Why is Mo Salah UNDERRATED?
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Do you think Salah is underrated? And if so, why?
The lack of respect towards Mo is shocking.
Media Bias against Liverpool
only underrated by people who don't know ball, one of the best to ever do it
Salah has freakish numbers of goals for the position he plays, but he plays that position in an odd way. He doesn't , or in the past hasn't linked the play or caused Liverpool to play incisive football. Give it to Salah and he will lose the ball 4 out of 5 times. The other time he'll score or assist. In spite of his amazing records, this takes away from how he is viewed. But when you take into account his work off the ball and his availability, he has to go down as one of the greats. On the ball, I just don't particularly like watching him play.
Look at last season - Saka is the saviour of football. Then you put his season; his BEST season, up against Mo last season. And Mo is well clear.
The disrespect is mindblowing to me. I want him to retire at Liverpool. I'd love it. He's nowhere near finished.
Plus he obviously loves this club gents. He could’ve forced a move and got 300million but he was loyal to the club. That’s something I really hope your fans will appreciate.
Hes gone next summer
If the owners offer him a similar contract to what he is on. He would take it to win trophies and break records. I think he will only be going because the owners accepting the offer
@@Luke-kj1rj that’s 155 million less for a years work. Why would anyone turn that down except for loyalty?
Salah is the face of Liverpool during this era.
Salah is seriously underrated. I have to admit I was guilty of that myself until a couple of years ago. Obviously he may not reach Rush's goal total but his scoring rate of goals per game is better. His contribution of goals and assists is amazing. He is seriously in the conversation for our best ever player and a very good case for being the best.
For me Gerrard, Dalglish and Salah are the top 3 and I would not argue much for who should take the top spot.
Great pts about the refs and their blatant Islamaophobia.
1 season wonder to one of our Greatest players. We will miss him when he is gone,
It's more to do with his looks being Arab/Asian especially in the UK. Their was alot discrimination towards them having careers in football
Only people with zero ball knowledge would ever describe him as underrated.
How articulate these two lads are, and how right!
So glad you done this podcast. Sad fact is his religion and where he comes from,has a lot to do with it. I'm from the same background, and I've supported Liverpool since 1982. For me to see Mo play for us is massive. I knew he weren't going nowhere, cos to him,his word means more than any money put in front of him. I hope he signs a contract and stays another 4 to 5 seasons. At the end of that, I think he would be only behind Rushie in the all time list. Also,not belittling Sir Roger Hunt for 1 second, but some of his goals were scored in the 2nd division for us. Mo is in every conversation when talking about all time LFC legends
I don't think his religion is the issue. Benzema is also from the same religion. I think race is the issue😢
Mo Salah is the greatest footballer i have ever seen in EPL. I have been watching EPL for the past over x30 years. 👌‼️
Salah is so complete - when he eventually loses pace he is dynamic enough to adapt. He would be the best 9 itw sitting there
Great video, lads. I'm 50. Been a Red all my life. There have been maybe 2 players at Salah's level, in my lifetime.
It's Kenny, Stevie and Mo (in no particular order) for me. I don't understamd the blindspot so many seem to have. The fact that Saka is the saviour of football - then you look at his best season against Salah's worst...it's not even close.
I've a n idea or two why but they're pretty incendiary so I'll keep.schtum.
Also - Good luck, Derek! Love from Belfast, mate!! YNWA.
Mo Salah is Exciting! & watching him on the attack is why I love to watch Liverpool play
That's the best description of him. He's definitely the most exciting and most entertaining footballer in the whole world for the seventh season running!
All the best Derek. Salah is without doubt one of our greats. Nobody's perfect and for those who complain, they will miss him when he goes. YNWA
Salah is the role model for footballers.... keep scoring goals, give best assist, loyal and perfect attitude. Even Messi and Ronaldo doesn't have the calm of Salah
He is criminally underrated. I want someone to think of the last time when a winger was the team's top goalscorer and top playmaker.
We need to savour the times with Mo, such a special player
Those who say sell Salah I don't think are true Liverpool supporters, other than Haaland there's no one better than Mo Salah in the PL, he's really underrated, maybe because his humble personality and not being cocky or his culture or where he came from has to do with that I really don't know but for me he's one of Liverpool legends, period!!
Mo Salah is criminally under rated. More appreciation couldn't go amiss. His physical condition and role as a example of a professional to the younger generations can't be ignored. He'll help Doak to no end.
