@Acai28 Explains Clone Hero Patterns

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  • čas přidán 12. 05. 2019
  • Alec goes over the most commonly found patterns in Clone/Guitar Hero.
    Ripped from 2019/04/30 stream vod.
    Timestamps:
    00:03 Ladders
    01:40 Chimneys
    03:55 Reverse Chimneys
    04:31 Zig-Zags
    09:53 Triplets
    09:57 Quadruplets
    10:01 Ascending Triplets
    10:05 Ascending Quadruplets
    10:12 Chimneys and Reverse Chimneys again
    10:33 ?
    11:34 Trills/Castles
    13:16 Ghosting
    13:36 Spamming
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Komentáře • 113

  • @acai28
    @acai28 Před 4 lety +551

    oh shit i just remembered you messaged me once about you making this vid. enjoy everyone!

  • @PutridStudios
    @PutridStudios Před 4 lety +359

    Ghosting ? The girls I talk to are very very good at that technique

  • @MrTehnoobshowfan
    @MrTehnoobshowfan Před 4 lety +167

    The slowed down zoom actually made it easier, cause when he plays he just covers it with his tapping hand and mashes it and you have no idea how he’s doing it. Thank you!

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 4 lety +13

      He also did that in his Soulless tutorial video, but that was like 4 hours long or whatever, so I decided it would be nice to have a shorter, more compact video discussing patterns and techniques.

  • @FinnKid1
    @FinnKid1 Před 4 lety +106

    2:24
    you just opened my eyes

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 4 lety +9

      I agree with whom in chat asked if the yellow note should be simultaneous with the green though - if you look at houses, their chimneys aren't floating :D
      I think acai kinda misunderstood the question about it, reverse chimneys (likely) isn't what the person in chat meant

  • @kevinsundelin8639
    @kevinsundelin8639 Před 4 lety +49

    In case you're looking for something specific
    *Ladders* - 0:05
    *Chimneys* - 1:45
    *Zig-Zags* - 4:37
    *Triplet and Quadruplet Practice Song* - 9:39
    *Castles/Trills* - 11:09
    *Ghosting and Spamming* - 13:16

  • @Lsthnbrd
    @Lsthnbrd Před 4 lety +60

    This is so fascinating watching this and reading comments on patter theory and getting in depth with how to play certain sections. Back in my day (GH1-3), we just mashed buttons and hoped to hit a majority of them

    • @foreignnate7042
      @foreignnate7042 Před 4 lety +1

      less than bread Im sure he played guitar hero 3 too

  • @boingz2064
    @boingz2064 Před 4 lety +36

    That chimney explanation actually blew my mind.

  • @palibakufun
    @palibakufun Před 4 lety +28

    Acai: 4:10 nails that 100% three times in a row
    Also Acai: 1:25

  • @NightmareSnake
    @NightmareSnake Před 4 lety +16

    I've realized that even as a player that doesn't know two hand tapping, I've done ghosting just on my own before, and on that exact section of Hangar 18, no less.

    • @derpizzaman1050
      @derpizzaman1050 Před 2 lety

      i play on keyboard, and two hand tapping is my worst enemy coz you like elbow strum to save a hopo

  • @GooseMcBruce
    @GooseMcBruce Před 4 lety +10

    i thought ghosting was when olivia doesn't call back

  • @martinleithe8251
    @martinleithe8251 Před 4 lety +4

    I got mindblowned by the Chimney explanation. I would never have thought about this on my own

  • @zachsteiner
    @zachsteiner Před 4 lety +3

    This is super useful thanks!

  • @Foxribble19
    @Foxribble19 Před 4 lety +46

    Imagine the nerves oh wait the meme died

  • @blaze4dayz445
    @blaze4dayz445 Před 4 lety +11

    3:26 lol

  • @cjay880
    @cjay880 Před 4 lety +3

    my personal thoughts on spamming and ghosting, I believe that the're multiple types of spam. Some are fine and others are just lazy work-arounds for quick patterns. An example of fine spamming would be when you anchor the green and have to tap the red like 30 times for a part but instead of tapping it 30 times you end up tapping it 45 times or more. I find this fine because you only have two notes, one is an anchor so all you are left with is taping a single colour. spamming that one note lets you turn off your brain and regain focus but at the cost of stamina later on in the song. When you have a sweep or a more complex pattern and all you do is just rapidly hit every note with green anchored then that is bad spamming. Ghosting however I find less of a cop-out and more of its own technique. By adding in a non needed note in a sequence such as G, R, B, O. I find that you can maintain more of a consistent motion with your hand thus making it easier for you to keep tempo with the song and can aid in reading a chart. Still at the end of the day you should only ghost until get down an exact method of hitting it, otherwise it becomes a crutch for hitting quad zigs and sweeps and in allot of faster more difficult songs you won't really have the time to ghost a note as you would be holding down a higher note (the ghosted note) when you only have time to really hit what is presented in the chart, unless you spam but then that brings us back to using spamming as a quick cop-out.

