J. Cole Apology was MOIST | J. Cole Drops out of Big Three Rap Beef w/ Kendrick & Drake
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He spent years saying no one wants to mess with him because he'd destroy them. 😂
Every rapper says that...why can't he say it.
@@morrisandati5304BC HE CANT BACK IT UP CLEARLY WTF? 😂😂😂
When that person is your friend and you truly respect them….that changes things. Who wants to and doesn’t feel bad about shitting on your friends for fun or prestige…if you can disrespect your friends and not feel bad, you ain’t really friends I think.
@@ivoryboyd7168even though your friend shitted on you?
@@yeahisaidit4553Kendrick didn’t shit on Cole bruh you’re trippin
Whenever these guys talk about something I know about, it really makes me question what they say about shit I don’t know about cus these Mfs stay saying BULLSHIT
Facts cause we’re talking about rap ability and lyricism and Andrew talking about who’s getting played in a club
Yea when he said drake is far above the other two, NOT counting financially. I was like: “HUH?!! Who IS this guy??!!” Lol Even in FPS Cole was not only on Drakes level, he was spiking above it. And Kendrick….that dude been GONE, comes back on a random feature and EVERYONE is looking at him. Lol
wise analysis
based on that i will skip this one.
Facts. And very smart. People don't be thinking like that these days.
Schultz, Muhammad Ali was Infamous for saying that He's The Greatest bro.
Yea schulz is lowkey a sellout, he just be saying anything. Floyd is not better than Muhammad Ali. Lmaooo not even close is floyd one of the greats yes is he a better boxer than the HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION FOR NUMEROUS YEARS FUCK NO
Have you guys noticed that Andrew is acting real disrespectful with Akash lately? Seems like bro is jealous of Akash's comedy success, can see it written all over his face and in his attitude!
@@_Trey-3floyd is by far and away better than Ali dog what are u even onS
@@papertiger9845 bro you’re a clown if u think that
@@papertiger9845 floyd has the best technical boxing skills this is from a floyd fan btw but if u actually box or know boxing its easily Muhammad ali
I agree with Al. Dude been poppin his shit for the last 3 years. Then he Finally gets tested like he says he wanted...then folded super quick like a wet paper. Mann. SMH 🤦♂️
J fold
Sure bro but that's what you're supposed to say as a rapper. I've said I'm the best rapper in random freestyles with my friends when i was younger, i never believed that shit.
@@kenshn22828terrible analogy
@@Jay62812 Exactly
@kenshn22828 if you're gonna say that, in a WRITTEN verse you should believe it. Imo
It’s not just that J Cole said he’s the best, it’s also because he deliberately stated in multiple verses that he’s ready for a battle, he wants the smoke, all these rappers are scared, no one can beat me one on one, etc. then when the moment finally comes and the world is watching he basically said i changed my mind i don’t want the smoke 🤦🏻♂️ it’s a slap in the face to us J Cole fans because we believed him all this time when he was saying “anybody can get it try to diss me and it will be a funeral blablabla” and now ALLL that shit he was talking just sounds fake. That’s why we’re frustrated. We can’t even listen to his music like we used to because all that battle talk sounds like bullshit now. It’s hard to be tough on him because he’s such a nice guy but in the words of dave chappelle sometimes you have to be a fight like a lion so you can be peaceful like a sheep.
He's talking about killing niggas on features, not manufactured rap beef. Man, y'all be having some HORRIBLE takes!
Nah Andrew. All 3 of them been saying that they are the greatest. Not just Drake. J. Cole been saying that a lot the last few years.
Even within the same project he just dropped he proclaims it. Intro to “Ready ‘24” he was talking crazy
Anybody that isn’t delusional, knows that Drake has been the guy!
@@Capothekid Exactly. Crazy
Schulz saying the gap between Drake and Kendrick being that wide is crazy. Good Kid is STILL the longest running rap album on the charts so there are a lot of people still playing Kendrick.
Overall it's not close. Streaming, followers, album sales drake is ahead by a lot. Gkmc is probably best rap album of the decade tho.
