The Truth of the Claim Against Haiden Deegan's Bike | Part 1 - Schofield, Deegan, Burkeen, & Cotter
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- We've been digging and digging to get to the bottom of the claim against Haiden Deegan's Star Yamaha YZ250F at the 2022 Loretta Lynn National. In part 1 of our investigation, we talk to Brennan Schofield (the one who claimed the bike), Tim Cotter (MX Sports), Mike Burkeen (AMA Official), and Brian Deegan. Part 2 will feature Matt Walker and Donnie Luce (Yamaha).
Intro 00:00 - 06:17
Brennan Schofield 06:18 - 44:09
Tim Cotter (MX Sports) 44:10 - 1:20:00
Mike Burkeen (AMA) 1:20:01 - 2:04:49
Brian Deegan 2:04:50 - 2:08:36 - Sport
Couple key things I found while conducting these interviews: Brennan does admit that there was an offer of sort from Yamaha of engines to replace so damaged ones he had along with an opportunity to test the bike at Goat Farm.
Burkeen states that the AMA rules relating to a claim will only penalize another party if they counter claim a bike to interfere or if a rider is directly threatened by the claimed party. Negotiating a deal to receive some level of support in return for dropping a claim is NOT against the rules.
Brennan also admits that he actually doesn't know if his bike sponsor / dealer was threatened by Yamaha, it was assumed.
Cotter and Burkeen speak very highly of dealing with Brennan and his handling of the situation.
Cotter and Burkeen both speak about the engine builder trying to be involved a decent bit.
Cotter and Burkeen both state that they were told his parents "weren't around" and in retrospective they both wish they would've asked further on this.
Both admit to not realizing that Brennan was under 18 in the moment.
Burkeen states he didn't deny the kid the ability to make the claim without his parents around as he didn't want to run down the clock and risk the kid not being able to make the claim against the bike. He absolutely didn't want to interfere with the process and have it look like the AMA / MX Sports would deny a legitimate bike claim.
Cotter, Burkeen, and Deegan all match up with a much shorter time line for the conversation with Brennan in the office. Their versions of Deegan's questions all match Brennan's.
The haters don’t want the facts they just want their version based on who they like. It’s sad but political thought processes have creeped into motocross minds.
This was extremely well written, you laid out all the facts and I believe it was balanced and unbiased.
Yamaha (McCarty) have a rather lengthy reputation over the years....
Was there an AMA official present in the room with Brian and Brennan when the claim was brought up? I mean this seems simple the kid claimed a bike per the rules so why didn't he get it? Doesn't matter if claiming a bike is frowned upon or some sort of unwritten rule. Written rules > unwritten rules.
@@Aegeus148 he rescinded the claim to the bike so he didn’t get it. It’s been alleged that offers were made to him by Yamaha to not take the bike and also alleged that threats were made by Yamaha to his dealership and sponsors.
Classic Brian Deegan, calls the kid dirty for wanting to do a monetized youtube video about the bike, when he himself has the biggest monetized channel in the sport. Whats dirty is blackmailing a 17 year old out of his sponsorships. I sure wish the kid would have gone thru with it and revealed why Star could not let that bike be claimed.
Brennan hated Haiden, he was already talking shit about Haiden before the race at Southwick then crashed into Haiden at Southwick and talked shit about Haiden after Southwick czcams.com/video/SsPs0rctZLs/video.html
Lol defamed from CZcams he defamed himself
The kid should’ve went through with it because they were going to yank his sponsees to begin with. Atleast he would have a badass bike.
When did he call him dirty? Who blackmailed him? His own sponsors?
@@Shawn-ts4jw watch the Deegans recent lorettas video. At the end Brian talks about the situation. He plays it off like its no big deal and the kid was just trying to make a buck off their family. Calls were made to the kids sponsors thru the yamaha channels that could be considered a form of blackmail that forced him to rescind his claim.
EDIT: Brennan respecting his Sponsors request, was stand up, but for the Sponsor to drop him afterwards is cowardice and BS! That dealer needs to feel what it feels like to be betrayed, do not buy a damn thing from that dealer.
This is less of an interview & more of Michael doing as he does, loves to listen to himself talk. You are truly a lover of the sport & have great connections, but man c'mon, let someone speak their own words, every question you had was "Leading" and not in good form for an interviewer.
Brennan is getting a bad rap from this and should sue. Any man interrogating a child that is his childs competitor is not ok, never, without formers parents being present, punk move by Big B! Pushing around a child. Nice. Yamaha has lost a lifelong customer from this.
Not to mention any body else outside of racing would win a lawsuit like this. Lawyers would salivate about a case like this. Put people under oath and see what is.
This interviewer sucks obviously sounds like dealership was told holding off on pulling bikes because this would be a slam dunk lawsuit with pulling the bikes of the dealership claim to vital mx is true that they dodnt pull their bikes. This kid would've never said it unless it was true at the moment of dealership of it wasn't stayed by the dealership
He brought negative attention. Right or wrong he’s more risk than reward
@@Justahobbyoutdoors wrong. The moment Brennan said he was not pressured to back down he forfeited all opportunities
@@Justahobbyoutdoors i am prettt sure if there is a contract between Brennan and his sponsor there are outs for the sponsor if the person they are sponsoring does something detrimental to their business. Sponsors often drop their clients for things that are not illegal but bring bad press to their sponsors and their clients.
Prime examples are Kyle Larson and also a WoO driver who lost his ride and sponsors for cheating with a out of spec frame. Tyler Walker is another but what he was supposedly doing was illegal related to drug use. So guarantee the sponsor and their business are better protected than any client they may have. He gave them bad press to include claiming Yamaha strong armed his sponsors business which was a lie.
The claim was done correctly and fair. When the first conversation happened in any way other than yes or no as a response about the claim, money and politics won out. The Deegans fame and Star Yamaha and US Yamaha used their power to crush it. Shame on them. Riders is the B class with full factory bikes. It has always been this way but truly pathetic.
If nothing else comes out of this situation one thing is made as clear as it could be. The playing field is not level. The factory teams are in a position to compete on equipment that a large portion of families could not even have access to even if they had the money to . That's really a situation that needs to stop.
totally agree. it seems like they need tighter spec rules that keep the bikes a lot closer to stock
I agree..what about totally stock bikes on the playing field..
No mods no nothing.the ama should make a rule on a totally stock production bike that anyone can buy from the showroom floor.no modifacations no nothing.all race the mass produced bikes.be a whole diff world.
I agree....kid steppin up to grab that bike "followin the rules"he knew deegans were cheating..why would he try...yamaha blackmailed that kid.he should get a good lawyer
@@benbradshawjr2856 ya its like the one sport where you could do that because the stock bikes are so good. it would definitely be cool if they did that
What’s with questioning the kid so much.
