Bark River Bravo 1.25 vs CFK Cutlery 108 Choosing The Right Knife
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- Bark River Bravo 1.25 vs CFK Cutlery 108 Choosing The Right Knife
In this video my friend Jaime and I showcase the Bark River Bravo 1.25 and the CFK Cutlery 108 knives. Our focus is to introduce options to folks that may be looking for something different in their knives.
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Thank you Jaime & Jon for your service, and your shared archery & knife enthusiasms.
Side note -- CFK isn't made in Pakistan or Asia. They make them in the US and the UK. They are also hand made. They made a full on statement over it. Anyone that says otherwise is a fan of some other brand, or some other brand doesn't like the competition. Plus CFK will give you a life time warranty. I own one and love it.
I own three and really like them. This 108 is probably my favorite.
Good comparison review of the two knives guys. I looked at some of the CFK knives on Amazon and a lot of Bark River knives but as you put it, they are to much "sauce" for this old man. I like an 1'8" thick or less when it comes to my belt knives as I use them primarily for slicing and whittling. I ended up with an LT Wright Genesis in a saber grind - a perfect fit for my needs.
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Great job at sharing your knowledge, Jaime!
Thank you, Jodine.
Convex is absolutely my favorite grind. So much control with those.
Awesome video, love the guest! Very informative.
Thanks for watching Laura.
This channel is evolving. Very cool Jon. Just keep up what you’re doing.
We’re working hard to keep the content fresh. Thanks for watching.
Great video guys! Great companies and comparison brother!
Thanks, brother!
I have found that CFK knifes are indestructible monster work horses! Thank you for the tip on kydex and the hinged ferro rod!
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Jaime did a great job! I will be checking out the CFK knives. Again, a beautifully done vid.
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I like my CFK and it works until I find the right one to replace it. Thanks for sharing .
Thanks for stopping by Patrick.
Great vid John as always
Thanks Steve.
Outstanding vid !!!!!
Thx !!!
Thx brother.
BR convex grind is my favorite grind, but I don't understand the aversion in the bushcraft community to hollow grinds knives. Until five years ago all I used was hollow grinds (Buck 119 and 110) and still use them, doing whatever needs to be done with them. I have had no chipping or rolling of edges. I also have some old beaters with hollow grinds that haven't chipped. Thanks for bringing the CFK to my attention and for your ideas.
Try a hollow grind on a hard steal like s30v and watch the chips.
Great review! Thanks!
Thanks for the support Jason.
Thank you, Jason! And good luck with the relocation to Florida!
I’m a fan off a more kephart style knife myself, flat grind or thinner convex grind is what I prefer so I can do food prep. I Prefer smaller fixed blades under 3 inch for most work axe or large blade for the real heavy duty stuff.
Great great video!
Hey Jaime and Wingman! What's up brothers! Doug Wilson here from Yellow Hawk Customs Outdoors. Thank you for the shout out guys. One thing though. Although I am honored by the title, I technically do not refer to myself as a "Greeeeen Beret". My situation is a bit different. Anyway, I am glad to see someone else mentioning CFK. It is interesting that most youtube reviewers will not "go there". I say "bullcrap"! If a CFK blade is a viable option for someone, it cannot be discounted. Way to stand up.
Thanks for checking in brother.
Roger that, Doug! Regardless of that situation, your craftsmanship, work ethic, and personal integrity is still outstanding! Thank you, brother!
Have the 38 and 106 and both are 👍
There are so many knife choices in all price ranges. I have some I gave less than 10 bucks that I like very much. No matter the grind my edges end up wearing a thin, slightly convexed edge as I sharpen by hand. They are slicey and strong enough for my needs. Hollow grinds have a place and can be quite good... I have many. Take care.
Thanks for checking in my friend.
I have a few CFK knives shown on my channel.. Bladeforums created a big stink about them. So far they are good knives..
I have many CFK knives bought a couple year ago and I have been happy with most of them but there were a couple that arrived dull (1095 versions). I have a few of their hollow grinds but mostly bought their flat or saber grind knives, which are good. I wish they made more that were not 1/4" thick, I feel that is too thick for most of their smaller knives. As for my Bark River knives, I've yet to own one that I don't love. Thanks for the video.
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I've never really had to baton anything very much. I live in Pennsylvania in the Appalachian mountains and there is so many doe branches and smaller sticks that you don't even have to chop up very much wood ever.
Joe Thanks for watching.
The CFK39 and 38 models have convex flat grinds and are out top sellers on Anazon!
I do have one of your lager flat/convex grind type chopper blades! Love it!
Hollow gring makes the edge much weaker as apposed to convex geometry gives much more strength.
nice video to mix things up
Thanks Jim.
