Alternate History: What if the Axis Won?
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- Keep in Mind that Everything I say here is solely based upon my opinion as well as logical/deductive reasoning. What do you think would happen though?
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How about a video on how the British allowed themselves to get pushed back to Dunkirk in the first place? Seems like if the British had kept a stiff upper lip the war might have been radically different in both its length and death tolls.
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good analysis you should maybe apply for your state department
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A very good analysis, but you never brought up the Atom bomb. Surely if the Axis powers had developed this first then they could have obliterated America and Britain.
I always love watching and listening to "What if" scenarios. I had this idea to write a Science Fiction novel about the course of the World War and how Time Travellers actually caused and influenced the war to swing to the Axis powers.
I loved your take on this, thank you for posting this video.
I often thought of a movie where Stalin died of a stroke when Germany invaded, followed by infighting in the Soviet leadership, resulting in Germany quickly defeating the USSR and a Nazi dominated world.
25 years later some downtrodden rebels develop a one-time use time machine and send a Stalin replacement back, to lead the USSR to a victory for freedom loving people everywhere, and at the end of the movie, the future rebels find themselves now in a Siberian gulag instead.
Dean Koontz wrote a book called Lightning that employed just a such a scenario.
@@martinbones681 I actually read that book, it was quite entertaining.
I mean, if there ever is/was time travel, you can count our current timeline was influenced in some way.
You're scaring me, sir. Lol
I feel like the US wouldn’t have been a world power we see today. Maybe a financial like Germany today or manufacturing power like China but I don’t see the US as a military powerhouse.
That’s just it, it probably would have been the only other one just not to the same level
I think much of the US military prowess came from actively recruiting Axis specialists ( during and after WW 2) . It's just my take on it. I might be wrong
The motivation for U.S. power was partly based on Democrats watching Stalins industrial programmes in the '30s. The fantasy of centralized control.
@@dannyboy-py7hj The US had its own doctrines and instructors who defeated the axis. The American military learned how to do cross oceanic logistics that they would employ in the Cold War. The axis lost, their specialist failed and Americas succeeded. They needed no training by foreign experts they got all their training and testing in the war against said foreign experts. The only branch of the us government that really benefited from Axis specialist was the Space Program since Germany was so desperate it funded the whackiest and stupidest programs obtaining some promising results in their rocketry.
@@dannyboy-py7hj the 'military prowess' of the United States came from it's troop training, manufacturing capabilities, and command and control structure.
I have a wonderful question, if the Natives weren't wiped out, how would the Americas look today?
I do not have any knowledge about this but I would think that USA would be many different countries not just one country. (:
Simple answer.. they got the land in original pristine condition, now it is a toxic dump
If Europeans hadn't conquered it. The Chinese would have. This would be New Asia, but not near as free or cool.
@@wesleywarsmith1113 they may have established colonies on the west, but I could definetly see Native nations forming in the East and in South America. It also depends on if the Natives would have European weaponry and technology, or if they would be using their own technology. Pretty interesting scenario.
it would have a culture
This's actually a really nice simplified take on the "what if" scenario where the Nazi's managed to win the war. Your precursors were great. A lot of historians, like myself, tend to gloss over the events that would've resulted in "more" resource-filled Third Reich. I'd love to discuss this topic with you in your Discord if you ever have the time, and inclination. Peace.
You also ought to watch “The Man in the High Castle” this is a tv series of this subject
Booooring lol
Believe it or not, it was a book before the tv series
It sucks tbh.
I think I remember reading the book where Germany and Japan did beat up the USA?
This was a good tv series/book that would never actually happen. America even if it surrendered would never allow it’s self to be occupied. I would have been more interested in seeing how the rest of the world would be and how the Natiz would deal with Russia since they cannot conquer all of Russia.
These long videos make me feel like I’m sitting through one of my old college history lectures & I love it.
