). Its volcanism is a result of the collision between the Iranian plate and the Eurasian plate. Kamchatka has many active volcanoes, with eruptions quite frequently; it's on the Ring of Fire and its volcanism is caused by the subduction of the Pacific plate under a smaller plate called the Okhotsk plate. Some of its volcanoes are absolutely gorgeous-I recommend looking up Kronotsky because it's one of the most symmetric and beautiful volcanoes I've ever seen photos of, and I'd love to see it in person. There's also a volcano called Bezymianny. It's not unusually pretty but its name is funny because it literally means "unnamed".
Last thing: about 251.9 million years ago, the greatest mass extinction ever occurred. Since it happened at the end of a period called the Permian, it's usually called the Permian-Triassic Extinction Event or the End-Permian extinction, or colloquially as the Great Dying. Something like 80% of marine species and 70% of terrestrial species went extinct and the species that survived were largely decimated. The reason why this happened was that the CO2 content of the atmosphere rose by over 2000 ppm over 60,000 years** due to a long-period, high-volume series of eruptions of runny basalt lava in what's now Siberia. This is called the Siberian Traps, and you can still see the lavas that erupted; they cover about 7 million km^2. There's a couple names for this phenomenon, with Mass Basaltic Extrusion (MBE), Large Igneous Province (LIP) and Flood Basalt each being fairly common; I prefer Flood Basalt, personally. Many flood basalts have occurred throughout Earth's history, including some fairly recently, but none have been nearly as extensive as the Siberian Traps.
* Maybe actually second-oldest-some evidence suggests Kazakhstan's Lake Zaysan may be more than twice as old.
** For context, in the last 200 years the CO2 in the atmosphere has risen by 130 ppm to a little over 400 ppm. It was a MASSIVE increase during the eruption of the Siberian Traps-although it should be noted that over the last 200 years the average rate is more than 20 times what it was during the Great Dying and it's been accelerating, although the rate of acceleration has decreased and is likely to continue to decrease, luckily. Still, the climate is absolutely buggered and it'll take a very long time to recover.
Very interesting read! I visited Russia once and I always wanted to return, this time to visit and see the diverse ecology and geology there. Lake Baikal is definitely up there in my bucket list
Climate isn't "buggered" you absolute goon.
Hang in there with Uni. I took seven years to get my Bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering, but I got there. You're gonna make it.
at this state of the game i would have actually given up but holy crap, you’ve shown me that even the worst times of trouble juggling between 3 disasters and a war while beaten down hard is still enough to get back up
14:02 I get what you're trying to say, but debasing currency does have a very minor use case of taking advantage of free money if you have an event or button to reduce the corruption entirely
Sunni moment
yeah debasing combined with the muslim legalist piety interaction is basically free moneu
@@aetu35 Still should only be used when absolutely necessary because if you don't get piety often the modifiers from having high legalism may actually outweigh the instant free money in long term earnings
Honestly I take it often if I have something which gives me ticking corruption reduction. An extra bump in money every few years for like 1-2% mana cost is nothing.
Another use for it is hordes. Corruption reduces unrest and hordes have infinite mana so you can just expand extremely rapidly with no worries for rebbels and buckets of ducats as a horde using it. Never used that 'strat' except when doing short runs where i just wamna go ham though probably not a viable tactic longtherm.
This looks intentionally ruined by the sender to make it onto your channel or produce a better video. Minus stab, legitimacy, prestige, corruption and inflation, I mean come on. I think it would feel better if you included a segment to why they went into such a bad situation.
bankruptcy and debasing can explain most of that, but not the inflation. I still haven't figured out where they got all of that.
Edit: I figured it out. At the end of the player's war with Ming, they took full money but their economy was so small from occupation that the inflation effect was like 50 inflation
@@QuarbitGaming holy christ, I see. Still, I'd love to see the context beforehand because I'm myself have those ideas. I'd love to be featured on the channel and I know how to debase. Perhaps I see myself too much in it though
@@QuarbitGaming u ruined the game file yourself Kappa
@@akshaymishra3674 tbf, does it matter. Still get to watch him fix up this disasterous save
@@QuarbitGaming loans give inflation no?
Keep it going! I found it so fun to watch this nightmare become a dream!
Great vid, I always love seeing campaigns saved. Such a different type of playing. And going through disasters, multiple wars, corruption, horror inflation... that's not easy at all. Well done.
Dude just casually recovered the impossible
Dude this was an awesome play through
Really enjoyed the video !