You both are correct! As Mo goes we go. YNWA I think Mo will be here next year as well. He’s not ready to give up the stage.
Player's like Saka get so much praise. I do not want to take anything away from the lad, who is a wonderful player and will probably get even better. But absolutely everyone would agree that if only Arsenal had Salah last season instead of Saka, the Gunners would have won the EPL title last year 100%. Salah is that kind of player.
It might sound silly but it might be because he's an English player. At least, that's a pattern I always noticed with foreign players.
Saka can do much more than Salah. He can pass, he defends, he comes inside, plays multiple positions. Salah is great but a lot of people prefer more rounded players to pure specialists. No right or wrong answer to that either its just a personal preference.
@@sensibility1174Saka will never score anywhere close to thirty goals a season, let alone 44. He's a great player but he's not on Salah's level.
@@sensibility1174 Saying Saka is a better passer than Salah shows how much you know
@@sensibility1174 I agree Saka is better than Messi also because he defends and better all-rounder 🤡.
Brilliant guys ,, I love this player ..He is a pure talented legend
Saudi money could buy our Mo.
What a legend for saying no to that pay packet.
Cemented LEGEND
Well... It's not only Mohamed Salah, THIS VIDEO IS ACTUALLY UNDERRATED!! Massive props to both of you guys for sharing all these stats and logically ideas ♥
He’s got the 2nd best G+A per match in premier league history to Henry. He’s far ahead of any other Liverpool player, even Suarez. He’s at minimum in the category of Rush, Gerrard, and Dalglish. You could make the argument for our most talented player ever, different conversation to most accomplished.
Finally someone without bias. I couldn’t agree more
Mo is definitely top 5 in Liverpool history in terms of legacy, in terms of levels he is top 3 no doubt.
Good luck, Derek. may god be with you
He is underrated, he brings magic to the game & dropped loads of money to stay at the club.
He is underrated for several reasons, the club should at least give him the captain arms band
He is the most consistent available delivering player with minimum mistakes for the club the past 6 years.
He's not underestimated by proper football fans, he has the ability to evolve and is currently becoming like Daglish but quicker. He will get goals and create chances 4 others.
Agreed. Too many ignorant voices compare him directly to prime Messi, prime Ronaldo, or Haaland last season, and declare him overrated.
A 15 goal 5 assist forward or 5 goal 10 assist midfielder is the kind of player any top club would happily build a team around. In a "bad" year, Salah is much better than that, and in his "worst" years in the last 8 seasons, Liverpool bagged the PL trophy.
I understand there is some uncertainty due to age and the possibility of a monster purchase, but in terms of football his game is evolving. Over the last 4 seasons, he cuts in more and more to look for the cross. Also, with Szoboszlai at RM, he has a VERY fast partner to make overlapping runs while he cuts in. Considering that Salah is always drawing 2-3 defenders when he is near the box, that means that players like Dominic are going to be single covered.
Salah is looking like he could be a top 10 player in the PL in offensive contributions for a few more years -- he may age gracefully like Messi even if his peak was not at Lionel's level.
@@ComradeOgilvy1984 I don't know whether he is overrated or underrated but liverpool has many forwards now and will be fine without him.Many good forwards .Even Salah himself misses a lot of chances.But then he is allowed to do that and can get away with it because liv erpool are a big team that creates so many chances in a game
@@super_organist It is a odd criticism, because Salah's shot conversion rate is consistently quite good -- among the top 25% or so of PL forwards. A lot of very good forwards miss a greater portion of their chances.
Ii got my first season ticket in 1981 I saw 99 percent of Rushies games as I was going home and away the best compliment I can give Salah is I can't make my mind up who's the best I'd put them on an equal standing my first all time 11 would have them both in the side let's no argue who's better let's just love them both...
It is ridiculous how underrated Salah is. There is a MOTD African Top 10 podcast with Yaya Toure and Efan Ekoku as the main contributors. And neither of them had Salah in their top 3 African players of the PL era!!This is Salah who has 141 goals, 63 assists in 236 PL games compared to someone like Ronaldo who has 103 goals and 37 assists in same number of games.
Little bit of politics there, plenty of Africans see people of Arabic descent as not really African
@@sensibility1174 yes sir!! I met a couple from Angola in a bar here in Cairo 2 years ago, and the conversation somehow led to this point that "I don't consider NORTH AFRICA as Africans!" they literally said that and I had to laugh in their face for their logic.. It was hilarious and funny with all respect from our both sides 🤣
Good luck Derek..
All the best ..