He followed the rule and paid up, shouldn’t have been any questions asked. He could have stripped the motor and shared secrets with his engine builder, built his own engines to the same spec, sold it on or just kept it for himself. If it’s his bike he should be able to do what he wants with it...
Who is behind the claim also shouldn’t matter, this rule exists to keep amateur racing honest. The kid should have been able to claim the bike even if he was sponsored by another manufacturer
Know you just said what alot of people don't want too happen if star sold haidens bike that had some pro parts in it then Schofield will be the next cheater and it'll get out of control from their and loretta Lynn's will loose its popularity because everyone will be running cheater bikes in every single class
@@kylebeach2316 that's what happens when you bring unobtainium in 250B. Star Yamaha is at Fault and Also Brian Deegan of not knowing the rule.
Also the mobster way they dealt with Schofield is a Immediate investigation for sure.
@@kylebeach2316 it's already like that lmao nobody is running a stock bike there even in the stock classes
Actually can't make them to exact specs as that would break patent laws which I guarantee Yamaha has in place already. He could learn from them but to make a replica and then sell it as his engineering would land him in a huge law suit.
@@kylebeach2316 no one said the bike was illegal. He wasn't cheating they just had a 50,000 bike and the rule is there for that exact reason so it's too bad the big guy won out on this one. Brennan should be riding a star bike as we speak doing whatever he pleases with it. Too bad it happened how it did.
I’ve heard from multiple sources when Brennen, Derek & Brennens dad, went to Matt Walker’s Pitt & met with Donnie Luce he said two very interesting things;
*1.)* _”there’s technology in the motor we don’t want released to the public”_
*2.)* you won’t be able to service this motor…not even to he will _[points at motor builder Derek Harris]_
…what I’m hearing is the engine’s got something along the lines of Electronically-Controlled Valves which operate independently from a camshaft & require timing set up from a Laptop using specialized proprietary software (which would be totally unattainable for Brennen & Derek).
Beyond that, Moto 3 was a throw-away moto for Haiden, which, In my opinion makes it a good time to test the feasibility of a prototype system… & _Electronic Valve Control _ is technology which already exists, Honda’s _iVTEC_ system utilizes Electronic Valve Control, the advantage being that you could have Variable Valve Timing which could be continuously variable (with system’s like Honda’s Standard VTEC, you’re limited to a _REGULAR_ cam lobe half & a _VTEC_ cam lobe half…there’s no more, no less & nothing in between, so it would offer superior versatility in the valve timing department, & the camshaft would be a bare _dummy_ camshaft with no lobes (so lower rotating mass therefore greater acceleration).
The bad Press on Yamaha from this is going to be unrecoverable…the only way they can make this right is for Brennen to be on a _Monster Energy/Star Racing/Yamaha_ in 2023
lol, you need to earn a sponsor, and that kid ain't good enough
Where were all of the Deegan cameras when this went down? 😂
Lot of naïve people in these comments that have no comprehension of how the sport (or the world, for that matter) really works.
The little guy gets squeezed and the big guy gets away with it. Rules for thee, not for me. Maybe don’t put a $70k bike with proprietary technology in an amateur race…this is what ruins the sport at an amateur level.
Well said
Rules for thee and not for me! In a post COVID world this is DEAD ON brother!
💯
Too bad they can’t make a claim
anonymously directly wit the AMA especially if it’s a factory team. To protect the amateur riders from the powers that be
Why would you “claim” something anonymously youd be caught very quickly considering you have to use the bike..🤣
@@jennifersprague8585 so you can’t be bullied and threatened whilst the claim is ongoing, once the bike is yours then it’s not a problem.
That's a really good idea. The AMA should take that on board.
@@jennifersprague8585 you can have the bike taken to a shop or anywhere behind a curtain really an swap plastics and that's that. the rider does not have to ride the bike that same day or at said event. the rider can take it home and do what they want with it.
that makes no sense..sorry.
Matt walker, Brian deegan, TC, Yamaha are all guilty of punking a kid out of using an ama rule. Plain and simple. Totally disgusting
You can’t go through life thinking there are no consequences to your actions. He absolutely can claim the bike, but all the people that he depends on doesn’t have to like it.
You know why they did that too the kid?
LOL!!!! The kid shoulda just stayed in his lane. Yep...he can claim a bike. But good luck dealing with all the bs that goes along with it. Props... he now has no ride due to being dropped lmfao!!! Props to Brennan for that one. Lesson learned the hard way.
@@christoph9587 definitely one of the dumbest takes on this situation that I've seen. Congratulations on that I guess
@@michaelharold1366 they don't have to like it, but it's a fkn AMA rule so they have to sit there quietly and not like it while ama handles it. No reason for anyone to talk to Brennan after he claimed the bike other than ama officials, which neither walker, deegan, TC, or Yamaha are apart of. It's the facts jack.
Brennan should get a lawyer and sue the pants off of Yamaha for extortion. Threatening him and his sponsor the way they did is indeed extortion, perhaps even criminal extortion. Yamaha’s lawyers are probably very nervous and very concerned. What they did is the epitome of thuggery and the antithesis of professionalism. It’s a disgrace. Same with what Cotter did. Sue them all, Brennan! They surely deserve it. And the AMA should fine Yamaha and force them to give the bike to Brennan or be banned from racing for a year … like the rule book says.
Let’s face it, the whole thing is a complete cluster
Yes, it is. As we stated at the top of this video, when this many people get involved…stuff gets mixed up and can get miss-communicated, miss-understood or miss-handled very quickly.
Got to give you credit for the best reporting on this by far, your the first to talk to all the parties involved, seems like there has been a LOT of miss reporting on this as others have only been going on hearsay and one side only. Keep up the good work Micheal. 👍🏻
@@vitalmx You dont want the big manufacturers/Teams/Mx Sorts to black ball you because they can and will. Then you are Done! They rule the sport NOT the riders.
The only positive I can take from this mega cluster is that it does seem like the AMA tried to do all the right things & it’s obvious that Yamaha had a race bike at Loretta’s that they shouldn’t have been there & they were going to do anything necessary to keep that bike in their possession to include destroying a kids dream while putting hardships on a family when he did all the right things & followed all the rules.. it’s also very disappointing Brian Deegan didn’t do more to keep this poor kid from being ruined by Politics & Corporate Bureaucracy which is something I thought the Metal Mulisha was founded & stood for.. Travis Pastrana said it best, “Who’s The Real Sellout”.. I hope the Deegans use their Influence, Platform, & Connections to right this wrong & help make sure this kids name is restored & he gets a fair shot for a decent ride!! The Dealership that sponsored Brennan is a spineless little weasel. To go & threaten the kid to drop his Claim for the Bike than you go & drop his sponsorship after blackmailing him is such a Coward thing to do!! This is why less & less people are into motocross. The crazy expense it takes to be mid pack competitive, the politics, the corruption, the bullying of small teams, riders, & mechanics, etc.. it’s really become a rigged corporate shit show!! Seems to get worse every single year!!
