Who are the Quranists?
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Happy fasting to all who are fasting.
Hatur nuhun kang
Allah said in a Qudsi hadeeth : “All deeds are for the sons of Adam, except fasting it’s for me and i reward it”
Narrator: abo huraira, (Bukhari and muslim)
❤️
Thank you. Happy fasting guys
(10:15) And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, those who do not expect the meeting with Us say, "Bring us a Qur'an other than this or change it." Say, [O Muhammad], "It is not for me to change it on my own accord. I only follow what is revealed to me. Indeed I fear, if I should disobey my Lord, the punishment of a tremendous Day."
How true and to the point, as reading the Qur'an in numerous places states clearly that it is only the Qur'an, the Revelation of Allah that the Messenger was to convey and that is why he left no Bukharian hadith.
It is an act of shirk to associate the Bukharian writings with Allah in any shape or form as a part of our Deen, way of life and anyone doing so belongs to an ajami [Allama Iqbal] religion, not a submitting to Allah one, Islam.
Some more verses to ponder over
7:28 (As an example,) when people commit an indecency they say, "We found our forefathers doing it and God has enjoined it upon us" (made it natural for us). Say (O Prophet), "God never enjoins indecency. Do you attribute to God that of which you have no knowledge?"
7:29 Say (O Messenger), "My Lord enjoins justice and to stand devoted to Him alone in complete submission at all time and place. Call unto Him, sincere in your faith in Him alone. As He brought you into being in the first place, so shall you return to Him.”
7:30 Some He has guided, others have deserved straying. They take satanic people as allies instead of God, and think that they are rightly guided. [7:3, 22:13. The straying ones take their religious leadership as their masters instead of God]
7:173 Nor will any excuse avail them such as, “It was our forefathers who took false gods and we inherited their belief system. Will you punish us for what falsehood others practiced?” [You will not be questioned what others used to do. No one will bear the load of another. 2:134, 39:7]
7:174 Thus We explain Our verses in all clarity so that people return (to the Book).
7:175 And tell them what happened to him whom Our messages were conveyed but he cast them off. Thus Satan (his selfish desires) overpowered him until he became of those who lost their way.
7:176 He could have raised himself in honor according to Our laws, but he clung to the earth and followed his own desires. Therefore his likeness is as the likeness of a dog. If you scold him, he pants, or if you leave him alone, he still pants. Such is the example of the nation that belies Our revelations. So, relate this narration that they may reflect. [If it had been Our will = If he chose Our laws of humiliation. God’s revelation lightens your burdens while manmade dogmas place burdens on you. 7:157]
7:177 Evil as an example are the people who reject Our verses, since they hurt their own ‘self’.
@@truehikma What's funny is that most sectarians call Qur'an-only followers as "Quranist" even though it's already mentioned in The Qur'an that:
Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner." (46:9)
And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, those who do not expect the meeting with Us say, "Bring us a Qur'an other than this or change it." Say, [O Muhammad], "It is not for me to change it on my own accord. I only follow what is revealed to me. Indeed I fear, if I should disobey my Lord, the punishment of a tremendous Day." (10:15)
@@michaelleroi8615 What I find funny and sad is that people like Paul and his Bukharian friends at speakers corner in Hyde park and elsewhere, can give a very credible answer against the atheists and Christians, no God, Trinity etc, quoting the Bible or showing no scriptural authority from it, yet they go blank where the Qur'an is concerned.
The Qur'an has a trinity of verses saying that those who fail to judge everything they do by its Guidance are:
5:44 ..... And whoever fails to judge or rule by what God has revealed, such are the disbelievers (‘Kafiroon’).
5:47 Let the People of the Gospel judge by what God has revealed therein. And whoever fails to judge or rule by what God has revealed, are drifters from the right path (‘Faasiqoon’).
5:49 So judge between them by what God has revealed. And do not follow their vain desires. Beware of them, lest they divert you from some of what God has revealed to you. If they turn away from the truth, be assured that God has decided to chastise them for some of their crimes. A great many people drift away from the right path.
As for going blank, the Qur'an also describes why this happens:
2:18 Deaf, dumb and blind of reason! They will not return to journey in the right direction (unless they use reason. 8:22, 16:76, 17:36).
Paul comes across as a very logical and well read man, but when he cannot do basic cross-referencing of the Qur'an to remove the contradictions in Bukharianism beliefs, then having all those books is like:
62:5 (The Book of God is to be read and understood, and not placed in high niches.) The example of those who were entrusted with Torah and did not apply it in their daily lives, is that of the donkey that carries a load of books. Evil is the example of people who belie God’s revelations. God does not guide people who choose to do wrong (and displace the revelation from its rightful status).
[Kizb = Belie = Give lie = Deny in practice. Kufr = Reject openly = Darkness = Denial = Ingratitude = Concealing. Zulm = Dislodge from the rightful place = Relegate the truth = Give preference to conjecture = Oppression = Wrongdoing = Violation of human rights]
Hey hadithers
Does Buhkari Explain the Quran?
The advocates of hadith are fond of saying that the hadith explains the Quran without which, they say the Quran cannot be understood. In other words without hadith they will have to reject the Quran or at least ignore it. The scholars also say that the hadith they call "Sahih Bukhary" is the best hadith.
It can be easily proved that the hadith does not in any way explain the Quran and that the "Sahih Bukhari" is not worth the papers it is printed on.
For evidence please refer to, and check all references of "Sahih Al-Bukhary" by Dr. Muhammed Muhsin Khan, Islamic University, Medina Al-Munawwara. Publisher "Kitab Bhavan, New Delhi, which is the Nine volume encyclopedia. Vol. 6 of "Sahih Al-Bukhary" is devoted to the explanation of the Quran (Tafsir). The other eight volumes prescribe things like drinking camels urine to cure fevers (vol 7, hadith no 590), burning people first and then their houses if they do not go the mosque on time, (vol.1, hadith no.626), dreaming of undressing women (vol 9, hadith no.139 and 140), using shoes to garland camels (Vol 2, hadith no 763), and other such non-sense.
But let us focus on vol. 6: the explanation of the Quran by Imam Bukhary. Although the Quran has 114 suras or chapters, Bukhari does not explain all the verses in all the suras. Sura 2, Al Baqarah has 286 verses, but Bukhari only provides hadith for about 50 verses. This is slightly over 20% of Al Baqarah. Bukhari has left the Ulamma groping the dark over the remaining 80%.
Sura AL Kauther (Sura 108) is the shortest sura in the Quran, only 3 verses. However Bukhari "attempts" to explain the meaning of just one word "Kauther" as sufficient to explain this whole Sura. Bukhari says; "Kauther" is a river in heaven.
But simply, "Kauther" means "good in abundance". (Translation by President of Islamic research, IFAT, Saudi Arabia). This also suggests that Imam Bukhari did not know Arabic. It is a fact that Bukhari was a Persian from Bukhara and his mother tongue was Farsi. The scholars have no records to show when Bukhari learned Arabic. More about this later.
The greatest surprise of all is that 28 suras of the Quran are NOT "explained" at all. The sura numbers are as follows; 23, 27, 29, 35, 51, 57, 58, 64, 67, 69, 70, 73, 76, 81, 82, 86, 88, 89, 90, 94, 100, 101, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, and 109. Bukhari explains this away as follows "no hadith were mentioned here."
According to the scholars only the Prophet is supposed to be the source of the hadith. The hadith is supposed to explain the Quran. The BIG question is, "Who went on un authorized holiday for 28 WHOLE SURAS of the Quran ?!!!
The scholars insist that the hadith explains the Quran. Hence the scholars have to do away with 28 SURAS of the Quran because Bukhari did not explain these 28 SURAS..
Therefore the boast by the scholars that those who uphold the QURAN ALONE and do NOT depend on the hadith at all, cannot understand the Quran, falls FLAT on its face. The scholars are in a far worse situation. 28 Suras are missing and none of the other suras are explained in full by Bukhari.
To revert to the earlier point that the Persian Bukhari may not have known Arabic, this is suggested by the way Bukhari has changed the names of certain SURAS. By itself this is a strange phenomenon. The scholars themselves do NOT know why Bukhary did this.
Non-Arabs sometimes refer to a Sura by its first verse. This is because they may not have known the Arabic name for the SURA because they are not scholars of the Quran or simply because they are not Arabs. Bukhari displays the same characteristics.
Sura Al Naba (Sura 68) is labelled as Sura "Amma yatasa'alun", this is actually part of the first verse of the sura.. Sura Al Baiyina (Sura 98) is labelled as Sura "Lam Yakun". Again the beginning verses. Sura Al Takwir (Sura 81) is labelled Sura "Idhash Shamsu Kuwirat". This is the start of the first verse again. Sura Al Maarij (sura 70) is labelled Sura "Sa'ala Sa'ilun".
Some SURAS have been given two names. Sura Al Insan (Sura 76) is labelled Sura "Hal-Ata-insani" or Sura "Dahr".
But this is a revealing point because such labeling is more akin to reciters who are not Arabs, who do not know the Arabic language. Apart from the fact that Bukhari was Persian from Bukhara many scholars believe that he was also blind. The next question is "WHO WROTE the Sahih Bukhari?!" It will also be pertinent to see how Bukhari handles some of the explanations of the verses-if and when he cares to explain them.
For example some explanations end with a blank space.: Vol 6, Hadith number 50 seeks to explain Sura 2:223. After some narration it continues like this; Nafi' added regarding the verse: "So go to your tilth when or how you will. Ibn Umar said; " It means one should approach his wife in........" The explanation ends with a blank space. But not to worry. A footnote completes the picture. The footnote says "Al Bukhary left a blank space here because he was not sure of what Ibn Umar had said !." And yet this called "Sahih Al Bukhary" Perhaps this is why some scholars have much problems in this department.
There is also one of the most foolish and incredible explanation by Bukhari for Sura 11:5. The beautiful meaning of the verse is actually :11:4 "To God is your return and He has power over all things." 11:5 "Behold ! They fold up their hearts, that they may be hid from him. Ah! Even when they cover themselves with their garments. He knows what they conceal, and what they reveal. For He knows well the (innermost secrets) of the hearts." 11:6 There is no moving creature on earth but its substance depends on God; He knows its resting place and its temporary deposit. All is in a clear Record." Translation by Presidency of Islamic Research, IFTA, Saudi Arabia..
This meaning is crystal clear. We all answer to God. There is nothing we can conceal from God. Every single thing that we do is in a clear Record. "Kitaab-un Maubeen". So do not think you can hide anything from God.
NOW, Here is Bukhari's ridiculous explanation of the same verse in 11:5. Vol. 6 Hadith no. 203: Narrated Muhammed bin Abbad bin Jaafar that he heard Ibn Abbas reciting: " No doubt! they fold up their breasts." 11:5 and asked him about the explanation. He said, "Some people used to hide themselves while answering the call of nature in an open space lest they be exposed to the sky, so the above revelation was sent down regarding them.
According to Bukhari, the whole purpose of this narration was to tell the Sahaba that God could see them defecating and sleeping in the desert!. According to Bukhari's logic then, after this verse was revealed, the Sahaba who travelled with their wives in the desert lost all their inhibitions, since God could see them anyway. No need to hide anything.
Similarly Bukhari twists sura 5:87. To explain "5:87" Bukhari first quotes it partially only, not in full, as follows : "O you who believe DO NOT make unlawful the good things which God has made for you" 5:87
The explanation by Bukhari (Vol.6 Hadith no. 139) is as follows : Narrated Abdullah "We used to participate in holy wars conducted by the prophet and we had no women with us. So, we said (to the prophet) "Shall we castrate ourselves "? But the prophet forbade us to do that and therefore he allowed us to marry a woman temporarily) by giving her even a garment, and then the prophet recited. "O you who believe ! Do not make unlawful for you...."There is a footnote "Temporary marriage (Mut'a) was allowed in the early days of Islam., but later, at the time of the Khaibar Battle, it was prohibited (God knows it better)."
