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  • The Big Picture: On the Origins of Life, Meaning, and the Universe Itself.
    Already internationally acclaimed for his notions in modern physics, Sean Carroll is one of the greatest humanist thinkers of his generation as he brings extraordinary intellect to our deepest personal questions. Where are we? Who are we? Are our emotions, beliefs, hopes and dreams ultimately meaningless in the void? Does human purpose and meaning fit into a scientific worldview? Carroll's presentation of the scientific revolution from Darwin and Einstein to the origins of life, consciousness, and the universe is unique. He shows how an avalanche of discoveries in the past few hundred years has changed our world and what really matters to us.
    “Weaving the threads of astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, and philosophy into a seamless narrative tapestry, Sean Carroll enthralls us with what we’ve figured out in the universe and humbles us with what we don’t yet understand. Yet in the end, it’s the meaning of it all that feeds your soul of curiosity.”
    -Neil deGrasse Tyson, host of Cosmos: A SpaceTime Odyssey
    Carroll is a theoretical physicist at the CalTech and received his PhD from Harvard. Recently, he has worked on the foundations of quantum mechanics, the arrow of time, and the emergence of complexity. He has earned prizes and fellowships by the NSA, NASA, Sloan Foundation, Packard Foundation, American Physical Society, American Institute of Physics, Royal Society of London, and the Freedom from Religion Foundation. Carroll has appeared on The Colbert Report, PBS’s NOVA, and Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman, and serves as a science consultant for film and TV. He has been interviewed by NPR, Scientific American, Wired, and The NYT, and has given a TED talk on the multiverse that has more than 1M views.
    This Talk at Google talk was hosted by Boris Debic.
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  • @acerovalderas
    @acerovalderas Před 3 lety +16

    Sean Carroll seems to me to be one of the best popularizers of physics, cosmology and philosophy. He is aware of what is difficult and takes the time to explain it.

  • @BakerWase
    @BakerWase Před 7 lety +135

    Sean Carroll is a beacon of clarity and truth. Thank you good sir!

    • @glutinousmaximus
      @glutinousmaximus Před 7 lety +2

      Revelations - _The Missing Page_
      Lo - the five horsemen of the Apocalypse managed at last to ride out together: Pestilence, War, Death, Famine and Rape. Rape was looking particularly pale and peaky. 'Are you all up for this?' boomed Death. War muttered that he was very busy in the middle east and world capitals right now and could hardly spare the time. Pestilence pleaded that he was busy creating a new ebola-like plague in California. Famine said it was not very convenient as it was time for his non-lunch break. Rape just rolled up his eyes and fell off his horse...

    • @BakerWase
      @BakerWase Před 7 lety +1

      Adam Mangler Its actually just a play on the four horsemen of new atheism, but nice poem!

    • @glutinousmaximus
      @glutinousmaximus Před 7 lety +1

      Thanks - I thought you might appreciate it!
      *_:0)_*

    • @gerrybutler3028
      @gerrybutler3028 Před 7 lety +1

      A couple things about Sean Carroll.
      First, he has given the game away. What is the
      purpose of the multiverse argument? Certainly not legitimate science. No
      it is an admission that the fine tuning argument is devastating. There
      is no answer to it but absurdity. The multiverse must be infinite to have any traction as a reason for our universe or else it to had a beginning without a cause and only limited possibilities for what is possible. And once it is
      infinite, then there is no universe that is off the table of possibilities including an infinite number that are very similar to ours. So there are two headed cows and an infinite number of Judeo/Christian Gods or whatever else one can think of.
      Second, Sean Carroll is not a nice person. We tend
      to get persuaded by appearances. We should pay more attention to
      behavior. I posted a comment about Carroll almost 3 years ago which
      shocked Sal Cordova who was defending him as a reasonable person. Here
      is my comment from then:
      Sean Carroll is intellectually dishonest, a bully
      and a coward. A few years ago there was a discussion by John McWhorter
      with Michael Behe on Blogging heads. Carroll went ballistic and
      essentially told Blogging Heads he would organize a boycott of the site
      if they ever did anything like it again. McWhorter was forced to
      apologize for talking with Behe.
      Carroll is one of those guys who hides behind a nice smile and polite
      personality but will use his minions to silence anything he is opposed
      to. Remind you of anyone else in this world?
      I am very familiar with Carroll, having purchased
      his course from the Teaching Company on Dark Matter and Dark Energy and
      bought his book on the nature of time. He is a pleasant lecturer but his
      other behavior indicates what he is really like.

    • @glutinousmaximus
      @glutinousmaximus Před 7 lety +3

      I'm currently compiling fiction. Can I buy the rights to your mails? You'll get a good price.

  • @MarrowEternal
    @MarrowEternal Před 7 lety +18

    Sean is so much more refreshing to listen to than Neil degrasse Tyson. He's humble and doesn't have that heir of self-aggrandizement. He simply wants to teach and he is clearly passionate about education.

  • @LoressaClisby
    @LoressaClisby Před 4 lety +7

    An outstanding talk. Carroll is one of the best science communicators since Carl Sagan.

  • @manuellopez1956
    @manuellopez1956 Před 7 lety +46

    This is one of the best explanations I've ever heard for how the Universe works. It should be inserted into every high-school syllabus.

    • @bobaldo2339
      @bobaldo2339 Před 5 lety +2

      In particular, the distinction between low vs high entropy, on the one hand, and simple vs complex, on the other, was made clear.

    • @johnrhoades4366
      @johnrhoades4366 Před 5 lety

      Bifcake

  • @MARKCREEKWATER1
    @MARKCREEKWATER1 Před 6 lety +43

    I like this guy: he talks like a real human, without a lot of incomprehensible jargon !!

    • @davidfell5496
      @davidfell5496 Před 4 lety +2

      Agreed - his talks are very approachable. The Royal Institution and Darwin Lectures talks are equally good. The RI talk is from 2020 (this year as I type) and he starts talking about ideas on unification at the end - and it seems maybe plausible!

    • @StrawberrySoul77
      @StrawberrySoul77 Před 2 lety +1

      @@davidfell5496 what do you mean by unification at the end? Is it that the universe expands from a certain point, then collapses back to that point?

    • @davidfell5496
      @davidfell5496 Před 2 lety

      @@StrawberrySoul77 Unification of quantum and gravity stuff. At the end just meant towards the end of the video, as opposed to the end of the Universe etc.

