Is Hisn Kayfa Secretly The STRONGEST OPM in EU4?

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  • čas přidán 16. 07. 2022
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Komentáře • 139

  • @QuarbitGaming
    @QuarbitGaming  Před rokem +18

    Part 2 is now out!: czcams.com/video/oLeeCfutf-w/video.html

  • @DmSL1906
    @DmSL1906 Před rokem +468

    * attempts to restore Ayyubid legacy *
    * proceeds to let the Ayyubid line die out *

    • @QuarbitGaming
      @QuarbitGaming  Před rokem +186

      They were weak. We'll build a stronger dynasty

    • @mackycabangon8945
      @mackycabangon8945 Před rokem +41

      this is why i dont disinherit if I have a famous starting dynasty

    • @the_yobo
      @the_yobo Před rokem +17

      @@mackycabangon8945 i had a game as inca where the Hanan dynasty (the one with Pachacuti and Tupac Yupanqui) until the end of the game, feels good man

    • @mackycabangon8945
      @mackycabangon8945 Před rokem +16

      @@the_yobo same but with Ardabil-> Persia, kept the safavids the whole time

    • @the_yobo
      @the_yobo Před rokem +5

      @@mackycabangon8945 its one lf the best feelings

  • @efulmer8675
    @efulmer8675 Před rokem +66

    14:00 Mamluks: "I have heard of your heir problems. Would you like a 14 point heir?"

    • @idontlikerome2744
      @idontlikerome2744 Před 3 měsíci

      Two heirs of the Ayyubids were disinherited earlier, so why not give the throne to a circassian dude

  • @aculstingray
    @aculstingray Před rokem +132

    This reminds me of my Hisn Kayfa Run where the Ottomans basically took every province I needed and I had to take back around 400% warscore from them while being outnumbered almost 1:3. Very fun times indeed

  • @darthceasar3690
    @darthceasar3690 Před rokem +136

    kinda sad that you let ayubid dynasty die out

    • @harrylion6689
      @harrylion6689 Před rokem +39

      Kind of missed the whole point of the run

  • @specil-k
    @specil-k Před rokem +111

    brother when you get a 4/4/0 just focus on MIL and brace through it like a champ

    • @jameslevy9964
      @jameslevy9964 Před rokem +3

      4/4/0 is below average though

    • @specil-k
      @specil-k Před rokem +18

      @@jameslevy9964 With the focus on military points it's a 3/3/2, which while below average is nothing to throw away. Plus you can easily find cheap advisors to bump it up to average or above.

    • @jameslevy9964
      @jameslevy9964 Před rokem +7

      @@specil-k I understand where you're getting at but when you're attempting to expand and grow like Quarbit is it's a great help to have a better leader. Don't see why you'd hold your country for a potentially worse ruler

    • @mackycabangon8945
      @mackycabangon8945 Před rokem +12

      @@jameslevy9964 Yea maybe its slightly below average but he should have kept it, I would have kept a 4/4/0 if it meant not risking the loss of my dynasty

    • @jameslevy9964
      @jameslevy9964 Před rokem +6

      @@mackycabangon8945 The loss of dynasty really isn’t an issue for The Muslim denomination

  • @alexeshun1225
    @alexeshun1225 Před rokem +343

    why dont you release syria from that one province you own and then ask ottobros to return cores using your favours, seems like free land to me

    • @nituldeshptha99
      @nituldeshptha99 Před rokem +17

      I think that province loses its core over time. So maybe by the time Quarbit got the province, he couldn't release syria

    • @basileus9472
      @basileus9472 Před rokem +99

      @@nituldeshptha99 Syria will never lose cores in syrian culture provinces

    • @4ester709
      @4ester709 Před rokem +33

      @@nituldeshptha99 countries with their primary cultures never lose cores by time. Exception - special events like Greek nationalism or Ring of Normandy

    • @QuarbitGaming
      @QuarbitGaming  Před rokem +197

      Big brain idea. Might do that

    • @johnlienhart2717
      @johnlienhart2717 Před rokem +26

      I've noticed that when you do that, you're at huge risk to lose your alliance. Even at 100 trust, they still consider that land to be "vital interest" thus causing massive opinion malice. So it depends on how much you need to take back.
      They may have changed it in 1.33 I haven't tried it since then

  • @jordanventer9490
    @jordanventer9490 Před rokem

    Good luck sir! Thanks for all your content. Your old guide videos helped me start out in eu4 so I’m really grateful for all your work!

  • @krisbrox
    @krisbrox Před rokem

    Fantastic gameplay and editing, and impressive hisn kayfa-ing. I have yet to attempt saladins legacy, but this makes me interested in making an attempt!