The uncertainty in the footnote lends support to the fact that this is an evil lie against God and the prophet by Bukhari.
Sura 5:87 is actually as follows :
O you who believe, do not prohibit good things that are made lawful by God, and do not aggress; God dislikes the aggressors.
Is prostitution an excess ? Worse than that it is an evil. Which Muslim scholar will allow his daughter to receive "even a garment" as a payment for temporarily servicing the lusts of some Sahaba ? Note how the Bukhari has the sahaba coolly suggesting "Shall we castrate ourselves ?" as though it is done every morning after breakfast.
In Sura 24:33 God and the messenger told us:
Those who cannot afford to get married shall maintain morality until God provides for them from His grace. Those among your servants who wish to be freed in order to marry, you shall grant them their wish, once you realize that they are honest. And give them from God's money that He has bestowed upon you. You shall not force your girls to commit prostitution, seeking the materials of this world, if they wish to be chaste. If anyone forces them, then God, seeing that they are forced, is Forgiver, Merciful.
@@centi50s Salaam brother,
May Allah bless you and your family. I can completely relate to everything you just said in your comments. I to was indoctrinated to believe in these ridiculous hadeeth collections. Then it wasn't long until I noticed the absurdities and nonsensical rubbish in these hadeeths.
Like Moses (as) chasing a stone that apparently ran away with his clothes! The reason for this was so that Allah can prove to the Children of Israel that Moses (as) had perfect looking testicles. Yes, this is Sahih hadeeth found in Bukhari!!!
Another hadeeth tells us that Moses (as) slapped the angel of death while trying to collect his soul. We are then told that the angel of death informs Allah of this and then Allah tells the angel to go back and tell Moses to place his hand on the back of an Ox. And how ever many hairs he sees on his hand, he can live for that many more years. According to this hadeeth, not only does the angel fail to collect the soul of Moses, but apparently Allah leaves it to chance!! Yes, this is another Sahih hadeeth!!! Are we to believe this ridiculous nonsense???
I thought I was losing my mind because everyone is upholding these Sahih hadeeths. I then tossed all this rubbish aside and started focuses on the Qur'an. That's when the Verses made sense and became crystal clear! I thank our Lord for guiding me and it's a delight to see like minded individuals also waking up to the truth!
Take care my brother!
Peace
[69:51] “And indeed, this ˹Quran˺ is the absolute truth.”
[77:50]So in which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe?
[7:185] Which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe in?
[6:112-113] And thus We have made for every prophet an enemy - devils from mankind and jinn, inspiring to one another decorative speech in deception. But if your Lord had willed, they would not have done it, so leave them and that which they invent. And [it is] so the hearts of those who disbelieve in the Hereafter will incline toward it and that they will be satisfied with it and that they will commit that which they are committing.
[31:6] And of the people is he who buys the idle / frivolous tales (lahw al-hadith) to mislead [others] from the way of God without knowledge and who takes it in ridicule. Those will have a humiliating punishment.
[45:6] These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe?
[68:37] Or do you have some book in which you are studying?
[68:36-38] What is (the matter) with you? How do you judge? Or do you have a book in which you learn that indeed for you in it is whatever you choose?
[6:155] And this is a blessed Book which We brought down, so follow it and be reverent so that you may attain mercy.
[6:114 part] Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?
[5:44 part]… And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is they who are the disbelievers (kafirun).
[39:23] Allah has sent down the best discourse, a book containing subjects resembling each other, mentioned again and again....
.This is the Guidance of Allah with which He brings to the right path whomsoever He wills. As for the one whom Allah lets go astray, for him there is no one to guide.
[7:2-3] A Book has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it. It is a Reminder for the believers.
[7:3] Follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember!
[46:9] Say (O Muhammad), "I am not a novelty among the messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I follow nothing other than what is revealed to me (Quran). I am no more than a clear warner."
[10:15] When Our clear revelations are recited to them, those who do not expect to meet Us say ˹to the Prophet˺, “Bring us a different Quran or make some changes in it.” Say ˹to them˺, “It is not for me to change it on my own. I only follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I were to disobey my Lord, the punishment of a tremendous Day.”
[6:38] And there is no creature on (or within) the earth or bird that flies with its wings except (that they are) communities like you. We have not neglected in the Book (Quran) a thing. Then unto their Lord they will be gathered.
[39:25] Those who lived before them did [too] give the lie to the truth - whereupon suffering befell them without their having perceived whence it came..
[12:111] There was certainly in their stories a lesson for those of understanding. Never was the Qur’an a narration invented, but a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of all things and guidance and mercy for a people who believe.
[25:33] And they do not come to you with an argument except that We bring you the truth and the best explanation (ahsan tafsir).
[25:1] Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a warner -
I don't think dressing like an Arab and eating dates are prophets Sunnah, it's more like an Arab culture. He ate the best and the simplest food that was available to him, same goes for the clothes. His Sunnah are his teachings, his character and personalities. I never believe that dressing like an Arab will make me a better Sunni( Sunni = A person who follows prophets Sunnah).
The Prophet liked Qamis. Its that long white robe. There is a Hadith for this
while you're at it wear it a khimar and jillaba and surma so you look most Arab like
louder plz they think if they ate like the prophet sleep like the prophet and be like the prophet in appearence that means they are following his sunnah !!! and when you tell him why you use cars to travel or planes that's not sunnah they will say you need to adapt to your own time !!
they don't know what to say they are extremist i see the ones who associate growing a beard with the sunnah of the prophet ARE extremist
When you love someone, you want to emulate them and walk where they walked, do what they did. It's not compulsory but it's a passion and sunnah.
@@jimmy_x557 disagree
Death for apostasy is in Hadith but in Qur'an it's clearly mentioned in these three following signs:
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing. (2:256)
And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them. And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place. (18:29)
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion. (109:6)
no stoning in quran. stoning only found in bible for adultery apostasy and gays. moe used this punishment from bible before related verses came down from the quran
Wow Paul ! This is the best commentary on the subject I've ever heard !!!! The references and quotations you outlined, basically, CLOSES THE CASE. Thank you so much
No it doesn't. 😃😃.Even by a long shot
@@randomtravelsrandomthought8613 stay wandering, that's your limits. Have a great day 😊
*Quran 16:44 "˹We sent them˺ with clear proofs and divine Books. And We have sent down to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Reminder, so that you may explain to people what has been revealed for them, and perhaps they will reflect."*
Quranists need to reflect on the Quran
Exactly thank you 👍
you are a disbeliever, you immediately reject the verse, deny the explanation from the Qur'an itself, disregard the verse. Reserve your place in the fire. I will trust Imam Bukhari who came 200 years after the Prophet and the Qur'an more than you who came after 1400 years after the Prophet Muhammad.
The li- in litubayyina here is referring to what? Where else does this word appear in surah 16? In reference to what?
@@zayn3134 from 570 to 810 is 240 years.
What is missing in this verse is that know about the prophet through books written some 200-250 years after the prophet?
Why this selective reading of hadith then? For example, why shouldnt we accept shia collections of hadith?
You may not be a scholar but you explain things better than any scholar that I know of.
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@@BloggingTheology Hi, you’ve explained the Sunni argument very well, almost as well as they have been doing for hundreds of years. In future before quoting a verse or sentence from a book make sure you do it in context. For example the Quran 4:59 is following 4:58 where Allah makes commandments. From my understanding the entire Surah Al-Nisa is dedicated to commandments and laws which was foreign to the Arab world. Allah wants these commandments obeyed. When we are asked to obey Allah and His Messenger (PBUH) we are asked to follow the Quran. If Allah had said obey Me that’s confusing as Allah has revealed other books with its own laws, so Allah refers to Mohamed (PBUH) too. As God says in Quran 4:58 He is All Hearing All Seeing and in 4:59 He refers to those that seek judgment from false judges. When one accepts Islam it’s best to follow the Quran with reasoning. It is Justice, Mercy and a reminder for mankind and Jinn.
@Shkra The key word in your speech is "I think..."
That explains everything!
thank you for your work
The concept of the prophet having his own sunnah is contradictory. The only sunnah mentioned in Quran Is sunna of Allah. God repeatedly says the Quran is complete I guess he is lying going by the logic of people who follow hadith ?
Say (O Prophet): “If you really love Allah, then follow me, and Allah shall love you and forgive you your sins. Allah is Most-Forgiving, Very-Merciful.”
Did prophet Muhammad (pbuh) taught something that Allah didn't teach Him?
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was called the walking Quran and He didn't teach anything other than what Allah revealed. In bukhari, muslim u will find some hadiths that directly contradicts Quranic basis of teachings. I am not saying u should reject all hadiths but u have to check hadiths with quranic basis and teachings. Its high time to recheck the word 'sahih'. Afterall it is men works and no man is above mistakes. On the otherhand Quran is divine. Btw i m not quranist.
@@user-si5eq1je3r i didn't say all hadiths are wrongs infact without hadiths we wouldn't have rules about how to pray, pilgrimage etc in details. At the same time people pray differently according to different madhabs!! Why is that??...prophet Muhammad sw definitely didn't pray differently at different times. Tell me how could all be sahih at the same time?? I just wanna say man are not above mistakes. Hadiths are not divine whether bukhari or muslims.
Prophet Muhammad didn't order to compile his works at his lifetime. Similarly the 4 caliph's didn't compile hadiths. Imam Malik(ra)rejected thousands of hadiths while compiling hadiths for the first time almost 93 yrs after prophet Muhammad(pbuh).He was resident of madina!! Imagine thousands hadiths were rejected at that time in Medina as false in the name of prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Imam bukhari(may Allah be pleased with him)compiled hadiths centuries after prophet Muhammad(pbuh). He did an extraordinary job . There are thousands of hadiths in bukhari and Muslims but U will find some serious defects in some hadiths, even those directly contradicts Quranic teachings and even make our prophet laughable. Not all hadiths i repeat. I just wanna say calling all hadiths sahih is wrong. U have to cross check them with quranic principles. Remember men are not above mistakes.
@@user-si5eq1je3r it seems like u didn't properly read my comments or failed to understand what i tried to say. I never ever said hadits compiled by imam malik true or controversial. I just wanted to say he was the first compiler of hadiths and he rejected thousands of hadiths during his work. In just a century of prophet muhammad sw. died how could there be so many false hadiths in the name of prophet even in medina??? Imam malik didn't choose someone's narrated hadiths but it could be possible the same man's narrated hadiths have put in other hadiths books too.
We can't even answer why praying rules differs from madhabs to madhabs. These praying rituals came from hadiths, right? Why Hanafi, shafi, maliki, hanbali,(left alone shia schools) differs about the singlemost important praying practice?? They were all right at the same time?? How come??
@@ghg12374 No. The Prophet did pray at different times. If a Hadith is mass-transmitted with an authentic chain, then we accept the Hadith. Hadith usually provide extra info on Quranic law.
@@ghg12374 Abu Bakr compiled Ahadith. Imam Malik may have rejected some Hadith but did not reject all. We believe that Hadith aren't all Sahih. That's why we believe that Hadith fall into the categories of Sahih, Hasan, Daif and Mawdu'. To see whether a Hadith is true, we have to check the chain. Hadith are reported through chains of transmission e.g. X heard from Y who heard from Z that the Prophet said this. If there are defects in the chain, then they are rejected if there is no Sahih Hadith/corroborating evidence to back what the Hadith said.
dear Paul I hope you are doing well , fortunately I had the occasion to fly back to my country this week , in Tunisia we are still able to do taraweh ( or at least a short version of it ) , the most amazing experiance is to see the people behind their imams , focusing on quran and giving their best to gain the favor of the GOD .
