KIA EV6 Overview from a Tesla Model Y owner
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- I drove an EV6 for 2 weeks. Here are my rather extensive thoughts. ☺️
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:44 - The looks
00:01:21 - Different models available
00:01:41 - The Key
00:02:56 - Smart parking
00:04:03 - Auto unlock
00:05:09 - No auto lock
00:05:33 - No Kia connect app in Australia
00:06:06 - Frunk
00:07:16 - The Boot
00:08:39 - Vehicle to load Pt1
00:09:56 - Child seat latches
00:10:29 - Manual release of charge cable
00:11:43 - Charge port
00:12:58 - V2L pt2
00:16:06 - The back seats
00:16:19 - Space
00:16:31 - Air vents
00:16:56 - Storage
00:17:13 - USB ports
00:17:31 - More power options
00:17:53 - Armrests
00:18:28 - Flat floor
00:18:55 - Headrest
00:19:21 - Seat positions
00:20:11 - Driver stuff
00:20:27 - Center Console
00:21:07 - Wireless Phone charger
00:21:31 - Power button
00:23:54 - Heated and Ventilated seats
00:25:04 - Storage in the Center Console
00:25:43 - Random cool sun glasses pitch
00:27:12 - USB power and data
00:27:55 - Apple CarPlay
00:28:32 - Door buttons
00:28:59 - Mirror adjustments and lower mirrors in reverse
00:30:27 - Seat adjustments
00:31:54 - Steering wheel adjustments and buttons
00:32:08 - Buttons next to driver
00:33:11 - Climate control and Nav touch settings
00:33:57 - Steering Wheel buttons
00:35:13 - Drive modes
00:35:52 - Settings start
00:36:37 - Car settings
00:39:31 - Heads up display settings
00:44:10 - Driver cluster display settings
00:45:56 - Climate control
00:46:42 - Unlock power tailgate by walking up to locked car
00:47:29 - Turn off wireless charger
00:47:59 - EV Settings
00:49:06 - Adjusting charging speed on AC
00:50:24 - Utility mode V2L
00:51:06 - Smart reduction or regenerative driving
00:52:37 - Charging connector lock
00:53:17 - Audible Charging info
00:53:53 - Navigation
00:54:52 - Maps correction
00:56:38 - Ding when lights go green
00:57:36 - Speed camera settings
00:58:31 - Sound system
01:00:07 - Phone connection Bluetooth
01:00:20 - Profiles
01:00:47 - Theme and layout
01:01:34 - Split screen
01:02:08 - Cluster theme
01:02:31 - Custom button
01:03:12 - Quiet Mode
01:04:11 - Mode button
01:04:37 - General Settings
01:05:20 - EV settings
01:06:30 - Battery info
01:07:01 - See nearby chargers
01:07:42 - 360 cameras
01:08:05 - Voice memos
01:08:28 - Climate settings
01:08:52 - Radio and Media
01:11:13 - Settings destination in maps
01:12:49 - i-Pedal or one pedal driving
01:14:19 - suspension
01:16:55 - Heads up display
01:17:13 - Adaptive cruise and lane keep assist
01:18:57 - Blindspot monitoring and camera
01:20:33 - Speed Vs Speed
01:21:10 - More details on the maps
01:22:14 - Find Chargers nearby
01:22:42 - Adjusting adaptive cruise speed
01:24:18 - Great maps UI
01:26:48 - Speed camera notification
01:27:23 - Lane Keep assist stays on after chaning lanes
01:28:11 - Effect of AC on range
01:29:35 - Interesting experience
01:31:34 - Summation - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Well done, Archie! You sure did an amazing job explaining the back seat. 😀
Thanks so much for taking the time to comment. I showed Archie the comment and he loved it. 😊
Your "the EV6 is nicer" comment is quite amusing - I thought so too, and it is what I initially ordered.
Partly because comments my wife made about Tesla... "what's with that big iPad in the middle"
KIA played funny buggers on delivery timing and price rises, and weren't receptive to feedback about that... so on a rage induced whim I ordered a Y one night, theory being I'd take whichever came first.
About three weeks later, I took my wife to see both models in the flesh, and she preferred the Tesla. In many respects I am glad, because the Tesla charging network has been a great asset, and we're ultimately very happy with the car.
I still sometimes wonder what life would be like with the EV6 though - I still think its the nicer looking of the two!
Glad to hear you're happing with your final choice. We are still very happy with the Model Y and love having it. That feeling of "the EV6 feels nicer" was a very initial gut feeling when getting back into the Model Y. Of course a week and a bit later now, I am used to it again.
