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Hi Everyone - Thanks in advance for any comments / questions. I'm headed back out on another trip & I Will answer any questions upon my return, next Tuesday.
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Dave Morrow I never understood why to use WB in Raw, now I am very pleasantly surprised. Thanks Dave!!! :-))) I am going to Norway in two days and this will SO MUCH help me during midnight sun each day. Check my Instagram in two weeks to see the results ;-) where.is.tony
This is one of the best series on landscape photography I have found. It is extremely valuable to any landscape photographer.
Thanks Jack. That means a lot. Do me a favor and share it with your photographer friends if you get a chance:)
PS: Is there anything specific you want to learn about? I have an on going list for video ideas.
Enjoy the day!
Totally Agree!
My new mantra is that it is not just about getting the best photo, it’s about getting the best data too. Thank you so much for your awesome videos.
Awesome. Not only are your tutorials filled with valuable info they are really fun and interesting to watch as well. Thanks a lot and keep getting out there living the dream.
Thanks!
I have not found a methodical photographer like you on CZcams. At least not for free. You’re like a photo engineer who uses given elements in a sequential order of operations to achieve the desired outcome. Thank you. Liked and subscribed. Cheers for WA State.
haha. Love to hear that. Really glad you enjoy the stuff:)
Dave Morrow sure man. Great work both outdoors and photography. Would be fun meeting you sometime on the WA trails.
Dave, you have described your white balance, exposure and focus procedure to some extent in other videos, but this is the most complete treatment, including checking the results after exposure before considering the shot done and moving on. Having come of age in the early 1960s camping, hiking, and climbing in the Washington Cascades it’s a treat to see such a familiar landscape through your lens.
Must have been killer out here in the 60s! Glad you liked the video & the views. Thanks brother.
@@DaveMorrow Dave, it was definitely not as crowded or bureaucratic. No trailhead parking permits or campsite reservations. The Smith Tower was still the Seattle skyline icon (until the Space Needle was completed). Starbucks was a single shop at Pike Place Market, REI was a small shop on the second floor at 1313 Pike St, down the hall from the Seattle Mountaineer’s club room, and smelled of hemp, wool, and leather, not nylon and polypropylene. Jim Whittaker had not yet summited Everest and become a celebrity, he was my ski instructor at the Mountaineers Snoqualmie Lodge and occasionally climb leader (we laughed our way up mountains with Jim). Larry Penburthy had just started MSR. Out of the trunk of his car at the trailhead he handed out various prototypes to test. We climbed Mt Rainer peeing on litmus paper and recording our urine pH. Larry had a theory about altitude sickness and electrolyte balance. While most of the party remained camped in snow caves at 12,000 ft three of us went to the summit and spent a night bivouacked in an ice cave inside the crater rim. Not the most comfortable night, but great view from the front porch the next morning. I still have my original issue MSR ice axe with its unceremonious international orange spray paint finish. I still have the imported wood-shafted ice ax it replaced too, much more stylish.
I had over 30 years experience in photography, you just taught me a few things that will help the better landscapes. Thanks!!!!!
Dave - this video brings me back to that 20 minutes you spent with our group at the Hoh Forest last August. At that time you changed my whole workflow and ultimately saved me many unnecessary images just by using live view to view and adjust ISO, Aperture, Shutter Speed, Exposure Compensation, Histogram and focus. The WB section of this video adds even more functionality! The video series is excellent - the best, actually!
MARVIN! Good to hear from you. I had a really good time with you on that tour. Hope everything is going well for you & thanks for the kind words.
I’ve been doing photography for around 5 years now and I follow a lot of photographers. I watch their videos, read what they write and yet in the last few weeks of watching your videos, I’ve been learning new stuff. Thank you.
Dave - I'm a huge fan of your photography technique videos. They're unlike any others in that you meticulously go thru each step of your process. So many other videos I see on-line focus on particular camera settings which is of little use to me. I appreciate that you explain the 'why' and 'what' you're doing with your photography process. Keep up the great work Dave.