Interesting take, that it may have produced a sort of cold war where the other side was a Fascist empire. This would have had major political ramifications in the USA, as the "red scare" would have swung the opposite way on the spectrum. The hard right turn that was taken around 1947 would have likely instead continued to improve New Deal policies, embracing the anti-fascist role.
Wow, seems like it’s all in one take. Great job on that! Don’t see an old-school type video like this much anymore. Great content man
Hitler: *holds out for 5 more months*
Robert Oppenheimer: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
If the U.S. stayed largely out of the war (as the video posits), it would have been much harder or impossible for the government to marshal the enormous $ and resources needed for the Manhattan project.
Nice video as always, just one thing I’ll point out- Germany couldn’t have put off invading the Soviet Union. TIK put up a video on it and explained that they only had three months’ worth of peacetime oil consumptipn by June of 1941. They couldn’t wait because they were that desperate for oil.
Well if the Germans got the oil reserves of the middle east then they will be able to wait
You have put across a very plausible scenario. Though I don't believe that the British would've sued for peace, especially while Churchill was prime minister, I think they would've kept resisting.
I'm actually really curious as to what your thoughts are on the Wolfenstein games from Machinegun Games. I know it's not completely related to what you usually do, but those games are an alternate history thing, which is pretty neat
Yes Wolfenstein is a great example of what I believe the world would look like if they won. Minus the cyborgs and Demons.
Wolfenstien is more realistic than something like man in the high castle, because it gives you a clear reason to why Germany won, technology thousands of years more advanced than that of their enemies
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 technology 10000 years ahead of it's time is incredibly unlikely to ever exist. Just looking at something and knowing it exists lowers the barriers to researching and developing it. No nation can really keep that kind of advantage for long especially since even if you win that technology is still given to your vassals or spread around so much.
I have 5 mistakes that Germany made during ww2 as comments on your TikTok. Love your content. I’m glad to come across another history buff
This was great! I always wondered why Germany spread out so fast instead of consolidating its power.
Early on in the war, Germany realised that it did not have the resources to wage a long bloody war of attrition, later on, they calculated that the Soviet Union would be unstoppable by 1945, so they thought that they may aswell ought to take it out right as they were purging their army
I absolutely love hearing an educated "what if?". Great video!!!
A good series that depicts this is Man in the High Castle! Great video!
Very well thought out - two additional thoughts, first what about when Hitler died and second, what if one side got nuclear weapons? I'd also suspect that having seen Britain beaten Spain would try to retake Gibraltar and Japan would be encouraged to pursue its Greater Co-prosperity idea and of course Italy would have annexed British North Africa..? Could have seen the British Empire in a war with Japan on their own?
depends on what shape those nuclear weapons took. If they were like the American ones used probably not much of a difference. Being able to fire bomb 3 cities isn't that impressive. Nukes were only a real game changer once you could amass 2000 of them or more.
Hitler actually thought the British would be more willing to surrender if they didn't capture their soldiers at Dunkirk.
This could be interesting to have as a setting for some Call of Cthulhu Scenarios might I say.
What do you think would have happened if the central powers had won WW1?
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I'm working on this scenario right now. It's really interesting and it actually changes alot.
Google kaiserreich and you'll have your answer
Another great what-if scenario and well explained. Learned a lot of history as well.
I have never been a history guy but the way you talk about it makes me love it and super interested in it. 👍
Do a what if scenario if the Greeks lose the war and get completely dominated by the Persians. Battle of Marathon and Thermopylae for example.
I have so many lol
What if Persia successfully conquered Hellenic Greece? What if the Brits beat the US in the war for independence? What if the confederates won the Civil War? What would it have taken for the Eastern Bloc to win the Cold War?
Bonus round: What if the US had a second Civil War in the near future?
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It's 10:30 here. Sorry. I worked all day and edited late
Hey bud don’t know why but I’m curious about the effect of the Australian Army in WW2. Love the videos and I’m glad I can find some good history analysis on CZcams 😊
Excellent analysis, the only missing factor I see is the atomic bomb, which side gets it first, and how it would be used.
