Elections 2024: Will you consider voting for a small party or an independent?

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  • čas přidán 4. 04. 2024
  • The 2024 elections is shaping up to be a hotly contested one, both in the Western Cape and South Africa. Over the course of the last decade, several new parties that have formed as well as the introduction of independent candidates who will contest the elections in 2024.
    Will these new political parties and independents make their way into parliament after the elections?
    Lester Kiewit hosted an election debate in the lead up to the 29 May polls, featuring independent candidate Zackie Achmat, FF+ representative Peter Marais, NCC president Fadiel Adams, Rise Mzanzi's Axolile Notywala and Action SA's Angela Sobey.
    This debate took place on 3 April 2024.
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Komentáře • 108

  • @NationalColouredCongressSA
    @NationalColouredCongressSA Před 2 měsíci +10

    Found it strange why Fadiel had to fight to speak and everyone else got a nice free and clear ride

    • @Asia10175
      @Asia10175 Před 2 měsíci +5

      100'% that was very strange...why are the making as if coloured marginalization is not a real thing

    • @neilanadams5173
      @neilanadams5173 Před 2 měsíci

      Not just Fadiel, he kept interrupting Peter as well, these two have the most politically incorrect views, hence Lester's masters speaking in his ear to interrupt

    • @JuxtaposeZA
      @JuxtaposeZA Před 22 dny

      But Fadiel speaks a whole lot bullshit. He blow hot air like theres no tomorrow.

  • @danieldavids5934
    @danieldavids5934 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Zachie Achmat has got to be the most disrespectful and annoying politician ever. Your behavior provides insight to what your party represents. I could never.

  • @herbtuck1481
    @herbtuck1481 Před 2 měsíci +5

    This station doesn’t invite the Patriotic Alliance must be sponsored by the DA

    • @tonitappous2422
      @tonitappous2422 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Our People Love Criminals in Politics, Citizen Concerned, You Tube.

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 Před měsícem

      @@tonitappous2422 Which politicians are not criminals. PA and NCC is exposing DA criminality.

  • @user-pd5tv3jb2s
    @user-pd5tv3jb2s Před 2 měsíci +6

    Call me what you want, I am classed "coloured" and unashamedly identifies with Peter (to a certain extend), but definitely with Fadiel in entirety. Rise NCC.

  • @henryrossouw930
    @henryrossouw930 Před 2 měsíci +8

    All fighting for a pay cheque and all talk and no substance.

    • @jenodamons5408
      @jenodamons5408 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Lol..White PPL can't understand that coloured majority got a alternative to the White OPPRESSERS and NCC is that vehicle for us

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 Před měsícem

      You wish, these people are tired of DA using Coloured votes to prop up White Privilege. No more, Coloured people's eyes have opened..

  • @Clayzzy
    @Clayzzy Před 2 měsíci +4

    VOTE for the MPC!!

    • @rasch3126
      @rasch3126 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Who? Never even heard of such a party

    • @JuxtaposeZA
      @JuxtaposeZA Před 22 dny

      ANC gatborsel, the reason why we are no longer in majority in our hometown.

  • @JuxtaposeZA
    @JuxtaposeZA Před 22 dny +1

    Imagine voting for Rise MZANSI with an imported candidate 😂😂😂

  • @danewillams6799
    @danewillams6799 Před měsícem +4

    DA DA DA 💙💙

    • @user-pd5tv3jb2s
      @user-pd5tv3jb2s Před měsícem

      For the longest time the DA has been playing my people and scaring us against the ANC. Coloured people are sick of both of these parties who just uses us when it suits them. By time we vote for our own. Be unapologetic, Vote Coloured. Vote CCC (NCC)!!!

    • @danewillams6799
      @danewillams6799 Před měsícem

      @@user-pd5tv3jb2s I dont trust parties who has a race in thier name but call other parties racist, or parties who say coloured people must work in coloured areas and black people must work in black areas.