Dave, I truly enjoy that you include on the video not just the tips and tricks, but also the importance of story behind and how to hard it is to get to those places. A lot of times, those "adventures" are being taken for granted and people just think something like "ohh wow, nice picture, you got it right on time" without given much thought of how hard it is to get to those places.
Thanks Juan. Glad you liked it! I may like the adventure more than the photos;)
The best part i like is the exposure compensation adjustment of the histogram, which take advantage of the full dynamic range of the sensor.
Awesome video - covers all the basics.
You are an excellent teacher and thank you for returning me to the back country, which I miss now I am old and my joints are no longer up to it!
Your technique is by far the best I have seen,I only saw your video the other day and can’t believe how simple and clear you’ve made taking landscapes can be.Thank you
You're welcome!
Hi Dave - You are an excellent teacher and you have a way to drill the concept in to a learner.
Thanks 👍
thanks Dave for sharing all your wonderful/ valuable information with us! safe travels 🙏🏼
Great video showing how to shoot in very cold conditions. It didn't stop Dave from going through the steps to create a great image. Who wants to spend a lot of time post processing? This was really helpful.
Few lightbulb moments for me there Dave with the advice which explains some of the issues I have been experiencing so looking forward to my next opportunity for getting out and trying out the tips you gave.
Having watched you hike through the snow, climb a mountain and camp out in the wild, whilst all the time providing great advice, it amazes me how 1 person has hit the dislike button. What more could they possibly want as this was such an informative episode and they really should be thankful you are doing this freely.
That's great! Glad to hear it:) Some people lead negative lives...
some great tips i have learn't.this is without doubt the best landscape vlogs i have seen.
Great Video. Man, this is the best explanation on how to use and adjust the histogram and shooting to the right using exp comp. The penny finally drops. Its all about "data capture". I've been bracketing for years then using lightroom's HDR feature to build a larger more data rich image.
Thanks James. There is nothing wrong with bracketing, but with newer cameras / sensors, it's often overlapping data. 90% of the time a single correctly exposed images captures it all. But there are those times when multiple exposures are required. It's all about knowing when you need it:) DATA COLLECTION! Collecting light energy, turning it into electric signal, and playing with it on your computer. Sounds fun to me! I'll have a new video out on Tuesday, which covers some basics of bracketing techniques.
Dave Morrow looking forward to your next instalment. Cheers Dave. Regards James.
Dave, after years shooting landscapes, I continue to learn from you. Thanks so much - amazing.
That's awesome Thad. Thanks for letting me know!
All your videos are really really valuable. Thank you so much for sharing your techniques.
Thanks for watching!
In dimly lit scenes to focus easier you can open your aperture all the way to let more light in. Focus on the points that you want and then redo the aperture that you’re choosing for the shot.
For sure. It just lets more light into live view. That technique is covered a few videos later in the series.
Dave your technique is very valuable, simple and you explain everything!!!Thank you for the video and we are waiting more!
Thanks Savvas. New video out today
Dave Morrow I am already watching again your videos and writing down some tips!! Thank my man again and I am looking forward for your new video!
Loved the "match colour to scene" using Kelvin
I watch these again and again! I'm so in awe of the the adventures you have and your thorough, inspiring teaching methods.
Thanks:)
I love your Landscape Journals, Dave, and want to say a big thank you for all the help and advice that you give us.
Thanks for your tutorials. As a beginning (again) photographer who’s new to DSLR’s, yes I last got interested in the film era😊, I find seeing your actual set up sequence prior to a shot invaluable and something I’ve struggled to find elsewhere. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Russ from OZ.
You're welcome! Glad to hear it:)
So glad I found this! Some of the best camera techniques and training I have seen on CZcams! You sure know how to get your points across without confusing the heck out folks! The absolute best explanation on hyperfocal distance I have ever heard! Thanks for that!
Thanks Chuck. Good to have you here man. Really glad you enjoyed my vids. There are more here, along with written articles: www.davemorrowphotography.com/2013/01/tutorials-photography-post-processing.html
Enjoy,
Dave
Love your videos Dave!!! Thanks for sharing the tips
You're welcome buddy.