That’s one of the key questions. Would they have been able to get it at roughly the same time?
Atomic bombs always ruin alternate histories because it always put the world into a apocalyptic state
I think this was probably the most likey senario ive seen. I appreciate it.
One thing I wondered us what if instead of waging war, Germany focused on building and improving itself, how would things have turned out. Some things I can see would be:
no Israel since it was created as a result of the Holocaust.
The US would not reach the height of power that it did.
Oil would not be based on the dollar.
Since scientist would have no need to flee Germany they would benefit from their expertise not the US.
This makes me wonder if Germany would have reached superpower status to rival or surpass the US. Perhaps if a partnership with Russia and/or Great Britain was struck which reminds me that Britain would have held onto its superower status.
So imagine if The Soviet Union, Great Britain, and Germany partnered together. How would that affect the United States on a global scale?
So many possibilities in these reimagining history which makes it fun. Probably more so if I actually knew more of the details of history.
As previously mentioned in other comments below, this subject was pretty well covered already by "The Man in the High Castle". Ultimately the story highlights after the last of that generation of Nazis died off of old age (Himmler being the youngest), the Third Reich would collapse because the young people would've thought the old people were dumb and rejected their beliefs. As proof you only need to look at how the Denazification of Germany really happened. By the mid-60's the original Nazis were all dead or dying and the young people weren't interested in carrying it on. Hitler was absolutely delusional to think his Reich would last 1000 years when it really wouldn't have lasted 20 years past his death at best.
I disagree. Hitler was quite popular with the German people and especially with young people. Denazification happened because Hitler lost the war and thus the Allies made sure to denazify Germany so obviously Germans are going to be pissed off at Hitler because he lost the war so that's why young people in the 60s weren't interested. But in this alternate universe where Hitler doesn't lose he would be extremely popular as he was in reality like for example look at how popular he was when he successfully took France in 1940 with very few casualities and instead of Denazification you would get the complete opposite. The German people were delighted. The Roman empire last 1453+ years with no democracy so it's not that farfetched.
I feel like the British Empire would remain largely intact as colonies weren’t a priority for the Nazi’s in our time line past restoring what Germany had lost previously, and the British while demoralized would be willing to accept a major loss like Egypt but not their whole African possessions.
What if Japan had ignored the US, Soviets and Great Britain, but invaded the Dutch holdings in Asia only. Would they have secured the resources needed to win in China?
I remember reading Hitler’s thoughts that Germany had been remiss in colonizing the world like the British and French and his idea of colonizing was to move east to places like Ukraine. As for how they could’ve won the war think the real emphasis would’ve been on conquering the UK. It was dropping off point for all the US industry and without the UK the US probably wouldn’t even have entered the war. Getting oil from North Africa would’ve allowed them to delay in a Russian invasion. I like your idea on the Japanese not attacking Pearl Harbor and just staying in Asia. I enjoyed watching thank you
There are so many things I wish I had a good 30 or 60 minutes to sit down with you discuss
Anyway on a side note I looked at the map halfway through your presentation and it looks like according to the Japanese progression in North America that we'd be drinking coffee at Starbukimotos and getting airplanes built by Boeingsan
Ultimately, like you essentially said, we would have still ended up with two big countries competing for power and influence. Nazi Germany would have just been a replacement for the USSR. However, I think Nazi Germany would have won the arms/power/influence race, unlike the USSR. Though, like all Empires, different territories would have eventually wanted to break away. Even people of the same race have divisions and the further away people are from the central government, the more likely they'd want to break away. With that said, I think a Nazi Empire could have survived, in some form, for two or three hundred years.
Keep up the good content
It is incredible you can speak on all this!🤯Really amazing to hear!!!!!
I am fascinated by your thoughts on a slower Holocaust. I have always thought that the Holocaust itself shines light on how irrational wars can be: the Germans preferred to keep the trains full of victims to the camps rather than see those same trains supply their teenaged sons dying on the front. One shudders, then, at the thought of what could have been done had they been allowed to take their time.