  • @Dr10Jeeps
    @Dr10Jeeps Před 5 lety +6

    I love listening to this man speak. He's clear and informative. Thank you Dr. Carroll.

    • @markanthonyk1504
      @markanthonyk1504 Před 4 lety

      Dr10Jeeps he’s not a doctor fool

    • @Dr10Jeeps
      @Dr10Jeeps Před 4 lety

      @@markanthonyk1504 Well aren't you the complete fucking moron! Of course he's a doctor. Carroll received his Ph.D. in astronomy in 1993 from Harvard University.

  • @jorgecastro5834
    @jorgecastro5834 Před 5 lety +4

    Sean Carroll does a great job of showing that particle physics is not incompatible but rather implies the possibility of human scale concepts, such as cause and effect, human thought, and morality. To the best of my knowledge the first person to do that magnificently was David Deutsch. I therefore recommend his books too.

  • @BrandonMather8
    @BrandonMather8 Před 8 lety +375

    CZcams comment sections: The only place where centuries of scientific progress are "refuted" by a few sentences.

    • @patbrennan6572
      @patbrennan6572 Před 7 lety +11

      star trek theory, gods priests have already reamed their holes..

    • @bobaldo2339
      @bobaldo2339 Před 7 lety +3

      Well stated, Brendon!

    • @micahnewman
      @micahnewman Před 6 lety

      Please distinguish between "amoral" and "nonmoral."

    • @purplemonkeydishwasher9818
      @purplemonkeydishwasher9818 Před 6 lety +3

      And the only place where centuries of scientific progress refuted in a few sentences is refuted in but one sentence

    • @silkyjohnson745
      @silkyjohnson745 Před 6 lety

      wtf dude TL;DR

  • @7775Kevin
    @7775Kevin Před 2 měsíci

    He is a great communicator. Very clear and concise. I enjoyed this talk.

  • @rutmm
    @rutmm Před 5 lety

    The only lecturer/public speaker on CZcams who never says, 'um'. He is great.

  • @amiralozse1781
    @amiralozse1781 Před 6 lety +14

    What a great talk!
    Sean Carrol truly deserves sitting at Feynmans desk!

    • @Keithlfpieterse
      @Keithlfpieterse Před 5 lety

      Amira Lozse: I beg to differ. Feynman was in a class of his own!

  • @dsinghr
    @dsinghr Před 8 lety +26

    he is a great speaker

  • @takefivepaullucido
    @takefivepaullucido Před 5 lety +1

    Once again, Sean Carroll delivers his thoughts with clarity in comprehensible terms making it accessible for many of us to grasp. Great ambassador!

    • @trustinjesus1119
      @trustinjesus1119 Před 4 lety

      You have religious belief, I don't. = Freedom From Religion (or so the adherent to their religious belief states). This position is indefensible in the light of religious congress. Opting out with "Continuing the discussion, I don't have any answers" is the coward departing the battlefield before the war has begun.

    • @tisajokt7676
      @tisajokt7676 Před 4 lety

      @@trustinjesus1119 wot

    • @trustinjesus1119
      @trustinjesus1119 Před 4 lety

      @@tisajokt7676 You have to be more specific.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas Před 2 lety

      @@trustinjesus1119 i wonder if anyone cares what you think.

  • @japeking1
    @japeking1 Před 6 lety +3

    I've heard a lot of great lectures...this is the best ever. Thank you.

  • @joycemesa4539
    @joycemesa4539 Před 7 lety +20

    Sean Carroll is a brilliant physicist. As a future physicist he's my role model.

    • @katiekat4457
      @katiekat4457 Před 6 lety +1

      Jebuscristo if your a future physicist, don't have a role model per se. Go in thinking that you are just going to be yourself and do your own thing and not emulate anybody. We need physicists that think independently and differently than other physicist so we can advance. Be you and maybe you will be the next Einstein or Witten.

    • @drServitis
      @drServitis Před 5 lety +2

      I will never have a chance of being a physicist and he's my role model.

    • @sciencecompliance235
      @sciencecompliance235 Před 4 lety

      You should call yourself an "aspiring physicist" in compliance with the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Best of luck to you, though.

  • @georgepaul5843
    @georgepaul5843 Před 3 lety +1

    Marvelous gifted speaker totally organized with vast knowledge in many fields.

  • @ScrewDriverxxx
    @ScrewDriverxxx Před 6 lety +13

    Just wow. Not only an extraordinarily lucid, compelling description of "everything" but fantastic entertainment too. I was not expecting genuine laugh out loud moments to pop up in such a weighty subject. Awesome. I think I may be a fan...

  • @ashleytsuigamer
    @ashleytsuigamer Před 4 lety

    So many thought provoking points I needed to stop and rewind and rewatch many times to understand what he meant. I'll have to revisit what he said many more times and look into his other lectures!

  • @Curiousgeorge78398
    @Curiousgeorge78398 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you excellent lecture. I am reading Sean Carroll’s book now and I’m finding it exhilarating!

  • @shirleymason7697
    @shirleymason7697 Před 7 lety

    Thank you. Keep us informed. Us, the general public, that is.

  • @e.l.r.e.b.e.l.d.e.g.8426
    @e.l.r.e.b.e.l.d.e.g.8426 Před 8 lety +12

    ...the purpose of life ;) 34:44 and it's OK to say we do not know, science is awesome!

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas Před 2 lety

      the purpose of life is to leave the place tidier than you found it.

    • @ivanbigcock426
      @ivanbigcock426 Před 2 lety

      @@HarryNicNicholas
      No it isn't.

  • @jrrtt25
    @jrrtt25 Před 7 lety +1

    that last line though! "Space is just a good approximation of a low energy state." I'm going to be thinking of that and running thought experiments all week

    • @Kavetrol
      @Kavetrol Před 7 lety +1

      I will be thinking of that whenever I have to walk somewhere on empty stomach.

  • @420MusicFiend
    @420MusicFiend Před 7 lety

    Amazing talk! Cannot wait to pick up your new book. Particle at the end of the universe was such a great read and this talk has me pumped to run to the bookstore and grab it asap haha Q&A at the end was really interesting.

  • @TheKoelnKalk
    @TheKoelnKalk Před 7 lety +5

    I wanted to book that guy for my son's 6th birthday.