God be with you 😊
Gents, I truly enjoyed this chat. I thought I was about to listen to some pros and cons debate, but I'm glad I was wrong. Your honest assessment of my countryman time at Anfield proves that football can still be worthwhile without the big bucks; that talented lads can be also good lads and have folks love them for what they are and what they do, not for how they show-off and brag. Muhammad Ali said that people always remember how you made them feel. Right? My countryman does more to help those in need, certainly more than the so-called government in Egypt does. Much more than any government does, for what matters. And you don't see it on social media because that's how much decent of a bloke he is. Football is just something he does. His support of those in need is his true calling. I only wish he could play at Anfield and stay in Liverpool for as long as possible because they deserve each other. My best wishes for the fellow who was due to surgery. May he recover and get well soon!
Hands down he is much better than the legends on that list, if any of them had the same starting point as Salah they would have never ever made that list, actually they would have been still playing at a middle of the table club in Egypt forgotten by history, retiring at 33.
Salah didn’t get molded at young age by coaching legend like Ronaldo in United, he was not put in a cocoon like Messi in Barcelona. He came from sleeping on the football grounds not having the money to stay somewhere else.
He was rejected by Egypt’s second best clubs because he was not good enough for them …not even the best club.
No language, no role model to follow their steps, no advantage whatsoever expect his perseverance.
What he is doing is beyond legendary he is mythical, he came from a very very very deep valley to the top of the summit.
Eventually his form will dip and the goals will decline and the chants will fade but many will still remember the time when the Egyptian king ruled Liverpool.
Good luck Derek
Dont forget the great image he has brought us in other parts of the world!
All you got to do watch how every players changed once Salas came in against Lask. He is a legend, lets appreciate what you got
Mo is one of the best players & human beings ever having played for Liverpool FC. The only reason he never got past Ronaldo & Messi is due to the fact his national side is not as good as theirs.
Gareth it is Sherif from Virginia, we met before in ANFIELD twice post game show, always liked your co-host as well. Agree completely with you guys a legend truly underrated. Can I have your address to send you some crisps from Idaho potato capital here. Coming to NC game 30/12 hope to see you then.
Well said ... Mo is the greatest..he is genious
And yes he is very underrated,he is one of the best in the world
Top Talk again! Keep going
Mo Salah's nationality is LFC, his new role as a play maker reflects him being mature enough, the same for Andy and Alisson they are the pillers of this team. The end of their career shall be at Anfield not saudi not elsewhere.
If anyone needs a laugh, listen 0.5x speed, next level, love the pod ❤
Thank you for saying this.
Good luck to Derek ❤
Please stay mo we love you ya special player you never get love apart from liverpool
Salah is a gifted player. A fearless worrier like courage. Non ending goal scoring hunger. A Gods like winger. And I can go on and on. You can't compare him with other players, because, every player is unique in their way of playing and approaching the game. You have to respect him as a player, well, since he is wearing the red shirt. In every generation of football players, there is always one unique player, Salah is one of those. It is always known, center forwards were always the one scoring goals, but with Salah being a winger, is rare. He is really under rated. By the way, Ian Rush is my all time favorite player, Billy Liddell was amazing. the best Liverpool team in the 80"s era if not all time.
First off the very best of luck to Derek...I think for a supposed one season wonder salah is proving to be an absolute stalwart for us...He's earned the right to be mentioned in the same breath as any of our club icon's, like Rushie Mo is justifiably an icon
And he will go down as one of the greatest, a lot of our greatest players have even said it and his numbers mean he'll never be ignored in that conversation
Messi and ronaldo raised the bar high for scoring goals/season.
Mo didn’t shy and with hard work he also proved that this bar could be reached and he did it times n times and got his game even better with those unreal assists.
I liked these gentlemen’s point about the stats guy who’s seeing records being broken. so by default you can’t replace a guy like that and start searching for someone to score goals! It’s not an easy task indeed no matter wat the ball f looked under his feet.
I remember nisterooy dribbling skills but who cares, he scored goals and ppl didn’t complain.
Mo’s football is very modern as it deals with stats cause it’s business after all and accomplished by fast pace attack and intelligently reading the field to predict empty spaces and clinically scoring goals.
Two factors his nationality and how easy he make things seem to be with his rather quiet celebration less emphasis is put on his efforts however saying all that it's our fan base that undermine him the most I tell you for my friends supporting other teams like Utd and Chelsea etc consider him the best RW in the Prem history while others see him as the best winger period with raving comments about his style of play and the redicolously high consistent productivity wether goals/assists which most of which are just a piece of absolute magic most of the times created out of nothing by his sheer genius..
