Terminator 3 and Terminator Salvation. Terminating in the 2000's
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
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Stam Fine looks at the Terminator films of the 2000's, 2003's Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (Claire Danes, Nick Stahl) and 2009's Terminator Salvation (Christian Bale), along with a quick look at the 2008 TV series, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Lena Headey, Thomas Dekker, Summer Glau). Only one gets the real Arnold Schwarzenegger.
0:00 Introduction
01:46 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
05:27 The Sarah Connor Chronicles
06:30 Terminator Salvation - Zábava
These films were not that bad. Better than the last 2.
Maybe I'm alone but i adore T 3 …as good as T -1 & T-2, No. Above average? Yes! (That’s my philosophy: compare films to the average movie instead of comparing it to the best; you’ll enjoy films much more)
Take a look at the Robocop vs. Terminator comic by Frank Miller and Walt Simonson. It's probably the best spin-off to come out of all this.
It is - That would make a brilliant film, or let's be realistic, the franchise is so tarnished at this point, I'd settle for a Netflix adaptation, in four parts like the comic.
I remember “talk to the hand” being an outdated phrase by 10 years when this movie released.
Stam Fine....YOU are one hilarious dude! Thanks for the many laughs from your vids.
Glad you enjoyed!
I know Nick Stahl seems like an almost unknown, but Carnivale is an outstanding HBO series from 2003 that features him as show lead and he's great as a reluctant avatar of Good in the 1920s dust bowl. It'll make sense when you watch it. mostly.
I liked Terminator 4, it did it's own thing, unlike all the others, and holds up well.
Keep going man!
Always!
I would have just said the info on the chip from T2 was copied unbeknownst to Dyson and set up the possibility of a new villain for Connor to stop. Or just adapt the novel sequel to T2 that was about Sarah and John meeting the special forces agent who was the model for the T800.
They seemed to a decent job of continuing on TV, but little clue in the movies.
Sarah Connor Chronicles was a good series, and Brian Austin Green was surprisingly good.
Just recently found your channel and now I'm binging my way through your catalog. I like your concise, yet informative, approach!
Also, in hindsight, Terminator Salvation had a lot of potential to take the series in a new, refreshing direction. Too bad it didn't come to fruition, as Genysis was an absolute piece of trash.
2:55 It's actually spelled "Kristanna".
I did like both movies when I saw them...in a way they were better than I thought. As movies by themselves you can enjoy them well. But not good enough successors to the original 2. Terminator 2 is one of my all time favourite movies! It's still awesome to this day
This should have been two videos, as Salvation is different than any other Terminator movies and has to be excluded from the bunch.
Melbourne Cricket Ground doesn't direct many movies - but when it does... it removes far too much Terry Crews.
Terminator 3 at least had some good scenes in it and it did make you laugh once in a while but the movies after that was just abysmal. (I never watched anything after T3 but never heard much good about them, Lol) It is kind of like the SW prequels, great scenes, had some good stuff in them, execution lacking in some areas but what came after makes them seem grade A.
I saw terminator 3 when it came out, but by the time I got around to watching salvation at the movies, I forgot everything that happened in 3 and therefore I could not understand anything that was happening onscreen. Including who Worthington's character was and the purpose for him being in the movie. I was entertainingly bored
I have a soft spot for salvation, I didnt like it the first time but after I watched 3 I started appreciating it for doing something new. I just wished they leaned in more on the scifi stuff.
in my opinion, Terminator Salvation is an ok movie and probably the best one so far...
nick Stanley was good in Sin City.
When I first watched T4 I just couldn't understand why it was so bad - because in my opinion, what had been mainly wrong with T3 (besides the terribly cringy 'humour') was the fact that they couldn't get John Connor right. I know he was supposed to be a directionless man without purpose, but that's not the John Connor I wanted to see: I wanted to know why he was so important that robots were sent to kill/save him, etc.
And then I saw all the trailers for T4 and thought that this had to be good - it had to be fucking amazing! They had BATMAN as John Connor! What could go wrong? And then I watched it and he didn't do much except listen to tapes and talk on the radio. And the post nuclear apocalypse world was not devastated and full of rubble like what we'd seen in previous films.
But years later I found out the truth - that T4 had never been about John Connor - no, it was seen as a vehicle for Sam Worthington, who was going to be the new Arnie in another iteration of the franchise. Besides making the obvious joke (stop trying to make Sam Worthington happen! He's never gonna etc etc), I often ask myself what was the strange hold he had over the film industry in 2009.
T800!?! I thought they called him the T850? 🤪
It's a little murky but generally he's known onscreen as a Model 101 or T800. 850 appears in other media/toys/dvd extras, etc
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_(character)
If they keep making crap Terminator movies the older ones will look better in comparison. When T4 was released I thought T3 wasn't so bad.
Same shit with the Alien franchise.
T3 had good action but it's a monster movies with a no sense monster - and it's plot makes no sense and it sort of pisses on the first 2. T4 was more faithful but was a real slog to watch, the plot made zero sense, and it had no monster. T5 had a good monster and some smart action, but some god awful time-travel alternate dimensions plot-exposition and the monster kept talking to them and not killing them - so whiney. T6 again some good fights but weak monster weak plot. T1 was the best monster, mood, pacing and best scenario - T2 best heart, action and plot. T5 is the only passable movie since, and it's not good. I never saw the series, but from adverts and such it looked slow and overdramatic.
well, to me at least, the show at least felt like it tried to expand on the first two movies, while everything from 3 on was trying to splinter off into a new direction that never seemed to pan out. It's like building lots of highway off ramps that only lead to dead ends, or Saab dealerships.
@@StamFine They keep trying to reinvent the original terminator - but the original terminator is still a relevant movie villan/ monster - the implacable bodybuilder, invulnerable hate machine of the corporate 80's. That's why Arnie keeps coming back - but only batman and the Joker have managed to re-invent themselves. The alien hasn't, Freddy Kreuger hasn't, Superman is on and off.
Salvation sucks. It’s the future but with no plasma rifles. The humans seem to be well-groomed and healthy for what’s supposed to be a destroyed civilization after a nuclear attack. The giant grabbing machines look more like transformers rejects. The rest of the terminators should be called ‘throw-inators.’ It’s rated pg-13 and not R.
"The humans seem to be well-groomed and healthy for what’s supposed to be a destroyed civilization after a nuclear attack." This is one of the two things which I hated most about Terminator Salvation - we'd seen future scenes in other movies, and they were all destroyed landscapes full of rubble. And then T4 comes along and we're all traipsing through the countryside on a road trip. WTF.