AMA needs to step in and do something about Star making threats to his sponsor so he would drop it because they ended up dropping him anyway after he did it and if Brian was a big of a moto man as he says he would help this kid out you figure Brian would understand stand why this kid wants this bike he was the same way at his age
That kid had it out for Haiden. I just read a couple of messages he sent Haiden, this kid is nothing but a punk. This deal at Loretta's he had planned for awhile just to get at Haiden. I also think his mechanic was in on this just to get his hands on the bike. Yeah the rule is there but to begin with he had never read the rule book, until his dad told him about the rule and to read the rule book.
@@tomasvernia9350 thats all been disproven already mate. The messages were fake.
The "AMA" (Burkeen) screwed up big time by not keeping the claimer anonymous and letting Deegan confront him.
Brennan did it to himself.he was gonna put in the claim at Loretta it was a publicity stunt to get back at deegan.the kid said that yamaha was gonna pull the franchise and that could not and would not happen to much red tape to go thru on a multi franchise dealer.they sell bikes sleds side by sides and marine dealership of yamaha products.then he thru Matt walker under the bus and also by saying his motors keep blowing up throws his motor builder under the bus.and now the kid has a go fund me page.
I would like to see more bike claiming!!! Wouldn't that keep things in check!
You will see it in the next Loretta Lyn trust me..
drama fiend
more kids with bags full of money I say!!!
@@peaceprayer595 for sure 😂😂😂😂
I think more
People should be using this rule to
Their advantage. For many reasons. One it would really level the playing field and force these guys to be better riders. Two Over time if enough people claim bikes it would eventually bring the costs down
On bike and aftermarket oarts
MXJunkie I agree 👍🏼 and it's supposed to be amateur racing, there should only be Limited D, C, B & A classes no Mod classes, that way it would be about the talent and determination of the rider not the pocketbook of the parents. 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
@@rico8089 facts
MX screwed the pouch and so did Yamaha. Our world is in a spinning out of control ...lack of truth and honesty...we need to be able to call each other out. This is more of the same of the big guy stepping on the little guy...if you have power your right...thats soooo du cked up.....
Might is right. Rules for thee not for me.
Yup we the people with money don’t agree with you therefore you will be canceled. Bunch of bs…
How the world goes around unfortunately, that's why they thought they could (and to this point have succeeded) get away with intimidating and stopping the bike claim to Brennan.
Would you rather have a star bike that you can’t ride? Or a Yamaha support deal to carry you through the rest of your career 🤔. Pretty tough decision to put your kid through… I know my parents would have chosen the Yamaha deal over the bike any day!
@@jpslayermayor9293 The kid is a very mature and well spoken, really impressed.
There is a reason they didn’t want it claimed. The reason is because they were running stuff that this rule was intended to prevent them from running.
Kawasaki, Honda, Gas Gas, KTM etc. all do the same shit...
they are protecting their investment in technology...
in the end Yamaha probably told the kid to fuck off...
the kid fucked off...
More than likely. If not, they could of followed the rule, went home with $17k and built another one.
That's why brain deegan said the kid was trying to defame his family. How is buying a bike defaming.. ITS BECAUSE THEY WERE CHEATING... Pastrana said this years ago about Brian
Or they did not want industrial espionage!! Yamahas engine is the best out there and all the other factory engine builders would love to breack it down and see whats inside there and use it on there engines!!
You think it’s that easy? All the hours of seat time and tuning put in being comfortable on the bike would be gone . Just cause you build a new bike with the same parts doesn’t make it the same bike . It’s a solid way to set someone back months /make them less competitive … looks like a hatred towards someone and anyway to set them back … smh sad times for all
According to the rules the kid dropped the $$$, the talking should have stopped then. His money and the rule book should be all the talking that was needed. If there was nothing to hide then Star and Yamaha would have just let it go in accordance with the cash and the rules. I would carry that $17,000 to every track for the rest of my career just to keep them honest.
No shit, I'm glad everyone knows this is an option too..
Can only claim a bike at Loretta’s not every or any amateur race.
@@MrMcGuck exactly ..this was big oversight on Yamaha part but as we just listened engine builder called week in advance asking how this works so he lied he knew well before the race what was gonna happen when he acted like he found out night before ..that lie didn't age well...then Brennan social media post legit talking shit about hayden leading up to this ...no wonder why Brian asked why are you doing this..... Deegans aren't to blame ...the engine builder and Brennan were in on it but hey its a rule ....but this was very well planned and backfired..we all know next year theirs gonna be lots claims at Loretta now lol
@@MrMcGuck dude! What in the world is it with you on every single post, spewing this ignorance? It is literally, every single AMA sanctioned race. As a matter of fact, the price is less for smaller races. 2x is the high water mark and it is only at Lorettas.
@@rickybecklund2488 exactly this was planned in advance
The bike was up for claim Schofield claimed it and then all the shit and bullying and intimidation started don't want it claimed don't race factory bike in amateurs that's why the rule is there for
Im so beyond lost. What is meant by "claim", he claimed a bike to use? Like he wanted to buy a new bike on the spot at the biggest race of the year that he has never ridden before just guessing that he'd be able to ride it well, and that bike was actually Keegan's bike provided to Keegan by Yamaha? Is that basically what happened? Since when was this ever a thing??
@@justf12 The claim rule has been around for decades
👍End of story
@@xafbxmoto269 That seems so crazy, I never knew this was a thing. So why dont people just constantly claim other top ameaturs bikes all the time? Im assuming its looked very down upon? If it was my bike, id be like is this a joke…. my bikes not for sale on craigslist…lol!
@@justf12 Well it's not their bike it's star Yamahas. Usually it doesn't happen because they're just as worried about getting their bikes claimed. Smaller guys like Brennan don't have 20-30-40-50k builds so he would probably be hyped if someone claimed his bike.
This leaves such a sour taste in my mouth, the kid lost his bikes even after he pulled the claim. if you can't see that people are doing things behind the scenes to mess with Brennan because of this claim open your eyes. No one should have been allowed to make contact with Brennan after he made the claim he was clearly pressured into pulling the claim. if you don't want your bike to be claimed don't bring a 40 thousand dollar bike to an amateur race. Haiden is clearly the real deal and will have a very long professional career and I am a huge fan and avid watcher of the Deegan family. with that being said I feel like this was handled very incorrectly and Tim Cotter should be no where near a rider after a claim. him claiming "oh I thought he was 18" see how well that holds up in court (not saying this is going to court). At the end of the day the kid is going to America as a Canadian rider following the rules and trying to compete the best he can. the rule shouldn't be a rule if you are not allowed to exercise that rule.