I think you would have been happy with either of the two. There is no such thing as a perfect thing. ☺️ One of the things I really want to try and get across in these videos is that it's great that we have options and it comes down to each of us deciding which features and functions are going to best suit us and which compromises we are willing to make as you're always going have to compromise on some things. ☺️
Lee's joy at the sleep seat mode was hilarious :D Even though you said it's not a review, it's as detailed (and as real-world) a review of a EV as I've seen, so don't short-change yourself!
Thank you, that’s very kind of you to say. 😀
Great to see you getting the family involved in this overview!
Thanks, glad they were amenable to help out. 😀
Another amazing video. Congrats to the kid for how he handled explaining everything, really well done !
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, Archie did very well, very proud of him. ☺️
"Utility Mode" is similar to Tesla's "Camp Mode". When you want to run HVAC/Media with driving disabled, you use Utility Mode to power those functions off the traction battery, preserving the 12v battery. Some owners use Utility Mode and the mechanical key to create a makeshift "Dog Mode" as well.
Regarding the Australian tuned suspension, different countries and regions use different road construction techniques and standards, and face different conditions. Even different speed limits impact the way the suspension works. In addition, their are cultural preferences. Chinese drivers tend to prefer a very soft ride, European drivers prefer a firmer ride, etc. Some manufacturers adjust a cars suspension for different regions in order to better conform to local conditions and preferences. This doesn't just affect the ride quality, but also handling and steering. A given spring/shock combination might work very well absorbing sharp bumps like a pothole, but can't handle course surfaces as well, or maybe it smooths out course surfaces, but bounces around on a rolling bump. To accommodate these differences, they may install different shocks, springs, sway bars, and bushings. They may use different tyres, or alignment settings. The downside is it increases development and manufacturing costs and complexity.
Australia, being a large nation with a small population and reactive soils, tends to have fairly poor roads outside of cities, with course chip construction. That is very different from the roads in Korea, or the US. The fact Kia saw fit to undertake the expense of tuning the EV6 for a small market like Australia is very impressive.
The reason why 1-pedal driving is less efficient is because it tends to use regen more. That seems counter-intuitive, but you have to remember that regen is not 100% efficient. There is always some lost energy.
To accelerate to speed, you are taking energy in the form of electricity and converting it to motion. But some of the energy gets wasted in the form of heat due to mechanical drag and electric resistance. Once up to speed, mechanical and aerodynamic drag bleeds off some of that energy, forcing you to continually use more electricity to replace the lost energy. When you use regenerative braking, it takes the energy of your motion and converts it back into electricity which is stored in the battery. However, that process introduces additional waste. The aerodynamic and mechanical drag are still present, plus you are now losing additiinal energy due to inefficiencies in the regen system.
From a practical standpoint, if you are driving and have to slow down in 1km, it is more efficient to coast for that km using the aero and mechanical drag that is always present to slow you, than it is to continue powering the car and then using regen to slow the car in 200m. If you coast during that km you are not using any electricity. But if you drive for 800m, using electricity the whole time, then use regen (which is not 100% efficient) to slow down, you will never get back the amount of energy you spent. It is always more efficient to not use electricity at all than it is to use electricity (at a loss) and then try to recover it (at a loss).
Now, in the real world, it is not practical to always coast down for a stop light or sharp corner that's 2-3km away. Other drivers will get very annoyed with you. And regen braking is much better than friction braking, but for the best efficiency you need to minimise ALL braking. The most practical way to do that is to use the EV6s "Auto Regen" mode and blended braking, not 1-pedal. I hope that makes sense.
While I disagree that putting the blind spot camera in the HUD would be useful (I think it would be distracting and difficult to distinguish), I did like your philosophy that it's really easy if someone else has to do it.
The car travelling slower than your indicated speed is actually standard practice in the automotive industry. It is done to accommodate for changes in spec, tyre sizes, wear, and to provide the driver a bit of a legal buffer. 3-4% is typical. One thing I appreciate it the nav is that it not only warns of speed cameras, but will display your average speed when in an average speed zone so you know if you need to slow to get your average down.
I was also a bit disappointed in the lack of auto-locking. My Mazda MX-5 is 8 years old and it auto-locks (though doesn't unlock automatically). But something I've noticed with the MX-5 is I have to double check that the auto-lock worked, because sometimes it doesn't work and I find the car left unlocked. This I speculation, but perhaps the reason Kia doesn't enable auto-locking is because they know it can't be 100% reliable and they decided it is more important to ensure the car's security than to mildly improve convenience. That said, pressing the door handle to lock after shutting the door is hardly a hassle.
Finally, I really appreciated your summary. I am often asked for car recommendations and I always make sure to suggest people try as many options as practical. Many of the things a Tesla Model Y does well are easy to showcase on a website or CZcams video, or in a short viewing. The EV6 is not so impressive on paper (or screen). It's when driving and living with the car that its qualities and strengths become apparent.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the information. 🙏🏼
Given that you said this is not a review and your not a car guy ..... this is the best review video I've watched on the EV6 and I've watched a fair few .... because its a review by a genuine normal driver not a reviewer ..... fantastic video Lee .... well done.