The camps would probably be similar to American concentration camps or Austrailian or British ones. Although it might be possible that future generations might have had the same quality as American prisons. Given time the end result would be the same lots of deaths, changing race dynamics. There might be more people on Earth in a Nazi led victory compared to modern day times though. As a first world nation would be intentionally trying to increase population rather than immediate attempts to decrease it like in China who prefer to halve their population instead.
@@genericscout5408 They would most likely look like the modern day concentration camps in China
i believe there is a famous army saying.
"there are 3 people you never want pissed at you. Your logi guy, your pilot, and your medic."
I think that's how it goes. i could be very wrong though.
Also, the quote of an army marching on it's stomach was said famously by napoleon bonaparte
Also, with germany having one of the strongest economies in the world at the time, there is reason to believe that they could (in theory) win the cold war, being able to outproduce the united states. plus, unlike the soviets, they wouldn't need to waste time on affairs in western/eastern germany, which really hurt the soviets in the long run.
On the other hand, i have no idea how germany and the USA wouldn't blow each other up with atom bombs, so who's to say?
Other implications of Germany winning include weapons development and the space race. Towards the end of the war,Germany had developed jet fighters and were not far from developing jet bombers. The bombers would have presented a direct threat to the U.S. and their allies within a few years. Also,the Germans were developing an atomic bomb which would have likely been available in a relatively short period and changed the dynamics of world power because the U.S. would have been unlikely to put as much focus on developing their own bomb if they were either not in the war or played a lesser role. If Germany had won the war,scientists such as Werner Von Braun would have remained in Germany. He relocated to the U.S. after the war and played a critical role in the development of the U.S. space program.
You ought to do a podcast as well. One a week on any subject and just tell history for that subject thats not common knowledge. Youd make a killing
Thank you for this video and making a CZcams. I've been following your stuff on tiktok and I'm happy to see you move over to CZcams for long form videos
I love history and agree with the key points of your logic factors i would love your thoughts on would be 1.Adolf's health was shown to be deteriorating towards the end of the war due to drugs and other problems partly because of his personal doctor 2.the outcome if America actually allied with germany and the very start of the war. Again id absolutely love your thoughts.
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Please do if Carthage had one the Punic wars
I just watched. Loved it. I actually do ‘what if’s’ and currently - what if the Germans won the war, what would the implications be on the balkans? Specifically, Croatia dominates Yugoslavia, Albania unites all Albanian populations and would Bulgaria take Nth Macedonia?
Been watching you on tiktok for a few months. Glad to have found you on here.
bro essentially just explained the entire lore of tno
I think you are correct in saying that the Germans would have difficulty maintaining stability if only for economic reasons. Much like the Soviet collapse, Germany would have the same issues compounded by inefficient slave labor. As a side effect of Germany winning, nuclear war would have probably played out eventually.
I think a non-annexation of the Philippines by the USA following the Spanish-American war (which might have happened had Imperial Germany set up shop in Mindanao in the 1880's, and later taken the islands, only to lose them to Japan in WW1) would be the best point of divergence for an eventual Axis victory, especially as America wouldn't have been even considered a target by the Japanese, and thus, no Pearl Harbour, and more resources for Japan to invade the USSR. Also, if Britain was alone in the war, Spain might have joined to take Gibraltar and Morocco, and the Brits would have lost India. Also, the Reich would have fallen following Hitler's death because he was the only man capable of keeping that mess together, but Japan might have survived, and eventually the cold war would have been between the US and Japan, which would be still ongoing I believe.
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I think it’s my computer and ceiling fan. I’ll have those off next time
Without lend lease, being able to transfer a large number of the eastern divisions to counter attack in the west, the naval blockade by the royal navy, the losses the Luftwaffe suffered in the battle of Britain, and the long range strategic bombing of Germany by the allies the outcome of the war with Russia would have been much different
How would their wonder weapons program develop and affect things?