  • @kpwillson
    @kpwillson Před rokem

    Sean's book by the same title is, in my opinion, a major step forward for Atheism in the modern world. Atheism and Naturalism have always been challenged by the fact that our "theology" is in many ways trapped inside dense scientific literature. Sean explains our scientifically constructed picture of reality in an approachable way and synthesizes it with our 21st century morals. Poetic Naturalism is the future.

  • @MikeEnRegalia
    @MikeEnRegalia Před 8 lety +43

    The usual problem with Google talks: they're edited so that the slides are always only visible for a nanosecond.

    • @Uhmu
      @Uhmu Před 8 lety +1

      It is cost cutting measure because of the Oracle lawsuit, kind of annoying but you can always pause the video at the slides.

    • @MikeEnRegalia
      @MikeEnRegalia Před 8 lety +3

      Uhmu Unfortunately the presenter keeps talking about the slide ... they are meant to be viewed with the explanations.
      LOL regarding the lawsuit remark. I guess that rules out a split screen view with the presenter in a small section of the screen and the presentation visible all the time. I get it, Google is a small start-up company, nobody could expect such cutting edge technology.

    • @Uhmu
      @Uhmu Před 8 lety +4

      In fairness to google, if they still were a small start up, the split screen solution would have been implemented ages ago within a week.
      From their point of view, we are just entitled brats complaining about an excellent free public service xD

    • @MikeEnRegalia
      @MikeEnRegalia Před 8 lety +1

      +Uhmu it's been like this for years. Apparently nobody cares, or their goal is to make the talks unwatchable. I'm really surprised that they allow comments and ratings now ... who knows, they might listen to feedback next.
      Btw: look for "poetic naturalism" ... a much better version of this talk, recorded at Oxford a couple of years ago.
      EDIT: I mean better in terms of editing ... the content itself is a little bit better here, Sean added a few bits since the early versions.

    • @Uhmu
      @Uhmu Před 8 lety

      Thanks, will do.

  • @Tridhos
    @Tridhos Před 7 lety

    Always worth listening to Sean Carroll, thanks for posting this video.

  • @restybal
    @restybal Před 7 lety +6

    An amazing talk.

  • @jackiereynolds2888
    @jackiereynolds2888 Před 2 lety

    Sean, - I have a thousand questions to your talk - any one of which no doubt would generate at least a thousand more ! ! !
    But YOU DID answer one I have had for some time, -
    " Just what or why is it that philosophers and physicists are just never able to ever get along " ???
    Sean I think that you pretty much spell-that-out as well as anyone I have heard in twenty years !
    Physics and Philosophy just strike me as one on-going hellacious marriage;
    But the sex is just so great !
    A truly fantastic talk 👍

    • @schmetterling4477
      @schmetterling4477 Před rokem

      Philosophy is bullshit since 500BC. You can easily see this in the fact that most major Greek philosophers seem to have thought that slavery was natural.

  • @DanielBrownsan
    @DanielBrownsan Před 7 lety +66

    Any time I'm feeling smart, I watch 5 minutes of Sean Carroll and then I do not feel smart. Sorry, me no feel smart.

    • @diyandimitrov3724
      @diyandimitrov3724 Před 7 lety +1

      Same with me, Daniel. :-) But, coming to that conclusion makes me happy, makes me feel good about myself, as I find that I'm capable of suppressing my ego to an extend, that allows me to learn further. And that's great fun :-))And, as I'm not the only one of that species, that makes me feel even happier. Sean Carrol, the Happy-Maker :-))))

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 Před 7 lety

      Modern physics cannot define space, time, mass, charge etc., yet mathematics enables us to figure out the puzzles of QM, GR, emergent and complexity etc., and enables us to 'understand the mind of the Intelligent Designer who invented Mathematics'.

    • @manuelricardogarcia
      @manuelricardogarcia Před 7 lety +3

      Sure buddy, at least the last century modern physics cannot explain reality in a satisfactory manner according to you, but you KNOW that your imaginary friend did it all, without anyone creating him, and withou leaving any trace of his involvement or his supposed ultimate knowledge? hahaha publish it and earn several Nobel prizes, but that's not going to happen anytime soon, is it?

    • @DanielBrownsan
      @DanielBrownsan Před 7 lety +3

      Naimul Haq Modern physics can't "define" our reasons for being here (nor explain our presumption that there needs to be one) so I'll invent a sky fairy and be fine with that answer. My neighbor's 4-year-old daughter believes in fairies too.

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 Před 7 lety

      Daniel Brown
      The reason for us to be here is proved, verified and observed. The Standard Model proves how fine tuning of the parameter space, created the self-organizing property of matter, which in turn delivered life and consciousness, although we do not know how FT occurred.
      Consciousness can take our thoughts outside our universe, like ID, and the neighbor's 4-year-old daughter.
      Hope you are a science guy.

  • @svendengen
    @svendengen Před 6 lety +5

    Sean Carroll for president 🤘

  • @1iunie2012
    @1iunie2012 Před 6 lety +1

    Sir, at 17:06 you showed us an equation that does not have purposes, causes, meanings, judgments. How would an equation look like that has purposes etc. Can you give us an example? Thanks

  • @WeeWeeJumbo
    @WeeWeeJumbo Před 7 lety

    _Listening to the Great Teacher_

  • @LIQUIDSNAKEz28
    @LIQUIDSNAKEz28 Před 8 lety +39

    20:00 FINALLY, someone well respected fucking said it!

    • @kimrunic5874
      @kimrunic5874 Před 7 lety +6

      'it's a wave - that's what it is.'

    • @lettersquash
      @lettersquash Před 7 lety +3

      I didn't understand that point, although it feels really important to have some basic grasp of it. Can someone link to (or provide) a good explanation please, and why he and others routinely describe the universe as made of particles? It seems crazy that most people with a lay understanding of physics either think it's all particles or wave-particle duality, and they're both wrong.

    • @LIQUIDSNAKEz28
      @LIQUIDSNAKEz28 Před 7 lety +13

      lettersquash In a sense it's both. He described perfectly well in another lecture where he talked about how the universe and everything in it is really made of FIELDS. Fields are constantly fluctuating, creating waves, waves are comprised of crests and troughs. We call the crests, "particles."
      In other words, saying that the universe is made of particles is kind of like saying the ocean is made of droplets, which in a sense is true, but describing the ocean in terms of waves and fields make a lot more sense.