More like $100k bike
Tim Cotter is an AMA referee.
@@NeoMK no he isn’t
Cotter is not a referee
It just shows you how fake the deegans truly are. If they were real people,they would have had NO PROBLEM. they have MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO WASTE ON BIKES. THIS KID HAS NO BIKES NOW BECAUSE OF STAR YAMAHA.
#thebullydeegans
Should bring Matt Walker on to see if he is down to really fight someone who paid him?
Matt isn’t scared to fight man lol I seen Matt fight a drunk fan at washougal max in 03. Matt can scrap
@@evanburke4269 he should be so proud
@@evanburke4269 fighting a drunk man something to brag about 🤣
@@evanburke4269 must be such a highlight! Even more professional than I could imagine🙄🙄
yeah, the second he started verbally attacking the father and made threats, i would have set their entire rig on fire and knocked matts little ass clean out if that was my dad.
He claimed the bike, he should own the bike. Star racing messed up and do anything they could to prevent the claim from happening.
Absolutely right!
any proof of this claim...?
I'm guessing not... am I right
@@traveler142 obviously haven't listened to the hrs of evidence
@@traveler142 so cotter, deegan, donnie, matt and the sponsor trying to change brennans decision isnt trying to "prevent" the claim?? What more proof do you need? They themselves admit this
Get factory teams out of amateur racing for good. This is pay to play at this point.
Exactly !!
Then what would be the point too even go too lorettas then 🤔 alot of kids go too loretta Lynn's because they want too get into a factory team and get a factory ride. Take that out and boom loretta Lynn's will not be as popular because it won't be worth the trip and money.
@@adamheichel7066 This.
And thats what the kid was doing haha he sucked so he needed to buy a bike and still would have sucked
@@kylebeach2316 read the comment again 🤦♂️ how on earth did you read the comment, process it then write something completely different?
Kids race at Loretta’s to get onto a factory team. Not to race against a factory team. There’s a difference…
What in the hell made this guy think that it was the right thing to do to bring that kid into a room alone for 20 minutes without waiting for his father or requesting his father sit
More importantly with his father being there and knowing what he was doing why didnt he go with him in the first place?
@@PainterFRO I don't know but if Brian and Mat did that to my son I would of choked them both in the middle of the pits.
The story appears to have been 3 to 5 minutes
The first interaction wasn't with ama it was with cotter and deegan
@@denniswilder3014 He clearly said he went to the AMA trailer and filed the claim first.
Deegan does not own the Bike, so only the owner should have had any chance to talk to the Kid. The AMA should learn from this the new procedure for a claim. Claimant files in the AMA Office and all business including the handover occurs under their watch. Boom-no more B.S. and intimidation so the AMA's own RULE is enforced.
Nobody except the person filing the claim and the AMA reps, whose job it is to impound the bike and deliver it to the claimaint, should have been involved, period.
If a bike is claimed, the AMA should do their job as the middleman and insure the bike is delivered as it should be. The claimant shouldn't even be named and nobody should be permitted to speak to them to try and dissuade them or anything else.
Or just earn a factory ride if you really want to ride one
@@evanburke4269
Or you know don’t bring factory shit to a “Amateur” race.
@@evanburke4269It’s not about earning a factory ride , it’s Amateur racing , isn’t supposed to even be a factory bike racing . The AMA has a rule in place to avoid all this nonsense . The kid claimed the bike by the rules. Star and Yamaha did what they wanted with no regard for the rules of Amateur racing . Kid did nothing wrong .
Why is the promoter guy calling himself an official
How is it that I have never been to or raced at LL and know more about the claiming rule than Brian Deegan and Tim Cotter?
I've raced at LL when you could win as an amateur. That's long gone these days.
Brian Deegan has threaded to claim bikes in the past so he knows the rule. He’s just stupid.
Question, "Are you going to de-fame my family" i dont usually see innocent people who suspect nothing of them or the team saying that..
Exactly
I heard the kids had beef in the past and considering he told race officials "I want to make a CZcams video" it seems like a reasonable question
Makes you wonder how fragile and ‘real’ there fame is in the first place. Seems like an easy egg to crack.
Exactly! This is all that I needed to hear. Brian is a known cheater, so this isn’t surprising
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 having my bike start a huge PR project I would have let them claim it.. shows good character.. but instead we normalize this entire debacle that it's okay that this kid has no ride for following a rule.. he was essentially bullied out of the rule book it really doesn't help the sport or the big money image it's been portraying the last two decades..
preparing the youth for their future..the big guys screw the little guys..get used to it
Yep
Damn straight bro.
Personally I think they had something in that bike that they didn't want out
Yamaha isn't getting enough heat about this.
Or Matt Walker.
1) don’t listen to Cooksey
2) Yamaha should have been upset they have every right to be some kid they support went after their top guys and their top bike. If you are a mediocre nobody at any profession or company you do not come out of no where and attack the top earner for that company or profession when you contribute almost nothing. Yamaha absolutely should have told him they will pull his support for this they have a lot invested in Deegan and those bikes no one should blame them for that. They expect return on investment Deegan brings more to the table than this nobody ever will. Life is not equal life is not fair this participation trophy generation needs to learn that.
@Jon Ruger
Rules are the rules if Yamaha and star didn’t bring a big $ factory bike to an amateur race this would have been a nothing burger. To many things not adding up.
@@gwagenadventure727 oh shut up the top amateurs have done this since the 80s it’s nothing new people need to stop pretending this sport is for people on a budget. It’s not and never has been if you are a good amateur you will get support if you don’t maybe try another sport don’t cry about it.
@@gwagenadventure727 he disrespected his main sponsor if I was them I’d pull all his support. How would you feel if you helped someone out not to have them turn around and try to steal from you?
@@jonruger
It's a lot to unpack but check out all the interviews to really unravel this story.
Intro 00:00 - 06:17
Brennan Schofield 06:18 - 44:09
Tim Cotter (MX Sports) 44:10 - 1:20:00
Mike Burkeen (AMA) 1:20:01 - 2:04:49
Brian Deegan 2:04:50 - 2:08:36
Of course Brian was too gutless to give an interview. He gives a short, dishonest statement, tucks his tail and runs. He is the epitome of a narcissist and just a cashed up bogan.
Tim Cotter is definitely not telling the truth
Tim Cotton should resign/be fired from MX SPORTS Immediately!
Whoever the Yamaha guy is needs to be fired immediately!
Brennan should be provided with bikes and support from Yamaha as long as he desires to ride and absolutely be given Haiden’s bike with a sealed engine that will be maintained by Yamaha in-house!
@Vitalmx, I have a question.
Tim Cotter conversed with Derek and Derek was quite vocal and firm. Why would Derek need to be so argumentative if Tim Cotter was helpful? Tim Cotter glosses over this.