  • @josiahjordan5731
    @josiahjordan5731 Před rokem +9

    I remember Zlewikk doing this years ago, so glad you have done it too, such a fun achievement to watch

    • @MegaMarcin98
      @MegaMarcin98 Před rokem +3

      Arumba did this achievement. Idk if you know him but his videos show every minute of progress; as well as explaining a lot of things to his viewers from stream chat. Naturally, the series ends up being very long. But I've learned loads from him

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 Před rokem +21

    Hissin' Kayfa, a country just made out of cool snakes

  • @aleksajakic8447
    @aleksajakic8447 Před rokem +2

    7:52 I guess he returned from the mountains😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @melon_man_dan6888
    @melon_man_dan6888 Před rokem +18

    There’s no need to exploit development before devving for institution. Because the amount of institution per click is directly related to development, starting the dev process can be more expensive if the province is lower. I think you hinted at that when you mentioned 6 is a bad number. The wiki says The best starting dev before institution is 16 iirc. So starting at 14 is better than exploiting first.

    • @QuarbitGaming
      @QuarbitGaming  Před rokem +11

      in some cases you get to like 99% and then have to sink another dev. If you exploit at the beginning, then you would arrive at the same total dev-1, because you don't have to sink that extra on the end. Because the cost of devving is so much more at the end of the process, it's sometimes worth going down by 1. So even tho the number of dev clicks is the same, the amount being spent is less.

  • @notcraig255
    @notcraig255 Před rokem +25

    you let the ottomans expand too much

  • @DuncanWanyoike
    @DuncanWanyoike Před rokem

    good vid. nice story. send them all to the hills

  • @jameslevy9964
    @jameslevy9964 Před rokem +1

    A really nice play with the Mamluk war. Pretty big brain

  • @AmitBrown21
    @AmitBrown21 Před rokem

    Great video 👍🏼

  • @yazui.i.9368
    @yazui.i.9368 Před rokem +9

    I think Bregenz is really strong, because of Budgetmonks latest achievement.

  • @PopThatOrder66
    @PopThatOrder66 Před rokem

    This was pretty cool, definitely one of the achievements I would like to do soon. Have you considered a True Heir of Timur vid?

  • @Titan_TM
    @Titan_TM Před rokem

    I actually got the Saladin achivement before the byzantium one, this was before I got the favour DLC so I just used the ottomans to bulldoze everyone

  • @regnarrocker6162
    @regnarrocker6162 Před rokem

    If they haven't fixed it, you can actually reroll heirs on a request heir offer. It does involve save scumming though, so if you don't want to do that kind of thing you don't have to.

  • @hellodolly7989
    @hellodolly7989 Před rokem

    Hisn Kayfa is very fun. With the Ottomans as an ally and some starting luck you can finish this achievement before 1500. The hardest part is getting the land around your start, after that you can trucebreak the Mamluks until you win, as they own 75% of the land you need.

  • @Barista.Nathan
    @Barista.Nathan Před rokem

    iirc return core versus cede province in a peace deal is different. One gives less liberty desire from "Events, Province Defections" and one just does nothing and raises total dev vs. overlord.

  • @MyFunnyVids888
    @MyFunnyVids888 Před rokem

    21:36 sometimes i wish that some eu4 mission trees allowed you to change entire trade nodes if you do enough. If they give tunis more flavoring they could get a mission to turn tunisia into an end node or something. idk it just gets super boring to have the same trade nodes that out-compete pretty much every other one in my opinion. or maybe have the Morrocan and Sevillan node flow into tunisia and then tunisia only flows into genoa. At least something similar to these with multiple nations so that Britain and similar nations can't just sleepwalk its way through a game as a player.

  • @Luke_Freeman
    @Luke_Freeman Před rokem +1

    When is the second video coming!? This was a great run bro

  • @SheheenFans
    @SheheenFans Před rokem

    I'm sure you have heard this before, but you are like the Sseth of eu4, and I am 100% here for it.

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC Před rokem

    This run can also move easily into This is Persia

  • @n3vascared501
    @n3vascared501 Před rokem

    Thank you for playing the game longer than an hour and then posting a 20 min video about it like some other streamers.

  • @spudeism
    @spudeism Před rokem

    You should next plays as EYE-raq.
    Then maybe form EYE-ran (Persia) as Ajam.
    After that form EYE-talia as Sicily.

  • @zetsokuro2614
    @zetsokuro2614 Před rokem +1

    change for future updates (mb I'm bad so could be too broken) - if you fully annex a country you should just get all their money as well

    • @QuarbitGaming
      @QuarbitGaming  Před rokem +1

      a bit too broken. A lot of smaller countries amass thousands of ducats because they have nothing left to spend them on. You might get like 10k from annexing the knights.

  • @Dante-mr3rz
    @Dante-mr3rz Před rokem +6

    You should've blocked Ottos expansion in Mams land. You are gonna have a bad time now.