    • @kimrunic5874
      @kimrunic5874 Před 7 lety +4

      LIQUIDSNAKEz28 uh - no. Something has to happen before the 'crests and troughs' render into what we recognise as matter. What comprises a droplet of water is the same 'stuff' that constitutes an ocean. Not true with with the wave function of a particle. Prior to collapse, the particle simply cannot be said to exist.

    • @thaGkillah
      @thaGkillah Před 7 lety +1

      Liquid? or is it Master!!? Master... it's you.
      Man MGS was so good in the past

  • @MARKCREEKWATER1
    @MARKCREEKWATER1 Před 6 lety

    I just learned something new today, from the schematic diagram @ 32:30 ... an interesting concept, and easy to understand.

  • @errmoc5682
    @errmoc5682 Před 8 lety

    Enjoyable lecture. I wish our educational system did a better job of matching students and teachers together based on what they are passionate and interested in at all levels of school

    • @Raison_d-etre
      @Raison_d-etre Před 8 lety

      You're not doing your job if as a teacher you don't try to introduce new topics to your students, ones that they may not be interested in at first.

  • @TheBruces56
    @TheBruces56 Před 5 lety +1

    There is a theory that our essence or "consciousness" comes from outside our physical reality with our brain acting as an antenna of sorts. When you die the receiver no longer works but the source of your ( self, animas, soul, consciousness etc) continues.

  • @marcioamaral7511
    @marcioamaral7511 Před 6 lety

    Amazing
    some real knowledge !

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Před rokem

    Watched at least twice before, watched twice again, because I play it while working, 1:02:46

  • @NalitaQubit
    @NalitaQubit Před rokem

    I LOVE Sean Carol!!

  • @attilaszabo8605
    @attilaszabo8605 Před 7 lety

    Sean Caroll is great and I wish I were half as clear and to the point as him. Giraffes do not have long necks to be able to reach 'those leaves' though as the majority of their norishment do not come from leaves of tall trees. They have long necks because of their combat techniques called 'necking'.

  • @eupraxis1
    @eupraxis1 Před 7 lety +2

    wonderful. literally.

  • @macabnerolivar7366
    @macabnerolivar7366 Před 5 lety +2

    Well said in a real layman's terms. I now understand more clearly this world and the nature of the universe than to the other speakers and physicists. Thanks for this upload.

  • @climbeverest
    @climbeverest Před 6 lety +1

    Sean Carroll is fun to listen to

  • @Doge00
    @Doge00 Před 2 lety

    *Very good explanation, I think consciousness should be added here, how 5 sense organs combine to produce consciousness to survive from Predators, and how humans after ensuring survival developed intelligence*

  • @dimitriedgarmetz3147
    @dimitriedgarmetz3147 Před 5 lety

    Regarding the initial story about the 2003 law case against Lucia the Berk; there is no jury system in Dutch law cases as Sean Carroll suggested.
    A single judge decides in the Netherlands whether to convict the suspect or not.
    In this case the innocent woman was in prison for 6 and a half years, before finally pleaded innocent.

  • @brian_mcnulty
    @brian_mcnulty Před 5 lety

    are the numbers of arrangements synonymous with the number of micro states as described in Chemistry courses?

  • @TheRobdarling
    @TheRobdarling Před 4 lety

    I looked on your website for the t-shirt and I can't find it Sean. I'd sure like one...

  • @cferrarini
    @cferrarini Před 4 lety +1

    The truth is that time does not really exist, only movement.

  • @MikeLisanke
    @MikeLisanke Před 7 lety

    how does the new form of light which interacts with electrons differently (statically orbiting) affect Sean Carroll's assertion that we've discovered all the particles of everyday life we're going to discover?

  • @xit1254
    @xit1254 Před 6 lety

    Wow! So interesting!

  • @TheEpicmonday
    @TheEpicmonday Před 7 lety +1

    The big missing piece in this argument is the same one we very often see missing in intellectual presentations : Nothing is said about our personal relations with the concepts used and the great differences in the meanings of the same concepts depending on who uses it and how and when and where ( conceptual relativity ).
    Instead there is this strange pretense that we have a pretty clear common idea of what we mean when we use the expression : "..."
    He uses several symbols expressed in language : "the world"..."atoms"..."quarks"..."electrons"..."nuclear force"..."neutrino"..."electro magnetism"..."photons"..."background higgs field"..."gravity"..."quantum mechanics"..."matter"..."spacetime"..."particle"..."cause and effect"..."description"...
    What he ignores is that all of these are only symbolic information expressions. The meaning we give to them are based on subjectively experienced reality. Like all information they are finite ways we interpret impressions from life and they are in fact understood differently by different people on different occations. They are informational interpretations of patterns we observe in events. They can all be replaced by an infinity of alternative interpretations.
    This is an incredibly important point to remember as long as all of this explaining by means of vague subjective concepts takes place right within the same moving reality where we are incapable of seeing whatever exists beyond our horizon of available data.
    This talk illustrates well a typical kind of "intellectual blindness" which is still very common in our modern age : The tendency to confuse the description ( as understood by the mind of the subject brain BEING USED BY this description ) with the reality beyond this description ( Invisible and unimaginable to the subject brain which acts on limited information ).
    Said in a different way : The tendency to interpret reality FROM INSIDE A CONCEPT without consideration of the larger and invisible event space beyond this event-of-conceptualization.
    Conceptual relativity is the big blindspot of academic intellectual thinking.

    • @julianayala03
      @julianayala03 Před 7 lety

      Please provide the specification for what an "event space" is. What are the rules for "event spaces"? And where does your idea of "event space" reveal itself in reality that is objectively identifiable?

  • @bryantav6843
    @bryantav6843 Před 3 lety +1

    Interesting stuff here. This man is more of a contemporary philosopher for intellectuals which is what we call a "Physicist". Primarily because he's informing individuals & shifting their fundamental axiomatic presuppositions which their interpretive framework rests its fundamental perceptions. Essentially he's causing a paradigm shift & altering the framework by which people perceive the world subconsciously. Interesting stuff. Much much different than what you would get from say Jordan Peterson or Joe rogan or Jocko willink , Dave Ruben , Etc...