Love this Pod, better than TAW!!
Great show fellas
Firstly we need to appreciate that in a time where players are taking big money moves, he is still with us... this shows that when he says he loves it here.. he does and his family must love it aswell.
Secondly, I think there is much more to come from him... he is slowly evolving similar to what Messi began to do when the pace dropped off a bit, he became more of a playmaker rather than an out and out wing menace.. I want Salah around as long as he he is happy to be here... I would love to see him stay around so long he becomes the new Milner for the young ones.
I think if the owners offer him another 4/5 years he would take it with open arms. I think he wants to break more records
My opinion, its easy to score back then 70s or 80s during liverpool dominated england football. Salah is our legend and up there no doubt about it.
Good luck Derek! Hope to hear some good news about you soon
Salah is already a Liverpool Great and will go down in top 5 of all time PL Greats. Period
Best of luck Derek☘️🙏☘️
We got used to unsuccessful and pessimistic period for Liverpool before Klopp, it was hard to imagine god like in our team and the time has not passed yet to fully appreciate Mo and put him next to legends. and no one he has been second to.
Best of luck to Derek, wishing you a speedy recovery
Love salah goat
Salah is a great footballer as well as a nice person 👍👍👍👏👏👏🥰🥰
Good luck Derek lad. YNWA
Good luck Derek 👍 ❤
Agree About the look analogy, Szobo is the perfect example. He is great no doubt. But the way people are talking about him, I am certain if he retains his skillset as a footballer whilst looking average, people wouldn’t be clamouring on him as much as we are doing right now.
The same can be said when I retrospect myself and how I view doak. No doubt he is a good footballer. Yet everytime i look at his face, I cannot seem to accept that he will be an exceptional footballer.
Linekar, Shearer and Richards have had exactly the same debate.
ESPN continously bracket him as one of the worlds best, and sometimes, the best.
The Athletic podcast often refers to him as one of the true greats.
So overall he probably isnt underrated. What he isnt is adored and idolised (in the UK at least) in the same way as Thiery Henry was, for example.
In my time, Owen, Alonso, even Gerrard was underrated too until we nearly lost them or look back. A bird in the hand and all that. The real underrated conversation should be about Alisson. He's our best ever goalkeeper
Absolutely. I always have said recently that Alisson is seriously overlooked by the football community. You can see the current Ballon D'or rankings which are anyways stupid especially ever since it has an evidence backed bias for Messi and against Ronaldo by some journalists admittance themselves. Although I disagree with the guy in the video saying Salah's ability is Ronaldo and Messi level. No one in this generation is anywhere close to them. He is though with Lewandowski's level and imo even above him.
People talk about Alisson being one of the best and great and all. But in overall gameplay, I would put him to be THE best goalkeeper of the world arguably and maybe only Neuer and few others have been arguably above him in recent years.
3 goals against in 4 fixtures, and that includes two Trent gaffs and two red cards. For all that they looked wobbly against Chelsea at times, so far the defense is in nearly title winning form. Allison 'effin Becker. He could have let in 3 more goals and nobody would have criticized.
Agreed, he carries on many many occasions I would put him right at the top of most consistently brilliant.
@@_sayan_roy_ Yeah pity the Ballon D'or is weighted in favour of attacking players and trophies won, means the defensive players.. that are having a great season despite the rest of their team not pulling their weight and ultimately winning nothing get overlooked.
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Good luck Derek!
Great show again! Salah is a one-off total legend, and I pray he stays for another 3 years before he lights up the Saudi League.
Thanks lads. Does my head in that Mo isn’t respected by some of our own fans. Take Salah out of the side and we’d have won fuck all in the last 6/7 years.
Good luck Derek ❤
Sarah is in the top 5 players to ever play for Liverpool FC.
All the best Derek, get back on your feet soon fella. 👍
So many top players go for money these days ( not that Mo gets small paycheck) him staying over becoming the highest paid player ever and not forcing the move should put him up there with the legends for that alone. Look at Jordan, ran there at the first whistle. The captain him self! He could have stayed and be a part of the team even after retirement. But 💰 is more important, at least to him.
Good luck Derek, YNWA❤
Every week he is playing in the toughest quickest League in the World, more so than Messi & Naymar.