I learned a very important yet such a simple technic within your 5sec intro. Balance Calvin to what you see. 👍
For some reason I'm just seeing this video even though it lead into you hyperfocal distance video. Anyway I appreciate you videos more than any I've seen here. I love the way you explained everything in detail. I've learned so much in the six months I've been shooting.
That's great. You may enjoy this page, it contains all my free learning material: www.davemorrowphotography.com/2013/01/tutorials-photography-post-processing.html
Dave, thanks for the lesson, can't wait to get out and give it a try.
Interesting and well done Dave.
Educated risk , informed leaps of faith & common sense improve likelihood of survival . Thanks for your work .
I agree with you Peter:). You're welcome.
Kelvin all the way people, your shots will improve fast.
Really useful tips here and a good way to check the image is pin sharp, rather than just relying on autofocus. Thanks David
Glad to hear it. You're welcome.
I just discovered your videos. I love them. Great work flow !!!
Awesome! Thank you!
just stumbled upon this channel and after watching, subscribed. very helpful info! thanks
Excellent video just the right amount of information...made them simple thank you ....can you do one video on your camera setting...Only major setting like exposure
Hi Sajjad. Thanks. That's a great to hear. I try to work on that in the videos.
Camera settings are a huge decision tree, depending on scene, light, and landsacpe. I wrote a long step by step article on the topic, which covers EVERYTHING. www.davemorrowphotography.com/exposure-triangle
In the future I'll do more videos on specific settings for specific shooting situations.
Thanks for the input. It helps alot:)
Dave
Thanks for your well-thought-out tuition videos Dave, I'm not very systematic in setting up for a shot but trying to get myself more organised. The colour balance tip was new to me, I'll certainly be keeping it in mind for future shoots.
Thanks Dave! I can't wait to use the tips and techniques in this video. I'm still struggling with Aperture Priority mode - I always shoot Manual. I think my problem is with the amount of available light...definitely need more practice.
If you're looking for future topics, I'd be interested in how you go about scouting for a location. I want to get better at getting of the beaten path, and find my own unique spots...something not seen in a thousand other photographs. I use TPE, Sun Surveyor, and Google Earth all the time, but I'm sure there are some tips you could provide. Some nugget of wisdom using these tools (or others) that you've found helpful.
Thanks again!
Hi Ryan. Give this article a read. it will help you to understand manual vs ap: www.davemorrowphotography.com/exposure-triangle
The best way to get off the beaten path, is to load your backpack with a week of food and start hiking. You're guaranteed to find good stuff, planning or not.
I use www.caltopo.com & google earth to plan all my trips, for route only, sometimes on trail, sometimes off. When you get a day or two into the wilderness, the photos come on their own. No need to plan them:)
That's about all I use anymore. I'll add this topic to my list of future videos:)
Hi Dave. Great work. I really enjoy your work and the method of teaching. Could you please do a sunrise shoot using live view. I am sure all your viewers will learn a lot from this. Thanks.
Hey Thanks Gireesh. They are the exact same shooting techniques as in this video. No difference. Read this technical article it will help! www.davemorrowphotography.com/exposure-triangle
Excellent tip. Thank you for
Great video,very informative...I've learned a lot from watching your videos,thank you!!
You're welcome.
These latest tutorials have been great. I didn’t know about how the white balance affected he histogram at all. Great little tip. Thanks!
Do you have you picture profile set to default as well? I find that has a massive effect on the histogram.
Thanks. Profile set to neutral or whatever the flattest profile is. This will show a histogram closest to RAW.
I like landscape photography channels that are "adventure" focused so I'm glad I came across this one. Keep up the good work. I made a video a while back of photographing Mt Adams which you pointed out in the beginning...the PNW is beautiful :)
Thanks Chris. NIce, Adams is a beast! Secluded too. It's a great place, agreed:)
Dave, your way of explaining things is excellent...thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!
You're welcome, Mike.
Dave, thank you for making the Landscape Photography Journals! I just recently discovered the videos. Love your teaching style and your off the beaten path shooting locations. Never photographed with live view and the histogram (use RGB Highlights), but will give it a go.
Hi James, You're most welcome. It's a fun project. Once you get the LV technique down you'll save alot of time and create overall better images. Let me know what you find:) Thanks for comment.