    • @clintonslinger8525
      @clintonslinger8525 Před 18 dny

      @@user-pd5tv3jb2s 🤣

  • @linixkai1121
    @linixkai1121 Před 2 měsíci +9

    NCC all the way, vote for real change

  • @herbtuck1481
    @herbtuck1481 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Invite Gayton McKenzie from the PA so the truth can be told tell it as it is

    • @tonitappous2422
      @tonitappous2422 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Why I Cannot Vote For Gayton McKenzie, Citizen Concerned, You Tube.

    • @tombimashri8149
      @tombimashri8149 Před měsícem +1

      ​@tonitappous2422 you problem Gayton is a reformed guy who believes nd wants his country nd people to grow nd straighten out their country for a Better tomorrow. Viva PA

  • @conradrichards3363
    @conradrichards3363 Před 28 dny

    A lack of proper leadership and service delivery in one province has caused migration to anotger province and caused new problems .

  • @conradrichards3363
    @conradrichards3363 Před 28 dny

    I like the idea of equal pay for politicians

  • @neilanadams5173
    @neilanadams5173 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why did Lester keep interrupting Peter?

  • @patrickrichards6000
    @patrickrichards6000 Před měsícem +2

    Koisan

  • @conradrichards3363
    @conradrichards3363 Před 28 dny

    We all want the same outcome , thats to get the ANC out. What is clear win in our democracy is that there is a mix of youth and experience which to ensure fairness which the corrupt ANC is not

  • @thabangmnguni6539
    @thabangmnguni6539 Před 2 měsíci +8

    ai i am Black but Fadiel Adams makes more sense than all these clowns

  • @Gman19768
    @Gman19768 Před měsícem +1

    Zachie sal n puppet bly ou Zachie we don't see you tsek.

  • @Ec0ssaise555
    @Ec0ssaise555 Před měsícem +1

    Viva ANC Viva. Amandla awetu.down with all of the rascist politicians. DOWN

  • @MoreThanRuan
    @MoreThanRuan Před 2 měsíci

    I’m voting Organic Humanity Movement (OHM) because they’re the only party promoting an entire new political system. Putting and end to political parties and funding by corporations & wealthy individuals which will promote independent candidates and allow the electorate to vote directly for candidates all the way up to the president. Putting democracy directly in the hands of the people and putting South Africa first.

  • @romanussaal712
    @romanussaal712 Před měsícem

    I'm still looking forward to hear from Political Parties tackle Goverment PetroSA for the high fuel prices...let's start there, because wether we like it or not ...fuel and diesel ⛽ bcmes part of our daily basic needs ... Whatever we do in South Africa you need affordable petrol & diezell to make our Transport systems works, you need affordable petrol & diezel for farmers to produced affordable food for the Nation to eat ...

  • @shanaazcloete8531
    @shanaazcloete8531 Před měsícem +1

    i AGREE WITH FADIEL, TOURISM CREATES JOBS FOR FOREIGNERS INSTEAD OF LOCALS, DA NEEDS TO GO. ZACKIE CAN DENY FOR ALL HE WANTS BUT PEOPLE HAVE EYES. I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO IS BLIND TO THE TRUTH.

  • @reecevanpletsen975
    @reecevanpletsen975 Před 17 dny

    Zackie stirring the pot 😂

  • @NdanduNekhavhambe
    @NdanduNekhavhambe Před měsícem

    Yes we need youth in our legislature and they are in small parties

  • @jenodamons5408
    @jenodamons5408 Před 2 měsíci +9

    My whole family and friends moved vote from DA to NCC in western cape

    • @MicahMclaughlin
      @MicahMclaughlin Před 2 měsíci +1

      You mos want ANC in Western Cape 😂

    • @jenodamons5408
      @jenodamons5408 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@MicahMclaughlin TOXIC ANC Hell NOooo..all we want is a coalition western cape Soo the coloured majority have a say around the table..for fairness and equality and justice for the coloured child