Thank you for taking the time to leave such a lovely comment. So glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully you enjoy some of my other videos. ☺️
You put a tonne of work into this overview Lee, great stuff. A lot of information to glean from this video. Thanks for teh plug at the end too :) Can concur, this is a lovely car to get around in and definitely an easy transition for anyone who's never owned an EV before.
Thanks mate, and thanks again for your help. 🙏🏻
Thanks for the review. I own two EVs (Model 3 SR+ and Seal Performance) and never considered EVs from other manufacturers, such as Kia, Hyundai or Polestar, because I always thought they were too expensive in comparison. My opinion hasn't changed.
Expensive is a relative term. 😉 Most people may consider any EV too expensive? 🤷🏻
@@notacarguy_au Yes, the EV6 is expensive relative to the best selling EVs on the market (mainly Telsa but BYD and other Chinese brands will soon catch up). In contrast, the Seal easily competes with premium German cars but the price is a relative bargain in Australia.
Wonderful detailed and very useful review Lee. Thank you!
Thanks Chris. ☺️🙏🏻
Good video. Great bloopers 😆
Thanks, you know sometimes I think I only makes these videos for the bloopers. 🤣
I've had one for 3 months now. NO glasses holder is a royal pain in the arse. Changing gear requires a VERY aggressive press on the break which is horrible. No wireless Apple Car play. No connectivity in the car. For a $90k car, The BYD Seal will kill this car. Not sure if I'll be keeping it 5 years with all the little annoyances I've found so far. You've noted a lot of the things with the boot press. Overall, the car is good, but just not great. Kia / Hyundai could do so much better.
It all comes down to what each of us want and are willing to compromise on. Sorry to hear you’re not enjoying it that much due to those little annoyances.
Glad t see you are driving a decent car at last. seriously though i was tossing up to decide which to buy and eventually decided on the EV6.having ordered it back in october and only just arrived in dealers it would have been nice to have had Teslas delivery..
great and informativ vid.
One person's decent car is another person's not decent car. 🤣 I'm glad there are options for different folks needs. 🤷🏻
What an incredible review! Your skillset in production really shines in these long review videos. Did you do this for this length with your Model Y? I'd love to see a more thorough overview of the Model Y like this one. Thanks Lee
Thank you, that's very kind of you to say, yes I did do one for my Model Y in fact it was one of my first videos. So you can go back to the start of my videos and see it there. Hope you enjoy it. ☺️ You may also enjoy my overview of the Polestar 2 and a brief look I did at an Atto 3.
I'll pepper in some additional information as an owner. There is just so much in this car that it becomes to cover everything, even in a very thorough video like yours. I missed a lot of stuff in my own Adelaide to Brisbane road trip vid (available on my channel :) if interested).
The mechanical key is hidden in the key fob. There's a small button near the ring that releases it.
The front boot isn't huge, but I keep my level 1 charger, a few cables and adapters, a 30m extension cord, tyre repair kit, V2L adapter, battery booster, small tool kit, tie down straps, picnic blanket, and a few other small things that I don't want rattling around the boot. Plenty useful.
Similar to the auto unlock feature, if the car is locked and you walk up to the boot for a few seconds with the key in your pocket, the boot will open. Good for full hands. (You mentioned this later)
There are some owners who have a plug installed in their home circuit box allowing them to plug the V2L directly into the house in the event of an outage. Even without that, you can still run an extension cord and power select items in your home.
On the combination HVAC/Media capacitive screen, you can hold the switch button for a few seconds, which will bring up a menu allowing you to set a default for the screen. I have mine set on HVAC, so if I switch to Media it will automatically switch back to HVAC after a few idle seconds. Means I don't have to double check which mode it is in before using it.
There is a semi-hidden 4th drive mode for Snow that adjusts traction and stability control, throttle mapping, and limits regen (to prevent regen from locking the drive wheels).
I quite like the HUD, I just wish I could turn off the speed limit display in the HUD as I find it too big and bright, especially at night.
I'll have to finish the video tomorrow, so you may hear more from me. Thanks for your effort!
That extra plug that folks can have installed in their homes to use the V2L sounds really interesting. Is it something that any sparky can do or is it a bit more complicated than that?
I'm not a sparky, so to CMA, don't take my words as practical advice. Get the advice, recommendations, and labour of a real electrician.
As I understand it, though, because the V2L outputs at 240v, there are no adapters, converters, or anything special needed. Just a 15amp male plug wired into your home's breaker box.
Some people put it directly in the box, being the easiest and cheapest install, but others will put it in their garage so the car is sheltered when in use.