23:38
I think the AMA needed to step up and tell parties involved to take a hike! Brennan claimed goes back to his trailer and AMA should have told everyone else go away it’s none of your businesss including Haiden and Brian it’s not their business it’s not their bike!!!
MX sports has no business this is an AMA deal alone!!!
If Mx sports wanted to prohibit or get involved they need to be threatened they won’t promote an ama race again!
AMA needed to throw their weight around if they running AMA rules they wear the pants!
right! it's not the deegans bike, they literally have nothing to do with it besides haiden riding it.
Haiden still had a race 4 a championship in morning can't just take his bike.
haiden wasn’t involved
@@shawnshaulis601 that was all set up did you not listen to the interview? The bike would be sealed and handed over to Brennan after haidens moto. It was legal and they fvcked him
@@jordanemede unwritten rule don't claim other people's bikes! That's why nobody new protocol, because u just don't do it. Plus on a mental note how does that not distract you or piss you off before the biggest race of your life. Spent months on setup!!
Rich people will always come out on top, it's the way they designed the system.
I have a Question: Per Mike Burkeen interview 1:31:45 why did Tim Cotter ask Brennan's engine builder to stay outside because he was not Brennan's Guardian, yet Tim Cotter says in his interview 53:20 he thought Brennan to be 18? Separating out Brennan's adult companion, was probably not the wisest choice, do you not agree?
Don't forget about Matt Walker threatening to beat the engine builder.
It's all so disgusting
Matt said the engine builder was loitering in his pit and wouldn't leave
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Brendan says THEY were invited to come in and sit down, and talk it out.
*Brennan
*Brennan
What a mature kid at 17. He's very well spoken.
"Not that I recall" what a legal reply
This rule is in place to keep amateurs kinda equal, it’s always been the family with the most money in winning, I’ve seen a lot of kids that were so fast they had no competition but money held them back or sometime even got out of racing because there family just couldn’t afford it anymore, they threatened this poor kid for doing this claim is unbelievable, I guess it’s all about money
Tim cotter says "I don't recall" a few too many times. I like that Michael Lindsay pressed him on Brennan wording when withdrawing the claim.
Thanks for the extra coverage....wish you would have told them the kid lost his bikes? that could have been a good way to see the reaction...body language wise....as their stories seemed to be all the same ( AMA/MX SPORTS / BRIAN DEEGAN )... as to how long he was alone in the office... they have had time to get that worked out.... the 2 guys looked nervous talking about this...
Thanks Michael. You're the only one who has the facts straight on this epic drama obviously created by Star and Yamaha representatives.
Get Brendan a new sponsor deal!
Can I just give the journalist who did all these interviews a big Bravo. Dude you handled this whole thing very professionally. It’s clear you take your job as a Journalist seriously. Thank you.
Should’ve been no discussion nothing. Schofield worked for his money, and paid it. End of story. Brian, star everyone else talking to the kid had no rights. AMA makes rules that they themselves didn’t follow. If star didn’t wanna lose their bike then they shouldn’t have had a factory bike on the line 🤷🏽 rules are rules and the fact they went in on a SEVENTEEN year old is comical.
I figure if I comment here maybe it will reach out... Amateur motocross should be about the best product manufacturers can provide to amateur racing without any modifications other than suspension valving to fine tune for the rider. Take karting for example, Louis Hamilton raced with a locked stock motor like every one else. Talent and hard work is what drove him to success. That principle should be applied to motocross. This allows for equal racing throughout amateur levels. Money is almost out of the equation. Talent and work ethic would be the ultimate differentiator between racers.
Bruhhh! The screenshot at the end got me so weak. Someone really screenshot this kids snap story and sent it to Brian who had them saved.. lmaoo wonder if it was extra motivation. Entertaining as it gets. Legendary story in motocross. Best of luck to both racers!
the other one wont get anywhere if hes that insecure on others
@@racingwrld trash talk happens in every sport
@@motowrld purposely crashing into someone is not trashtalk, he hated haiden and he couldve went straight went he went wide but he obviously went for haiden and crashed into him, brennan has nothing to lose, haiden has, and brennan knows that, i feel like brennan is like a little psychotic, hes not normal.
@@racingwrld what😂 it’s a kid mad🤷🏼♂️ I’ve seen Haiden at world minis in 2015 kick the crap out his bike and storm off cause it blew up
Said to Brian "as long as you're professional"
Brian then says "I want to ask them why".
At that point he should have been told no you can't talk to him then Brian. That's not a legitimate question under this rule
100% the fact that they put him in a room with Brennan is a disgrace
Doesn’t matter too much but you should see Brennans comments made towards haiden during races before Loretta’s
Really? Anyone can ask anyone why they want to do something. Does not mean the person must respond.
@@Shawn-ts4jw being put into a room with a minor without his parents there to intimidate him? That’s not just asking him a question that’s bullying . Brian doesn’t own that bike , even if he did the kids was within the rules , paid the money . He shouldn’t have anything to do with it and definitely should be allowed to confront the kid in a formal setting .
@@wyatt5712 you’re right , it doesn’t matter
Brennan said himself that he doesn't know if his bike sponsor / yamaha dealer was threatened by Yamaha, it was assumed by Cooksey Media, by Brennan himself. So many parts of this mess are mostly assumed.
Your not go say this when your sponsorship is on the line. trust that.
If the dealer weren't threatened, they wouldn't have called Schofield.
@@obiron2099 sure they would have, it was casting a negative shadow on the dealership and they wanted nothing to do with it.
Chris the dealership’s owner released a statement that at no point did anyone from Yamaha Motorcycle Corporation contact them regarding the issue.
I was busy all week last week to last night with my sons' Canadian version of Loretta's (Walton Transcan). Had limited internet at our pits and just got caught up with all this claiming fiasco. Just when I thought I knew a lot about Motocross, I actually don't. I had no clue what claiming a bike was. Incredible interviews and depth on the topic of unobtanium. Crazy part was that Schofield was gonna being Deegan's bike to race Walton where my kids were racing!
He should have! It was his right! He was bullied out of a legal claim because deegans have pull
Cotter is lying he should not have been involved at all, he should be fired now.
he is a glorified used car salesman
Vital MX. Props to ya bro on interview about bike claim on #38. Awesome , professional,,to the point interview. Kick ass job. I never knew about this rule and I was educated . Keep up good work. Braaaaap brap
Thanx Vital...Did Dangerboy Ride the same bike at Unadilla Pro-am? Where can we see the Results from that Race?
Wtf is the point of this rule if this is what happens when implemented? This is the exact situation a bike claim makes sense. If it was a nobody's bike he would own it. But it's haidens bike which is most likely out of anyone's bike, illegal. This is nuts
The point of the rule is to keep amateur racing on level playing field. It's to discourage showing up with a $40k bike to race.