    • @shanaazabrahams1319
      @shanaazabrahams1319 Před 2 měsíci +2

      NCC will form coalition with ANC

    • @MicahMclaughlin
      @MicahMclaughlin Před 2 měsíci

      @@jenodamons5408coloureds don’t even care about coloureds, NCC is using your emotions against you

    • @MicahMclaughlin
      @MicahMclaughlin Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@jenodamons5408you want a coalition with who ? You won’t go into coalition with DA , so ANC is your only option? Think about that. The ANC governing Western Cape mal

  • @andrewarries9344
    @andrewarries9344 Před 2 měsíci

    There are just too many political parties.

  • @caesar3909
    @caesar3909 Před 2 měsíci +7

    ActionSA or Rise Mzansi would not be a wasted vote at all.

    • @user-md4op6ko3y
      @user-md4op6ko3y Před 2 měsíci +1

      Agree 100 percent the basic income grant is a joke the question is where will the money come but this would surely have to. be implemented by National Government ANC I do sometimes think that it's ironic that South Africa is one of the richest countries in the World so much mineral wealth Gold Diamonds Platinum ect but the masses of the poor of the poorest people that live in South Africa don't see a cent the Multi Corporations like the Oppenheimers are so filthy Rich and i suppose it goes back to Colonialism and the fact that South Africa is still very industrialised South Africa is mainly based around Industry and services model so this only creates wealth for the middle class and the very rich i dont know how this can be changed and we are a Democracy that relies on Free market Trade but this would make an interesting Debate The DA do not have the money to implement a basic income grant in the Western Cape some excessive pressure would have to put on the ANC but it is evident they dont care about the poor they are all stinking Rich

    • @shanaazabrahams1319
      @shanaazabrahams1319 Před 2 měsíci +3

      The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

  • @user-vl1mq7ww5n
    @user-vl1mq7ww5n Před 2 měsíci

    No, they can't deliver!!

  • @reecevanpletsen975
    @reecevanpletsen975 Před 17 dny

    Rise M take on the law enfoerment just lost them my vote and i am sure im not only 1

  • @sammlamlijacobs1691
    @sammlamlijacobs1691 Před 2 měsíci +6

    ActionSA ... let's fix Western Cape

  • @user-hs2cj8yv6r
    @user-hs2cj8yv6r Před 2 měsíci

    As black person i will vote for an independent white man Liebenberg

  • @jlstrydom7848
    @jlstrydom7848 Před 28 dny

    Zachie Achmat is annoying and entitled, I hope he doesn't set foot in parliament.

  • @mashobanevusimuzikhumalo2415

    😂😂

  • @KazieD
    @KazieD Před 2 měsíci +2

    What does Fadiel mean white people found him here 😂😂😂😂 does he think he is khoi

    • @Asia10175
      @Asia10175 Před 2 měsíci

      All cape coloureds have khoi blood

    • @Asia10175
      @Asia10175 Před 2 měsíci

      Fadiel is right all cape coloureds are of khoi decent..colonialists,apartheid regime tried to convince us we have no identity ...whats wrong with wanting your identity back?

    • @KazieD
      @KazieD Před 2 měsíci

      Definitely not all. He's probably 20% at most and the rest of his dna is from India or Madagascar. He must check his dna. ​@@Asia10175

    • @KazieD
      @KazieD Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Asia10175Khoi people dont look like that 😂, you guys are mixed race. Yes you may have Khoi blood but its probably 20% and the rest is from all over the world including slaves brought in from Angola.

    • @davidoctober788
      @davidoctober788 Před 2 měsíci +2

      No thanks to your forefathers as well and if 20% of the oldest and strongest bloodline makes people uncomfortable what won't 100% do

  • @zunabukosi9679
    @zunabukosi9679 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Bunch of immature haulers... The sober ActionSA and RiseM representatives were way better than these unscrupulous men (host included).