LETS GOOOO A DISASTER SAVE VID, clicked so fast on it on my recommendations
Holy crap your voice certainly changed in the last 3 years (just saw your beginner's tips). Hope you are doing well
Would the optimal play here just be to release and play as Novogorod? This seems so bad it might be
Funnily enough I was in an mp game (casual game with like 16 friends, super fun)
The Hosokawa player ended the game with I believe 57 corruption? And his "main rival" (memeing bully), the United States ended it with 40 inflation from all the goldmines
is this a challenge ? do you want me to make you even worse disaster ?
In my opinion you probably could’ve waited out the bankruptcy against Kazan in the first war and fought to a truce. I also think you should’ve done war reps instead of cash (no inflation), BUT good job. I would certainly not have been able to pull this off!
How do i send you a save? I gpt a cursed hre run where netherlands austria france and spain are king electors
I wonder what would happen if he took over irl Russian disaster save. Would he be able to do it?
Russia is probably the hardest start out of all advised in 1444. I am, personally, don't enjoy playing as starting great powers, but now have a Russian campaign on VH with XormeAI (1.33) and oh boy... It's 1508 and I whitepeaced co-belligerent Ming in Oirat conquest. I had 110 thousands against almost 300 their. Of course victory was highly situational with many nuances, but these moments exact bring me back to this game over and over again.
I'd say sweden and burgundy would be harder on xorme ai, muscovy has the advantage of only having 1 powerful enemy on their border while having an amazing religion, idea set and mechanics
@@toreq1127 Xorme AI itself is good, I would say it 3 times more aggressive than what paradox did in 1.34, but slightly not enough for me after all. So, I never run a campaign on difficulty below hard.
In that case diplomacy is hard and limited. As Russia in 19 cases out of 20 Ottomans or Ottomans an Poland will kill you before 1490s. You'll not survive without allies and Russia is the one with with the least opportunity to get some.
majapahit?
@12:00 the released nation's religion depends on the religion in their original core provinces. Not just the cores you control before releasing them. So great horde will be sunni even if you release them on a single orthodox province.
this save gives me hope because i am not that bad
I think economic ideas is more useful, because -0,1 inflation per month and bonuses on dev and buildings
also has some good policies as well
best combined with Quality to get that sweet +5% discipline from the "weapon quality act" policy ontop of the +5% from ideas.
It's not per month it's per year, it's literally useless. It would take 770 years to get rid of the inflation he got. He shouldn't have taken any admin ideas at all, instead spending admin points reducing inflation. It's only takes 2925 admin points to go from 77 inflation to zero. It takes 1200 admin points to reach the 0.10 early inflation reduction in economic ideas and then you would have to wait literally 770 years. By this time if you reduce manually you already have only 45 inflation.
More disaster saves!
I can’t believe you won that first war against Poland you are a god at this game
This is by far the most impressive saved runs I've ever seen
Here o thought my run as mongolia with
Barely making profit with my armies
Constant lack ofmanpower
No admin power (even with pp for cash mod)
Back in tech (8 stages😂)
Lack of 2 institutions
No prosperity
Barely any trade
Trade companies and stafe shenanigans
10 corruption for 80 years already
2 inflation
Infinite coalition in warlords of china
Ottomans at my border eating it up (2 lost wars cus Otto has 200k army)
And its 1590's
I saw the thumbnail and instantly thought: Oh so it's just historical Russian gameplay.
I was in a similarly bad position in a multiplayer Russia game once. I went bankrupt and lost to the !notFrench Revolution shortly after. Solved most of my problems.
And here come one day ago patreon comments...
Does anyone have a few spare ducats so I can beat them?
If not I might have to take a loan...hmmm...
I watched a guide that said to take trade, so I just took trade. What should I have taken? I didn’t really like it but I also don’t like Muscovy it’s been a drag the whole time.
with muscovy, probably a military group like offensive or maybe diplomatic ideas. Trade gives you marginal returns at the beginning and isn't necessary by late game
i usually take religious, defensive/quantity, influence and trade with russia. Religious should always be your first idea with orthodox nations
@@QuarbitGaming With Mother Russia, all it matters is Quantity Ideas, comrade.
Lore friendly Russia
Starting with Trade is pretty much the 1.f3 of EU4.
Literally same inflation as in poland
Peasant disaster is the easiest one though, so I would allow that to fire to prevent the other two.
This looks like failed relentless push east run. Or maybe the player just likes horrible borders.
my first eu4 game ever went bettter, how tha fuk did he manage to do that?
he snaked east taking only worst provinces possible.