  • @georgem3194
    @georgem3194 Před rokem +1

    My favourite nation probably, enjoyable region, isn't easy and very good ideas.

  • @lolmaster438
    @lolmaster438 Před rokem

    If an ally is unlikely to join the war (because of the various reasons) the best way you know they won't join is if they broke the alliance with the nation that has been declared on. So when AQ was attacked, Ottomans actually broke their alliance because they dishonored the call to arms.

  • @dubara7759
    @dubara7759 Před rokem +1

    trading favors for trust in order to keep your ally is interesting, definitely would help in my latest save

  • @berkaykayaseker9734
    @berkaykayaseker9734 Před rokem

    And the only province qq didn t reoccupied is Rahba, the green lined one.

  • @yogi_gs
    @yogi_gs Před rokem

    I think we need more flavor for hisn kayfa and formable ayyubid.

  • @Cat-up6hb
    @Cat-up6hb Před rokem

    22:20
    while we are at it, a request to buy provinces of off somebody

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 Před rokem

    ive never seen the hre get more than 3 reforms as ai

  • @sergeantmajor_gross
    @sergeantmajor_gross Před rokem

    Nice

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 Před rokem

    ive noticed the game lies in peace deals with AE if ur a native american tribe... i went around taking tons of colonial nation provinces for ages with seemingly not much ae.. then suddenly Spain & Portugal coalitioned me both with 100+ ae... but it doesnt say it in the peace deals.. just cos they have one or two provinces nearby before they become colonies

  • @ComradeHellas
    @ComradeHellas Před rokem

    Already done B-)

  • @ProsK0
    @ProsK0 Před rokem +2

    your voice like bittersteel and you are like bittersteel eu4 version

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 Před rokem

    ive been playing a custom nation with mostly economic national ideas.. i went admin ideas, trade ideas, plutocracy ideas.. seems to be going pretty well... im pretty wealthy.. if u cant win wars due to being good at fighting then just pay to win

  • @shararm
    @shararm Před rokem

    What mod adds the cool pictures for events

  • @tfljmartis7681
    @tfljmartis7681 Před rokem +1

    "Hisn Kayfat"

  • @Rullino32
    @Rullino32 Před rokem

    I also have subject with better rulers and generals than me like in 11:50, IDK why I can't get a 3 star general at 70 AT while my subjects get a 6/5/5/2.

  • @rubenvanbelzen1940
    @rubenvanbelzen1940 Před rokem

    17:43 I play with favors, but never get these pop-ups, does someone know why? I never get favors for helping in my allies wars…

  • @daanw6270
    @daanw6270 Před rokem

    Oh.. ok.

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 Před rokem +2

    Hisn Kayfa has a pretty cool map colour, flag and a cool name.. might be worth playing just for that.. shame they dont have a good mission tree ( you would think if they used to own all of egypt and middle east as a large empire there would be a large mission tree to take it all back???!!!

  • @ssmatthews6798
    @ssmatthews6798 Před rokem

    When is dinner served?

  • @SereglothIV
    @SereglothIV Před rokem

    Gotta be the first time I heard someone pronounce the Mamluks as 'Mamlaks'

    • @QuarbitGaming
      @QuarbitGaming  Před rokem

      gotta be the first comment mentioning it

    • @SereglothIV
      @SereglothIV Před rokem

      @@QuarbitGaming I'm not complaining or anything, it just kinda caught my attention, that's all :)

  • @Mongo69
    @Mongo69 Před rokem +1

    play verona

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 Před rokem +1

    you know when an ally calls you into a war and then you do most of the fighting & sieging and then they give you nothing.. does it make them hate you if you peace out early and take what you want?

    • @viniciusyugulis7278
      @viniciusyugulis7278 Před rokem +1

      You get -10 trust from them

    • @tigrecito48
      @tigrecito48 Před rokem +1

      @@viniciusyugulis7278 ah ok... i just find it annoying that i do all the work and they take all the land youd think theyd be more generous if the only reason they won was me

    • @viniciusyugulis7278
      @viniciusyugulis7278 Před rokem

      Yes I hate it too

    • @viniciusyugulis7278
      @viniciusyugulis7278 Před rokem

      In my Mamluks game Austria kept calling me into their stupid wars against half of Europe, the league war was the crossing line for me and I just broke with them bf it fired

    • @viniciusyugulis7278
      @viniciusyugulis7278 Před rokem

      That burgundy-liege war involving literally all of Western Europe bf the 1500 was just stupid and I was the only reason Austria, Liege and buddys won

  • @darkZarchon
    @darkZarchon Před rokem

    Re: sell me your institutions, I believe that much like how the AI does not want to buy institutions if it would put them into debt, they do not consider offering institutions to countries that would go into debt, even if it's by just a little bit. I agree that this is very big dumb, but may provide a way to increase your chances of getting them to sell to you in future runs.