  • @ThembaTsela
    @ThembaTsela Před 2 měsíci

    where is the MK, it's potentially big,but as a new party it should participate at the local level

    • @rasch3126
      @rasch3126 Před 2 měsíci

      MK is not a feature in the Western Cape. It may have a fair share of popular support in KZN and GP but not here.

  • @romanussaal712
    @romanussaal712 Před měsícem

    Let's be real let's apply sence of logic....amongst Coloureds, Blacks and Indians..we must not oppressed and dominated each other.....However people in the Ecape especially people coming from the former Transkei/Ciskei have more Communal Land rights than people in Wcape people in Wcape don't have their Communal Land rights....Lastly if more than a Million people from one Province in South Africa in the country migrated 2 another Province in South Africa in the Country. .for whatever reason..than surely we have serious problems in the Country ..

    • @tombimashri8149
      @tombimashri8149 Před měsícem

      Unfortunately Indians don't support Coloureds they always sway to those who give them favour regardless of all the Unfairnessesss In the country. Why are Indians betraying Coloureds is it the shame that many coloureds are half their children. Why are Indians neglecting coloureds

  • @patrickrichards6000
    @patrickrichards6000 Před měsícem

    Shame ne

  • @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
    @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou Před 2 měsíci +2

    Vote for the most popular colour,yes blue, we have a big blue sky,yes we have a big blue sea ,how can you not shout out for only blue,only blue will do,only blue can do,only blue has done.very simply put,its blue for me its blue for you.

  • @tombimashri8149
    @tombimashri8149 Před měsícem +1

    Viva PA Gayton Mckenzie nd all his followers.

  • @azritmaritz5178
    @azritmaritz5178 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Where is the Patriotic Alliance....viva Gayton McKenzie for President

  • @MicahMclaughlin
    @MicahMclaughlin Před 2 měsíci +3

    DA all the way💙

  • @user-bf7iq1sl7e
    @user-bf7iq1sl7e Před 2 měsíci +2

    Lester, your a bad political host, maybe you should stay away from facilitate debate,my reason is clear, you are bias, you make distinction between you panel, you try to favor you a certain opinion, please do yourself a favor, slay away from open debate's

  • @dwightisaacs8932
    @dwightisaacs8932 Před měsícem

    The guy from rise Mzanzi came out looking better out of this discussion.

  • @user-bz6je2ri1g
    @user-bz6je2ri1g Před 2 měsíci +1

    No it's a waste of time to vote for a small party

  • @NationalColouredCongressSA
    @NationalColouredCongressSA Před 2 měsíci +3

    NCC of Niks.... Vote CCC ...29 May 2024

  • @Fl1ntsto93
    @Fl1ntsto93 Před 29 dny

    Lester, very disappointing sir. Very disappointing. Your bias is off the charts. You need to allow the contraversial stuff. Be brave ! Take the risk.

  • @khanyiso514
    @khanyiso514 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Viva EFF viva!!!❤❤

  • @Frozzy_Wozzy
    @Frozzy_Wozzy Před 2 měsíci

    Everyone is speaking in hypotheticals and keeps selling dreams . Why not set up an agreement annexture that what is in your manifesto must be adhered to fully by the end of your term or face judicially . The politcal atmosphere has been tainted by people who are after power and money , funny the 25k question ignored ... I also enjoy watching people openly showing hatred towards me for just being alive . Rather focus on the Top 100 wealhiest South Africans and compare race like you simpletons want to complain about and look at business or companies owned and contribution to work generated and capital generated tax collected by sars .

  • @MapekaMosesi
    @MapekaMosesi Před měsícem

    Fadiel raises fair points but his anger will lead to people not taking him seriously

  • @KazieD
    @KazieD Před 2 měsíci +3

    ActionSA or nothing! 💚💚💚🙌🙌🙌

  • @LettieBerling
    @LettieBerling Před měsícem

    Stop being highing then God He made nationsAnd gave them each the own language and colour because of there sins