  • @JVSkellington
    @JVSkellington Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you

  • @calebroberts5261
    @calebroberts5261 Před 2 lety +2

    "Are zig zags spammable?"
    *Spams frantically*
    "yes"

  • @zalshorock
    @zalshorock Před 3 lety +1

    Im getting a guitar soon because I've always played with a regular controller and I think this is gonna help

  • @bombus5665
    @bombus5665 Před 5 lety +2

    Really helpful stuff

  • @samarro7250
    @samarro7250 Před 4 lety +3

    10:28 got me I don't know why

  • @jayburgett8671
    @jayburgett8671 Před 4 lety +5

    Very helpful for beginners like me

  • @XavierScratch1987
    @XavierScratch1987 Před měsícem

    I needed this before I jumped into the full difficulty charts of both Soulless 4 & 5. Maybe I can practice getting better

  • @DabDaddy
    @DabDaddy Před 3 lety +1

    if someone spammed that solo in hanger 18 after playing the whole song normally I would actually be impressed lmfao

  • @jamescruz8678
    @jamescruz8678 Před rokem

    It would be super cool if we had a single song dedicated to practicing patterns like these.

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před rokem +3

      I mean, there are several songs that are made for specific patterns. Some are even displayed in this video, iirc.

  • @InklingFan77Mettaton1936

    3:26 the sneeze of the century

  • @pricefieldx
    @pricefieldx Před 4 lety

    The hyped up sneeze

  • @Gactoz
    @Gactoz Před 4 lety +7

    try setting speed to 0.25 and listen to him talking

    • @schutz85
      @schutz85 Před 4 lety

      Go home brown man, you're drunk

  • @marioposada7408
    @marioposada7408 Před 3 lety

    look at the house!
    lOoK aT tHe cHiMnEy!

  • @oChubbys
    @oChubbys Před 4 lety +9

    What tapping pattern would you use to hit alternating chimneys, where it goes: (chimney, chimney, reverse chimney, reverse chimney and repeat)? Cause I cant find a tutorial anywhere

    • @pawsigh9337
      @pawsigh9337 Před 4 lety +4

      there's no switch up. just tap the "chimney" note with one finger then when it's reverse use 2 fingers like a triplet. Or if you want the easy way out just do reverse chimneys the whole time

    • @mainsera4407
      @mainsera4407 Před 4 lety

      Play them normally. If you want, there’s a pattern that is both a chimney and reverse and the same time. It’s regular chimneys but instead of hitting just yellow on the chimney part you hit yellow AND red. Makes chimneys to reverse chimneys easier

    • @joshuaw.8721
      @joshuaw.8721 Před 4 lety

      For me, if the reverse chimney is slow enough, I just think of it as an alternating trill. I’m assuming that the section you are referencing is Remembrance B for S4, which also includes sections like the one before the chords that lead to victory verse, which is sort of how I learned reverse chimneys

  • @Mario64iscool2
    @Mario64iscool2 Před 4 lety

    I think I asked for the patterns explanation myself.

  • @RosalieValentineCHENG
    @RosalieValentineCHENG Před 4 lety

    I still wanna figure out how the tap notes register on zigzag even though i see the red is partially delayed while green is held?

  • @opalpersonal
    @opalpersonal Před 4 lety +2

    I am Acai, and this is my Guitar Hero Masterclass.

  • @CoolAsFreya
    @CoolAsFreya Před 3 lety +1

    I've practiced ladders in slow practice mode but I still can't play them in full speed

  • @therealvins522
    @therealvins522 Před 2 lety

    13:36 leafgreen method

  • @alio2269
    @alio2269 Před 4 lety +1

    The chat got a bit heated when he played soulless 2

  • @vic123
    @vic123 Před 4 lety +20

    The castle example he showed looks a lot like ladders, but faster. Am I missing something?

    • @KKappaccinno
      @KKappaccinno Před 4 lety +23

      You're correct. That being said, since they are so fast, the method for doing them is completely different when compared to the 'standard' ladder method, so it essentially becomes a new pattern.

    • @Deus_Auto
      @Deus_Auto Před 4 lety +1

      @@KKappaccinno/videos/videos I posit that it is, in fact, not a new pattern. It is the same pattern that is too fast for a lower-speed method.
      (I can't get rid of "/videos" after your name no matter what I do)

    • @dopaminecloud
      @dopaminecloud Před 4 lety

      @@Deus_Auto unless we flip it and say that the pattern refers to your finger movement

    • @Deus_Auto
      @Deus_Auto Před 4 lety

      @@dopaminecloud Fair enough.