Would the axis be able to develop the atomic bomb and would the US still develop the atomic bomb?
They might have reached it around the same time at that point
Also, if the US was not aggressively building it's military due to wanting to remain uninvolved, the Axis powers would have far surpassed them in all types of military technology along with battle hardened experienced forces.
Good work sir. Followed you over from TicTok. Hope you have had the chance to look at other historians on here - maybe get the chance to do a collaboration with one. Look forward to watching more vids!
Well done! :) Jack
The Japanese were good at surprise attacks. They couldn’t sustain a long term occupation on multiple fronts. Just like why australia was bombed, rather than invaded.
3:55 - I think that, if German warfare had been about "Liebensraum," things would've been much nicer.
I wish one of these what if’s discussed Italy
What it Ferdinand Marcos Senior wasn't ousted , he found the Yamashita Gold and combined it with the Tallano Gold , he completed the Bukang Liwayway Missile Project or Santa Barbara Project and allied himself with Indonesia to split Malaysia in 2 with operation Merdeka?
I find it interesting that you believe democratic capitalism would prevail over fascism. I don't say it would necessarily be the other way, but the system is crumbling in the US as well. It currently is a deeply divided country with rampant clientelism and corruption. Democracy isn't something that exists unopposed, it's a delicate balance that needs to be continuously guarded.
To right. I wish there was a way to show the 2 most polarized what America would be like without capitalism and the other side what America would be like without a healthy dose of compassionate socialism. That's kinda vague, but you get my point? The 2 sides are so entrenched.
Long story short....look at how the Axis set up their win in Man In The High Castle. That would be the best-case scenario for them.
I did this what if on another channel a few months ago. What I came up with was a scenario which shares some common ideas with yours but in mine Germany uses propaganda and doesn't ally themselves solely with Japan and Italy. Italy was embarrassed early and did not make a great ally. Instead, Russia had sent much of their Jewish, Gypsy, Slav and Serf populous to towns bordering other countries as a human wall of undesirables. Had the Nazis allied with the Russian people and with Vladimir Lenin before his death and Stalin when he took power, they would have created an alliance that was near to unstoppable. Had they waited a few years to see the outcome of Japan and China as China was busy with an internal civil war and the rise of Mao Zedong by the late 40's and had Japan not attacked the US which is what you said and had they not spread themselves so thin when trying to conquer Indo China and Asia minor and had no one attacked Australia with U-Boats and had they not focused so much on Africa and had they placed backing to those in Canada and South America as well as Mexico and Central America they would have systematically found allies against the United States that would have given them North America without nearly the struggle they had. Also had the battle of Midway not been decided by a lack of decision in sending and or scuttling planes and bringing up the reserves faster from the lower deck or just sending all the bombers to start with and making a more successful run the first hit then we might be talking about things much differently if we were even here today. Once Germany became the leader of a world of fascists then they could have decided who lived and who died with impunity.
Good video. Well thoughtout
Just ran across this video today, that is a very good assessment, well done.
WW2 could have played out in many ways. Britain didn't invent radar - or crack the Enigma code. Spitfires weren't developed or Barnes Wallace bouncing bomb. Also had Germany created the Atom Bomb first as the US didn't have a say in the war much of the Soviet Union would have been nuked. Also had Germany allied with the Soviets as they did against Poland - and Germany hadn't invaded the Soviet Union it's very likely that jackboots would have landed in the mainland UK.
Brilliant young man
I have often wonder “What if we had lost WWII. I imagined that Germany and Japan would have split the US and we would be speaking German or Japanese depending on where they split it: at the Mississippi or the Rockies
Extremely interesting piece. Well thought through.
We had a great debate at school (many, many years ago now.(1980s)), about "What if" the Black shirts under Mosley had won the UK election and the UK had joined the Axis forces from the start because of France's lack of thanks for WW1, they're old grevances with the UK, and us Brits being more more inline with our Saxon cousins (via Anglo-Saxonism). It lead to some very crazy outcomes and a few friends (temporarily) falling out with each other! lol.