It's not quite as easy to use as a proper Vehicle to Grid charger setup, and doesn't have the load capacity, but it can still power most of your home for days.
What's more, you can have the sparky wire it into select circuits, so it only powers those rooms and appliances you need, bypassing high-draw appliances (like hvac) that you can live without in the case of a long blackout.
Great video Lee! I have recently changed to an EV6 from a Y.
Auto mode is the most efficient in my travels!
Totally hear you in your summation as well!
Thanks for the info about Auto that's good to know, I still don't think I would use the Auto mode. I love full single pedal so much. 🤣
Best of luck with your EV6, are you still happy with your move from the Y?
@@Joe-ud2hb thanks mate! Couldn't be happier to be perfectly honest. Difference between the vehicles has been chalk and cheese!
@@harloThat's really saying it, had you issues with the Y? Is there a bit of difference in efficiency? An EV 6 in Ireland is currently bout €9k more than a Y
@@Joe-ud2hb had a few issues with the Y; namely build quality, poor customer service and continual frustrations with the TACC (didn't even trust the AP).
Definitely a difference in efficiency, my guess would be 20-30% but the comfort, fit and finish of the car but for me it has been more than worth it. You are luckier in Ireland as you have the App (we don't have Kia Connect here in Australia) and even for me this was a big factor, but nothing compared to the lack of foresight in the Y engineering.
Certainly has some features I wish my Tesla had, but having come from a Nissan Leaf prior, I do not miss the plethora of buttons that seem to be in no logical position all over the dash.
Would be nice to have all the features we all want in a car. Though I wonder if we all got what we wanted, would it simply end up being like the Homer car? 😂
loved the video as always, a bit long thou.
That’s what…. 🤣
Think you can switch off the wireless charging so that your phone doesn't get over hot if you have the lead plugged in for carplay so you havent got 2 lots of charge going into your phone
thanks
Have you tried the ev cables and chargers available from super cheap auto? Wondering what the quality is like.
I haven't, I didn't even know they did them, but will have a look. Thanks for mentioning it. ☺️
Its funny how Australia gets the RWD GT Line, here in NZ the GT Line is AWD only.
We have both the Kia EV6 GT Line and a 2021 40kwh Nissan Leaf, and I prefer driving the Nissan Leaf! The EV6 of course is fantastic on the long trips.
It is often a mystery to me how companies decide to release different version of things in different countries. What is it about the Leaf that you prefer?
@notacarguy_au The Leaf is much more easy to drive and park in the city. But I would never take it out of the city. That is where the EV6 excels.
As much as I like driving my EV6, I can absolutely concede that it is a deceptively big car and it can sometimes be tricky in tight city streets and carparks. My wife says she probably wouldn't be able to drive the car without the 360 cameras.
@amperformance7998 lol we brought a demo 2023 EV6 Air, it had done just 300km when we got and we put on another 1700km in the week that we had owned it, we were very lucky and did not lose any money when we then traded it in on the GT Line, just so my wife could get that 360 degree camera! Of course, the ventilated seats are nice, too.
Our Kia dealer has said they are expecting the release of the Kia EV5 which looks like a baby EV9. I believe that will be amazing especially with tlhe battery size which will be up to 88kwh in size.
That does sound interesting, now if only we could get them to be a bit cheaper. ☺️
@notacarguy_au Our ones will be made in China so is theory it should be much cheaper.
I understand the EV5 should effectively replace the Niro EV and compete as a more premium alternative to the Atto3. So expect prices in the $55-70k range.
@amperformance7998 I am not sure it is a replacement for the Niro as the EV5 is almost the same size as the EV6. However, the upcoming EV3 will be a similar size to the Niro. I believe the EV5 is 4.615 metres long, and the EV3 4.4 metres, which is about the same as the Niro.
The EV5 is definitely a bigger and more advanced car than the Niro. When I talked about it being a replacement, I was referring to market position and pricing, not size.
The EV5 (smaller, less sporty, 400v, China-built, broader appeal) has to come in under the EV6, a pricing spot currently held by the Niro. In order to prevent the two vehicles from competing with each other, Kia will either have to drop the Niro's price significantly, or drop the model all together. Effectively replacing it with the much bigger EV5 until the EV3 arrives to take the Niro's role at a much lower price.
Whilst this looks like a fantastic car, you can understand the minimalist view of a Tesla. All the settings seems way over the top with most you wouldn’t touch after a first view
I think it's a case of different strokes for different folks. 🤷🏻 Some people prefer the minimalist feel of the Tesla and others really like having all the buttons. I, I think like most people, fall somewhere in the middle.
I like the idea of having a minimalist look, but then still having all the settings and functions under that if you want to go digging. Kinda the best of both worlds.☺️