PS : I reserve some prayer for you dear Paul , I ask GOD toguide you , ease your task , and to grant you what you desire . you are by far my favourite youtuber
thank you
Please pray with him to keep his western critical way of thinking and not sink in the medieval none sense that Britain got a rid of years ago.
"Obey Allah and obey the messenger"
@wim develder We have Kitab as well as Hikam taught by Muhammad (saw).. It's absurd to skip the wisdom of the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (saw), You can reject those hadiths which go against Quran. The Sunnah and Hadith are also protected by the Islamic community, Quran is pure, we do not claim all hadiths are sahih. If you leave sunnah, hadith - you are missing the wisdom and only will have Kitab, my dear Quranist.
@wim develder of course my friend, the qur'an is and always be an authority above the hadiths
@@HaidirGhani meanwhile hadith is explanation of quran, how did you do your prayer without hadith? ... i mean people confuse between hadith sahih and fabricated , hence they generalize that all hadith cannot be trusted
Quranist is new sect of islam , you never see them in early era of islam.
@wim develder No Muslim will say worship Bukhari, that you added right? We never claimed anyone apart from Prophets are infallible. Hadith isn't a second revelation, but are the wisdom, the sayings of Muhammad (pbuh) if you miss it, you miss a great knowledge and without Hikam what will you achieve? No Muslim will ask you to follow the hadith over Quran, the Quran is our first preference. Please stop lying like that we worship Bukhari, Bukhari (r) himself taught us to reject hadith which comes against Quran. He did the work of collecting the sayings of Muhammad (saw), now what's the point in accusing his works?
@wim develder "obey Allah and obey the messenger". I know how to obey Allah, but how do we obey "The Messenger"?
Subhan Allah .... he who seeks guidance will find it with Allah's permission S.W.T.
Paul i don't know if you know this but Allah Subhanahu wa Taala knows that from his servants there are alot who love you sincerely . Respect and Love from Tripoli North of Lebanon 🌹🌹🌹
❤️
His* servants
Sorry for the wake up call he's got it all wrong
I agree with what you said, but to my knowledge, even in Bukhary and Muslim there are several questionable Hadiths. Hence, one has take some Hadiths with a grain of salt and embrace and accept only those Hadiths that don't contradict the Holly Qur'an.
Quran is not holy😂
From lot of what I hear and understand, there are two things (may be more) which are disturbing: 1. Quran verses are often not fully understood, are translated with hasty and superficial. So much of what The Creator has wanted to revealed to mankind is being omitted or passed over. So you may miss points and come to the conclusion, that The Religion of The Almighty is not adequate. 2. Looking for unnecessary information in the Quran. E.g. The Almighty tells us to pay Zakaat. Is that not enough to pay Zakaat? No, because now we want to know how much and when and how often and over what possessions and all type of other details, to finally conclude Quran is not detailed. So The Almighty says: "Quran is complete and fully detailed", and we say: "No it is not!" There are many more examples. Sura 25:30 gives a clear warning.
While the Qur'an is a Revelation, thus free from contradiction, a Hadist is a Prophet's saying narated by other people. As such we must hold to the Qur'an first and foremost. By default, a hadits is second and must be seen in the light of the Qur'an.
Was not the Quran narrated to us by the same people , where is your logic ?
@@shahkhan4347 - urang is saying both are pertinent, but the Qur'an takes precedence where appropriate.
How did you come to this outstanding discovery?
@@sajO5754 who ?
@@stephenconnolly1830 no I'm not supposing he is !
Thanks for putting some perspective on the sometimes confusing relationship between Qur'an, Sunnah and Hadith Paul. Love your recommendations for reading too, you're my 'go to' person now for suggested texts!
Excellent summary of this issue! God bless you
Proud alumni of International Islamic University Malaysia 😊
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أذكرني و إخوتك في اللّه في الجامعة الٱسلامية في سجودكم أن يُيسّر اللّه لي و لأسرتي العودة من بلاد الغرب إلى وطننا ... يا ربّ...آمين
@@ikmal8416 thanks for the advice. Though of doin the same but after reading ur comment, i think it suffice. Salam fr Gombak.
@@StProto Who is the old man suffering and being tortured and cruxified in ur profile photo? Did the old man died? Pity him.
@@norama3998 اسأل الله عزوجل ان يردكم الى بلدكم سالمين غانمين
Great video as usual.
Masha'Allah.
Many many thanks
Like he brought something new.
I wish he was more fair in his research. Instead of just relying on the most comment sect.
He didn’t mention the reasoning behind why we claim we should only follow Quran.
It’s like he used a book of a sunni. Of course he is ganna say what pleases his sunnies
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I can discuss with you this topic on messenger or some other platform.
Leave the way to contact you, and discuss it in a respectful and friendly manner.
Salam
@Anam Alia
How would you know.
At least I put my trust in Allah’ s words.
Who do you put your trust on ?
He said someone said that someone said that he said someone said.
Good luck 👍🍀
@Anam Alia learn Arabic first then discuss Islam fundamentals 👍
Just found your channel a few days ago and got hooked instantly. Keep up the good work Paul. May Allah guide us all.
Welcome aboard!
I absolutely love your videos brother! It's so calming and relaxing.
May Allah Bless You. :)
Glad you like them!
It’s not fair that Paul can’t understand Arabic so he relies solely on the dominant sect books. Sunna.
That’s not Islam it’s a sect of Islam.
@@adelseddouki3375 bruhhhhhh Quran and sunnah is islam
Excellent piece of work!
Many thanks!
How solid you're sir! A very intelligent man.. I recommend anyone tries to claim this wonderful man ( Mr. Paul) to adopt their own beliefs or interpretation, I recommend them to back off and realise that he obviously hasn't come upon this blogging theology from a shallow perspective. He's obviously dug deep and READ AND LEARNT, which you surely haven't done half of his efforts. So here I just wanted to pin this comment regardless of any opinion.. and not to have any credit. Keep on Mr Paul.. you're admired 🤲
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If the Sunnah Hadiths are so important then it raises the question why they were not written down at the time of the Prophet Muhammad just as the Quranic verses were written in order to prevent them being lost. Issues like how to pray are not passed on through hadith but by tradition, from one generation to the next, person to person, parent to child etc
@Eremias Ranwolf There is obligatory sunnah and optional sunnah. Eg. Walking into bathroom with left foot is optional. Beard for men is obligatory. With optional sunnah if you do it, you are rewarded if you don't do it, you are not punished for it.
We were entrusted with the Qur'an but follow 'scholars', Bukhari, Hamafi madhab etc which is what the Jews did, they neglected the true Taurat of Allah for their rabbinical teachings, and this is how the Qur'an addresses those who do this and follow numerous scholars and their numerous interpretations, rulings etc>
62:5 (The Book of God is to be read and understood, and not placed in high niches.) The example of those who were entrusted with Torah and did not apply it in their daily lives, is that of the donkey that carries a load of books. Evil is the example of people who belie God’s revelations. God does not guide people who choose to do wrong (and displace the revelation from its rightful status).
[Kizb = Belie = Give lie = Deny in practice. Kufr = Reject openly = Darkness = Denial = Ingratitude = Concealing. Zulm = Dislodge from the rightful place = Relegate the truth = Give preference to conjecture = Oppression = Wrongdoing = Violation of human rights]
Qur'an alone or shirk idolatry!
@@livinia296 beard for men is obligatory?
maybe you should use a blunt blade or.knofe for shaving instead of razor.
@truehikma Brother such a strong word you used here and I quote 'Quran alone or face shirk' can you explain a little detail
Allahu akbar. The topics of your videos are so important and well presented. May Allah preserve you.
Paul. You are mashallah a light of knowledge and reason. May God bless you. May God keep you true.
Simply put: 45:6 has a straight forward question that any reader of the Quran needs to think about and answer. As far as I am concerned the answer is very simple yet extremely profound.
To make matters easier in case you can’t read the Arabic text: These are God's signs that We recite to you with truth. So, in which hadith, after God and His signs, do they acknowledge
Hope this is helpful
I'm happy you talk about this issue; indeed, I received some answers from especially one Quranist on some of my comments here on your channel.
Vor 3 years ago I discovered the Quranists; I nearly married a muslima who belong to this group. When we discussesd about religion, she told about views like she's praying 3 times a day. She was unable to tell me how as well as for the rules of the pilgrimage for example. This make no sense. Maybe even without the Hadiths, like the Qur'an who is memorised since his revelation, people are praying and doing other rituals until now as the generation at the time of the Prophet (saws) did.
Yes, there's no such thing as how to do ruku how to do sujud, which one comes first ruku or sujud.
The explanation only in Hadith.
who prays three times a day??
are you sure she's a Muslim, not a jew?
@@NadDew I don't want to offend you but I think that God gave me enough intelligence to make the difference between a Muslim and a Jew.
There are different types of Quranist; some pray five times a day, some three times, there are those who believe the Salaat is not a ritual prayer which Muslims must preform daily.
@@Matt-kf4ec
I didn't mean to be rude, I was being sarcastic about how absurd their logic was, never had been in Islamic history a sect that made "a discount" on prayers...
@@ahmadfaruk8562 Birds and all in the heavens do sujood and ruku, do they bow down physically or are in complete obedience to the way Allah has programmed into them? By following and submitting to Allah 24/7, you are 'bowing down' to Him, mentally as well as physically, and this explanation is only in the Qur'an for those who submit to Allah.
Great answer Paul 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Intresting & intelligent discourse. MashAllah ( as Allah wants)!
Yes, we have to obey Allah Ta'ala and His Messenger Peace Be Upon Him.
Thank you Paul.
Insya Allah you'll go to Jannah. As long as you're grasping hard to the Deen.
You have the "knowledge which useful" jariyah..
@JurrassicBombastic cry cry cry
@JurrassicBombastic no, Allah knows what is best for us.
@JurrassicBombastic whats wrong with obeying ? See we obey prophet ... hence obeying God , cause God told so ...
im not even obeying you when you told people dont obey lol
@JurrassicBombastic Yes obey, obey, obey.
Are you prefer rebel, rebel, rebel?
What can you do to rebel from the creator of the universes?
@JurrassicBombastic Well, decision back to everyone.
I'm not responsible for your sins, and neither you are responsible for my sins.
Subhan Allah, Allah bless u brother paul, Ameen
I love / admire your approach / methodology in handling arguments referring to trusted references, wishing you guidance and being muslim , our time on earth is limited , no one knows when he will die.
Well explained! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Maa sha ALLAH great video!
May ALLAH bless you with his choicest of blessings.
Aameen.
You are so kind
Today I officially became a grown up person
Watching this video was a privilege...
Wow
وَفَوْقَ كُلِّ ذِى عِلْمٍ عَلِيم
and above every one possessed of knowledge is the All-knowing one.
@@BloggingTheology
This hit me hard...
@@StProto I mean if he is, he’s clearly still against homosexuality and the LGBT community, he’s made videos about it and community posts too.
@@StProto
I know people have different choices about many things...
Some people feel attracted to what their God forbade them...
Some people get attracted to neighbour's wife or daughter
I got attracted today towards eating a dish that my mom prepared which was forbade by my God during Ramadan
Some people want to burn every thing
Some want to kill everyone
We will not be held accountable for the crimes we didn't act on...
A person who has such attractions and yet prevents himself from crime will get the greatest reward...
If he is acting on what he is attracted to then I will try to be away from his channel...
M H Kamali's book is a brilliant work, I would definitely recommend others to read.
Wich one? his commentary on "al waraqat"?