@@thialhoinj1971Followers ? Are you okay ? Kendrick Lamar is not even active on social and social media followers do NOT translate into actual sales either
No we not on this side of the globe but we definitely playing Drake
Kendrick isn't versatile enough, doesn't appeal to the masses.
@@deezyfbaby69 appeal to the masses is arguable. His versatility is not. His multiple flows, voices, and inflections is just one example.
*Bro Alexx like 50, n now he gon start painting his nails??* 💅 😂
Yeah that’s weird af
@@tapsunofficialthat’s ghey as fuck
Bro’s favorite rapper is Drake
@@uchihaclan77 really? So he is a fan pop music and not rap. I like Alex otherwise, but I disagree with him on Drake
These people take being successful as being a better rapper. They are not to be taken seriously.
Just cause Jay is way more successful and has won more awards, doesn't mean that artistically, the gap between him and Nas is huge. It's all subjective on who is better but don't say the gap is huge.
Other than the good 4:44 and American gangster, Jay stopped dropping quality albums after his retirement album. At what time did he get past Nas by a huge margin?
Alex: I've never been so disappointed 💅
What pisses me off the most is that he's good enough to challenge him. It's like in boxing; yeah, in the end, Floyd outpointed Manny, but at least Manny stayed in the ring until the end and showed his greatness in a losing effort. Maybe Kendrick ethers him, but J. Cole can make a Takeover. It's like he was too scared to reach for greatness.
Boy said he responded to “That’s it” ninja forgot it was “Like that” 😂
They can say anything in front of Alex that disrespects black people and he never says nothing he’s really a 🤡
Bro look at his hands he soft as it get. He might be leaning the other side by now
What did they say about black people ?
8:10 Muhaamad Ali's nickname was 'The Greatest' ofc Cole wrote that bar thinking he was the best. Schulz 100% knows this with his background in boxing.
yes rap is a competition but with cole and kendrick they came up together and and to make a diss track you have to get personal. he even said himself he tried to downplay his discography knowing damn well it's a great catalogue. i do agree, it is a little soft but beefs can get personal, even if it just starts off as rap.
J cole must know this already about rap can get personal. It didn’t even get personal yet. Why did he drop a who diss song if he knew this. He is still my favourite rapper right now but he folded in 2 days after years of saying his the best and im ready to take the crown. Cant look at him the same.
@@MalikMoorBeatz if he ya favorite rapper then don't forget when he said he doesn't want to be king of rap on forest hills drive. take the crown, he don't really want it
Yea I get what you’re saying but the problem is Cole has been acting like he’s been waiting for years for someone to slightly come at him. Someone comes at him and he drops a really good 1st diss song. Then pulls out b4 a reply!!!! That’s scary!
The Jay Z take over Nas is bollocks. There is only 1 GOD MC. Nasir Jones. Not money, not wife not billionaire shit. Simply the best MC. Esco stand up!!!!!! Andrew doing the same between Drake and Kendrick.
These guys are casuals. Real ones know Esco the GOAT.
@@lsibley11Nas is the one. Yo
😂😂😂🤡🗑 THEY SOME CLOWNS FUNNY THING IS I REALIZED THEY ALL ABOUT NUMBERS SALES STREAMS CHARTS RECORDS STATS WHAT THAT HAVE 2 WITH SKILLS ANS CATALOG THEY DON'T KNOW HIP-HOP RAP AT ALL JUST THE BIGGER POPULAR NAMES CASUALS FR FR ALL OF THEM WAS HELLA WRONG AND THEY SAID FLOYD BETTER THAN ALI
DRAKE BETTER THAN KENDRICK LAMAR J.COLE DISRESPECTFUL WRONG AT THE SAME TIME ON ALL TAKES HERE 😭😂🤣💀🗑🤡 EVEN THE JAY-Z BETTER THAN NAS NOT AS DISRESPECTFUL BUT WRONG 2 CRAZY CASUALS TAKES ALL OVER THE PLACE.