I like this guy. He is able to talk about his thoughts on both knives and show us how he works them, commenting that it's about the skill of the user and knowing your tool. He is right that you don't need high dollar to be effective. I wish more people would take this approach when discussing knives (especially CFK/IPAK). I see so many people nitpicking over cosmetic details and the mystery of manufacture when all we need is an honest review on how it feels and functions. I am seeing people saying that the CFK D2 is great, and other people saying its junk. I am thinking its probably somewhere in the "intended purpose" and "knowing the tool" gray area. Right now I am trying to determine a reasonable expectation for the CFK D2 Bowie I just bought. Its proving to be more difficult to get an accurate depiction of this steel than I thought it would be due to too many people coloring the reviews though a bias.
As with most things in life, it will be your personal experience that may determine what works best for you. As for CFK and their D2 steel, at the time of this message I currently own four of their knives (and one Damascus) and they all are great tools that have yet to let me down. Saying that, I've had high end knives fail and disappoint me for whatever reasons. So best of luck with your CFK Bowie. And since it's been two months from the time you sent your message, I hope you've already gotten some positive feedback from that knife.
@@jaimeleondelaparra3877 i gave the bowie to my brother and bought 2 more of their knives. I am very pleased with the knives and the brand/ company.
@@SavageHenry762 Good to hear! Thanks for the update!
Sharpen on a stone for convex. You will convex the blade even if you want to stay flat. The rocking motion and your body mechanics dictate that.
I got a cfk knife from a store that selled it, its a d2 one with bone and wood handle, i haven‘t tried it out yet but i saw on the internet that they got alot of hate and now i feel bad because i made the purchuse!!
Just try it out and see how it works for you. I've used knives that people rant and rave about only to find out that I just did not like them for whatever reason. On the flip side, I found myself loving knives others said weren't worth anything. Actually, I felt the same way about CFK due to all the haters on blogs. But time after time, CFK has never disappointed me. Truth be told, I probably do not like most of the designs CFK offers, but that's just personal preference. But their knife designs that I have liked, and purchased, they've never disappointed me. But that's just me experience.
Also hollow grinds inevitably batons better due to geometry. But in my opinion batoning isnt a main task for a 5inch. It needs to be able to brapton but controlled cutting is main task. Check out chosera stones.
There are different models of the BRK Bravo's..regular, drop point, or spear point blades, then there are the lt models, which are thinner. That being said, there are good lower cost knives out there as well. Bottom line is, match the knife you buy to both your budget, as well as the tasks you will be using it for. I am a huge fan of the convex, and BRK does them very well, and I have no problem sharpening them..a ceramic rod and a strop..no problem. I own several knives, of all price ranges, and they all work just fine..as you said..know your tool..and choose the right one for the job you are doing, and you will be just fine.
BTW, you mentioned you have bought used ones with chips..if you know how to fix them, great, but if not, send them in to BRK and they will fix it free. They back up their product no questions asked, regardless of where or who you get it from.Great customer service.
Tim Thanks for stopping by.
I have a few Bark River knives, and I'm currently VERY interested in them, and busy deciding which others to get. In all my research I came across a website which allowed you to select "regular, drop point, or spear point blades" on a particular model. NO OTHER WEBSITE offers this -- including the two websites that Bark River works with very closely: "KnivesShipFree.com" and "DLTTrading.com" Furthermore, Mike Stewart, who owns Bark River Knives has many videos on youtube, where he describes each model, etc., and he also never mentions anything about choices of blade types within a model. I can only conclude that the website that offers the different blades is somehow a FRAUD. Either they make their own knives and sell them as genuine Bark River knives, or else they just take people's money and you never hear from them again. I'd be interested in hearing different from anyone.
Hollow grind usually isnt rugged enough for THIS gorrilla torquing on it all the time, however the steel and thickness kind of deletes that weakness so that doesnt kill it for me..but then again its up against that bravo... you guys sure made this as hard of a choice as possible!
Just a few ole boys hanging out in the woods. Bows and knives.. Don't get any better than that.
NSW: Doing bad things to bad people since 1962. Interesting to see him choose polished micarta on that Bark River.
Remember he said in the video that he got a deal on eBay for this blade and the cutting edge had some nicks in it that he fixed.
I have had other Bark River Knives with other types of handles. But there is something about the simplicity and elegance of that polished black Micarta. And believe it or not, the grip gets tackier with a little bit of moisture, i.e. hand perspiration. At least that's been my experience. Now, if I was still an Operator with Special Boat Team 12, I'd still be rockin the Cold Steel SRK with that rubbery grip.
Jaime Leon de la Parra It’s all good bro. I agree! There is something alluring about the polished stuff. I guess it’s just that, given the choice, I’d take something grippier. But, as John said, beggars (or eBayers) can’t always be choosers! Been looking at that slightly bigger Bark River myself. I think that length you got there is ideal. Not quite in the survival knife realm, but a bit bigger than the perfunctory Bushcraft size.