@@user-fl1cr7ro2p the book mentioned in this video
Awesome work
Thanks a lot 😊
Brother Jake Brancatella has done exceptional work on this. He is ex-Quranist too.
What is an ex Quranist?
لا يوجد هذا اللّفظ في ديننا الإسلامي أبدا... نحن مسلمون ..
Nope, I’ve refuted many if not most of his claims, especially around Qur’an 2:143. The truth is-Jake used to be part of a Quranist 19-obsessed cult, and was then bamboozled by some sunnis who used these loose isolated verses to support brand Islam’s second scripture (i.e the Hadith).
@@StProto Having homosexual urges is not sinful-it is ACTING upon those sexual urges that is sinful. But do you know what IS “haram”? To serve & worship anything other than God, including Jesus Christ the son of Mary, who was no more than a messenger who commanded you to serve God alone-his Lord and your Lord. So will you not take heed?
@@StProto You’re spreading the same message everywhere and I’m not sure what your agenda is. What a sad act this is you’re doing. Btw being gay isn’t haram in and of itself by the consensus of the scholars, it’s the act that is a sin. God doesn’t punish you for your thoughts and feelings according to our Islamic teachings and Paul acknowledges this teaching, in one video I saw he mentions that struggles and doesn’t indulge in the sin. Just like people who love to drink but actively fight the urge. There is an immense reward in that as that is Jihad Ul Nafs (the struggle against one’s desires) which is a great deed in the eyes of God Almighty. Therefore, he has my utmost respect and adoration for that alone.
What do you aim to achieve here? Clearly the people who are subscribed to Paul’s channel respect him and he has one of the most interactive audiences I’ve seen on CZcams so whatever it is you’re trying to achieve, just move on, it’s not going to work.
According to the Qur'an, the Qur'an is a complete and perfect guide.
So, in fact everything related to Islamic teachings is present and clear in it.
As you may be aware, the Qur'an consistently places Allah and the Qur'an in a position as a prime role holder and becomes the top, first and foremost reference.
Hadith is the application of the teachings of the Qur'an. There is nothing wrong by referring to the hadith. But, first and foremost, Muslims must refer to the Qur'an.
*Qur'an is* a *guidance* and *clear proofs* of *guidance and criterion*
شَهْرُ رَمَضَانَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ فِيهِ ٱلْقُرْءَانُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَبَيِّنَٰتٍ مِّنَ ٱلْهُدَىٰ وَٱلْفُرْقَانِۚ فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ ٱلشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُۖ وَمَن كَانَ مَرِيضًا أَوْ عَلَىٰ سَفَرٍ فَعِدَّةٌ مِّنْ أَيَّامٍ أُخَرَۗ يُرِيدُ ٱللَّهُ بِكُمُ ٱلْيُسْرَ وَلَا يُرِيدُ بِكُمُ ٱلْعُسْرَ وَلِتُكْمِلُوا۟ ٱلْعِدَّةَ وَلِتُكَبِّرُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ عَلَىٰ مَا هَدَىٰكُمْ وَلَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ
The month of Ramadhan [is that] in which was revealed the *Qur'an,* a *guidance* for the people and *clear proofs* of *guidance and criterion.* So whoever sights [the new moon of] the month, let him fast it; and whoever is ill or on a journey - then an equal number of other days. Allah intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship and [wants] for you to complete the period and to glorify Allah for that [to] which He has guided you; and perhaps you will be grateful.
Qur'an Al-Baqarah 2:185
*Qur'an* is a Book whose verses are *perfected* and then *presented in detail*
الٓرۚ كِتَٰبٌ أُحْكِمَتْ ءَايَٰتُهُۥ ثُمَّ فُصِّلَتْ مِن لَّدُنْ حَكِيمٍ خَبِيرٍ
أَلَّا تَعْبُدُوٓا۟ إِلَّا ٱللَّهَۚ إِنَّنِى لَكُم مِّنْهُ نَذِيرٌ وَبَشِيرٌ
وَأَنِ ٱسْتَغْفِرُوا۟ رَبَّكُمْ ثُمَّ تُوبُوٓا۟ إِلَيْهِ يُمَتِّعْكُم مَّتَٰعًا حَسَنًا إِلَىٰٓ أَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى وَيُؤْتِ كُلَّ ذِى فَضْلٍ فَضْلَهُۥۖ وَإِن تَوَلَّوْا۟ فَإِنِّىٓ أَخَافُ عَلَيْكُمْ عَذَابَ يَوْمٍ كَبِيرٍ
Alif, Lam, Ra. *[This is] a Book* whose verses are *perfected* and then *presented in detail* from [one who is] Wise and Acquainted.
[Through a messenger, saying], "Do not worship except Allah . Indeed, I am to you from Him a warner and a bringer of good tidings,"
And [saying], "Seek forgiveness of your Lord and repent to Him, [and] He will let you enjoy a good provision for a specified term and give every doer of favor his favor. But if you turn away, then indeed, I fear for you the punishment of a great Day.
Qur'an Hud 11:1-3
love your videos, have you done any research or videos on root words and the importance of the Arabic language in the Quran
Your opinion ends up being scholarly because of your reading and depth of knowledge, your modesty keeps you in that state.
My opinion is that since you cannot 'relate' to Allah, the Messenger provides the best example. As also mentioned in the Quran itself. Essentially, if you are a 'quranist', you would end up on the Sunnah, sooner or later.
The best way is to follow the Quran and Sunnah with the understanding of the Sahaba(Salafiyah, pure Islam). May Allaah Azza Wajal aid you to continue sharing the truth with the world Ameen
What you claim as best way it’s actually hell way. Shirk way.
Quran is the first and last. The rest is culture or part of history take it or leave it, won’t effect your deen.
@@adelseddouki3375 no he's right, The best people are my generation, then the people who come after them, then the people who come after them." [Al-Bukhari, and Muslim]
In another very important hadith, the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said:
"The tribes of Israel broke up into seventy-two sects. My ummah shall break up into seventy-three sects. All of them will be in the Fire except for one: [That group] which follows what I and my Companions are following." [At-Tirmidhi]
Excellent answer sir may Allah give you the right path
Your right path is the wrong path for someone else. Vs versa.
You can’t ever go wrong if you say I only follow Quran. If you tell Allah I only trust you and I can’t trust people. You will never be asked for anything other than what’s in the Quran.
I always like your thoughts. Appreciate if you could share your thoughts on "problematic hadiths". Thank you.
Dr Hashim Kamali was my lecture teaching me Islamic Jurisprudence at the IIUM and the book referred by u was the main text book for the subject.. A brilliant lecturer he is indeed
wow!
Masha’Allah! Allah Swt bless you with more ilm and hikma and May Allah Swt bless the Muslims with proper understanding of the Deen ul Islam and to benefit from your work too Ameen.
I already ahead of the topic, im just here to listen to you narrating things. Your narrating voice is mesmerizing hahaha
Wow, thank you!
I second that!! Soothing to the ears and mind. Like the favorite teacher in the Uni, who's classes you wouldn't wanna miss!
Great. May Allah swt grant you wisdom and guidance and keep you on the right path. Those kinds of comments and suggestions stem from misguidance and can lead to thousands of people going astray in the internet age.
Though I completely agree that guidance is via Quran and Sunnah, there is no explanation given why Hadith is the material text from which sunnah should be obtained. Sunnah are idea and practices that Muslim followed since the time of the prophet and they have not changed. They were not written as hadiths are. Hadiths talk about these Sunnah but they should Be treated as historical texts and not books of facts
3.31. Say: "If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
32. Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger.: But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith.
@wim develder Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Ibn majah, ahmed, Nis'ai, Abi dawood, etc all these are people who *collected* the sayings of the prophet(saws) in one place by proving the chains of narrations, hadiths which was already written & memorized by 1000s of other major scholars of that time.. they did by as much as they can travel, argue, cross-verified by others' testimonies, and gain knowledge from the most reliable scholars who saved authentic knowledge with them, they were whole schools.. starting from Prophet(saws) to sahaba, then taba'in & taba taba'in.. They are not laymen who transferred the knowledge but the hadith sciences are so strict which makes the hadith collections more authentic than any other historical records. That's what Allah swt is saying to follow the Prophet.. Rejecting the life & sayings of the prophet certainly makes you munafiq if not kafir.
@wim develder
Imām Bukhari didn't make up hadīth.
There was hadīth written during the time of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ. The hadīth were also memorised (the two ways in which the hadīth were preserved was memorisation and being written in scribes), and transmitted generation to generation.
Imām Bukhari compiled hadīth into a book, making it easy to access hadīth.
@wim develder how does him being a persian makes him unreliable?????
All of his contemporaries have testified for his honesty and faith, the man has done an immense job in compiling the hadiths and done his best in ensuring they were authentic.
@wim develderCompiled and collected by Persians doesn’t make the hadiths unauthentic. Have respect for people.
@wim develder all of the arabs and the non arabs have sought his works because they know him to be truthful, he didn't make up the hadith, they're all hadiths which were famously propagated since the time of the prophet.
I totally agree with Paul 👍. thanks for sharing the name of the reference book. Can you pls elaborate of the authenticity and the discipline of narrating Hadith or what is called Island. I have a gut feeling that its is one of the most scientifically conducted ways of narration and quotation.
You're looking for a Mishnah. 2:68 & 18:54-8.
Brother Paul, I have some book recommendations for you:
1. Kitab-at-Tawhid (Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab)
2. Majmu' al Fatawa (Sheikh-al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah)
3. Minhaj-as-Sunnah wan-Nabawiyyah (Ibn Taymiyyah)
4. Muwatta Malik (Imam Malik)
5. Taqrib-al-Tadhhib (Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani)
6. Al-Majruhin min-al Muhadditheen (Ibn Hibban)
7. Silsilah-as-Sahihah (Al-Albani) (This book has many volumes)
8. Silsilah-ad-Daeefah (Al-Albani) (This book has many volumes)
You should get the English translations for them. They are very good books.
thank you!
All turd books, massive excretement against Islam
@@oceanmachine1906 Or so you believe...
obey messenger does not meant sunna. Quraan says obey all prophets
Obeying the messenger according to Qur'an:
There are no less than 332 Quranic verses which contain instructions from God to Muhammad to "SAY" to the people specific words. In turn, God commanded the believers to obey the messenger when he "says" to them the Quranic words he was commanded to "SAY" to them.
The following are some examples:
Say (O Muhammad), "Shall I take other than God as an ally, the Initiator of the heavens and the earth; the One who feeds and is not fed?" Say (O Muhammad), "I am commanded to be the first to submit," and do not be of the mushrikeen. 6:14
Say (O Muhammad), "Who can save you from the darkness of the land and the sea?" You implore Him humbly and secretly: "If He saves us from this, we would be among the thankful." 6:63
Say (O Muhammad), "God saves you from it, and from every affliction, then you still commit shirk." 6:64
Say (O Muhammad), "He is the One capable of sending a punishment upon you, from above you or from beneath your feet, or turn you into confused factions and have you taste the might of one another. See how We diversify the revelations so that they may understand." 6:65
Say (O Muhammad), "Come let me recite to you what your Lord has prohibited for you: Do not associate anything with Him, and treat your parents kindly. Do not kill your children because of poverty; We provide for you and for them. Do not come near immoralities, the apparent of it as well as the concealed. Do not kill any person; God has prohibited that, except in the course of justice. That is what He instructed you to do, so perhaps you will reason. 6:151
Say (O Muhammad), "Who prohibited the zinat of God which He has produced for His servants and the good provisions?" Say, "They are, during the worldly life, for those who believe, and are exclusively theirs on the Day of Resurrection." We thus detail the revelations for people who know. 7:32
Say (O Muhammad), "My Lord has only prohibited immoralities, what is apparent of them and what is concealed, and the sins, and unjustified aggression, and that you associate with God that for which He has not brought down any authorisation, and to say about God what you know not." 7:33
Say (O Muhammad), "Do your work, for God will see your work, and so will His messenger and the believers. Then you will be returned to the Knower of the unseen and the seen, and He will inform you of what you used to do." 9:105
The above are 8 examples of authentic "SAYINGS" that Muhammad was commanded to "SAY" to the people. The content of such verses therefore contain the words of Muhammad that we must obey. These are the "SAYINGS" of Muhammad that are authenticated by God in the Holy Quran.