    • @bryantav6843
      @bryantav6843 Před 3 lety

      The fundamental Presuppositions are interesting. Dull yet clarifying.

    • @StrawberrySoul77
      @StrawberrySoul77 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, he wields much power as he becomes better known and influential. Hopefully, it is for the benefit for us and our realm as the ones who’ve controlled the paradigms of late are insane and controlling and mean. Speaking to employees at Google makes me question what side he’s on.

  • @eklim2034
    @eklim2034 Před 4 lety

    I watched this lecture from my lower to higher enthropy

  • @Russ442100
    @Russ442100 Před 5 lety +1

    Sean Carroll and Lawrence Krauss are just the best. Gottainclude Alan Guth ... er can't leave out Susskind or; Sussybaby (you had to be there) as well as Dr Sheldon cooper.

  • @mellowfellow6816
    @mellowfellow6816 Před 7 lety +20

    "Zeptosecond" That sounds pretty fast.

    • @saultube44
      @saultube44 Před 7 lety +1

      10^-21
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zepto- www.simetric.co.uk/siprefix.htm

    • @billkeon880
      @billkeon880 Před 7 lety +7

      It's the lesser known Marx Brother. That's how long his career lasted

  • @VfletchS
    @VfletchS Před 6 lety

    That was awesome.

  • @dylan3657
    @dylan3657 Před 7 lety +2

    I'm 50 mins in is Excellent

  • @beksinski
    @beksinski Před 6 lety

    See you in Portland february 22!

  • @twstdelf
    @twstdelf Před 7 lety

    Awesome.

  • @filthyfilter2798
    @filthyfilter2798 Před 5 lety +1

    hahahahahaha 4 min i am already laughing with his thought sequence which is amazing!
    We need to blame someone :'D

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 Před rokem

    I'm currently running an experiment that aims at proving entropy can lower spontaneously. The experiment might not run for the time I intended because people have started bugging me really hard to tidy up.

  • @fidrewe99
    @fidrewe99 Před 7 lety

    He withholds one thing: Since the discovery of quantum mechanics we know that one cannot know in principle the whole future of the universe, even if we know the present exactly and have infinate computing power. What we may know is just the probability distribution, all myriads of possible configurations that could became realized. So it can't be ruled out that some nonphysical force (a force not in the physical sense) is able to influence the development of the physical world, perfectly in accordance with the equations. Similary if information is conveyed to and stored in some non-physical entity, the equations are not violated. If you are playing a video game and then switch off the computer, you still remember what you have done in the game, although the software that makes it up is not running anymore and it's not written in the ruleset (the code) how someone might be able to watch it. Some people like to sell it as scientifically proven, but the idea that our behaviour is totally determined by physical processes is, at the moment just a belief.

  • @expchrist
    @expchrist Před 6 lety

    I love this video. Hard to explain

  • @albertomolina8908
    @albertomolina8908 Před 7 lety

    I'm reading The Big Picture (the spanish translation. My english isn't good enough to read the original) and I want to ask a question. Carroll writes that dark matter / energy don't have any influence upon the basic properties of atoms and the physical laws that describe them, although this dark matter / energy represents more than 75% of the entire matter and energy in our visible Universe. However, He writes in other section of the book that any supposed non physical feature of the reality should exert some influence on the behavior of atoms. Can anyone explain me this apparent contradicition? P.S.: I'm sorry for my bad english.

  • @naimulhaq9626
    @naimulhaq9626 Před 7 lety

    Puzzles of Quantum Mechanics that remain not explainable are not the only puzzles, the absolute speed of light (General Relativity),says if you are moving with speed s and focus light out, it keeps traveling at the same speed c.
    As for the second law of thermodynamics, how it breaks down, producing entities like life with lower entropy are not fully understood. Lee Smolin did a good work explaining how plasma keep up their temperature to a high level for a long time, has newer explanations, explaining how the 2 nd law breaks down.
    On the whole we have a long road ahead and may never get the job of finding the mysteries that keep us occupied, finished before we are finished, by an asteroid, or a virus, or something.

    • @MOSMASTERING
      @MOSMASTERING Před 7 lety +2

      Those are explained.
      1. The absolute speed of light has nothing to do with light, it is the speed of causality. See PBS Spacetime on 'The speed of light have anything to do with light'. There is no paradox in light travelling at the same speed for all observers.
      2. This is not a problem either.. Entropy doesn't 'break down' creating life or even seemingly ordered systems like the Earth or Solar System. Taken as a whole - inside the system (which is the universe) everything IS tending toward disorder, but there can be regions of lower entropy within it that still eventually tend toward chaos (ultimate entropy - heat death of the universe).

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 Před 7 lety +1

      Tom Walter
      Science of the Standard Model shows how the fine tuning of the parameter space produce 'self-organizing property of matter', that delivered the universe, life and consciousness, with perfection and with probability one, eliminating randomness/chance, like winning 20-30 lotteries in a row (each with one in a million chance to win). If that does not imply intelligent design, I do not know what does.
      However, at the big bang, dark matter and dark energy were produced with opposite properties, followed by production of particles and anti-particles, followed by production of matter and anti-matter....and on to hot and cold, male and female, up and down etc., otherwise called the 'dual nature of the mathematical/physical world/existence'.
      The consciousness we possess, enabling our thoughts to travel outside the universe, is essentially different from what may be called the 'universal consciousness' which maybe non dual and if you can fancy 'eternal', which can invent the laws of mathematics, while we can only discover them. First referred to by Hegel, 200 years ago as the ubiquitous 'universal spirit', like his 'laws of dialectics', or better still, his law of the 'unity of opposites'. He even conjectured the 'evolution is a dialectical process'. Although he had no idea of anti-gravity or negative temperature, the power of his theory laid the foundation of modern science.

  • @sciencecompliance235
    @sciencecompliance235 Před 4 lety

    This talk really opened my "third eye".

    • @daanthijssen7512
      @daanthijssen7512 Před 4 lety

      Thank you for sharing that. Knowledge does it indeed. Understanding.