@@JW-jh7zv the pros bikes are closer to 100k bro. 40k is a cheap ride no matter what they tell you
if Haiden doesn't have a butt patch that says "CLAIM THIS" for his pro debut I'm going to be so disappointed
That is funny af but Hayden will just be another Reed at best chasing the fast guys aka Carmichael and Stewart
@@ricksmith7659 😂😂😂 Cope little guy
@@davinlaiacoma9566 nah hes got a point no amateur is hopping into the pro class this season or next with a shot of leading motos he will be top 10-5 and probs podium or win a couple motos until he can really dig his boots in, 250 class is gnarly remember he will be out there battling the lawrences.
@@KgiMedia601 that’d be a fair point if haiden hasn’t already made a name for himself and won against all the other peers 😂
Excellent interviews.
Bottom line, Yamaha got caught. AMA handled this poorly. I was an AMA official years ago at our local dirt track. Had to make decisions, knowing, I had to be consistent, because decisions would set presidents. Cursed at, flipped off and approached by other people for favoritism. When I left, riders saw me at a restaurant and stated that they respected me as an official because I was consistent. The MX promoter shouldn’t be in the picture. AMA just set presidents, Yamaha most likely threatened AMA, dealership and told them to clean this up.
Bottom line... the Engine Builder got caught attempting to claim a bike using Brennen to do it.
Facts do matter
@@traveler142 except thats not what happened so yep your right facts do matter
@@dahigiman4199 this hasn't been proven yet either way,,, it can be though all Brennan has to do is bring up his record of his money.....wages etc because it's been stated by multiple accounts that his father was not paying for it and didn't have the money to keep fixing the broken engines.....
@@dahigiman4199 also the story's from Brennan and engine builder about when and who came up with idea are both completely different....
@@traveler142 What difference does that make lol. Don't bring tech you can't bear losing to an amateur race.
There’s gonna be some fast motor swapping after the races now 😂
👻 According to the legend, some say that the restless soul of Matt Walker still roams the pits of Loretta's to this very day... 👻
Brennens dad should’ve put Walker to sleep for talking to his son the way he did
Great Job on interviews!
fantastic interview
@hpracedevolpment Doesn’t paint you in a good light tho……e.g calling the AMA official to clarify the claim rule a week prior, and claiming in the cooksley media interview that you didn’t really know the Schofields personally yet you got pretty involved…..can you see how the optics look?
Right and your running AMA rules this is a n AMA race the promoter pays AMA to use their rules! So at the point of AMA claim the promoter gets lost unless he is helping.
This guy was pressuring and that’s unacceptable and AMA should issue penalty to this guy and Yamaha and anyone whoStrong armed this kid
Listen to all the interviews.
Look I don’t believe this guy that the engine builder was being belligerent. Look the engine builder as the adult being there during the claim was trying to protect the transaction from being tainted. In other words the engine builder wasn’t acting that way unprovoked! I’ve heard his interview also. And Brennan’s there was indeed pressure coming and as promoter he should have never even allowed a meeting with Brian and Brennan I believe he didn’t realize he was 17 but facilitating that meeting was uncalled for if Brian want to talk to the person go do it but this guy being involved was uncalled for with that meeting!
@@terryfonz4603 and you know all this because you were there. 🤣
No talking is needed. Claim was made.. it should have been honored not talked over.
@zoner 🤡 they all admit it I don’t have to be there everyone of their interviews admitted that!
The point is a meeting between the claimant and the sponsored riders father is not part of a claim! Especially since it is not their bike!
Someone needs to get this kid a bike now. Shame on Yamaha for trying to make this go away. That bike should be his..
Good to see that even after this 3 part yamaha love fest the story followers still see who the bullies are and the poor kid being muscled
He forgot to mention, as he did in the other video that Hayden and his buddies followed him back to his camper from the AMA building, and hung around his camper in an intimidating way.
Have you not seen the post that Brennan had made talking shit to Haiden, leading up to Lorettas?? Id have done the same thing as Haiden.
@@lit549 athletes talk shit to each other all of the time. They then usually battle in their respective sport and that’s it or it carry’s on to the next event. They don’t then go on to wait by a team bus to intimidate or follow them to their hotel room and stand glaring in the hallways. Your point is irrelevant anyways because it was after Schofield made the claim so he was trying to find out who he was and intimidate. He’s probably the one who reported who the sponsor was which is ultimately what got them their way.
@@superdirty6331 ahhh, so you have no problem with some random kid making this "claim", after its proven that he was just a butthurt kid thats jealous of Haiden?? Seems rational..and also, do talk shit if you cant deal with the consequences!
Your telling me a 16 year old kid was scaring someone? What soft fucking planet do you live on
@@superdirty6331 there's a point where talking shit gets taken to far respectfully from what brennan said to haiden if that was me i woulda fucked him up you can talk shit but to a certain extent
Hypothetically if a young Brian Deegan claimed a young Pastrana bike back in the day it wouldn't take long to figure who would be taking home the bike....crazy how far the other side he is (not saying it's bad)
Great point
Deegan has threated to claim bikes before. Has protested other kids, and has been caught cheating with haidens 65s. He has no room to talk
Correction, it was haidens 50s. He was running 63cc. Haiden was DQd in both classes
""" The events that transpired after the teardown is simply amazing. After the protest was over, Mr Deegan's mechanic and some of his crew came to our pits and threatened me and my family. I was then personally attacked on social media. This is unfortunate results of a legal process. I have great respect for the sports and 99% of the people in it are here for the right reason. It is unfortunate, a family with this kind of influence in the motocross world handles things in this fashion. """
That is for a 50cc protest. Imagine how they handled the 250B star bike claim ?
Why would a promoter be an officiating as well?
This is the reason we don’t trust politics and politicians. They don’t follow the rules they set. This is a big loss for our sport. If the rules were followed without putting any pressure on this kid, he would never have given up the claim. Like it or not, those are the rules, and now the moto world is losing faith in what otherwise always seemed legit on the surface. I think the way this was handled just opened a can of worms.
Why for any reason on earth was ANY representative from MXSports, a sponsor organizer, assuming authority talking to this minor alone and asking why they wanted or not to proceed with action? The article in racerX seemed like such a coverup based on the wording and now this confirms this .
Yamaha got caught red handed by what they admitted to? Wow! Fans want to see racers be part of the event that is about the racers and when sponsors control things, threaten the riders, maybe fans should rise up and send a message to those sponsors; don’t buy their products.
IF there was an addition to this rule, that if a sponsor directly conflicts, threatens the individual making the claim, demands reasons for why they want the bike, that sponsor is banned from the event for 2 years, would those representing Yamaha responded this way?