Besides the 8 examples above, there are 324 other verses in the Quran, yes, 324 other verses that all include commands from God to Muhammad to "SAY" to the people specific words, and for the people to obey such words.
All 332 such verses constitute the legitimate reason as to why it was necessary for God to command the believers to "obey the messenger."
B- Who among the companions of prophet Muhammad ever heard any of God's revelations directly from God? No one! Consequently, they cannot obey God except through what came out of Muhammad's mouth. This makes it necessary for God to command the people to obey the messenger since he is the one who delivers to them God's message. Moreover, the messenger did not just deliver the Quran and vanish! Prophet Muhammad spent all his his years from the time he received the first revelation until his death, inviting his people to believe in the Quran and to follow it. Hence it is necessary for God to include the command to "obey the messenger" who is inviting them to accept the message (Quran).
C- The Quran was revealed to prophet Muhammad in order to deliver it to a community which was primarily populated by idol worshippers as well as followers of the previous Scriptures, namely Jews and Christians (Nasara). For the benefit of the followers of the previous Scriptures, we understand the necessity of the phrase "obey the messenger". If the command in the Quran did not contain the phrase "obey the messenger" but only a command to "obey God", the Jews and the Christians (Nasara) would say: "But we already obey God! God has sent us the Scripture and we obey it". Hence, the Quranic command to "obey the messenger" who brings the new message, endorses the new message (Quran) and not just the previous Scriptures. The Quran was indeed delivered to all mankind and is the final revelation from God to all mankind (33:40) and therefore, the Quran supersedes all previous Scriptures:
And We brought down to you (O Muhammad) the Book with truth, confirming what came before it of the Scripture and superseding it. 5:48
2- The duty of the messenger
Obey God and obey the messenger, and beware: if you turn away, then know that the sole duty of Our messenger is the clear delivery (of the message of God). 5:92
Obey God and obey the messenger. If you turn away, then the sole duty of the messenger is the clear delivery (of the message of God). 64:12
The duty of the messenger is well defined in the above Quranic words. These verses tell us that the only duty of any messenger is to deliver God's message. It follows that in the case of prophet Muhammad, his only duty was to deliver the message of God (Quran).
We also have in the above Quranic verses a very strong link between:
1- Obeying the messenger
2- The sole duty of the messenger was to deliver the message
By adding 1 + 2 = Our obligation is to obey the message he delivered.
The word 'messenger' is derived from the word 'message'. A messenger delivers a message. If there were no message there would be no messenger.
3- Is it obey "Muhammad" or "obey the messenger"?
God is the most efficient in expressing any meaning. All Quranic words are chosen by God to convey a precise meaning. There are no coincidental words in the Quran.
We never read anywhere in the Quran words such as "Obey God and obey Muhammad" or obey Jesus, or Moses. The words used are always "obey the messenger". This is to emphasise that it is the "message" of God that is to be obeyed and not the personal words or views of the messenger.
The confirmation that the obedience is related to the "message" and not the person is further reinforced in the Quranic words which assert that the only duty of the messenger is to deliver God's message: 5:99
The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of God's message), and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal. 5:99
they won't listen brother, they're top invested in their imams and shaikhs
Thank you brother this is significant
Assalamualkum Paul can I ask you a question?
Very well said Paul with valid authorized and scholarly references to the fiqh sources which cover basic Islamic belief and corresponding practices outlined by the Quranic verse that succinctly explains the sources of such jurisprudence ie the Quran, Sunnah, Ijma (Consensus) and Qiyas (Analogy) as you explained it rathwr clearly. However after reading some of the comments here it is simply mind boggling as to how on earth would a true practicing Muslim even begin to carry out simple commandment such as the solah and cleaning oneself prior to it had one not to rely on the sayings on the prophet upon whom be peace? I mean seriously, how do you even perform istinja without referring to hadith?
I love your style ...especially the end ...but that's just my opinion...
Please do a video on the Mutazilites, they are the best philosophers of all time.
best innovators of their time
@@user-jc3zt9dx2b saw a you tube video of Imam hanbali n the Mu'tazila were causing fitnah by saying the Quran was created by Allaah n Imam Hanbal gave them proof that it was the word of Allaah
Maa sha Allah.Good observation for muslims.
Salat, fasting and zakat are preserved and explained in the Quran as: Establish salat and recite what we have revealed to you, Zakariah was performing salat "standing" in the chamber, we revealed 7 recited in the sets of two, when you Prophet are among them to lead salat then let one group pray behind you, once have "prostrated" let this group step behind and let the other group join you (total two units prayed but shortened to one unit for each group in time of danger, unit ending at prostration). Three salats mentioned in the Quran and Bible. Dawn Salat, Middle Salat(Friday the day to halt commerce to perform salat) and Isha the evening Salat. Fasting: In the month of ramadan eat and drink till the white thread of light becomes visible from the black and complete your fast till layl. Zakat: Zakat (Purify) yourself by giving charity, they ask you how much should they give in charity? say give what is excess. Give charity to ....people who are needy, the travelers. Are you going to say to them to wait for one year?
Yes of course one does not find the practices they invented to serve their idols besides God. The fact: God, his prophet and the sahaba who cared to save and compile Quran, didn't compile hadiths or do you say Islam is Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet but they forgot to save essential part of Islam the sunnah in hadiths? Imam malik's muwata came 150 years after Prophet, nobody was alive to authenticate his book. the same for Bukhari, Muslim that came 200 years after Prophet...Name one hadith book authorized by God and his prophet besides Quran? In fact these are their idols who decree for them laws never authorized by God. And the guy who talks about obey God, messenger and those in authority among you....why is he interpreting one way? doesn't Quran also say to keep our voices lower than to prophet's voice? Reading Quran we find God sent Torah and previous scriptures and gave hikmah to prophets to interpret and teach scriptures. Then God kept on sending new prophets and Messengers but Muhammad was the last prophet however Muhammad had said he will be succeeded by 12 leaders. The righteous people chosen as leaders from Isaac or Ishmail side, God had promised to Ibrahim all of them will be from his bloodline. 12 leaders (imams) came but were rejected by the majority. It is as when Prophets were sent to Jews and they rejected and killed. Mahdi is like Messiah who was rejected and lives. Aren't Muslims waiting for a leader Mahdi the 12th imam to teach them islam and to guide them? why do they need him if they have Quran and piles of hadith books? and why didn't they follow 11 imams before? The Quranists are like Karaite Jews, The sunnis are like Jews and the Shia are like Christians. Sects that idolize and were forbidden to create. But alas Muhamad had prophesied these things will happen re a prophet like Moses was sent and people after Muhammad did what the people had done after Moses. I think when we don't have any prophet or leader (imam) authorized by God then we are left with what leader Ali had said: Ali narrated, Prophet Muhammad said, there is NO DOUBT that, there will be Hadiths coming after me, claiming that I have said things. So you MUST test those Hadiths from the QURAN. If it is really according to the QURAN only then accept it, otherwise reject it.
But are they really doing it? when Quran says for adultry lash 100 times and the punishment for your wives who were previously slaves is half. yet they do not repent and insist on idiolizing and importing Jews' law of stoning till death. So exactly what is the half of 100 lashes in terms of stoning till death for your ex slave wives?
When Quran says to mean mark the hands of those who do theft and uses the same word when Zulaikha's female guests had cut their own hands when they saw Joseph to explain it doesnt mean to chop off hands...the worse thing is when God actually gives example on how to deal with theft when God mentioned how Jospeh kept his brother with him putting cup in his lugguage. And how come angels don't enter if you have dog with you when in Quran the people of the cave who were guided by God had their dog with them? Yet people say God wrote these stories and examples of the past for our entertainment purpose only! as in they are nothing but the tales of the past! And when God says no compulsion in religion they put (no compulsion in accepting religion) in brackets trying to put words in God's mouth when it's not what God said. Evildoers and their laws will end up in hell because they worked for Satan against God and his religion.
Learn to make paragraphs lol
I am sooooooo proud of myself relying on the true words of God the Quran and rejecting the false wahyee they call hadeeth.
Most of it is none sense and that’s not how we got deen. It has added noting to our deen but confusion and misguidance.
always take quran as highest authority in islam
i agree with you ,, i would say rather i am humbled and thankful to be guided and thanks to Allah swt to guide me to the right path and protect us from the shaytan and increase our knowledge inshAllah
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Unfortunately you would be considered a rebel according to most sects.
And what great and brave rebel you are. You would be closer to Allah than soudaissi make prayers on kaaba.👍
IMHO, people who are doubting the authenticity of Hadits do not necessarily fall into the "quranists" group. There are indeed some "sahih" hadists that are mind-boggling to be taken in on face value. I think the Hadist scholars need to sit down and think about re-categorizing hadists into more refined groups and sub-categories.
About Professor Javed Ahmed Ghamidi, I not only believe that there is no scholar of his stature profundity of religious thought and precision of its understanding and lucidity of his articulation in the Muslim word, but I also believe that I have yet to see anybody more profound just and humane than Professor Javed Ahmed Ghamidi sahib, when it comes to commentary on social issues including human rights. May Allah bless his countless blessings upon Ghamdi sb! Ameeeeeen.
( USTAAD MOHTARAM MAY YOUR SEED PROSPER GOD WILLING)
Alhamdulillah thank you
Here is another verse for the validity of Sunnah or hadith:
"He is the One Who raised for the illiterate ˹people˺ a messenger from among themselves-reciting to them His revelations, purifying them, and teaching them the Book and wisdom, for indeed they had previously been clearly astray."
Quran: 62:2
Wisdom here refers to the sunnah of the prophet.
@wim develder where else will you get authentic sunnah of the prophet???
@wim develder May Allah guv you hidayat
@wim develder you can't extinguish the light of God and His Rasool saw. May Allah Subhawatalah give you hidayat
@wim develder The companions of the prophet s.a.w, practiced the sunnah or ahadith and transmitted orally to later generations. untill the reign of Abdul Malik bin Marwan ( 685 AD ) who gave order for the compilation or collection of the ahadith of the Prphet. Later writers also compiled and collected to the best of their knowledge.
The bukhari and Muslim are foremost of those true authectic form of the Sunnah, agreed upon by Sunni Muslims. If u are not Sunni you may have different story. Thats upto you.
@wim develder if the hadith forbids sth we forbid it and if it orders sth we do it. Thats how to practice. You sound like you know little about Islam bro. Goodbye
I would rather follow what quran said rather than sunnah..Muhammad(saw) never said follow my tradition but rather follow what muhammad(saw) on his message from what allah(swt) revealed to him..
How do you know what he did or didn't say if you reject Hadith?
You wouldn;'t even be able to understand the Quran without the Sunnah to explain many of the legal rulings within it, or the context of the verses and why they were revealed.
And the Quran also shows the Prophet sallahu alayhi wassalam received revelation and commands outside of the Quran. 1 of the clear examples being the Qibla being in Jerusalem. Allah says in Surah Al Baqarah he appointed that Qibla for the Muslims before changing it to Mecca, yet there is no verse of the Quran that commands praying towards Jerusalem.