To each his own
I think part of the reason he's still underrated is because of his nationality, And before anyone starts no I don't think it's anything to do with racism or skin colour.. I think if he was european or any other fancier nationality from south America he'd be held in higher regard. Seems be a common trend, other African players such as Mane who was always undervalued by the general media, even the likes of Eto and Drogba are.
The African and ME players are a little less tuned into the European style game than the locals or most South American players do. What this means is most do not know how to decide very early and very quickly to go down soft like every English forward will. They get called divers literally because they are less quick to go down and fight to stay on their feet longer.
Anyone who says he should go next summer, why? he's still in early 30's, if the club kept gerrard and milner and they were fanatsic till mid 30's then why shouldn't that be the case for salah too?
why do people assume that someone is gonna decline once they hit 30 when clearly there are many evidence and players who gone on to win ballon d'ors in their 30's
is it a way to cope if the player has offers?
like come on, that kinda talk starts from 35 or older
messi is winning ballon d'ors in his 30's and maybe is gonna win another one at 36
benzema won one at like 34
ronaldo won a couple after 30
lewa was delivering ballon d'or worthy performances in 2020 and 2021 in his thirties
as a matter of fact the latest ballon d'ors winners have all been well over 30
so if anything, a player prime sometimes can start or continue in his 30s
Good luck Derek 👍
Why I think Salah is underrated :
1. He is not English
2. He is not White
3. He is not from a "footballing" country
* if he was any of the above, we'd be having statues of him
1. He has an impeccable character - rarely do you see him have a go at the ref
2. His records are nothing less then incredible & and he keeps breaking them
3. He is a consumate professional
4. He really should have got a Ballon D'or
5, Produces moments of magic at any time in the game
6. He is a Muslim / Glboal icon - and the man is incredibly grounded
7. Consistency is his middle name (even when the rest are wilting).
Our refs are rotten, they do not provide him with the protection he deserves
(I mean Kane produces a red card tackle and gets away with it)
The amount of fouls on Salah and the ref fail and do not see it.
Given where he's come from and the sheer determination it has taken to get where he is that is nothing less then amazing.
I love Liverpool fans and have named him The Egypian King (we've known his greatness since he joined us).
We need to extend his contract and IF they choose to sell him NEXT or following Season - we can get 300mil and that is not asking for too much!
He is a unique and rare gem for us to keep!
Hope all’s well with your dad!!
Nice TShirt Gareth
Luckily the owners showed more sense than the fans who denigrate them, and kept Salah. Given his continued excellence and fitness he could easily sign another three year contract.
He is the best player now
Good luck, Derrick
You guys are spot on! You are both awesome.
Lads, please start an LFC channel. Do what's right. Love from Cymru
Only miss what you got when it's gone
When I saw the goals numbers you posted and saw Rush with 346 goals, I wondered of the level of expertise the competing teams at that time had the same competitiveness levels we have today - it's like spitfire competing with F22 - the scale needs to be somewhat similar or close to make the comparison.
Also, I HEAT people that rooted for Mo in his 18/19 season, and now spiting from their mouth condemnations agenest him just because he is not scoring as much as before - If one just looks at his team contributions, you will find Mo's performance getting the ball, maneuver it and pass it at the right time and place to make the score is phenomenal. ANY true fan would measure success from a TEAM performance and not one individual, let that be the coach's role.
Lastly, just imagine Liverpool without Mo then let us see how the SAME people talking agenest hi reacts... case closed.
As you say, It's just expectation. Success breeds a demand for more and I suppose that's what drives clubs forward in many respects. It can be negative but think of Madrid; their supporters don't accept defeat at all so they keep those standards at the level they should be
Top class as usual lads and miles ahead of redmen tv in terms of quality/likeability
I've got a feeling that he's gonna extend his contract and stay longer cos I think he likes what he sees and he looks like he's enjoying being the provider for these lads and getting his own goals as well, I hope im right
The Egyptian King, football is in his veins.
Finally, someone makes sense. Everyone heard 200 million and lost their marbles..
If Salah was English or Brazilian people would be putting him in the goat conversations. He will go down as one of the most underrated players to ever grace the Prem.
SalahPool
Look at his goals and assists together
Put a list together and compare
As professional as he is talented.
Best of luck Derek❤ just lie back and relax as best as you can and let the Pro's do their great work been there that's what I done and it,s worked out boss YNWA
Salah can compare to ANY liverpool attacker of years gone by
And his goals to games ratio is phenomenal
Klopp is in the top four managers of all time for Liverpool FC
He’s the best forward itl imo in the world .
Goals. Assist runs games