🧢 JAY-Z is the one true GOAT 🐐
Nas ain't betyer than jayz stop it ,lyrically slightly better like drake and kendrick,but all the other categories in rap matyer and jayz and drake laps nas and kendrick by miles!!.dont@me
The Spider-Man meme definitely isn’t him looking at Drake. Drake would never apologize 😂💯
Not even Logic is this soft, Cole is closer to Hopsin thank he is Kendrick but all his kid fanbase gassed him up for years.
i understand he made a mistake but lets not get disrespectful
Worst take of all time
facts
@@waf2lit Cole is babies first lyrical rapper
@@TheSnoozeFox what bruh?
I prefer this documentary style camera thing happening
“I’ll probably go to hell if Jesus ask for a feature” - Cole
This dude wasn’t afraid to diss Jesus but was afraid of Kendrick 😂
A couple of the guys in this podcast switch between financial and popularity success and “whos the best” like they are the same thing. Thats stops the conversation from moving.
Also saying: “Jay Z is still big even after nas” or “pusha t is still not greater than drake”
You nees to understand every beef has context, the context of those beefs wasnt “whos the greatest of all time”. The context was two rappers having personal problems with each other and handling it.
The Cole Drake Kendrick beef context is EXPLICITLY “Which on of us massive rappers is the best with the pen.”
And J Cole basically said: “I dont wanna fight for it, I quit.” THATS why people are shaming him.
Cole is the avatar
Roku😢
Kendrick is avatar Kyoshi 😂
In my opinion, I feel Kendrick's verse was based on reaching that pivotal point of being fed up with being spoken on as if he's 1 of 3, the constant comparison to them, doing interviews with questions about them, and not as the individual artist he is. Plus, I think 'First Person Shooter' was what did it, especially when Cole didn't only mention him, but made the Big 3 label and the who's the best out of them line. Hence, him saying, "F*ck the Big 3, it's just Big me!!!" But, I think that could've played a slight role in why Cole apologized.
That Sketch reference was so good. Haha
People who aren’t of the culture speaking on who impacts the culture is insane. Saying drake has more cultural impact than Kendrick is the reason we need to gatekeep more
Imagine coming to these guys for a sound hip hop argument 😂😂😂
bruh it’s not about who wins. even though jayz and drake lost… they still stood on business so no one really lost respect for them. rap is a sport bruh. rap battles started to stop the killing and bloodshed that rap game had before. it’s like going into the y, calling out everyone in there then someone toss you the ball and you run away crying.
they said Greensboro 😭
Andrew has been on a speed run of stupid ass opinions. This dude pretends to listen to hip hop and shouldn’t even be talking
I can't take a dude with painted nails seriously... I am not even sure what Alex said, I was just dumbfounded by the painted nails
Can’t say you’re the ALI of the big 3 than do the softest none-mamba mentality ish ever
For storytelling over their own production ain’t nobody fkn with Cole. For building up and running one of the illest labels in the game and keeping his team on the illest production and fed ain’t nobody fkn with Cole. Rapping yeah he dope sometimes. But the work he does overshadows all the bars bs. How competitive is Kendrick with making sure all of top dawg is alive and eating? Absoul attempted suicide and Kendrick left TDE not even there for support. What’s the last classic Kendrick or Drake produced for anyone let alone themselves. He deserves to brag more in his rhymes than they do because his actions are stronger than some words 🤷♂️
I don’t know if y’all remember the scene in Django where he walking in the room where the two white men was watching the two slaves fight. It’s funny how bro said he wants to see two black men fight when the whole purpose is just to be entertained. They’re screaming peace when there is no peace.
With that last question, y'all east coast. Out west , king fu keeny is bumped on a regular basis.
Since Cole 'apologized,' has anything really changed about his rapping ability?
How many times did Schulz interrupt Akash? Never let him finish his point.
Coke in a glass bottle is GOAT'd and I dont even like Coke normally haha.
I read your comment at the exact same time as akaash was saying it 😂
I ain’t gonna lie there was some good point made towards the end… aside from the the drake shiiii. Drake has sales/numbers and that’s it. Kendrick has awards, recognition for quality, and respect and admiration from his peers something drake has yet to receive.
Ya first Eminem runs from benzino
Now Cole apologizing
What happened to hip hop?