How do you even lose Moscow ? Would the AI even demand it in an unconditional surrender?
Likely yes
Wow, you fixed the second worst Russian disaster save in history
#1 being the game PutinKGB is doing over on his channel/s
Never debase currency? Debasing currency is something you should always be doing if you have passive corruption reduction. Not doing so is just wasting your resources.
An edge case is also playing republics, as when they execute the bailiff they get -2% corruption. Meaning you can debase for a free cash injection.
Also, grabbing defensive ideas and going behind on mil tech is okay as Russia. You will have disgusting attrition for your enemies so you can fight through that. It requires you to know how to use attrition warfare, though.
nice
The problem in this region is that you have no money
😢
damn
I dont really know you can f up muscovy so bad. Even in my first game i owned lithuania, constantinople and finland in 1550 and i am not the greatest of players
*What's your major at uni?*
computer science
@@QuarbitGaming undergrad or graduate school
@@sasi5841 I'm a dumbass no way I'm doing graduate studies lol
@@QuarbitGaming are you going to be graduating in spring next year?
I recently started going to going to grad school for MechE. I would not recommend grad school unless you really know what you want to do. It is a pain.
@@sasi5841 I'm graduating may 2024
It takes 2925 admin points to go from 77 inflation to 0, and the entire idea set costs 2800. You should have decreased the inflation instead of taking religious ideas, which are basically useless in the current situation.
Just buy down the inflation..the sooner he does it, the sooner he can afford better advisors
Man just pronounced plague as "plaag" lmao
To rhyme with Prague?
@@saoirsedeltufo7436 Yes haha
what's with op's ugly border gore smh
Prioritizing taking money with 70 inflation? kind of sketchy advice unless you never plan to get rid of it.
better to take inflation from wars than loans 🗿
@@QuarbitGaming that is assuming you're in the red, If I can, I'd rather just chill for a 100 years while keeping lots of low maintenance streltsy to scare off aggressors and only wars which don't require any extra militarisation (which seemed to have been your strat anyways)
I just have one thought in me head... "what moron played this before?"
There are so many instructional videos about EU4, including playthroughs for Muscovy, that this is just shameful...
Not everyone looks up guides. Many play and learn as they play
@@akai4942 """"Learn""""
@@akai4942 who is on your profile pic?
Now do Putin's Russia disaster save.
That save isn't too bad.
The oligarch estate is cut down in size.
Western encroachment is stalled. The war is looking good, low casualties, steady advances. The other side forcing its vassal to use human wave tactics is quite helpfull for bleeding their manpower.
The worst effects of western looting after switching tags have been dealt with. Still a bad situation. tho. Switchig tags from USSR to Russia was a massive downgrade and the resulting "capitalist restoration"- disaster is just absurdly brutal.
Excellent alliance situation.
Its a tricky game, but not a disaster.
@@kazaddum2448 What you talking about? Russia is like 5 levels behind on miltech and have to rely on condotteri from Iran and merc stacks to maintain any kind of pressure, they are sitting on the corruption cap at 100, they have taken roughly 2x casualties in an ongoing war and their troops are constantly bleeding more through attrition damage, the entire (relevant) world besides India and China are in a coalition against them, their economy has shrunk to an insignificant amount (less than minor powers in Europe, like Italy), they're having rebels spawn throughout their country constantly, their republican tradition has gone through the floor and they've already swapped to a presidential dictatorship, but without ensuring they have a ruler with acceptable stats first. Basically they've done everything wrong.
@@kazaddum2448 Justwait for the bonuses from Forced Golden Age and "Propaganda Bombardment" mission to end, they will go to direct bankruptcy.
you know how Ukraine getting their asses handed to them in the real world? I dunno why Russia is such a big deal. Im playing Germany 300k troops. Russia has 200k. Ive done 3 wars against them so far and not fought one single battle.. their armies never turn up. All Ukraine needs to do is get Space Marine military and wait for Russia to have all its troops in East Russia... oh.. and preferably declare war when Russia doesn't have nukes!
uh... it's the opposite actually lmao... Russia is currently retreating from important positions in Ukraine
@@alexbattaglia8297 retreating in the sense that America retreated from Germany after ww2?
I’m pretty sure Russia isn’t winning. How could you think they were?
@@ohNojames The fact that Ukraine is going dark and despite having military aid the size of 163% of the military budget(as of now and still begging for more per the latest statement of Zelensky) of Russia they still haven't managed to deal a military defeat to the invaders.
@@ohNojames because im not a brainwashed idiot who believes everything they see on western media?