Will people, fans, riders, view this as cheating, even if it was not challenged or the bike was opened up? Hard to know. Was Yamaha acting unfairly? Financially, absolutely yes. Not being fair sometimes gets viewed as cheating. Thus why the rule exits. Clearly it is unfair to bring an expensive bike that is way out of the budget of the majority of riders and Yamaha fighting for this bike, with MXsports defending them, just tarnishes the event.
One thing to remember is that fans are the money and can be the power send a message they support riders over sponsors. Fans have the power to cripple the sponsors and help racers that challenge sponsor corruption .
It seems as though a good attorney would destroy Tim Cotter, IF you study body language (bobbing of the head, arms folded - usually indicates hiding information as in protection of the heart/chest, repetition, possessive juncture in speech) he clearly was acting on behalf of MXsports and sponsor interests not the athletes. He claims “ownership” as authorities as “ours” when it was the AMA. It is very clear from watching his reactions, tone of voice he is on the defense for questions not requiring defense. The reason “why, “ should NEVER have been asked by MXsports or Tim Cotter. MXsports is sitting now as an open can of worms responsible for this mess when you listen to him.
They did NOT cheat. Everyone but the dje hard Deegan haters understand this. There were 41 riders that could have protested the legality of the bike. This is NOT about illegal parts on a bike. This is about Star putting an expensive well developed bike in a claim race... period. I think all you Deegan haters need to train more and stop assuming anyone beating you is cheating. There is far more cheating going on in the midfield of all motorsports than there is up front. Always has been always will be.
And he’s on here calling himself an official
The truth is the bike is legal and Star did not cheat. Star has vendors making legal spec engine parts for them that do have some vendor markings on them inside the engine that the other Teams do not know about and that is Stars secret that they do not want to expose. The engine is legal and is not a pro motor at all including the ECU.
@@mudpro200 I'm just raising the question if it will be viewed as cheating. All teams have done this. Yamaha was not challenged for cheating. However, they were not representing fairness by bringing a bike at this level. Not being fair, commonly gets viewed as cheating. IF they just gave up the bike, as they knew the risks, none of this would have blown up to this level. Challenging the sponsor corruption, is also legal, and standing up for riders rights is why the rule exists. It is pretty clear who the bad guys are , just listening to them in their own words.
@@hawkgeoff I'm just raising the question if it will be viewed as cheating, not making that claim. All teams have done this. Yamaha was not challenged for cheating. However, they were not representing fairness by bringing a bike at this level. Not being fair, commonly gets viewed, by some fans and racing families, as cheating. IF they just gave up the bike, as they knew the risks, none of this would have blown up to this level. Challenging the sponsor corruption, is also legal, and standing up for riders rights is why the rule exists. It is pretty clear who the bad guys are , just listening to them in their own words.
No where did I make any judgement of view about the Deegen's. I think it is sad for the Deegan's and I feel bad about that. In fact, as a young talented rider, getting all the hype, that is very tough. He is not in control of his future, the sponsors are. Looking at Adam CianCiarillo, in a similar light, and he had very expensive bikes as well, where is he now? Where is his multi-time Ama super cross championships? crickets! Same with Alessi. All this fame and pressure can coming to a crash, when that rider always finishing behind you (like Cooper Webb) becomes the champion in the real AMA events. Was the talent drown in corporate greed and sponsorship, a syndicate that MXsports, and FELD survives on at the cost of peoples lives and futures? The Deegen's could fall into the same trap. However, when a kid challenges the sponsor control over riders, such as this Yamaha bike, it probably benefits the Deegen's rather than hurts them. Haiden has an impossible task of being the best, commanded a life by groups like MXsports and Yamaha, while loosing his life as a kid growing up in a normal life. His life is dictated by success and those controlling forces are companies like Yamaha. Their choices have ability to destroy his future far more than 1 rider standing up for fairness for all riders. Yamaha's actions and MXsports actions hurt the Deegen's because they thrust them into this mess when it was not their fault.
Mike Burkeen should have never let Brian talk to that kid. They know better
Brendan should have kept the star bike because from what I heard dealership took his Yamahas away sad to hear Yamaha would do that
Is this in a podcast format I can listen t to or is it CZcams only
Thanks ML. Great job
I can't believe this story has blown up this much. I also can't believe people are blowing up Brennan, the Deegans, AMA, or Tim Cotter. From what is coming out it seems they didn't do anything wrong (of course it's easy to look back and pick apart little things, but overall they all handled the situation well considering the circumstances).
To me it seems the most questionable events occurred with Matt Walker and the motor builder. Sounds like they were both too aggressive at different points in the event which neither of them should have been involved with. Obviously if Yamaha threatened a dealer license that's a big deal, but we'll probably never hear if that actually happened or not. Also interesting is the social media posts shown in this video from Brennan... it does appear he may have had some more underlying motivation than what he has lead on. Definitely doesn't make his claim of the bike wrong or invalid, just a bit more interesting haha.
Burkeen (AMA) screwed up the worst by not keeping Brennan anonymous, and letting Deegan confront him
I don't see why people are mad at Brian he did what any father would have done and that's talk to the kid that's taking his sons bike. star clearly didn't want that bike out there but there's nothing they can do about it. its pretty clear that Brenan's sponsor made him pull the claim and then dropped his sponsorship with him after the fact. the only bad guy i see is Brenan's ex sponsor . as for Brenan yeah the rule is there for a reason but that doesn't make it right or wont give you a black eye when it comes to sponsor ships and people wanting to work with you, it goes both ways
It’s not he’s sons bike, end of story. Change the rules if you don’t want this to happen.
@@travisgrain8067 cool story
This whole thing is a cluster, but there is a past at which Brennan isn’t speaking on. How he already was calling Haiden a “pussy ass mf” and “danger girl” at south wick because of the line he took. He handled this situation to a t and shouldn’t have took back his claim, BUT he didn’t do it for a CZcams video, he did it because he simply doesn’t like Haiden because in all honesty, Haiden is better than him. It’s a sticky situation, but doing it just because you don’t like someone, kinda weird.
So the engine builder claims he only found out at lorettas from Brennan but had talked to this ama guy a week before about how to claim a bike?
I thought the same thing. If you watch cookseys new video with Derricks interview he paints himself as a saint but these interviews point a lot of fingers at the “engine builder” doing all of the bidding for Brennan. Him calling a week before if sketchy as hell.
@@KP-lf9db I know he told his dad at freestone and his dad said if you want to do it you come up with the money. But the other interview with the engine builder I got the idea he only found out at lorettas because he was in shock but now he had called this guy a week earlier about claiming
That man just admitted he tried cheating and getting counter claims together for the cobra 50. His son rides for Yamaha, dude there’s so much fishy crap with this whole situation
I'm sure this will work out perfectly for the big guys.... if all the bad happened would you tell us? We shall see
It all sounds like something from a Godfather movie
Didn’t the kid say in other interview per rule book that if they swap motors he would get the motor in bike when claim was made and he would also get the motor they swapped in for last moto.