This is anti hip hop
He is happy with the Bronze, listen to Heaven's EP
After Ak clowned him for that, he been showing & proving that he should get gold or at least silver.
But after this, he's Certified bronze 🥉 And tbh, now that bronze may even be up for the taking now. Mann. SMH 🤦♂️
Bro is cole is almost 40 too. He ain't from this young era
To be fair all 3 of them close to 40. Kdot - 36 Drake - 37
@theophania4239 I'm just sayin dude implied that cole was from the young era
Alex called the Track “That’s it”😂 cmon y’all been doing this way too long to be getting shii wrong
Schultz is out of his fucking mind if Kendrick and Cole aren’t up there with Drake 🤨
The thing is, is that j.cole has never been anything without Kendrick. Look at the catalogue.
Clearly aint no real boxing people if you ever call Ali the Snapple casuals goat and Floyd's the greatest with purests. Y'all sound like the casual here got it opposite. Ali is definitely one of jf not the goat considering he fought everyone the people wanted him to fight. Only boxing heads will understand that Floyd's great but likely not the goat, many would consider a sugar ray Robinson first
We need Charlemagne in the room who actually has a solid understanding of the situation and is completely based when it comes to his topic
13:41-14:13 Well freaking said
Yeah I would agree with Andrew earlier, if I look through Cole career especially way earlier on he has been sitting comfortably at 3 and enjoying it and there's nothing wrong with that I appreciate and respect for him knowing himself and doing that, know for the last 4 years I'm not sure what happened if it was his ego, his boys, the streets whatever for the last 4 years he has been on his goat talk, saying no one want to mess with me, I'm the face of death, I'm Ali, you don't get to do all of that and then back out.
There are fans, enthusiasts, and peers are,levels that make up public opinion. Fans don't rap so they don't understand the nuances involved in the art. Enthusiasts can distinguish a song in history. Peers understand everything that goes into creating the song like skillset. Drake fans are typically people that don't rap or care about distinction. Just want a good time and that's fair. But when like buying a painting or a one of one art, Kendrick creates a body of work that holds value. Just as Tupac and Marvin Gaye songs still resonant. As selling as a Toyota Camry is, the value is not going up on old ones. Then there is Bentley, Porsche, and Ferrari. That's the difference between Drake and Kendrick music. Both good but different value
What’s up with dude Alex’s hands?
Keanu Reeves of rap
😂😂
I’m so sick that Cole pulled back so fast! Bro dropped a nice bagger to start it off and pulled back the next night lol!
The drake meat riding is crazy
I think Cole must of heard Drake's response
The black dude was j coles suburban neighbor
He’s tripping on saying the Cole diss track wasn’t hard. They was cool so he didn’t wanna lean into him like he hates him,, but he def blacked his eyes up!
If he wanted to go in fr he could have, didn’t even bring up Nardwuar
Shulz doesn’t know hip hop. He sounds crazy
J cole is music has to start sounding different. Anything about being the best has to stop.
Yall are gonna make cole. Drop fall off soon with a bonus track for kenny
Greensboro NC check in 🫡
40 plus year old ny guys goin through it😂
Earthquakes🫨, Total eclipse 🫣... Now this 😱
The signs are all there
I have questions; What do you guys gain from beefs because it doesn't make sense to me? Is it because of the hip-hop ego? Lastly what will make impact the two guys coming together to make something together or produce three or four songs dissing each other?
The culture of Rap & Hiphop is inherently centered around ego and being the best. So when you see rappers going at it with their ego on the line, you know you will see the best versions of themselves on their diss track. And as fans this would be like watching, Floyd Mayweather and Manny Paquiao fighting in their prime. It's rare to see to rappers on the top going at it.
@@jinsillustrates Has it ever amounted to anything in regards to success in their careers coz if it doesn't amount to success in their career why should someone have to engage in it...coz people seem to bring up Jay Z and Nas, I won't lie now everyone wants to be Jay Z so what's the upside or positive thing that comes out of it?
@@jinsillustrates Lastly, sorry am just trying to make sense of this...why can't someone prove they are the best through albums and normal songs it has to be through beef...I just don't get it.