  • @Deep_wolf
    @Deep_wolf Před 3 lety +2

    Talking about ghosting being a unfair practice...back in 2007 people were against hyperspeed, cause it makes game easier and considers a cheating.

  • @chambeet
    @chambeet Před 3 lety

    I'm really bad at ladders. Even the one in "Carry on My Wayward Son" gives me trouble.

  • @anthonyschutz7201
    @anthonyschutz7201 Před měsícem

    I need to learn how to two have these. Only thing I know how to two have is ttfaf intro. I can hit the free bird rollers and all the other slow ones but those fast ones are evil.

  • @JJLvfx
    @JJLvfx Před 5 lety +1

    yes

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 5 lety

      why yes indeed, my friend

  • @anarautio
    @anarautio Před 3 lety +2

    5:17 waaaait...how is he able to hold red down the whole time? Shouldn't those be double notes since he is never letting go of the red? And how can he automatically play the reds when he doesn't lift his finger up? Whenever I do zig zags I never keep pressing one finger down the whole time cause I thought the game would think I'm playing a double note instead of one.

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 3 lety +1

      "Anchoring in Clone Hero / Guitar Hero is keeping a lower fret held down while playing a higher note.
      "
      In your question, it *automatically* hits the reds, because before the red notes, he hit some note other than the red. This is probably the least technical explanation you could get, but from experience, it works like that.
      Say you have a chart where there's only red notes (HOPOs or opens), you can keep holding red down, while tapping any other color between two reds.

  • @thevoid5117
    @thevoid5117 Před 3 lety +1

    My problem is I feel like I'm mechanically skilled enough its just actually making sense of what I am seeing lol

  • @ericbird4345
    @ericbird4345 Před 3 lety

    chad

  • @staringcorgi6475
    @staringcorgi6475 Před 4 měsíci

    I wonder if spamming can work in GHWT

  • @soleus59
    @soleus59 Před rokem +1

    Fast forward to this day, i now found people spamming mostly for jokes but Carny takes it srsly

  • @nekocosan578
    @nekocosan578 Před 4 lety

    for the zigzag, does he click the green button ?

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 4 lety +3

      Nope.
      As long as you're not hitting a chord, you can always hold down a fret that's lower than the note you need to hit.

  • @paranoia2021
    @paranoia2021 Před 4 lety +1

    420th Subscriber!!!

  • @cunihinmangihin2215
    @cunihinmangihin2215 Před 3 lety

    I still don't have that confidence to tap over hopo notes. I just dio it on tap notes since I'm using a keyboard and it's easier to recover when I miss :v

  • @ThatsMySkill
    @ThatsMySkill Před 2 lety

    so as a complete noob i see you holding one color the whole time with zigzags and i was just wondering why and how that works? cause i always thought you have to let go off green to hit red, then let go off red, hit yellow, then let go off yellow, hit red again and so on.

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 2 lety

      "Because that’s how a real guitar works. It’s not like a piano where each note gets its own string / strings and the strings run perpendicular to the layout of the keys. It’s like a guitar where fretting in different places on one string can create different pitches. So basically, only the highest note gets played which means you can anchor notes so there’s less effort to play a pattern. It’s not only zig pattens either. Any pattern can have an anchor note."
      Originally commented on this video by @Josh Cronshaw

    • @ThatsMySkill
      @ThatsMySkill Před 2 lety

      @@Lada333 damn thanks for the detailed response! makes a lot of sense to me now!

  • @peterk3556
    @peterk3556 Před 2 lety

    I love the strum bar on the wor guitar the only problem is the green button is pressed in too much the good thing is! I love the xplorer buttons they make me tired much faster which is not good but they have grip to them if someone can mod professionally I would like to have a gh5 shaped guitar with wor strum bar and xplorer buttons this would be so fire 🔥🎸 if it's fully functional I would pay 150 Euro or so for it.

  • @donkylefernandez4680
    @donkylefernandez4680 Před 4 lety

    Why are you able to keep it down on the green for zig zags?
    This is literally what everyone's been waiting for

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 4 lety

      Because that's how the game's engine works

    • @joshcronshaw1489
      @joshcronshaw1489 Před 4 lety +4

      Because that’s how a real guitar works. It’s not like a piano where each note gets its own string / strings and the strings run perpendicular to the layout of the keys. It’s like a guitar where fretting in different places on one string can create different pitches. So basically, only the highest note gets played which means you can anchor notes so there’s less effort to play a pattern. It’s not only zig pattens either. Any pattern can have an anchor note.