Do they have to give up the ECU password with the claim?
There is no doubt Brian,Yamaha and the promoter, all tried to pull a weak attempt at a mafia tactic on a minor. Only goes to show they are weak minded low class individuals without scruples. But hey what do you expect, most of these probably did even finish highschool. It is what it is.
Did you not listen to this whole podcast? Deegan clearly has nothing to do with this. If so he would’ve been outed by now.
@@allannelson10 he doesn't want facts, he wants to hate, that's important to him for his own self worth
You clearly came straight to the comments and didn’t listen to this at all.
Yea but I agree Brian didn’t really do anything wrong but Star and some of the others in this should have something done to them by AMA when they where threatening his sponsor and then his sponsor pulled his bikes anyway after he dropped it is a load of crap kid got screwed
@@josephmiller8005 they didn’t actually threaten his sponsor .
“Hey I’m the guy you spoke with on the phone” - Derek. Wtf.
Holy cow. The engine builder called about claiming a bike the week before ? And what about the business check in the bank bag? Engine builder also said he went to Brennan after the moto and told him hey you gotta go do the bike claim. And what about the kid who called in pulp and said Brennan tried to say sorry and told them it wasn’t his money .
doesn`t matter
Doesn't matter who put the money up, could've been pro circuit, husqvarna, the engine builder. It doesn't matter. If you don't want a 50,000 dollar bike with secret modification claimed don't bring it. Its a fuckin rule for a reason.
What is the name of the dealership that dropped Brennan?
And location?
Excellent job coordinating these interviews.
I watched this video with a friend of mine and we had just a few questions on the matter. If we could ask Tim Cotter a few questions, these would be them.
#1. It seems that you continually spoke in hypothetical terms while referring to the claiming rule. How many times have you personally been an intricate part of the claiming rule and how many times. Second part of this question… Do people that claim bikes typically know how many races, classes the bike is registered to participate in that day, weekend, etc.?
#2. After all the interactions you had with Derek, how is it possible you can’t remember his name? It would seem elementary to retain this information, especially because I’d assume there has been a lot of “water cooler talk” about this, post situation.
#3. Not knowing whose name was on the check, not knowing the rule book, simply forgetting key details, so many red flags. Moving forward, do you feel business ethics and processes need to be reviewed?
I’m sorry, but my friend that watched this with me has been a phycologist for over 15 years now…. He seems to think Tim is not being fully inclusive or transparent. Just his humble opinion from a grainy YT video.
So the Engine builder lied from the start, he clearly talked to the AMA the week before about the claim rule, he said the first time he heard about the claim was right before the kid claimed the bike, and now the kid says he lost his bikes/main sponsor, and his parents are going to try and get him a bike soon, SO WHO'S $17GRAND was it? Thats enough to get him a bike! it's sounding more and more like the engine builder was behind this, sounds like he wanted the break that motor down and steal the spects! plus this Brennan kid clearly has issues with HD38 from the qualifier at the Wick, he called him danger girl in his post after that race/qualifier, he talked crap about him almost holeshotting him with a stock motor and HD38's motor is a $100grand, and how he gets everything given to him, HD38 passed him at the wick pretty aggressively and it pissed him off, this whole thing is a cluster fzzk
the lies told by brennan and his engine builder have finally been caught, he also said he never really knew if his sponsor was threatened by star yamaha, he just assumed it 🤦🏻♀️ first he said to cooksey that brian was very respectful n chill and didnt threatened him or got angry, but days later he changed his story again 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
So, just so I’m clear, the motor builder contacted the AMA the week proceeding the race to confirm how to claim a bike and then did most of the speaking on the day. Why is anyone thinking this was initiated by the kid.
Because they only listen to the kids part of the video
Yeah man.. no-one decides on the day to enact some obscure rule.. or carries that amount of cash in case they decide to claim a bike.. get real..
If you were the one behind the claim, would you let the kid go into the office without you and possibly mishandle the claim?
@@venturini09 yes but like both the motor guy and the AMA offical said. He wasn’t family and was told to leave. He had no choice but to leave it to the kid. I find it even more suspicious that the motor guy went and not the parent.
This feels like a Johnny Depp cross examination 👩⚖️
Is the unamed sponsor of this kid shown on the gas tank sticker during his interview?
I can't see anyone trying this again. I don't care if they did cheat where the heck was this kids dad?
His dad was getting everything ready to leave because they had to get to Canada for another race
It does not matter where his dad was. The kid clearly knew what he wanted to do as far as claiming the bike.
But he had to cave to his un named sponsor to end the claim.
Funny he didnt mention making a you tube video but the other guys brought it up.
If AMA doesn’t do anything about this they are enabling this behavior. They need to take action on the bullies. Proof power is everything. Not everyone has the luck of being born to greatness or born knowing people. This kid just has a dream to ride a factory bike. Ends up being it was an unobtanium 😂
No One was Bullied, that was a two faced Lie...
listen to Brennen's Trainer... it was the Engine Builder behind the claim and he went through Brennen and Deegan to attempt to get it...
knowledge is power... go get some.
I have been waiting to hear Tim Cotter's viewpoint and kudos to you to getting the people imvolved to speak on this. I feel for Tim for being villified for doing his job and following the rules as they are written.
Is Cotter an AMA official? 58 minutes into this video cotter says he’s an AMA official and put the bike in his trailer
Right I though I was the only one that heard that. So if it went in his trailer then I wouldn't want it either cuz he would of let Deegan and star bring a bike in late at night and Swap the parts.
Cotter sounds like he is trying to patronize the kid Brennan, which makes me think Cotter must have made a few mistakes with this whole situation.
Tim Cotter’s story does seem to be very simple and plain… Alot missing in his story, jumping around… eh
well he is brain dead...
I am so proud of you Michael, you got through that entire preview without creating any new words or mumbling
Can someone explain what happened, I’m so confused
The main question..
Who was the person or organization that approached Brennan’s sponsor? There’s no question that after this contact was made everything went south for Brennen, a swift and major reversal took place.
Tim Cotter, the AMA Official, and Brennan all tell the same story about this issue. I was especially drawn in when Tim Cotter said he got a knock on his door from Brennen’s sponsor saying this was a bad idea for him. Next thing you know Bremen is out of bikes to race.
100 percent. Someone or a group of people put Brennan's sponsor in a position where they had to choose between supporting Brennan or their own livelihood. That's the real wrongdoing in all of this that has not been uncovered.
i like how no1 is commenting on what brennan posted on his story cuz no1 cares when some noname does something wrong or says something bad
Thanks for getting the truth.
How was it in ama official possession if he had it ??? Does he think he is an official or
Right on