That's exactly why I chose it. I wanted something in between those two realms. So with that five inch blade, that is a quarter inch thick (for weight and strength in chopping and batoning) but then goes into a hollow grind (for slicing and cutting ability) gives me a compromise that seems to work just right for my needs.
Say Heah John, Yeah, my Brovo 1 was my first B R, and still one of my Fav's, Back then when the earth was cooling, I was strictly a 3Knife guy, so I got a 4Knife set to pick and choose from. I got the Woodland Special, Bravo 1, Bravo 2 and the Golok. All in A2, with Ghost Green Jade G+10 ;handles. Then I got the Bravo 1 in 3V, and getting it in 3V, I had to get the Bravo 1.5, Awesome, Thanx John, Dilly Dilly.,,.p.
Thanks for commenting and watching Paul'ie!
I had the Bark River Ranch Hand and Bark River Vidarr, both in A2. Personally, I'll take A2 over CPM 3V just because I can get that A2 crazy sharp versus the 3V. But that's just my experience.
Jaime Leon de la Parra Hmmmm, I do like the B R, A2. But I like the edge retention of the 3V.,,.p
Wingman115 my Pleasure John, I really enjoy your channel.,,.p
Holy apples to oranges!
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Very well done great test between the two knives... I trust your judgement and have followed that.. Who makes CFK knives ? A larger mystery who makes Moorhaus knives ? I own knives that have D-2 steel blades and i like the steel always have ..There is a couple models made by CFK that i'm looking at one the same as the model you are testing.. thanks well done
Thank you very much. I do own other CFK models and have gifted a few others as well. They have yet to let me down.
Great vid.i have both and they are outstanding knives.check out the muela kodiak just picked one up a few weeks ago.would love to see your thoughts.
Wow, what a beautiful knife that Muela Kodiak is! I just looked up some photos online. Looks like a nice all-around type of hunting knife! Just by looking at the photos, I really love that simple drop point, flat grind blade as well as that elegant, neutral designed handle. I am a big fan of keeping things simple. The more features and complications you add to specialize in one particular task, the more it may impede in some of the other tasks. Very nice investment, Rick Dunbar!
The hollow grind is king all the way around..it will bite better,cut better,and the edge is plenty strong enough if you know how to use a knife..
What I like to use for honing my knives is a ceramic rod and then maybe a strap. That works well for my flat grinds and my convex grinds.
Thanks for sharing Steve.
Great vid, Thank you. I really think the Bark Rivers are overrated. Imho. User will always be key with any knife.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Watch the torture tests. You can skill all you want. But you still want a trusty knife. And mister post wingman is like Id rather have a saw than the better knife. WTF? A better knife is a better knife. And being a good knife user doesn't justify what is a better knife.
I looked at the CFK cutlery website and online stores at Amazon, EBAY, and Walmart, but did not see the 108 model.
Is it also known as the Trail Boss?
Maybe you guys can provide the link to the knife in the video.
Trial Boss is another knife, but a good one. My cousin uses it and loves it. I really liked it when I got to play with it. But here is the link for the 108... www.ebay.com/itm/CFK-AMAZON-Custom-Handmade-D2-Hunting-Bushcraft-Skinning-Camp-Blade-Knife-CFK108/162944594190?hash=item25f041310e:g:X9AAAOSwZoZafipt
Jaime Leon de la Parra Thanks Jaime!
i like the 1.25 been thinking about it for a while but like you im good at sharpening secondary bevel blades but convex is a new challenge .
I have to admit, that I've drifted away from convex edges on thicker blades. This CFK 108 is still with me and is still my favorite. But if you are thinking about a Bark River, check out the new Bravo Alpha. It's basically a drop point version of the 1.25.
Interesting video! I thought hollow grinds were only for folding knives how about a sharpening video just saying😎
We’re planning one. Thanks for watching.
Wingman
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How much for the sheath
Is a hollowgrind a v edge?
It has more of a curved cut out in the profile.
I realized I read your comment incorrectly, Sean Alpern. To better answer your question, no, a hollow grind is not a V edge. On this CFK 108, it a saber grind style profile, but does go into a hollow grind as it tapers down to the cutting edge. But at the cutting grind, or better yet, the grind one would sharpen, it is that of a V grind. Most mass produced knives share this common design style for its ease of manufacturing.
Convex any day.
BRK are the best
You’d think a “naval special warfare” dude would know to twist the knife while batoning instead of that limp wristed technique displayed. 🤦🏻♂️
Wow... I'd say there is 300% too much talking in this video.
This guy just talks too much and does almost nothing... I prefer your style John.
I'll be back soon brother. It was Jaime's first time in front of the camera. He did a great job. Thanks for watching.
This review is very biased.