  • @lettersquash
    @lettersquash Před 7 lety +4

    Most mind-blowing talk I've seen for a long time! But left me with lots of questions.
    How is entropy very low just after the big bang, when presumably everything was much the same? It's a curious instance of "highly ordered", surely?
    Also, his putting simple-complex as a different continuum from low-high entropy is a different explanation from the usual (e.g. on wikipedia) where the complex (like life) is acknowledged as being more ordered, and low entropy, compensated for by increased entropy elsewhere in the system to satisfy 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.
    So when stars formed from matter attracted together by gravity, was this increasing entropy in the universe combined with increasing "complexity"? How can stars and planets represent less "order" / more "randomness" than a previous state, say, when matter was mostly evenly spread out, just with slight density variations?

    • @MOSMASTERING
      @MOSMASTERING Před 7 lety

      This is not a problem either.. Entropy doesn't 'break down' creating life or even seemingly ordered systems like the Earth or Solar System. Taken as a whole - inside the system (which is the universe) everything IS tending toward disorder, but there can be regions of lower entropy within it that still eventually tend toward chaos (ultimate entropy - heat death of the universe).
      It's overall.. don't consider little tiny regions as a decrease in entropy. Think of balls mixing in a box, maybe you might get a point when they all end up in the corner briefly, but they're still all mixing overall.

    • @lettersquash
      @lettersquash Před 7 lety

      Yeah I understand that, Tom - that's what I referred to as "low entropy compensated for by increased entropy elsewhere in the system". Yes, these still tend towards chaos, as you say (additionally, the theory goes - at wikipedia, etc. - that these regions of lower entropy only exist temporarily because they simultaneously coexist with complementary regions of increased entropy. Usually, high and low entropy are described as less and more ordered. However, one of my points was that Carroll didn't say this, he said that low-high-entropy is a different continuum from less-more-order, and that order increases then decreases while entropy just keeps increasing (I think).
      My other question was more fundamental (i.e. dumb, maybe!) - why is the condition just after the big bang thought of as very low entropy, as I assume it must be according to the theory of increasing entropy? If you have one type of stuff with perhaps random minute variations of density or whatever, it's kind of odd to call that 'highly ordered'. Maybe it's a semantic issue and the maths would pronounce the singularity the most ordered thing, while colloquially we resist the idea of calling something that's all one thing 'highly ordered'. We might ask 'How can you order oneness?', when the maths just says it can't not be. Similarly, most of us would naturally call the state just after the BB pretty 'chaotic'.
      But you've made me wonder about another fundamental question - how much the idea of increasing entropy is mere conjecture when considering the universe. Possibly measurable in lab conditions, I find it hard to believe anyone can say how ordered the whole of the universe was before the stars formed compared with after, particularly considering the fact that we've only just woken up to the possibility that most of the thing has been hidden from view - dark matter and energy. So much to learn about, so little time.

    • @MOSMASTERING
      @MOSMASTERING Před 7 lety

      lettersquash Good points. Well, every time I think I have an insight because what I'm being told seems counter intuitive, the more I look into it, the more the maths begins to get too dense and I have to trust that a physicist knows what he is talking about. Entropy is a good example - they say the entire arrow of time is dependant on the fact that chaos increases, despite pockets within the system where it tends to decrease (before eventually increasing).
      Supposedly, the way I understand it, because everything was squashed into a very small point at the beginning of the universe, it took on characteristics of say, a crystal, a very ordered collection of atoms (think carbon within a diamond). Everything was fundamental (ie no atoms, everything was a force or particle because it was too hot and dense at that point) before inflation/expansion allowed them - but at that very early point, it was incredibly ordered. Quantum fluctuations were blown up to macroscopic scales allowing gravity variations and eventually stars and galaxies to form. But the initial conditions were as ordered as can be.

    • @TheXitone
      @TheXitone Před 7 lety

      No one knows why it was low entropy at the beginning that's the big question.Why is there a universe? We're beginning to grapple with what the universe is but as to what brought it about?......fuck knows man.

    • @jomen112
      @jomen112 Před 7 lety

      If I understand your question correct you are not asking why the entropy was low but why physicists says the entropy was low. If so, then answers has to do with how entropy is defined in physics. Entropy is defined as the number of possible state a system can be in, not what state it is in. In the big bang this number was 1 or close to it. The limitation of possibilities is what is considered to be "more ordered", and that makes one possible state the highest ordered state.
      The reason the entropy is seen as being increasing is because the universe is said to be expanding, i.e. performing work.

  • @anthonytindle5758
    @anthonytindle5758 Před 2 lety

    The first topic this speaker mentioned is that's how a human brain understands instances we can't think that a person is innocent then prove guilt the instance he mentioned at first is if babies die in a place ment to help and keep them alive someone is guilty and that's how we think and if we know someone has no children we automatically think that they are guilty we don't even think that they can't get pregnant for some reason, no we automatically think they hate children so that makes them guilty for the children's deaths. We forget about how good they are, our brain automatically thinks that they hate children enough to end another's life.

  • @Pidxr
    @Pidxr Před 8 lety +6

    So can the reason why an idea is funny be because the universe has an inherent sense of humor?

  • @jmah9578
    @jmah9578 Před 4 lety +1

    The Netherlands does not have a jury system

  • @DavidFMayerPhD
    @DavidFMayerPhD Před 5 lety

    Read his book, "The Big Picture". It is really excellent. It is also deep. Put on your thinking caps.

  • @szolanek
    @szolanek Před 6 lety

    It is weird that without any knowledge I got to the same result, as the core of our questioning has to be entropy and space-time.
    With my Winnie the Pooh approach all is information, even God if existed and entropy will make him insane by some circle clock time. So those (non existing) entities has to go through on purgatory (this place) in order to revive themselves, cutting back on entropy. 13 level of consciousness zip-ped in by the main chakras and unzipped.
    About time, I sense it was 3+1 dimensional and space is low energy= frozen time.
    ... By the way, I don't think that particles can be influenced by other particles only. It sounds like a caveman wouldn't believe in magnetic field, for he can't touch it. There has to be a such a jump there as quantum mechanic was over classical physics.
    ... I love the way he explains things! Good job!

  • @zetvanzacharias9553
    @zetvanzacharias9553 Před 3 lety

    About the case of Lucia de Berk:
    We don't have a jury (to be convinced of guilty or not guilty) in the netherlands.
    That's up to the judge(s).to decide.

  • @dlbattle100
    @dlbattle100 Před 7 lety

    I have detected a definite pattern in the Universe Sean: although you have started verbally acknowledging glossing over the difference between and proton and an anti proton, you never change the slide.