You can prove your the best through albums and songs. The problem is if you re on every track bragging about how no rapper wants it from you and you will swat them like a fly. You need to back it up its important to stand behind what your saying.@@morrisandati5304
People are acting like J Cole hasn’t been taking shots at Kendrick even before Kendrick dissed him.
That’s what prompted Kendrick to diss him. That’s why Kendrick said ‘F’ sneak dissing, Cole was been taking shots for a while but he’s too much of a coward to be direct.
Shulz is right, winning rap battles does not make you the best rapper. It’s just an excuse for toxic entertainment. Black people beating on each for free and everyone else’s entertainment. There are better ways to be competitive.
J Cole just Let Nas Down...AGAIN🤦♂
Andrew better put some respect on Sketch ☝️
You cant base his response based off 7 minute drill alone
This dude had 4-5 songs taking shots including Pi which is one of the best songs ever put out lmao
Dude got TDE on his shit while they were dissing each other. J cole was up and baited kendrick perfectly before bitching out
Stop making fan fics
abt 2 month ago he was teasing “might delete later”
All the tracks except 7 minute drill was completed or written before Kendrick diss
J Cole literally said “🥷 so thirsty to put me in beef dissecting my words start looking to deep” “Just know if I diss you, I'd make sure you know that I hit you like I'm on your caller ID”
J. Cole ain’t about sneak dissing like Drake.
The beef is and was always Drake v. Kendrick. J Cole made a dumb move and involved him self and got a stray.
@@Soofi716 “stop making fan fics” proceeds to make the most retarded fan fiction ever heard 🤣
Need to go study, they all been subbing each other for 10 years
Cole with from GOAT to Lamb in less than 2 days.... lol This was such a tragedy
Kendrick didn’t do a diss track towards just cole ? It was towards Cole and Drake ? In fact DRAKE got more words in that verse as he was the only one who was isolated . So I don’t know why it’s framed like K dot went at Kendrick when he bitch slapped both of them and then shit on drakes last album …::
Fuck that , I want to delve into your life Andrew Schultz . Your highlights, your mistakes, your lowlights. I want to know you … a representation of this culture… content people. Data human being, Andrew Schultz is the goal ,the score , the bucket . I’m into you Andrew, I’ll endure the process eventually I’ll know what makes Andy boy tick .
Respectfully Andrew doesn't know what he's talking about! Cole has been saying he's number one for years and bodying wrappers for years and on the diss track to Kendrick he is saying he's busting on him he got that heat under his seat body bag body bag body bag! There is no way to backtrack that into I'm on some high vibration level now. Otherwise he wouldn't have been bodying or everybody else he's been bodying over the last five years. I imagine his fans are pissed and they didn't expect this foolishness. His fans certainly didn't deserve this foolishness
Andrew slow down on the Drake glazing Kendick is a true artists artist even Drake secretly admires and respects Kendrick Lamar
Drake is massive commercial success. He’s not the emcee that a Kendrick or Cole is in the eyes of many hip hop fans. Still a very dope emcee but his music is more pop and less wordsmith. Drake makes music for the casual which is evident in Andrew saying he doesn’t really listen to Kendrick. SMH.
cole started this from first person shooter now hes out smh
J Cole been throwing jabs all year to prove he a cap 🧢 rapper 😂 he isn’t believable and will never be
Alexx you sus af for getting nails painted at your big age my boi.
King Los will body all 3 of those dudes in one track. Don’t believe me go listen to all of his freestyles over their beats. Poundcake, silent hill, control, first person shooter, and plenty more . The industry is scared of the man
Kendrick isnt afraid of king los. That being said los is a Amazing lyricist maybe one of the best. The artistry and cohesion of the album just isnt there for dude yet.
King los much better lyrically, not the best song maker
@@user-vw8nv8mg7c he’s been black balled.
@@itsblackstone9562 he has written a ton of hit songs for other people.
@@williechase1 that's facts
J folde let the whole rap game down forget nas he let the competitive nature of rap down... he was cosplaying as a goat
Yall don't know shit about rap. Talking about casuals jfc lmao
Maybe Hip hop is leaving its adolescence.