You are a very good teacher and the explanation is good. I commend you for your patience in the details of your presentations.Great work, and good adventure.Thank you.
I really appreciate that! You're most welcome:) Enjoy the day Gino.
Another great episode, I'm going to watch it again later today. Maybe one of these days I'll figure it all out. LOL
Such a great series! That white balance explanation was awesome, thanks!
G’day Dave. Thanks for all the free tips that you have learnt along the way on your adventure. Very easy to understand what your putting across. One thing I haven’t worked out though is what point you expose for and what setting on the camera do you use. Or have I missed something? I’m a beginner trying to figure things out.
Very nice, will definitely play around with this technique. Seems like I have underutilized my live view so far. Also love how you're showing part of you hikes, more of that please ;)
Great explanation, can't wait to go out and try it, thanks Dave, keep up the good work, really enjoy your videos!!!
Great content, clear explanations. Why didn't anybpdy teach these techniques before? I have wasted so much time and was even thinking of giving it up. Thank you and uch respect to you for braving the elements to get The Shot!!!
Spectacular scenery!!... Very informative well done videos, thx for sharing.
Great tip shooting in Kelvin Mode, can’t wait to try it out this weekend and haven’t done the back button focus but will look into that as well as I know a few others who use it but I should learn it to see if it’s something I want to persuade.. Thanks for your videos!!!
You're welcome, Don. Have fun!
Awesome thank you
A quick smack to the forehead and a "So that's how to do it!" Thanks for so many tips packed into one video. May your batteries live long and prosper.
You bet! You too brother.
Thank you Dave Morrow I have been waiting you video for long times really helpful Thank you
Great, Dave!! You have a great teaching gift. Take care!!!
Thanks buddy
I am going to start using your kelvin method for the WB. In my last trip I was taking pictures of a very foggy mountain during blue hour and now I am having issues finding the right WB in post. Anyway always learning. Thanks man
Anytime! Glad it helped:)
Thanks for another great video Dave. I have thoroughly enjoyed all your videos and have learn't a host of new invaluable techniques and tips from them and plan on putting them into action during an upcoming trip around northern Scotland doing the NC500 route. I'm currently learning about luminosity masking (steep learning curve!) using Photoshop and the TK Actions V5/V6. Keep the videos coming, for me they are invaluable.
You're welcome Frank. I have an offer for you. I'm beta testing my brand new landscape photo editing course, which includes the topics you stated. Would you be interested in testing it out for free? I'm just looking for feedback on the course, before launch. If you're interested shoot me an email, dave@davemorrowphotography.com
Awesome stuff Dave! Thanks for the tutorials!
Great and helpful video. I had a question/issue about getting the white balance correct after taking some mountain landscape pictures in West Texas and there was also haze present. I'll try this technique of using Live View and adjusting the white balance using the kelvin scale and match the screen view to what I see. When I got back home and processed the pictures I had taken I wasn't quite sure what the scene and white balance looked like exactly (as several days had passed) so this should help. Also, I always use Manual Mode but will try Aperture Priority.
v nice. ty
Very useful, and very clear. Thank you
Very informative 🥰
Thanks!
Very nice, thank you Dave
Thank you.
You're welcome
Hoping you’re back in you tube soon!
2 - 3 weeks:)
@@DaveMorrow awesome, looking forward to it! Happy New Year!
Use av mode to shoot that is a simple and clever idea. I watched many simlar tutorial none of them mentioned this.
thank you again Dave
Great video and very informative!
Here in 2022 whatching this gold content
dear Dave ... do you think adjusting the white balance is always to match the colors to what our eyes sees ... or to match the real color of the snow lets say?
It's great to see someone teaching kelvin to get the correct WB
:)
Awesome content mate been watching a heap of your videos recently good to see a landscape tog with solid experience getting down to the techniques. One question about focus that you have touched on briefly in a few vids. Do you sometimes focus then stop down your aperture as i find i'm focusing noise sometimes at sunrise/sunset and focusing then stopping down the aperture helps, TIA for any help
Thanks Kyle. Yessir. For sure. Usually the min f-stop possible to focus, 2.8 to 3.5 ish, then adjust to f/8 or f/11 for the shot.