  • @Mr_Valentin.
    @Mr_Valentin. Před rokem +1

    Can you play eu4 extended timeline where you play as the byzantines during the rise of islam ? Where you defend against the rashiduns and Sassanids while you try to form the Roman empire? I don't know... Maybe this is too hard for you, i don't think you can do it to be honest. 😏

  • @Molohith
    @Molohith Před rokem

    Why are Rassids present, but Ayyubids are not ?!

  • @romanianturk2101
    @romanianturk2101 Před rokem

    Ardabil is strongest Eu4 Opm.
    Oda is great but it's not a "doom music" battle opm at the start
    With 100 myst at the start, and good national mp ideas ardabil is set to kick butts with a lot of morale and men. If you get alliance with QQ life is easy as pie.

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 Před rokem

    can you make persia as hisn kayfa?

    • @rorybax3287
      @rorybax3287 Před rokem +1

      I think so, Kurdish is in the Iranian group, he just doesn't have all the provinces.

  • @gcghhc
    @gcghhc Před rokem

    why does he always wait to take techs? is it because he wants to save the mp for something else or is there like some other mechanic i’m not aware of

    • @IquonYT
      @IquonYT Před rokem

      It costs significantly more mana if you havent embraced the Institution.

    • @denizorsel1029
      @denizorsel1029 Před rokem

      as much as I could remember, if you wait then things related to that tech line cost less or something..

    • @QuarbitGaming
      @QuarbitGaming  Před rokem +3

      I judge the technologies based on their immediate utility. Mil techs are always important to take ASAP unless the cost is ridiculous, idea group techs are also good. I try to maintain ahead of time status for the innovativeness, but I don't take techs if they're like 30% more expensive. Especially when I'm ahead of time (unless it's a mil tech that grants a necessary advantage during a war). If you're wondering about some of the ones I take a while to take, it's because I'm filling idea groups, which give a discount on tech of the same category. So if I fill a group, I'm saving on those techs significantly. Hope this helps.

    • @gcghhc
      @gcghhc Před rokem +1

      @@QuarbitGaming it does thanks a lot i had no idea filling ideas reduced tech costs other than like innovative. i always would prioritize techs over ideas in order to stay ahead of time. what’s the best way to keep the costs down? i noticed (idk if it was this video) a dip tech was only 300mp

    • @QuarbitGaming
      @QuarbitGaming  Před rokem +2

      @@gcghhc keeping on top of your ideas is important because tech cost increases over time. Filling out your groups is the easiest way, but there are some ideas, missions, and religions that can help. Full legalism Sunni is -10%, while having loyal and influential dhimmi also decreases the cost. Waiting for your neighbours to take tech also decreases the cost for you, which is why my tech cost was so low for that Diplo after I finished the idea group. I would also advise against taking techs which you do not have the institution for, unless the increase is negligible and it's an important tech. Devving an institution is almost always a better option unless it spawned really close or you have easy means of acquiring it. I usually only take tech when I would lose innovativeness.

  • @enKageKagen
    @enKageKagen Před rokem

    The strongest OPM is Navarra, but it is nit hidden.

  • @sajt6619
    @sajt6619 Před rokem

    Its ridiculous even that they put nation for the lols as if it was a thing

  • @MeisterSexy11
    @MeisterSexy11 Před rokem

    I dont religious schools is that part of a dlc?

  • @Turkcypriot
    @Turkcypriot Před rokem

    I am Kurd and I wanted to learn this game with a Kurdish state why doesnt this damn game take place in the 1200s :( so I could play with ayyubid sultane

  • @reubengreen4279
    @reubengreen4279 Před rokem +1

    Nah bro it’s Shimazu.

  • @mango4586
    @mango4586 Před rokem

    we all know ulm is the true strongest OPM

  • @seanm241
    @seanm241 Před rokem

    Smh u forgot about ulm

  • @TumblingKoala
    @TumblingKoala Před rokem

    Im having second thoughts about a HK playthrough haha this looks miserable

  • @skidadle3071
    @skidadle3071 Před rokem

    Please don’t disrespect Ulm again

  • @CharlieKellyEsq
    @CharlieKellyEsq Před rokem

    1.33 battles are really bad. It doesn't require the player to plan at all. (outnumbered 5 to 1 and your reinforcing army is 4 provinces away? NO PROBLEM!) It's just annoying. Mistakes can't be capitalized on as easily. in mp, no matter how good the weaker player is, numbers reigns supreme.

  • @themaavpage8169
    @themaavpage8169 Před 9 měsíci

    Ragusa is easily the strongest OPM are u mad

    • @QuarbitGaming
      @QuarbitGaming  Před 9 měsíci

      coping, crying, malding, seething, in shambles, life altered irreversibly