There was so many outcomes to list, some were the whole of the EU under German rule with Italy and the UK as parter or vassal states (a real united EU). Another had the US because of ties to the UK and Canada joining that joint EU Axis power as an ally mainly for trade and profit. But in nearly every scenario we had, the Russia, China and Africa were wiped out and populated by said Axis forces in a "New World" type of thing/land grab. And every one of them played out with Trillions of those loosing peoples lives being taken. In the end with Germany, Italy, UK (and her colonies), US and Japan as the only super powers left and fully in charge of the planet. One part that didn't play out was those super powers turning on each other at some point over power and/or greed.... The way Humans behave, it was a near cert at some point.
The TV series "The Man in the High Castle" is a good twist on this, and well worth a watch imo.
Thank you for the video, it sure does raise many questions indeed! :)
Love the video! Great content! 👍🏻
Something I’ve always wondered on scenarios like this, would it be more acceptable in the us for people to support fascism?
What if the whole US Pacific fleet had been fully wiped out at pearl harbor by the Japanese.
This made me once again Appreciate that axis lost, also I’m not sure how the cold war would’ve player out without the Atom bombs as they would likely not have been developed by any nation (with usa having no need and Germany giving up on the project)
Idea, what if prohibition were still in effect.
I know you mentioned Dunkirk and if we had not been able to get our troops out it would have pushed us out for a while. But what about the British colonies? Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India....etc. if I remember rightly India provided more troops than anyone during the war? I appreciate that lend lease was a huge benefit to us, but if that wasn't available surely we could have ramped up production in our colonies instead? Our professional army in Britain may have been gone, but we still had the biggest navy in the world and a brilliant (for the time) air force.
There is a game called Axis and Allies that starts out at a point during the war where on paper, either side could have won. My brother loves this game but hates playing it with me. He always wants to be the Allies and when we started playing, he always won. But then, after two or three games, I started winning all the time. Germany lost because of decisions made by it's leaders that were not strategic in nature but more emotional. After a few games, I started to think strategically with regard to alliances, military manufacturing, troop movements, when to hold back and when to attack, etc. When you take the Axis side that way, they win.
And one thing people, especially Americans forget: The attack on Pearl Harbour brought the US into the war, but fighting it, especially in Europe, was never popular. In fact, the whole US fight during WWII was on the back of the draft, wherein more US troops were garnered through the draft than through volunteers. That could have worked out poorly for the US. Also, the US was not only selling to the Soviets and UK, they were also selling to Germany. So the US was really too keen on taking sides.
Also, the Japanese decided to move south after a failed attempt to expand north. The Japanese army did attack Mongolia, and as an ally to the Soviets, the Soviets helped defeat the Japanese, who then had to retreat back out of Mongolia. As a result, the Japanese were then wary of the Soviets, so the decision was made to expand south.
Man in the High Tower
Plot twist: Spain invades Japan, Germany and the Unated States at the same time and wins war
Nice effort! Your points are correct refencing if Japan did not attack the USA and Japan went after Russia. Your observation about if Dunkirk would of been A military disaster. If the Army of Dunkirk would of Surrendered and Japan captured Singapore captured another British Army. If Hitler would said to England. Ok, here's the deal. We will offer all POW'ed from Singapore and Dunkirk. In trade we want a Non Aggression treaty and Japan gets the far east! France and Netherlands you will be semi independent and fully independent with in 10 years! The Price is French Indo China and Dutch east indies. USA you will receive Greenland for not getting involved. This scenario gives Japan the oil it needs without conflict and energizes their war machine! England maintains most of her empire. Ironically Germany and Japan had a almost positive view of England! So not fighting her was ok in their book. Also if Hitler would of not been so pressured he might of treated the Ukrainians a little better, hence a more docile and possibly friendly conquered Nation! Remember the first German marching into Ukraine was greeted by women with flowers and as liberators. The Russian England France relationship was classic Enemy of my Enemy is my friend! Nothing more. Hence the Operation Unthinkable after the war that Churchill was toying with invading Russia! So England and France might of been ok with Germany eliminating Russia. Certainly, they would NOT of been willing to rehash a fight with Germany again over it.