The Prophet sallahu aalayih wassalam came to explain the Quran, implement it and teach people the religion. That is what the Sunnah is.
If we follow the "Quranist" way, we would have to figure it out for ourselves and there would be a 1000 diffeerent sects and groups all trying to interpret things for themselves.
Allah has said we are the best of Ummahs raised for mankind, so unless you're claiming Allah allowed the entire Ummah to go astray from the very beginning of Islam, and only you hadith rejectors who are a recent group are the right ones, then you are with all due respect, very dellusional.
@@mikk3150 I never reject hadith ,what I took to it is the important message from the prophet not his tradition alone but the teaching way of life.
@@mikk3150 and I forgot nowhere in quran says that quibla is in mecca of saudi arabia but later tradtionalist.
@@rassb3427 Ok so what is the true Qibla than referenced in the Quran?
@Hamza Akram I'm not interested in anything he has to say.
I want answers from you. what is the Qibla if not Mecca? Clearly you know this religion better than te sahaba who spread Islam all over the world and taught the people.
main focus for truthful hadiths are the physical aspects of islam. how to pray. how to do haj. how to fast most these aspects are now just passed down from generation to generation few muslims have Hadith books at home
Subhan'Allah, I just came across this video after responding at length on your favourite book video. So, if you wish to, please ignore that.
Quranists doesn't deny Hadith. Their hadiths are the 322 Quls in the Quran.
There are many problems with Hadith/Sunna.
A basic one: There isn't yet a Canon for the Hadiths. The Hadith followers (Sunnis or Shiites) didn't set their hadiths.
So actually you can't really be a Sunni or Shiite, because their holy literature is not known.
To make it a bit clearer: In which books is the whole Sunnah?
You'll never get an answer for this question. The may say: We recommend the Six Books or Nine Books (Sunnis) or Four Books (Shiites).
But if you ask them: is the whole Sunnah - according to your definition - in these books? You won't get an answer.
I don't like to offend anyone but it is chaotic. And it's unreasonable to follow something we don't really know.
I was asked to get the book for my PhD course with Istanbul Zaim University. I have a print copy of it.
Where do you, Paul, get time to read all these books?
I've been wondering the same thing. I'm a very slow reader.
Muhammad was a prophet and a messenger. As a messenger he had the duty of delivering the God’s message as it was revealed to him; no more no less. In his role as a messenger, he was Infallible, but in his role as prophet he was a human being prone to making mistakes or wrong judgments. As a prophet he had to rule by interpreting the laws revealed to him within his capacity as a human being, and in a manner suitable for the time and place in which he lived. His day-to-day rulings as a prophet are not binding to the Muslims of the following generations and certainly not if they are living in different parts of the world and have different cultures. Unlike the message he delivered, i.e. the Qur’an, it is binding for all the believers, anywhere and anytime.
Often people, even some scholars, do not pay attention to the way Muhammad is addressed in the Qur’an for shariah matters, or any other purpose. In Surat Al Nissa, the aya “59” refer to Muhammad the messenger not the prophet. There are many instances where people came to Muhammad, when he was alive, to rule in some matter and if he did not have an answer, he would wait till he gets one from Allah. Before His death Allah declared that He perfected the religion for us (Aya 3 in Al Ma’ida chapter 5). So, after the death of the Muhammad, the reference to both Allah and the Messenger is done by referring to the Qur’an. As for those “in authority”, as much as those who call themselves “Ulama” would interpret this to be them; this is not true. If I have a dispute with a contractor who built me a house, we do not go to one of the Ulamas; rather we go or the court refers us, to a neutral party with good knowledge about the problem. If the mechanic did a bad job repairing my car the judge between us will be a neutral mechanic or Engineer not a professor of Sharia. Same goes for all kind of disputes. One must go to a party with authority and knowledge about the subject.
To argue that the Hadith complements the Qur’an, goes against the Qur’an itself. It portrays the Qur’an as incomplete or unclear. Many verses in the Qur’an stress on that the Qur’an is clear and contains every needed shariah-wise. It further portrays incomplete work by Muhammad, who made sure the Qur’an verses were written and memorized but seems to have neglected to do the same to the hadith. Nor did the First Califs perform this duty also, while in the of Othman The Qur’an was written and copies made and sent to the major cities. If it part of the religion why was it not recorded then???
It will take tens of pages to discuss the subject of the hadith, but I will refer to the “aya No. 82 of Surat Al Nissa Chapter 4” where Allah clearly states “Do they not consider the Qur’an (with care)? Had it been from other than God they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.” The hadiths or the traditions are full of discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions. Many of these hadiths are in contradiction with the Qur’an as well.
I could go on and on, but I think the above should suffice as a tiny sample of this dilemma.
Thank you and well said! I differ with Paul’s stance on this one. He does quote hadiths in his videos but I hope that no matter how eloquent they are and spot on the topic, they are not laws rather just words of wisdom.
It amazes me how Muslims are so easily falling for the same scheme: Jews have their Talmud that deviated them from the Thora, Christians have their “Gospels according to this and that” that became the New Testament with all the contradictions it brought vs the Injeel and now… Guess what… we have Hadiths that contradict the Quran yet are blindly followed by a majority of Muslims. History is repeating itself yet we can’t see it and are very eager to point our finger at other people’s issues.
I am not a Quranist or wear any label. Not a au min or Shia or whatever just a person who believes in Allah and His message as ordained in His Quran.
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Thank you! I indeed appreciate your comments.
Salam Alaikum. I have 12 simple questions for Traditional Muslims, and I hope you could be the first person to attempt in answering them, God-willing:
*1)* Throughout the Quran, we frequently see its self-reference to itself as “Al-Quran”. Why then is there not a single place in the entire Quran where a SECONDARY scripture or divine revelation called “As-Sunnah” (the Sunnah) or “Al-Hadith An-Nabawi” (the Prophetic Hadith) is likewise mentioned? Doesn’t the Quran constantly claim that it is clear & straightforward? How then could God take the time to mention something as seemingly trivial as onions and lentils (Quran 2:61), and yet fail to clearly identify the MOST IMPORTANT source of guidance & revelation that all believers for all times are FOREVER required to follow as religious guidance? (i.e the alleged Sunnah)
*2)* Why do the words “Hadith” and “Sunnah” nevertheless amazingly appear over and over again throughout the Quran, yet never ONCE refer to what traditional Muslims use them as? (as the inspired words & teachings of the Prophet). Not only this, but the words “Sunnah” and “Hadith” are in fact often used throughout the Quran in ways that refer to the supremacy & exclusive authority of the Quran ITSELF, thus foreshadowing in an almost taunting manner what traditional Muslims would later come to believe about the “prophetic Hadith” and the alleged idea of ‘dual revelation’ (See for example Q 77:50, 46:5, 39:23). If there was ACTUALLY a second scripture or revelation ordained by God called the ‘Sunnah/Hadith’, wouldn’t this be extremely deceptive and misleading?
*3)* Why does the Quran constantly make mention of itself and it’s perfect guidance, lack of contradictions, and promise of its preservation, and so on, yet make NO such magnificent claims about the Sunnah if it is indeed a co-authoritative revelation of God to humanity? Wouldn’t we at least expect that the Quran ONCE adds something like the phrase “ والسنة” (‘and the Sunnah’) in these numerous verses where the Quran alone is uniquely mentioned as the supreme guidance & sacred revelation that God has sent down?
*4)* Why does the so-called Prophetic Sunnah (as supposedly codified in the Hadith) contradict the Quran in so many significant ways? For example, so-called “Sahih” Hadiths tell us that tiger and dogs are forbidden (haram) to eat, whereas the Quran is manifestly clear-multiple times, in fact-that the ONLY four Haram foods are carrion, blood, pig’s meat, and idol-offerings, and NOTHING more (Quran 6:145). Or for example, Sahih Hadiths tell is that the Prophet will be an intercessor on Judgement Day for those in his Ummah who committed MAJOR sins, whereas the Quran clearly states that ANYONE who commits major sins and fails to repent will be condemned to Hell, and will have NO protector, intercessor, or savior. How can these Hadith teachings be a “commentary” on the Quran (as sunnis believe about the Hadith) when they blatantly contradict the Qur’an? (P.S. Ask me for any specific references if needed).
*5)* Why do you say that the Hadith is a commentary on the Quran in the first place, when we know that the Hadith is actually just a collection of isolated reports & disjointed sayings/doings attributed to the Prophet and his companions, with less than 1% actually being direct commentary on the Quran? How can one claim this especially when considering the numerous clear & massive contradictions between the Quran and Hadith as pointed out above?
*6)* Why does the Quran constantly make mention of the Torah and Gospel, as well as the Psalms and other revealed scriptures of God-and call these “guidance” (hudā) and “beacons of light” (nūr)-while NO such honorable mention is EVER made of the supposed ’SECOND REVELATION’ that God allegedly sent down to the Prophet as the inspired ‘Sunnah’? How could God POSSIBLY fail to prioritize the divine identification of the Sunnah/Hadith-which is supposedly INDISPENSABLE for understanding the Quran itself-and yet constantly make mention of the amazing wonder & authority of the PREVIOUS scriptures & revelations, which we aren’t even required to follow anymore? Once again, wouldn’t this seem to be gravely misleading?
*7)* If we got rid of the Quran and just kept all of the authoritative Hadith, don’t you think that the current religion of Sunni Islam would still be perfectly intact? In other words, isn’t the Hadith alone sufficient for nearly everything you need to practice traditional Islam in its current form? What then is the need for the Quran under this framework? What other essential use or practical value does the Quran ACTUALLY provide that the Hadith cannot? In fact, isn’t this why the Sunni Muslim scholars of the past themselves were forced to admit that “the Quran is in MORE need of the Sunnah than the Sunnah is in need of the Quran”?
*8)* Why is there such a huge difference between the structure of the Quran and the structure of the Hadith if they are both indeed co-equal legally-binding divine revelations inspired by God? For example, the Quran is preserved word-for-word, whereas the Hadith is mainly preserved meaning-to-meaning; the Quran is unique in style and incredibly easy to memorize & recite, whereas the Hadith is clearly human literature and was not made for easy memorization; the Quran has a set ‘canon’ that is more-or-less unanimously agreed upon and was transmitted as such en masse, whereas the Hadith consists of thousands of disjointed unrelated reports that had to be individually collected by often just 1 or 2 narrators, and vigorously authenticated using human-devised methods of verification; and the list goes on. If BOTH the Quran and the Sunnah were equally divine revelations of God, why is this the case? Yet isn’t this EXACTLY what one would expect if people FALSELY attributed a human work of literature as being divine revelation alongside God’s true word?
*9)* If you were to hand a copy of the Quran to an unbiased stranger who spoke fluent classical Arabic, and had them read the Quran for the first time, from beginning to end, and with no other source of information-would they come back to you confused and puzzled, and be asking you for the secondary scripture & co-divine revelation called the “Prophetic Sunnah & Hadith” that they were allegedly supposed to read about in the Quran?
*10)* The Quran mentions that the Jinn (the beings of the unseen realm; the parallel creation to us human beings) can actually hear the Quran being recited and follow it as such (see Quran 72:1); thus we amazingly learn that the Quran is even a source of guidance for Jinn themselves. Therefore, is it required for the Jinn to follow the Sunnah & Hadith? If not, why not? But if so, how so? What model do you propose for such a thing to work?