  • @tew1947
    @tew1947 Před 7 lety

    Great

  • @avadhutd1403
    @avadhutd1403 Před 5 lety +1

    Can we use time dilation to live or see the future that we not able to see in this life time (using that one man from this generation can go in 1 Jan 2500 WHAT ARE PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY?

  • @Koos_R
    @Koos_R Před 7 lety

    So I'm watching a talk from Sean Carroll @ Google and @ 28:00 I'm like "Ekinological, WTF!" so I Google it and the first result is a link to this very lecture...WHAT DOES IT MEAN ?!?!?!

  • @sureshapte7674
    @sureshapte7674 Před 8 lety

    do you believe that consciousness could be an emergent property of some configurations of particals?

    • @HardKore5250
      @HardKore5250 Před 8 lety +1

      Seems likely

    • @billgoldbergmania
      @billgoldbergmania Před 8 lety +5

      What else would it be? There is nothing else.

    • @sureshapte7674
      @sureshapte7674 Před 8 lety

      Hmm. But then someone somewhere need to start research project on "mechanism and nature of emergent properties"

    • @neilmcintosh5150
      @neilmcintosh5150 Před 8 lety +1

      I don't think you need to add "configurations of particles". Its reasonable to just say consciousness is an emergent property.

    • @HardKore5250
      @HardKore5250 Před 8 lety

      Neil McIntosh Emergent of what?

  • @meowcus_
    @meowcus_ Před 7 lety

    Time is a way to measure the changing state of matter, speed and gravity alter the rate of change.

  • @ericjohnson6665
    @ericjohnson6665 Před 2 lety

    You know, I used to feel the same way about origins and meanings... then I read that the meaning of 'life' is adaptability... which, as it turns out, is exactly what the dictionary says it means. So the answer to what is the meaning of life, is in the f*ing dictionary!
    For the answers to the other two questions, I have no problem with the information on those two subjects that is contained in The Urantia Book.
    Life began when a Life Carrier brought the blueprint for life to our planet when it was sufficiently briny. He assembled the atoms and molecules into a single celled organism and our Goddess activated it with the "breath of life". some 550,000,000 years ago.
    The origin of the universe is more complicated than that. This book describes Paradise Creator Sons and Creative Spirits, who each get to make and run their own individual universes, ours is Nebadon.
    In addition is discusses the celestial hierarchy, from the Central Isle of Paradise, thru the perfect Central Universe of Havona, (which is excluded from our vision by massive gravity bodies), thru our local universe. And then what the role of humans is in this whole set up.

    • @ivanbigcock426
      @ivanbigcock426 Před 2 lety

      Ummm Feeb, you do know that there is no such thing as "the dictionary", right?

  • @ZarkWonderbread
    @ZarkWonderbread Před 8 lety

    Without acknowledging Halton Arp's work on redshift, almost everything you hear from modern cosmologists is going to be deeply flawed. When redshift is properly modeled, our universe looks VASTLY different than what we've been led to believe. It wouldn't affect the masses but any casual student of Astronomy would feel utterly betrayed.

    • @errmoc5682
      @errmoc5682 Před 8 lety +1

      There would have to be massive amounts of peer work done on Arp's theories before any conclusions about the validity of his challenges. Do you believe that there is some type of conspiracy to keep Arp's Redshift theory in the dark? I think Arp has many interesting ideas and it's too bad that he's not around to discuss them anymore but why do you choose to believe his redshift theory over Hubble's Law or any other standard. Does science not look for the best solution?

  • @christat5336
    @christat5336 Před 2 lety

    At least he brings another theory for the existence of the universe....

  • @capitanmission
    @capitanmission Před 7 lety

    Very clear and to the point. However I think that some deep issues are more open to question than what Sean thinks. This deep issues are metaphysical in nature, like it or not. He takes a valid position, but that position is not the only valid metaphysical position. Why think that the physical laws describe pattern "laws" and not simply describe the way that a particle behaves? But is not a law, a constrain inherent in Nature. In this view, the "randomness" in QM is a consequence of the lack of constrains. Im not telling that a particle could do anything, but that a particle could do anything inside his/her :D decision space (degrees of freedom).
    Another deep difference in view is that Nature is not "made of things" but of process. This view is not in contradiction of Sean insight, because Time in some sense is fundamental, but not space. Nature consist of a co evolution between its components, this ecosystem evolves his "laws", so these are not real laws. The only real laws are the laws of the logic behind this.
    See Whitehead work for the best philosophic work in the last century.

  • @okfanriffic3632
    @okfanriffic3632 Před 7 lety

    Great talk BUT is he correct (at 48 mins) when he says "before modern medicine we lived 30-40 years? The ephors of sparta were only eligible for election at age 60 and the bible (it's not always wrong) suggests three score years and ten (i.e, 70) as a reasonable age so those ages must have been common (or at least not rare). Anybody out there know if we have really doubled our life expectancy?

    • @benjamin_markus
      @benjamin_markus Před 7 lety

      i think what spartans could do to heal in this aspect counts as 'modern medicine'. his point is that without any technology whatsoever, humans as pure biological beings had a life expectancy of 30-40

  • @MichaelJonesC-4-7
    @MichaelJonesC-4-7 Před 8 lety +9

    @17:10 - all one really needs to know.

    • @annwatson4755
      @annwatson4755 Před 8 lety +6

      To be or not to be, may your particles ever roam free,
      Is it better by far to stay where you are and contemplate one's neighbour,
      Or make the jump to a different state, that is if one is able.
      Perhaps you should just wave if you are uncertain and string along for the ride. ; )

    • @MichaelJonesC-4-7
      @MichaelJonesC-4-7 Před 8 lety +2

      Ann Watson
      You's a thunker. Always wuz. ; )

    • @annwatson4755
      @annwatson4755 Před 8 lety +1

      Takes one to know one. ; )

    • @MichaelJonesC-4-7
      @MichaelJonesC-4-7 Před 8 lety +1

      Ann Watson
      (blushing furiously!) ; )

    • @annwatson4755
      @annwatson4755 Před 8 lety +1

      Hot flush? ; )

  • @katiekat4457
    @katiekat4457 Před 6 lety

    I can't decide whether I like the instructor's hair piece or not? My ex had one and know I can spot them everywhere. definitely the first guy has one.

