Transfers, FFP and Howe's future - What Newcastle missing out on Europe REALLY means
Vložit
- čas přidán 26. 05. 2024
- Hello and welcome to The Everything is Black and White Podcast.
Newcastle United have missed out on Europe following Manchester United's FA Cup win at Wembley Stadium.
NUFC editor Aaron Stokes assesses what it means for the Magpies this summer, in the transfer window, keeping their best stars and financially. - Zábava
Can we talk about winning the Premiership and the FA cup and the Carabao Cup. I supported throughout the Keegan years and we didn't talk about coming in the top 4 .- I want to hear our ambition. Ambition is real even if we get a few disappointing results.
Next season we can concentrate on the league & domestic cups. Gives us time to sort out the squad, strengthen & recover. Hopefully less injuries with less games. Can’t wait HOWAY THE LADS! 🖤🤍
need a good clear out and new players in otherwise will be the same again next season. in fact i think will be worse next season as top players will leave
We dont and cant rely on others. If we want to challengeing then we start to act like a big clubs. We have standards and we didnt live up to it. There will be consequences on not making to Europe. Especially on the transfer market. It was in our own hands and we bottled it. Injuries didnt help but most clubs had lots of injuries.
I said this after the Man U game that this season was largely a failure and even if we scraped into Europe I would view it as such.
Looking at things objectively compared to our stated objective and measures the club set and we as fans set for this season we have largely failed on all of them.
The consensus at the start seemed to be European qualification (top 6 or 7 was assumed), plus a cup final, and a good showing in the champions league. For me I wanted to see progression from the group stage.
Premier League has been a major drop off both in terms of points, position and performance. I can accept there being mitigating circumstances but a failure nonetheless and ultimately failed to deliver European qualification.
League cup = quarter final. That is a failure vs target
FA cup you can argue was our best performance considering the draw we got and comparing to previous seasons, but still not a final nor semi final. I'll say acceptable.
Champions League 4th place was in my view a failure especially given the hype we heaped upon ourselves , and certain journalists heaped upon us after PSG. We basically capitulated from a strong position and were shown to not have the quality of player nor tactics. I accept that we never really had a good chance given the injuries but still a failure vs objectives.
Ultimately this is a failure of a season. Not a waste by any means as it has highlighted a whole lot of learning that needs to be done, and investment needed. We're not as good as many of us thought we were and defensively we've been quite appalling.
If you ask Eddie Howe honestly so you really think he'd say that this was anything other than a disappointing failure of a season. He sets himself tough targets and doesn't shy away and make excuses when he doesn't hit them. We shouldn't either.
I feel this is a real test of the character and winning mentality of this club and the ownership. I'm not saying that Howe should be sacked, but both of the managers of the clubs that have bettered us this season in terms of European qualification (Chelsea via league, and Man U via the FA cup) have either been sacked already or are facing the sack because despite relative success compared to Newcastle, they have failed in eyes of their clubs and ownership. They strive for excellence and don't accept short comings. We apparently strive for excellence but do seem to be willing to accept short comings.
I've never been an Eddie Howe believer. Yes he did a very good job in the first 2 seasons but that was within his comfort zone when we were the unexpected underdogs beating the big boys. Now that we think we're good and the rest of the league take us seriously we get found out and Howe isn't able to adapt preemptively. The managers in this league are not mugs, they are very capable of looking at the Eddie Howe tactics and adapting to address them. Howe is NOT capable of adapting because he seems to think doing the same things again and again and again is the way to win.....Don't get me wrong, he's a very hard working guy but that doesn't translate to effective when the pressure ratchets up and he is in a situation he hasn't dealt with before. He's demonstrated that he can't handle Europe and he won't get the chance again next season.
Let's not forgot that the ownership's first choice was Emry, a serial proven winner. Howe was a gamble which initially looked to have paid off but has subsequently stagnated and cost us.
There are so many issues that can and should be put at the manager's door. Tactics, player selection, training and over training, injuries and miss management of injuries, and lack of ability to get it done in the games that really matter. He by his own admission can't and doesn't coach the defence, that's Mad Dog's job.....well what's being said to Mad Dog then? Is he under pressure for such a shambolic defensive season? Or is he getting off with it because he's Eddie's right hand man?
I also appreciate and agree with the view that Eddie has been here and made the same mistakes before at Bournemouth. He says he's learned but I don't see it. As soon as the league figured out his tactics at Bournemouth they were found out and he couldn't adapt.
I fully expect that the UK based ownership will feel that they need to give Eddie next season but I'm not quite so sure the Saudi ownership will be as forgiving. I think he'll just about keep his job but wouldn't be surprised to see him go. If he does keep his job and we don't come out flying next year I can see him gone by October
Why is he showing the conference pots?? We're not in it.
Eddie will have to push on next season and try and get us into a cup final and finish higher than this year pressure will be on him hopefully no injuries and not European football to jeopardise his chances
I have true faith but I just knew in the pit of me Geordie stomach we would get nought😢but silver lining to a bleak cloud…we can have a clear oot and reshape for another crack at CL🎉
Never assume, you assumed a Newcastle European entry, how did that work out? Why insist the same mistake? Games are played, any team on the field may have a chance.
I disagree with none of what you said Aaron 👍👏
What a mentality this fan base has playing in Europe is a distraction jesus christ
The short sighted ones, I for one would never think that, a lot of fans have a habit of talking themselves into accepting whatever results they got.
europe has not actually been finalised yet, man ure are in danger because nice in france have qualified for europe and ratarse is the owner of them also, chelsea could have ffp worries regarding their participation because eufa have different rules than the premier league so would have to name a mostly understrength squad so might do what ac milan did and drop out
Reaching for straws here.
@@bigpoppaharrylime5542 not reaching for anything just stating facts, certainly dont want conference league anyway
@@kevinhamilton1177 I think no europe is better than the conference leauge for you lot. Gives you time to rebuild.
@@bigpoppaharrylime5542 i agree but it all depends on who howe gets to sign and how much of the deadwood we can shift, howe was actually talking about giving some players contract extensions which is a joke so its a massive transfer window for our progression
@@kevinhamilton1177 do you think howe should stay as the manager?
I’m a man u fan and Ten Hag has been berated almost every day. I’ve heard nothing about Eddie Howe. What’s his situation like?
What do we do next season? Simple, we regroup and go again.
A domestic cup (dare we hope) and at least 6th in the league next season puts us right back on track.
100 percent No ..nedt season is now eddies first REAL season ....no europe ..full squad ..concentrate on the league and the FA cup...put the bairns out for the caribo ..howay!!
Why is NUFC now over run with Im the Privileged super fan and his Privilege is his failure to accept that he doesnt like what the big picture holds,,,, if he just opened his closed mind his Privileged eye sight will see what the unPrivileged will see in their big picture,,,,,,Success with Eddie Howe will surly arrive,,,,,unless you want see the Privilegeds success which has failure written al owa the back of their Privileged SJP seats,,,be very careful what you wish for because santa doesnt do a wish list for the spoilt Privileged Super Fanny,s in the summer time. So merry Christmas you lot and I hope pulling on your festive Knackahs wins you a paper red and white hat and a gazzoo full of seagull feathers.
Privelaged super fanny? What the hell are you talking about? Put down the drink pal you've had too much
I feel Sorry for Eddie I’m Right behind him I don’t want a foreign coach first language barrier and Amanda PIF said it was a Project they would grow the club in the right way and we are above schedule that’s down to Eddie .
He building a squad for not just now but the future I 100 back him he puts pressure on himself.🌑⚽️🖤🤍