  • @lelspaldol8878
    @lelspaldol8878 Před 4 lety

    i watched multiple times but i still dont get the sliding tap one

    • @TextureOfCouch
      @TextureOfCouch Před 4 lety

      Slow it down and look at his finger movements very closely and the way the colors light up on the strike line and it should be easier to decipher. I had to look at it a few times and pause right in the middle/end of every movement. Everything on this game is easy to understand if you just take it slow.

  • @Zimodo
    @Zimodo Před 4 lety

    Arent castles just reverse ladders?

  • @Corsaka
    @Corsaka Před 4 lety

    11:34 aren't those ladders?

    • @VeloStatue66
      @VeloStatue66 Před 4 lety

      yes they are quick ladders but they are techniquelly *trills* and sry for my english and im very late lol

  • @kennethkeepsitreal64
    @kennethkeepsitreal64 Před 4 lety

    Will die knowing I’m better at guitar hero than anyone I’ve meet personally. But you always gotta check that ego.

  • @darkcrypter3305
    @darkcrypter3305 Před 4 lety

    Me over here who cant even do ladders but can somehow get 91% TTFAF expert on keyboard

  • @FalconProductions_
    @FalconProductions_ Před 2 lety

    Tapping is almost impossible playing lefty, been playing for years and don't even know what to do still

  • @appleleptiker
    @appleleptiker Před 4 lety +1

    yes good

  • @peterk3556
    @peterk3556 Před 2 lety

    I've started to learn it in 2017 still can't tap it I'm almost one handing it tho 😂

  • @TheHashSlingingSlashers
    @TheHashSlingingSlashers Před 2 měsíci

    What kind of witchcraft is this 7:04

  • @JuniorDjjrMixMods
    @JuniorDjjrMixMods Před 4 lety

    It is a chimney of a house that has a chimney attached to the wall outside, not in the middle, the image used in the comparison was not very good.

  • @PocketZX
    @PocketZX Před 7 měsíci

    3:27

  • @TheOnly0rion
    @TheOnly0rion Před 4 lety +1

    How is he playing strum notes by tapping?

    • @alexch
      @alexch Před 4 lety +1

      @@Lada333 He's on about elbow strumming- Alec strums with his elbow on a strum note while his 2 hands are tapping the other notes.

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 4 lety +1

      @@alexch You're totally right, my mistake, completely forgot about those parts in the video!

    • @alexch
      @alexch Před 4 lety

      @@Lada333 haha no problems man

  • @vehtty
    @vehtty Před 2 lety

    play 7:52 at 2x speed

  • @rakkz
    @rakkz Před 4 lety +2

    6:15 doesnt work for me

  • @peterk3556
    @peterk3556 Před 2 lety

    To be honest if someone spams on Satch boogie it looks really bad but at the end of the day if you like to spam. Do it I mean it's not competitive at least now so who cares but at least just tell people I spammed or so but if you play for yourself no one cares and there are songs that you just can not get away with spamming.

  • @asoo786
    @asoo786 Před 4 lety

    *you guys like m e m e s, right?*

  • @rrett44556
    @rrett44556 Před 4 lety

    Wouldnt a house be green, red, yellow, red, green? With a yellow/blue falling somewhere there as a double note?Like they aren't always perfectly half way up one side?

  • @andrew66769
    @andrew66769 Před 4 lety +2

    was hoping to learn something from this video, was disappointed.

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 4 lety

      Care to elaborate what you would've liked to have seen?

    • @andrew66769
      @andrew66769 Před 4 lety

      @@Lada333 what i was expecting to see was like a tutorial on how to do these patterns, but instead he just said "ok this is x pattern * does it * ok thats that pattern" if i wanted to slow the video down to see what hes doing with his hands i wouldve just watched a regular video instead of him 'explaining' them
      to answer your question. what id like to have seen is a breakdown of how these are actually done. the only thing i saw that was kinda like that was the zig zags. the rest just look like him smacking the guitar.

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před 4 lety

      ​@@andrew66769 Ah, I see where you're coming from.
      Truth be told, this was never meant to be a stream to focus on patterns, iirc I asked him something that led us down into this rabbit hole, where he went over some patterns.
      He has a Soulless 4 tutorial (which, if I'm not mistaken, I linked at the end of this video), he might go more in-depth over there, not sure, have not seen the whole video.

  • @TheHuckeberrie
    @TheHuckeberrie Před rokem +1

    i will never acheive anything like this. my hands just cant take it. whole hand just locks up when i try to do anything remotely close to any of these patterns. permastuck on hard i suppose. gonna return the guitar to amazon and give up on this stupid shit

    • @Lada333
      @Lada333  Před rokem

      Lmao no need to return it. I can't do any of these patterns either. I haven't ever really tried tbh, I just accepted that I'm shit. Regular practice helps a lot though. Keep grinding.