*11)* We already know and AGREE that the previous generations before us who were given scripture & prophethood by Allah (SWT) went far astray and added all sorts of falsehoods and fake traditions to their religion, including the Talmud of the Jews (who also interestingly claim that it contains ancient traditions of Moses passed down as commentary on the Torah) as well as the writings of Paul & the early Church fathers, whom Christians have essentially given precedence over Jesus’ own words and have thereby begun to worship the Trinity and hold other serious false beliefs, which can even lead one to eternal damnation on Judgement Day. With this frightening reality in mind, shouldn’t we be wary that WE too might also have gone astray from the pure teachings of God in the Quran? Wouldn’t it be utterly FOOLISH and CARELESS of us to ignore the warnings of Allah (SWT) about the historical corruptions & fabrications of the people of divine Scripture before us, and thus fail to consider that we TOO might be deviating from the right path just as they once did?... Indeed, when Prophet Moses left his people for just 40 days to meet with God, he came back to find them committing no less than the most heinous & atrocious sin of worshipping a carved idol, even after they had seen all that God did for them in Egypt. That was after 40 DAYS; what then do you think of the Prophet’s followers after 1,400 years?...
*12)* Finally, what WOULD the Quran actually have to say for you to accept that it is the ONLY revelation brought down from God to the Prophet? The Quran already says countless times that it is clear & lucid, sufficient for guidance, detailed & self-explanatory, unmatched & supreme, and perfectly preserved-so what else could the Quran POSSIBLY say for you to realize that it is indeed what it claims to be, and that no other scriptures or revelations are mandated on us to follow?
I hope you will contemplate on these questions deeply & sincerely, and reflect with a clear & open mind. I look forward to your response. Much Salam.
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Excellent. Add 25:30 and 6:114 to these.
@@gobbledygook99 What a fun game! 50:45!!!!! 25:33!!!
50:45 We know best whatever they say, and you (O Messenger) are *not* one to compel them (to faith). So remind and warn *by the Qur’an* him who fears My threat.
25:33 [The Haqq] [Best Tafsīran تَفْسِيرًا ] Wa laa yaatoonaka bimasainn illaa ji'naaka *bilhaqqi* wa *ahsana tafseeraa*
And they do not come to you with an argument except that We bring you *the* truth and *the* best explanation. - following on from 25:30
Brilliantly said, absolutely amazing comment. May God bless you for taking the time to write this.
Indeed, in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example for whoever has hope in Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah often.Kuran:Al Ahzab 21
Your quote is a clear example of following what you have been told to follow by men when it should be Allah Guiding you.
You only have to go back to the beginning of the chapter Al-Ahzab to show the context of what example the Messenger was/is setting us, and that is the deliver the pure Message of the Qur'an that Allah gave him, not any other example written by men and turning the Deen into Bukharianism and not Islam: IQRA:
33:1 O Prophet! Be mindful of God and do not heed the deniers of the truth and the hypocrites. Surely, God is Knower, Wise. [Knower, Wise: Adopt His attributes in your human capacity. 2:138]
33:2 And follow what is revealed to you from your Lord. God is Aware of all you do.
33:3 And put your trust in God, for, God is Sufficient as Guardian.
The majority have other gods as He is not sufficient for them and they need Bukhari, Hanafi, Jafari, etc schools of mind control thought!
@@truehikma Whatever the Messenger gives you, take it. And whatever he forbids you from, leave it. And fear Allah. Surely Allah is severe in punishment.Kuran Al Hasar 7
@@ismetcirkinovic Clearly about war booty.
@@ismetcirkinovic As explained by astroFly, but I will add to this in my Qur'an only way. You have done what every Bukharian has to do in order to try and prove the false belief in the hadith and sunnah, attributed by men to the Messenger, because there is no verse in the Qur'an that says that the Messenger is allowed to give his hadith and sunnah. The words hadith and sunnah are used in the Qur'an, so Allah knew them, but He he only talks about His Sunnah, and His best hadith, the Qur'an.
Going back now to your quote, instead of copy and pasting words out of context into you heart and mind and onto paper trying to justify Bukharianism in the Qur'an, read, IQRA, the Qur'an and see what it really says and not what your devoid of wisdom ancestors have told you it means. Here is an excellent translation for you to ponder over and if you have any more verses misunderstood, out of context, and misinterpreted, then I suggest you read them properly first, in context before I humbly and respectably show you where they and you are wrong:
59:1 All that is in the heavens and all that is on earth strives to manifest the glory of God. For, He is Almighty, the Wise.
59:2 He is the One Who evicted the disbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). You never thought that they would leave and they thought that their strongholds would defend them against God. But God’s requital came to them from directions they little expected, and caused fear in their hearts. So, they dismantled their dwellings with their own hands and (got them dismantled) at the hands of the believers. Learn a lesson, then, O You who are endowed with insight! [‘God came’ = His requital came. They dismantled their immovable property to prevent the believers from benefiting from it]
59:3 And if God had not decreed banishment for them, He would have punished them harder in this world, yet for them is suffering of the fire in the life to come.
59:4 This is because they opposed God and His Messenger. If anyone opposes God, certainly, God is Stern in grasping.
59:5 Whatever palm-trees you cut down or left standing on their roots, it was by God’s leave, in order that He might disgrace those who drifted away from their treaties. [3:159. Lina = Softness, gentleness = Soft young palm-tree. Faasiq = One who drifts away]
59:6 And whatever God has turned over to His Messenger, you did not toil on any horse or camel for it. But God gives His messengers upper hand according to His Laws. For, God is the Appointer of due measure for all things.
59:7 Whatever God has turned over to His Messenger from those communities belongs to God and His Messenger (the Central Authority). [The Messenger will spend it on]
The Central Government (The Central Authority)
- The welfare of the families of the believers.
- The orphans.
- Those who still feel left alone in the society.
- The widows
- Those who have no means of earning their livelihood.
-The disabled who cannot move around looking for the Bounty of God.
- The homeless son of the street.
-Those who are on their way to join you, and
- Those who travel a distance to seek help.
So that it may not keep revolving between the wealthy among you. Hence, take what the Messenger gives you, and abstain from what he forbids you. Be mindful of God. Surely, God is Stern in grasping.
As you can see, whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, is for the needy, not greedy, and definitely not for proving the falsehood of Bukharian hadith and sunnah worship, ibadat, following, obedience.
I am a muslim by birth but mire by choice because I read and studied most important Religions
And believe me THE HOLY QURAN is enough to lead human in the right way but you should be in the position to read deep and make logical and good conclusions.
Points like preaching and fasting etc etc are not accepted by me because Allah knows better that teaching by practicing is better than writing down.about it.
I agree that sone sunnahs and Hadiths are important but you should know what to accept and what to reject because one can easily in deep thinking know which Hadith to follow and which not.
Following Bukhari doesn't mean following the Prophet!
bukhari is just the compiler lol, he just compiles the hadiths, the hadith are where the sunnah and actions are
We are not following him, we're following the hadith he compiled.
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9:101 Among the Arabs around you, there are hypocrites. Also, among the city dwellers, there are those who are accustomed to hypocrisy. You do not know them, but we know them. We will double the retribution for them, then they end up committed to a terrible retribution.
So, the prophet doesn't know who are hypocrites among the people whom he knows personally, but Bukhari, knows for sure, over the course of 200 years, who is telling the truth, and who isn't "trustworthy".
How do you reason?
@@tideturns4811 Again, the words that Bukhari compiled in his book aren't his words, but the words of companions of the Prophet(PBUH) that heard it from Muhammad(PBUH) himself. Muhammad, being a only a human, wouldn't have superhuman knowledge of every believer's faith. However, given that he is a prophet of God, it would be Reveled by Allah what what is a hypocrite and what to do with them, and he would explain it to muslims so that they know also.
I don't why you'd think that Allah would revel these verses and yet also not enlighten the Prophet(PBUH) about the finer details.
@@bensirach3586 Wrong! Bukhari never met any of the "companions", nor the "tabi'in", all he heard (maybe) were some random Arabs. He allegedly collected 600 000 hadith (maybe he was using internet), rejected 99% of hadith and included about 7 000 with repetitions.
But there are no originals of Bukhari...actually search for it...
hadith are pretty much an equivalent of Talmud (actually they contain same things) ... And, most important, they are SHIRK!
If you truly believe, do a long and detailed search.
Hi Paul , in the same Hadeeth book you talking about ... a say of Muhammad puh he did not allow writing any word other than Quran .
I believe we can learn wisdom only from hadeeth .. but not sharei'a
The extremist sunnies and sheia'as dont refer to Quran as first main resource
I am quranist
How do you know that you have the Quran that was given to the prophet Muhammad historically?
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Hi Cisse
If you are seeking the truth .. then read more books and watch more videos .
Paul is doing good if you want to know
Have a nice day 😊
Thank you very much
I have Read Muhammad Hashemi Kamali's book twice now and will read it again. Over 500 pages. Great book with many renowned usuli scholars opinions
Hello beautiful man.
I really Enjoy your lectures
I am not a Muslim, but i respect very much Islam and all the prophets.
Can you make a video about Hinduisam
Cuzz im really courius what you think about that world view
Peace
Dr zakir naik had a Debate with Hindu god like figure Sri Sri Ravi Shankar.... and it didn’t took more than 5 minutes for the Falsehood of Hinduism to unravel.
Till today the debate is barred by the Hindus against broadcasting it!
Search the video “Why is the Zakir Naik debate with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Not available on CZcams”
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ ma čitao sam malo o tome ali me zanima koje su sličnosti između Islama i Hinduističkih načinjali vjerovanja
Moraju bit neke zajedničke stvari
Jer dolazimo od istog Boga
Pozdrav 🙌
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ aha koliko sam skužio oni gledaju na način da bog nije odvojen od svemira i stvorenja, nego da je bog jedna cjelina svega i ima vise različitih bogova koji se međusobno bore ili sam te krivo shvatio?
@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ onda oni ne vjeruju da postoji nešto prije svemira
Ili nešto iznad ( Ajmo rec svemira) i boga smatraju materijom koja sačinjava sve zivo ?
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
وعليكم السلام ورحمة لله وبركاته يا اخواتي الاسلام
و عليكم السّلام و رحمة اللّه و بركاته..
تقبّل اللّه صيام و قيام جميع المسلمين أينما كانوا على ظهر الأرض ...آمين
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
وعليكم السلام ورحمه الله وبركاته
The example of those who have adopted patrons other than Allah is like the spider that has made a house, while indeed the weakest of houses is the house of the spider.
If only they know.
And ʿAad and Thamūd, and it has become clear to you from their dwellings.
And Satan had made pleasing to them their deeds and averted them from the path, and they were endowed with perception.
We site these examples for people, but no one understands them except the knowledgeable ones.
Agree with you 100%.
In order to follow the command of Allah we obviously have to follow his messenger. This does not mean that we have to follow two different books. Allah did not say follow Allah (the Quran) and his messenger (The Hadeeth).
اللّهم إنّك عفوّ تحبّ العفو فاعفُ عنّي ..
دعاء أوصى به الحبيب محمّد صلّى اللّه عليه و سلّم الحُمَيْراء عائشة رضي اللّه عنها في شهر رمضان..تقبّل اللّه طاعاتكم .. آمين..❤️ 🌷
اللهم آمين 🌺
لم يوصي به الرسول ص. بل قيل انه اوصى به. هو اقرب الى التقوى كي تزيل عنك اللوم.👍
May allah bless you.
1. The speaker said he was receiving messages from some people who advised him not to consider the Sunnah, how are these people called ?
2. Does the speaker agree with these people ?
3. What is the original quranic verse (mentioned in the first book) that urges Muslims to follow the sunnah?
4. What was the answer of the companion "Imran ibn Hussaine" to the person who wanted to take religious laws only from Quran and not from the Sunnah?
5. Summarize in Arabic the general ideas of the video. (around 10 lines)
Holding on to the words of Allah never fails you.
Holding on to people’s chitchat about matters of deen with no value will get you lost.
Trust Allah and his words
I agree with you 100%
But say that in a muslim country and they would jail/kill you. It's silly how they made Muhammed in some way over God and other way next to God.