  • @contemplatico
    @contemplatico Před 5 lety +1

    IS 'time' really a 'dimension'? If so... it seems to be a 'one-directional' '1-dimensional' phenomena (perhaps '½-dimensional'?). As far as we know - no 'entity' can 'travel' in a 'negative' time direction. The same is not true for the spatial dimensions. If time was '1-dimensional' - like a spatial dimension (a line) - you WOULD be able to 'travel' in both directions? ... a thought :D
    Great lecture!

    • @larsalfredhenrikstahlin8012
      @larsalfredhenrikstahlin8012 Před 5 lety

      How would you even know if you are moving backwards in time? Maybe every 10 seconds, you are living time backwards for 5 seconds. How would you know? To you it would seem like time is moving in only one direction. Forward.

    • @contemplatico
      @contemplatico Před 5 lety

      @@larsalfredhenrikstahlin8012 True i guess :-)
      There does seem to be a "fundamental" difference between the past and the future though.

  • @ggrthemostgodless8713
    @ggrthemostgodless8713 Před 5 lety

    This talk given here and at the Royal Institute are the best physics lectures given in recent times, Feyman would be so damn proud of this man. Talk about big picture vision!!

  • @SecularAdvocate
    @SecularAdvocate Před 6 lety

    It seems to me that time travel is impossible for one simple reason. Time is not a stand alone concept. Space-time is the problem. If you could find a way to move through time, you would also need to calculate space. For instance, if I wanted to travel back only a year, I'd have to calculate EXACTLY where the Earth was one year ago, else I could end up a year in the past, but somewhere in the vacuum of space. Since we don't know the whole of the universe, we can't calculate the speed at which anything within it is moving, or predict where any object in it will be at any given time. There is no anchor in the universe with which we could use to make any calculations. IMO

  • @TechyBen
    @TechyBen Před 7 lety

    Entropy is a requirement for an expanding universe. A static universe would have zero entropy. (Possibly a contracting universe would have a reversed entropy)

    • @dodgyass11
      @dodgyass11 Před 5 lety

      The big bang was a reversed entropy?

  • @Cristov123
    @Cristov123 Před 6 lety

    Well *I* don't want a fucking equation...bring the picture back! AHHHHHHH

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 Před 6 lety

    The unexpected dangers of trusting in animal instinct looking for the risk in accepting the obvious "Big Picture"? Ie "living in denial" as if it were a principle of self control... (and it is when applied to one's own life, but phrase is usually a customized accusation directed away from the accuser)
    "It's all Quantum" is about as accurate as possible for simplicity, but outside that knowledge is the uncertainty of unfinished understanding. (The professor is an expert explainer)
    Ambivalence is wisdom derived from knowing the Quantum Mechanism, innate uncertainty.
    The "Arrow of Time" in conjunction with the BBT is an observation of Quantum Chemistry as it applies to the reiterative processes of living things.

  • @michaelwilliams2212
    @michaelwilliams2212 Před 2 lety

    Actual Google can't do better audio quality??

  • @Neme112
    @Neme112 Před 7 lety

    Where's the six hour version?

    • @daverumpel
      @daverumpel Před 7 lety +2

      He was referring to a hypothetical 6 hr version

    • @Neme112
      @Neme112 Před 7 lety +1

      David Igboanugo I know, it was a joke because if there was I would watch it.

    • @daverumpel
      @daverumpel Před 7 lety

      +Neme I actually thought you might be joking after I posted my response but I was like whatever.

    • @Kavetrol
      @Kavetrol Před 7 lety

      He did say that his book is a six hour version of this talk.

  • @Kreadus005
    @Kreadus005 Před 7 lety +11

    Huh... Reminds me of "The Last Question". Can entropy be reversed? Yes... temporarily. Through Life. But only to hydrogenate carbon dioxide. Hehehe

    • @evilcam
      @evilcam Před 7 lety +1

      That is my absolute most favorite piece of fiction in the world. So I also saw the correlation. Good call.
      It is also similar to my other favorite bit of fiction ever, another Asimov short story called "The Last Answer". I won't spoil anything, but hydrogenating carbon also reminded me of a few themes in that story.

    • @fudgesauce
      @fudgesauce Před 7 lety +4

      Life doesn't reverse entropy -- it reduces it in one place by making it much higher in another place. The same can be said of the formation of ice, no life required.

    • @TrollinJoker
      @TrollinJoker Před 7 lety

      thanks.

    • @Pyriold
      @Pyriold Před 7 lety +2

      Entropy can be reversed (and is getting reversed regularly) at small scales, even by chance. Its all a statistics game. Highly ordered states are just far less likely than chaotic ones, and so they will usually not come into being on their own. But given infinite time, our whole observable universe could just organise out of total chaos just by chance. Thats almost infinitely unlikely of course.

    • @David_Last_Name
      @David_Last_Name Před 7 lety +3

      +Brian Twardzik Ok, so I've read Asimov's "Last Answer", but I never even heard of "The Last Question". So I looked it up and read it, and holy crap that was deep!!! Thanks so much for your comment, I don't think I ever would have stumbled across that one otherwise.
      For anyone else, go read it. It's a short story and will only take about 10 minutes to read. Well worth it!

  • @MikeEnRegalia
    @MikeEnRegalia Před 8 lety

    Why does he say Anti-Proton at about 22:00? Should be two protons colliding ...

    • @ugowar
      @ugowar Před 8 lety +1

      +Mike EnRegalia The rotated graph on the right is incorrect ("glossed over" as he said) in comparison to the one on the left. One of the protons should have the direction pointing in the opposite direction of the vertex, the same for particle "X". That is, a particle going back in time since time evolves to the right in these graphs. A particle going back in time is equivalent to an antiparticle going forward in time (which is what the diagram shows), so that's why he said antiproton.

    • @MikeEnRegalia
      @MikeEnRegalia Před 8 lety

      +ugowar thanks!

  • @RobSinclaire
    @RobSinclaire Před 7 lety +2

    This is really wonderful - thank you!

  • @AbhishekSingh-op2tr
    @AbhishekSingh-op2tr Před 6 lety

    Great talk! but the example of file size for computer people didn't just click. Anyone listening to you have some basic interest in physics and science in general, therefore, they know a bit too, so that's fine not giving examples from the domain you are not much aware of.