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Love your content! Thank you
I would be interested in your take on the development of the atomic bomb in such a scenario.
Yes the soviets had bleed the most but they were so much larger than the other opponents. I'd like to see a ratio of civilians killed across axis invaded nations.
What would've happenned to greece and Ethiopia in this scenario?
Loved the video well thought out and executed.what do you think germany's plan was.
Very interesting. What would have happened in the Mediterranean and the Middle East with Italy? Who would have got the oil?
Yeah I feel like everyone of these alte history videos skip over Italy. I get they weren’t the main target in ww2, but it’s still interesting to see what would’ve happened to them.
I personally feel like they would be similar to Spain after ww2. They would probably benefit from the oil a little bit, seeing some good economic growth right after the war. However, they would definitely have a hard time holding the colonies after a while. They had encouraged Italian settlements in our timeline, but they didn’t go to the extreme the Germans did. So they will have to deal with a hostile populations that would fight for independence, and you know the guerrilla fighters would get support from the US and Britain. Overtime I’d see them loosing control over a good portion for their empire. They still have some costal territory around the Mediterranean that they were able to settle and keep loyal. They could probably even get away with setting up some puppet governments in the new independent nations, if they play their cards right.
so we have 1984 but more nuanced
You should do a Dark History of the ' Experiments ' that came from the Holocaust and HOW much we learned and use from it today.
There is one major difference, while the idea of two Superpowers appearing would be similar to our world, the different is the new Cold War would not have the Nuclear threat. The U.S. not being involved in the war or not to the same extent, means it would not have had the time or money to develop all the technology it did, like the control systems for the B-29, The Bat and other guided weapons and early drones, and Nuclear weapons! With out the use of Nuclear weapons at the end of WWII and the world seeing the horrors of nuclear war but only on a extremely small scale, there is a good chance the human race would not have gotten past that Fermi Filter.
Very good video. The Sound/Eco was not so good. What if Germany invented the first atomic bomb? They were working on heavy water experiments.
I think that Japan would be like China in the cold war, staying by Germany's side but try to show that they have power too
The US would not be compelled to build the bomb via the Manhattan project but Germany might move forward with their bomb project and thus threaten the US to surrender which it would.
Nations which are economic lightweights always fail to compete despite a nuclear capability. History always deals up unexpected variables. Who in 1945 could have foreseen the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962? Factors such as these may well have impacted a possible Axis victory in the mid term?
one of the easiest ways this scenario would play out is if charles lindbereg had ran for president and won as a noninterventionist republican president. as he had planned to do. so maybe an episode on a lindberg presidency.
The theory behind an Axis win in WW2 is fascinating as so many of the details are a bit vague. The only real concrete plans are Lebensraum and an 'inevitable' wat with the US, most of what i've seen just seems to be we'll figure it out when we get there. A bit like their plans for operation Barbarossa to be fair.
Another history alternative which has fascinated me is: what if Stalin was murdered at Yalta? Would there have been a more equitable ending to the war as in Germany left whole? Would there have been a cold war after? To say World War 2 devastated the Russians might be an exaggeration but not by much. The West would have gotten richer rebuilding Europe AND RUSSIA with the Cold War a non-starter. Mao Tse-Dung's China (assuming Mao came to power in the first place) would have been an afterthought - not the military power it became. "Police actions" like Korea and, indeed, Viet-nam would probably not have happened - no available Chinese support!
Food for thought maybe?
John Shaw
Calgary Alberta Canada
Well, if you really think it could last 40 or 50 years, you have to ask how effective was their breeding program?
You failed to mention the Atomic Bomb and its possible use on Berlin etc.