@@ibrahim-qk7ii
Absolutely and that’s why their sect is dominant, because it’s backed by governments since day 1.
Allah mentions in the Quran 53:3
﴿وَما يَنطِقُ عَنِ الهَوى﴾ [The star:3]
(3) Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.
Means, nothing the prophet (pbuh) says is his own desire or wish but a revelation
What are 53:12 and 53:29 referring to?
@kajoli khatun So those verses addressed to the pagans, for you are they
1. Pointless ie No value
2. Entertainment value
3. Behave like this
4. Don't behave like this
5. Other
An-Nu`man bin Abi `Aiyash, on hearing me, said. "Did you hear this from Sahl?" I said, "Yes." He said, " I bear witness that I heard Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri saying the same, adding that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: 'I will say: They are of me (i.e. my followers). It will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you left'. I will say, 'Far removed, far removed (from mercy), those who changed (their religion) after me."
قَالَ أَبُو حَازِمٍ فَسَمِعَنِي النُّعْمَانُ بْنُ أَبِي عَيَّاشٍ، فَقَالَ هَكَذَا سَمِعْتَ مِنْ، سَهْلٍ فَقُلْتُ نَعَمْ. فَقَالَ أَشْهَدُ عَلَى أَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ لَسَمِعْتُهُ وَهْوَ يَزِيدُ فِيهَا " فَأَقُولُ إِنَّهُمْ مِنِّي. فَيُقَالُ إِنَّكَ لاَ تَدْرِي مَا أَحْدَثُوا بَعْدَكَ. فَأَقُولُ سُحْقًا سُحْقًا لِمَنْ غَيَّرَ بَعْدِي ". وَقَالَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ سُحْقًا بُعْدًا، يُقَالُ سَحِيقٌ بَعِيدٌ، وَأَسْحَقَهُ أَبْعَدَهُ.
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 6584
In-book reference : Book 81, Hadith 172
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 8, Book 76, Hadith
I had an issue with a quranist on my tik tok page. It was fascinating to observe the lengths he went to to try to convince me. At the same time it was disturbing to experience how powerful the confirmation bias can be.
You have no Idea how lucky you were that someone came to your door steps and tried to show you the truth and yet you shielded yourself from it.
Too bad.
@Anam Alia
😁
Good manners. Did you learn them from any particular hadeeth.
@Anam Alia
Excellent manners 👍. Good Muslims .very good example . You shine
As a new Muslim revert, I was looking for a podcast to listen to during my one hour commute to quench my spiritual thirst. One of the very first that popped up on Spotify was “Quran Talk.” It took me a couple of episodes to realize that what they were saying was slightly off, about Mohammed (pbh) and intercession and other things until I finally looked into it and discovered what Quranism was.
I must admit prior to being a Muslim I also find the idea of hadiths to be confusing and unnecessary. The Quran says it’s the only book that is needed, right? So why do Muslims need hadiths? It was only in further study and inquiry that I built a better understanding of the importance of hadith and their place in the deen.
Soubhainallah it is such a blessing to be guided to the right path. But there are branches of this path that aren’t “completely right” and as a new Muslim it can be very confusing as to what to believe and what to disregard.
Hold on to the sentiments that brought you to Islam, they will help guide you within Islam as well. _"And those who strive in Us, We will surely guide to our paths ..."_
Glad you touched on this subject. I'm not a Quranist by any means and I find their suggestion to be absurd. However, I do think strict authenticity of Hadith and how we apply Hadith should be reevaluated. But throwing a while complex tradition -- which other religions envy Muslims for having in its current form, if we're being honest -- just because we have a fee problematic Hadiths? Let's say, for the sake of argument, that 20% of Bukhari is problematic, what do we do with the rest of the really good material in the remaining 80%?
I also think we should distinguish between Mutawatir متواتر (from multiple sources) and Aahaad آحاد (singular sources) Hadiths -- especially on critical matters such as sentences.
jazak Allah khair dear bro in islam
Great video as always. Just wanted to point out that fasting is explained in the Quran in Surah Baqarah ayah 182-187.
As for prayer, yes correct, prayer is only described in the sunnah of the prophet ﷺ
@NorthWind the prophet of course
@NorthWind are you a Quranist?
@NorthWind The prophet ﷺ said in an authentic mutawatir (mass-transmitted) hadith "صلوا كما رأيتموني اصلي" "Pray as you see me pray"
Furthermore there are countless hadiths describing how to pray. Nevertheless hadiths isn't where we got our prayer method from. It has rather been passed down generation to generation for 1400 years and it is the same in every muslim country with minor differences like tasbeel(leaving the hands) and takatof(crossing the hands) which are both correct.
The hadiths talking about prayer for example are sahih and some are motawatir. You know what else is motawatir? The Holy Quran.
Do you know who mass transmitted the quran? The same people who transmitted hadith.
This goes to show that it is disingenuous to accept the Quran and reject the hadith or vice versa since they were both preserved, memorized and passed down by the same people.
Ya Allah don't make us like the people who make distinction between Allah and his messenger's guidance
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَكۡفُرُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَيُرِيدُونَ أَن يُفَرِّقُواْ بَيۡنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَيَقُولُونَ نُؤۡمِنُ بِبَعۡضٖ وَنَكۡفُرُ بِبَعۡضٖ وَيُرِيدُونَ أَن يَتَّخِذُواْ بَيۡنَ ذَٰلِكَ سَبِيلًا
(Abdul Haleem)
As for those who ignore God and His messengers and want to make a distinction between them, saying, ‘We believe in some but not in others,’ seeking a middle way,
-Surah An-Nisa', Ayah 150
أُوْلَٰٓئِكَ هُمُ ٱلۡكَٰفِرُونَ حَقّٗاۚ وَأَعۡتَدۡنَا لِلۡكَٰفِرِينَ عَذَابٗا مُّهِينٗا
(Abdul Haleem)
they are really disbelievers: We have prepared a humiliating punishment for those who disbelieve.
-Surah An-Nisa', Ayah 151
والله المستعان
Welcome to Islam
Brother
Remember , it’s the Quran which tells us to NOT divide ourselves and call ourselves Muslims not Sunni Shia
Quran alone is the Pure message of Islam
No , Muslims are the ones who follow Quran and sunnah , those who don’t are not Muslims
Pls show me ONE verse in the Quran that talks about Muhammad sunna ?
You won’t find it
Peace
Obeying the messenger according to Qur'an
There are no less than 332 Quranic verses which contain instructions from God to Muhammad to "SAY" to the people specific words. In turn, God commanded the believers to obey the messenger when he "says" to them the Quranic words he was commanded to "SAY" to them.
The following are some examples:
Say (O Muhammad), "Shall I take other than God as an ally, the Initiator of the heavens and the earth; the One who feeds and is not fed?" Say (O Muhammad), "I am commanded to be the first to submit," and do not be of the mushrikeen. 6:14
Say (O Muhammad), "Who can save you from the darkness of the land and the sea?" You implore Him humbly and secretly: "If He saves us from this, we would be among the thankful." 6:63
Say (O Muhammad), "God saves you from it, and from every affliction, then you still commit shirk." 6:64
Say (O Muhammad), "He is the One capable of sending a punishment upon you, from above you or from beneath your feet, or turn you into confused factions and have you taste the might of one another. See how We diversify the revelations so that they may understand." 6:65
Say (O Muhammad), "Come let me recite to you what your Lord has prohibited for you: Do not associate anything with Him, and treat your parents kindly. Do not kill your children because of poverty; We provide for you and for them. Do not come near immoralities, the apparent of it as well as the concealed. Do not kill any person; God has prohibited that, except in the course of justice. That is what He instructed you to do, so perhaps you will reason. 6:151
Say (O Muhammad), "Who prohibited the zinat of God which He has produced for His servants and the good provisions?" Say, "They are, during the worldly life, for those who believe, and are exclusively theirs on the Day of Resurrection." We thus detail the revelations for people who know. 7:32
Say (O Muhammad), "My Lord has only prohibited immoralities, what is apparent of them and what is concealed, and the sins, and unjustified aggression, and that you associate with God that for which He has not brought down any authorisation, and to say about God what you know not." 7:33
Say (O Muhammad), "Do your work, for God will see your work, and so will His messenger and the believers. Then you will be returned to the Knower of the unseen and the seen, and He will inform you of what you used to do." 9:105
The above are 8 examples of authentic "SAYINGS" that Muhammad was commanded to "SAY" to the people. The content of such verses therefore contain the words of Muhammad that we must obey. These are the "SAYINGS" of Muhammad that are authenticated by God in the Holy Quran.
Besides the 8 examples above, there are 324 other verses in the Quran, yes, 324 other verses that all include commands from God to Muhammad to "SAY" to the people specific words, and for the people to obey such words.
All 332 such verses constitute the legitimate reason as to why it was necessary for God to command the believers to "obey the messenger."
B- Who among the companions of prophet Muhammad ever heard any of God's revelations directly from God? No one! Consequently, they cannot obey God except through what came out of Muhammad's mouth. This makes it necessary for God to command the people to obey the messenger since he is the one who delivers to them God's message. Moreover, the messenger did not just deliver the Quran and vanish! Prophet Muhammad spent all his his years from the time he received the first revelation until his death, inviting his people to believe in the Quran and to follow it. Hence it is necessary for God to include the command to "obey the messenger" who is inviting them to accept the message (Quran).
C- The Quran was revealed to prophet Muhammad in order to deliver it to a community which was primarily populated by idol worshippers as well as followers of the previous Scriptures, namely Jews and Christians (Nasara). For the benefit of the followers of the previous Scriptures, we understand the necessity of the phrase "obey the messenger". If the command in the Quran did not contain the phrase "obey the messenger" but only a command to "obey God", the Jews and the Christians (Nasara) would say: "But we already obey God! God has sent us the Scripture and we obey it". Hence, the Quranic command to "obey the messenger" who brings the new message, endorses the new message (Quran) and not just the previous Scriptures. The Quran was indeed delivered to all mankind and is the final revelation from God to all mankind (33:40) and therefore, the Quran supersedes all previous Scriptures:
And We brought down to you (O Muhammad) the Book with truth, confirming what came before it of the Scripture and superseding it. 5:48
2- The duty of the messenger
Obey God and obey the messenger, and beware: if you turn away, then know that the sole duty of Our messenger is the clear delivery (of the message of God). 5:92
Obey God and obey the messenger. If you turn away, then the sole duty of the messenger is the clear delivery (of the message of God). 64:12
The duty of the messenger is well defined in the above Quranic words. These verses tell us that the only duty of any messenger is to deliver God's message. It follows that in the case of prophet Muhammad, his only duty was to deliver the message of God (Quran).
We also have in the above Quranic verses a very strong link between:
1- Obeying the messenger
2- The sole duty of the messenger was to deliver the message
By adding 1 + 2 = Our obligation is to obey the message he delivered.
The word 'messenger' is derived from the word 'message'. A messenger delivers a message. If there were no message there would be no messenger.
3- Is it obey "Muhammad" or "obey the messenger"?
God is the most efficient in expressing any meaning. All Quranic words are chosen by God to convey a precise meaning. There are no coincidental words in the Quran.
We never read anywhere in the Quran words such as "Obey God and obey Muhammad" or obey Jesus, or Moses. The words used are always "obey the messenger". This is to emphasise that it is the "message" of God that is to be obeyed and not the personal words or views of the messenger.
The confirmation that the obedience is related to the "message" and not the person is further reinforced in the Quranic words which assert that the only duty of the messenger is to deliver God's message: 5:99
The sole duty of the messenger is the delivery (of God's message), and God knows what you reveal and what you conceal. 5:99