Thanks Dave!
That what Hikers need to master for immortalizing these scenes they come across during their journey.
Really enjoying this photography journal series. Do you ever take on workshops where significant hiking is required. Your website seems to be set up for minimal hiking. This would seem to restrict the photography opportunity. Do you ever lead workshops for folks who are fit and backcountry capable in order to maximize photography in more remote settings??Cheers,Mel Hughes
Hi Mel, Thanks so much. Depends what you define as significant? We hike 2-3 miles a day on my large tours. When out solo, I'm usually covering 12-30 miles a day, depending on terrain. If you're interested in going into the backcountry I'd be happy to discuss a 1-1 tour, which features what I consider to be "real" landscape photography:) Just shoot me an email, dave@davemorrowphotography.com
New subscriber. loved it. very helpful!
thank you. veeery helpful
Hi Dave. Its nearly 40 degrees here in Adelaide South Australia today so watching you hiking in the snow is rather cool!!
I'm really enjoying your videos re histograms. Quick question. I have a Nikon D800 and find it difficult in the Australian light to actually see the image on the rear screen in live view without a black hood or similar shading. Does adjusting the screen brightness throw out the balance of the light values seen on screen in contrast to looking directly at the scene?
Cheers, Paul.
Hi Paul. It will have a slight effect. So long as white balance is close, no problem though. That's why histograms are key to utilize, they don't care about screen glare.
Pls help me out here. RAW does not have a Wht balance or color space. It is a subjective (wht balance) editing choice. Too using K in the field is like using Exposdisk to set neutral Wht balance or custom where the luminosity histogram is centered. However each time the light changes (changes rapidly at sunset/sunrise) so does the wht balance. So using K you will need to constantly change the K temp to reflect the Wht balance. If I am wrong or my thought process is wrong, pls LMK...Excellent video and a lot of food for thought too. Really enjoy it.
The correct kelvin is all about getting the exposure correct. The luminosity histogram is only in Photoshop, camera is RGB.
HI Dave, Amazing video. i have a question, what if i will need to add a 10stop ND filter, am i still can apply the same techniques you use such as ETTR and just reduce the shutter speed 10 stops as per the ND filter or you suggest a different technique?
Dave, great video...btw Senem said she misses all of the walking, lol.
James! Good to hear from you. Well, I'm always right here, you guys know where to find me for lots of walking:)
In downloading I don't suppose this applies to all cameras as you are demo'ing a Nikon?
"Test: Take 2 pictures (A) & (B).
A wrong WB and
B right WB. Open the two RAW. Correct the white balance of A. Is it ok? Does it match B?
It will. The RAW file has all the information of the sensor. WITHOUT any process. This is true. Even if it sounds extreme. :)
"The NEF format supports 12-bit or 14-bit data, depending on the camera used to capture the image. Any adjustments to image settings such as exposure, hue, tone, sharpening, and white balance can be made with software once the image is saved to a computer. These changes to the image are stored as instruction sets separate from the raw image data in the NEF file, which means that no matter how many edits are applied to the image you can revert back to the original."
White balance isn't about color in RAW. It's about finding the white point to optimize exposure & maximize the full well capacity of each pixel.
You're using center weighted metering?
Hi Dave. Many thanks for this. As usual your tutorials take us to places other photo tutorials don't (geographically & technically!). Especially the importance of getting a neutral WB setting even in raw. On that point, what about the camera jpeg picture setting? Does that influence what you see on the screen re the image & histogram? I've read different opinions on this.
You're welcome. I have no clue. I never shoot in JPEG.
@@DaveMorrow I didn't explain that well. I meant for raw shooting. I wondered if the jpeg picture setting can influence the histogram that you see on the screen..hence influence the exposure for raw.
Absolutely. You want it on Adobe RGB & Flat or Neutral Profile.