Im so disappointed I feel you Al
Drake being everywhere doesn’t make him great… Drake is part of the machine
No Eminem us up there
J. Cole is 39 years old now. Hip hop needs maturity, not little girls arguing about who’s hot and who’s not
Lmao J-cole the one who's been begging to get tested for the last 3 years.
That's why Nas said hip-hop is Dead.
He said he was the best, when Kendrick challenged him to prove it, he folded
Do you think Kendrick called him and said you better apologise, you know I wasn't dissing you, I was dissing drake
😊😮😊😊😮😮😊8😮😊😊😮😮😊😮😅😮😮😮8
I doubt it because they both got muddy
I don't get why J Cole diss track is weak. Everything he said was factually right.
He responded in a week when Kendrick had 6 months to write something clever.
Kendrick only sang one verse for two people J Cole and Drake which makes it a lot easier.
And its the first round.
Lastly I'm a fan of all of them but to put J Cole and Kendrick on the same level as Drake is extremely disrespectful.
Thats just moving the goal post he's accomplished everything and artist has to accomplish to be considered greatest. Most number ones, most awards, constantly tries new styles some hit or miss but he's already past the Michael Jackson.
Coles still a pitbull, he was just adopted by a good family.
J cole is like this...invite me [OR he invites you] to your song ,then let's go head to head on that song.Check all his works.
schultz getting lamer by the day crazy
So is Hiphop, and specifically hiphop, art, sport, or both? Bc many of you social media characters are making it seem like hiphop is ONLY sport, nothing else. That’s why now you have literal sports anchors trying to cash in on this topic. So before you keep talking about this over and over again, which is it?
Andrew shouldn't be commenting on cultural impact... Because he talking White culture, when the gloves come of and beef comes to the surface Andrew shouldn't comment. Because im not sure if he understand the difference between MC and Rappers
I listen Kendrick all the time
12:15 Andrew is smoking reggiessssss. Lmaooo Drake makes catchy easy to listen to commercial music, yes Drake is the biggest star but when it gets down to music and art Drake is copy, edit and paste.
13:07 Just proved my point lmao Mos Def even said this too. Drake is type of person to appeal to everyone and play in the background.
No, I like Kendrick, but I don’t put him as number one, but he’s definitely better than J Cole and Drake 💯 A time who is honest and appreciates the real knows that Kendrick is the GOAT 🔥
10:33 YES! wtf you mean. GOD’s Son? NAS is 100% that guy haha
Eminem 50 and rapping circles around everyone tho, we know he the GOAT. NAS still that guy. Wayne, is that guy.
AS FOR HIP-HOP RAP ARTIST MC RAPPER SUBSTANCE SUBJECTS MESSAGES MEANINGFUL HIP-HOP ART RAP SKILL MUSIC KENDRICK LAMAR🐐💯BY FAR J COLE🐐💯 NR 2. BUT AS FAR AS SIMPLE BASIC FEEL GOOD VIBE MUSIC SOUND IT'S DRAKE WITH HIS SINGING SWEET SOFT SMOOTH VOCALS VOICE TONE POP RNB ISH MUSIC HIP-POP CATCHY MAINSTREAM COMMERCIAL BUT IT'S NOT HIP-HOP RAP QUALITY STUFF LIKE THAT ONLY FOR SIMPLE MINDS CASUALS FANBOYS AND FEMALE FANBASE HELPS CUZ HE MAKES THAT KIND OF MUSIC SO HE GOT A BROADER AUDIENCE FANBASE. BUT I RATHER LISTEN 2 FUTURE TRAVIS SCOTT FOR VIBES AND LIT MUSIC. BUT POINT IS DRAKE🗑🤡😂🤣😭 NOT NEAR KENDRICK LAMAR J.COLE AS FAR AS RAP HIP-HOP GOES.
All these guys are such rap casuals it’s embarrassing when you’re an actual fan who can see the real talent/hierarchy
It was meant for drake.
That’s why Eminem is the 🐐 don’t matter who fuck with him he got it