Many thanks, very interesting and rewarding tutorial! Two questions:1) Is it right, that following your workflow raw image stays as it would be without following your workflow, solely jpeg image will be changed. So one is able to see what is he doing, using the jpeg-histogram as help to expose correctly etc.?2) What did you wear? I am looking for proper clothing for exactly the same situation: Walk to the spot and stay there for maybe an hour or two without moving much.Thank you in advance! Regards, Robert
Hi Robert, Thanks. 1) Not really. Your color effects exposure, although you can adjust raw color, the right color is needed for the correct exposure. 2) Depends what kind of gear you need. Most of my trips are 3-7 nights out, living out of a backpack. So if you just want to do a day hike, you probably won't need the really $$$ gear and can save some money. Here is a guide that I wrote on the topic: www.davemorrowphotography.com/Backpacking-for-Photographers-Guide , reference the Layering Section.
Hi Dave, great video!
Question: Why are you shooting at ISO 100 when the D810's base ISO is 64?
Thanks...
Yup. Go into the woods, shoot directly into the sunlight in a high dynamic range scene, exposing only for the highlight. Take a shot at 64 and 100. Then go back home and see which file you like working with more. I find that ISO100 is much more malleable in post, especially for high dynamic range scenes. It's also 2/3 stop quicker in exposure, with no noticeable difference in noise profile. So, long answer short, I prefer 100 over 64 through extensive testing in different scenarios.
My question/statement first off is that the camera's histogram is built on a .jpg for the captured image. However when in LV, is that luminosity histogram a reflection of RAW file format?
Really good question! The camera's RGB histogram reads a jpg rendering of the RAW file and displays it in image review. The live view histogram is still an RGB histogram. It just doesn't show individual color channels such as image review. It is an 8-bit histogram just like the image review version. More details on bit-depth & color here--> www.davemorrowphotography.com/camera-sensor-size-guide#Bit_Depth_Color_Depth_ImageQuality
Once you load a picture into Lightroom or Adobe Camera RAW you'll notice that it doesn't match the one of the back of the camera perfectly. RAW editing programs read and render the raw file histogram.
You're camera histogram will show the image clipping in the darks and shadows before they actually do. This is a nice failsafe:)
I'd recommend some test shots, compare back of camera to what comes out in raw editing programs when exposed to the right.
techniques are great but the hike up impresses me even more :) Now when it gets really cold like in Harbin's ice carving last week when I was in minus 32 my fingers froze so how do you handle that situation ..gloves made it hard to not move the wrong button .
I just get used to doing it with numb hands and feet. Spend alot of time in the cold and it'll just become part of you:)
yeah well I sat in a coffee shop sucking my fingers and found that helped ... somehow I hit the white balance and changed it to tungsten and well in ice and snow it was "interesting" " ....:)
Hi Dave. If your RGB histogram is right to the edge with nothing blown out, but one of the color channels is blown out, how do you correct that color channel so it is not blown out without affecting the RGB histogram by pulling it away from the edge? Thanks, I really enjoyed this video.
Great question. You just have to drop the exposure by a half stop or so and exposure to the right for the brightest color channel. You can see an example in the link below, if you watch that specific shooting example
czcams.com/video/BtExFWacuZ4/video.htmlm27s
Eventually you'll start to know which color will blow out first and back off your exposure slightly to compensate.
Red, Green & Yellow blow out really quickly. Blue hardly ever.
Glad you liked it! Let me know if that makes sense to you:)
I envy you! Great vids
Just found your channel and find it very useful. I am wondering if the picture profile settings also affect the hystogram readout and how do you set them.
Nice! Thanks. The picture profile affects the histogram shown on your camera (jpeg rendering of RAW FILE), but not the RAW file. So, put the camera profile on FLAT or NEUTRAL or whatever the least contrast profile is. That will match it as close as possible to the raw file.
Thank you! Just one more question...do you ever use the AE Lock on your camera?
@@mhaney1111 you're welcome. No I don't - watch all these you'll learn the complete technique: czcams.com/play/PL5MgfX7Ym7At_Q0eWRIzjI7utn3mjQsxF.html
Dave, do you close your eye piece window during your landscape shoots? If so why, if not why?
Good question. no I don't. It doesn't make a difference in the image quality. Maybe if you're taking 10 minute exposures in mid day light it would. Test both scenarios on your camera and let me know what you think:)